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‘Fables’ taught by Mark Drake in Anchorage: Jesus didn’t really mean that we must ‘overcome’ in Revelation 2 & 3 = Steve Hill’s Lie #2, 3 & 5

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On May 17, 2013

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Doctrines Demystified, Doctrines of Demons?, Who Goes to Heaven

Please also see:

Abbott Loop has apparently joined the once-saved-always-saved camp — “the doctrine that’s bringing US down into the pit” and keeping us apart. But what does the Bible really say?

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

(music video) A taste of JESUS’ AGONY because His people have HURT SO MANY… – Gary Clark Jr: When My Train Pulls In (Live at Farm Aid 2014) — What I experienced in an elders’ meeting… (at Abbott Loop)

Someone needs to say something. Serious false doctrine is being taught at my home church in Anchorage. And in this message, Mark says he’s making Anchorage his home base from which to spread this false gospel that is keeping ‘ONE’ from happening — Jesus’ heart-CRY for us in John 17 — “that the world will know.”

Please be Biblical so God can move?

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“For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts; and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside to FABLES.” – 2 Tim. 4:3-4

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When Mark Drake says to ignore what Jesus clearly said about overcoming in Revelation 2 and 3, this is THE SPIRITUAL AVALANCHE Steve Hill is talking about. Mark Drake is snowing the people with Steve Hill’s Lies #2,3 & 5. Look especially at Lie #5:

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: The 7 Great Lies in the Church Today — Overemphasis of Prosperity • Exaggerated View of Grace (grace-changers nullify all divine warnings) • Antinomianism = against rules, so “anything goes” (but “Jesus didn’t set us free to sin; He set us free from sin”) • Gazing Upon Man, not God • Challenging the Authority of the Word (God didn’t really mean what He said) • Rejecting Hell • Universal Reconciliation

The challenging of God’s authority goes back to the Garden of Eden, starting with the serpent’s challenge to Eve: “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” (Gen. 3:1). This satanic challenge was twofold: First, did God really say that? And second, God didn’t really mean what He said. After all, you won’t die if you eat from the tree (vv. 1-5).

On May 5, 2013 at Abbott Loop Community Church, Mark Drake taught “Living Set Free: Galatians 3”. The podcast is available here. I transcribed this, starting at minute-45:

Be careful when you read the first few chapters of the book of Revelation, where it repeatedly says: ‘to him who overcomes will I do this,’ and’ to him who overcomes will I do that,’ because the temptation of the Devil is: ‘well you’re not overcoming everything yet, so you don’t get that.’

Well, I’ve got good news for you: there is an Overcomer Who has overcome, and if you’ve received Him by faith His overcomingness lives in you. I’m an overcomer because the Overcoming One lives in me.

Paul says the law has been fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled it. And if He fulfilled it and He lives in you the law has *already been fulfilled* in you. The righteous demands of the law were fulfilled by Jesus.

And because He is in me and I am in Him. [unintelligible] sitting around the dinner table at the last supper — ‘if you abide in Me and  I abide in You’ —

I am in Him and He’s in me — whatever He’s accomplished I get the benefit of….

But what did Jesus really say while “sitting around the dinner table at the last supper?” Jesus said: Only those who “keep My commandments“ will “remain in My love,” and they’ll bear much fruit. Those who don’t will be thrown into the fire and burned.

Abiding in Christ requires obedience. We must overcome!

Jesus in John 15:

4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can’t bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If a man doesn’t remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you. 8 “In this is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; and so you will be my disciples. 9 Even as the Father has loved me, I also have loved you. Remain in my love. 10 If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and remain in his love. 11 I have spoken these things to you, that my joy may remain in you, and THAT YOUR JOY MAY BE MADE FULL. 12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another, even as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friends, if you do whatever I command you.

Jesus really did say we must overcome in Revelation 2 and 3.

Revelation 3

1 “And to the angel of the assembly in Sardis write: He who has the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars says these things: “I know your works, that you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. 2 Wake up, and keep the things that remain, which you were about to throw away, for I have found no works of yours perfected before…God. 3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If therefore you won’t watch, I will come as a thief, and you won’t know what hour I will come upon you. 4 Nevertheless you have a few names in Sardis that did not defile their garments. They will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who OVERCOMES will be arrayed in white garments, and I will in no way blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Francis Chan on the lukewarm church in Revelation 3. “What does ‘spit out’ mean? … You can’t end your life lukewarm.” Just 3 minutes:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOetBYPBz6A]

I cover more of Jesus’ overcoming-required statements in Revelation in the first article, linked below.

And what Paul really said about who goes to heaven in Galatians is also shown, along with many other examples.

Related:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.” — No one can refute this article

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Is It Right: To Judge, To Expose Error & To Name Names? — Those who are faithful in exposing error according to the Bible are now being widely denounced, and are accused of being unloving and unkind

The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?

How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

Charles Finney: ETERNAL SECURITY is a TICKET TO HELL — “If a person gets the idea that because he is converted therefore he will assuredly go to heaven, that man will almost assuredly go to hell”

Charles Finney (1835): Instruction of Young Converts — “AIM AT BEING PERFECT. It should be their constant purpose to live wholly to God…. IF THEY SHOULD SIN it would be an inconsistency…. THEY OUGHT NOT TO SIN AT ALL; they are bound to be as holy as God is. And young converts should be taught to set out in the right course OR THEY WILL NEVER BE RIGHT”

Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

(Video) Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved — Joe Schimmel (known for They Sold Their Souls for Rock N Roll – demolishes OSAS!

David Pawson on Paul and James: Paul was defending Gentiles from Jewish *works-of-the-law* legalism; James was defending Jews from Gentile license to sin. • When Paul says ‘works’ he means *works of the law,* but James means *actions*. • “Faith without actions cannot save you.” • FAITH + ACTIONS = SAVING FAITH!

The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled – John 10:27-29! — “Only those who are hearing and following Christ right now are his sheep”

[ Video ] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security

The Believer’s Conditional Security : Eternal Security Refuted, by Dan Corner (801 page end-of-story book, but doesn’t cover who then does go to heaven, biblically)

[ Video ] Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

Why are WORSHIP SERVICES DEAD? God OPPOSES the PROUD, but He longs to give grace to the humble. ” • “THERE IS MIGHT and there is POWER and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there isglory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

Rick Joyner: “REPENTANCE includes RESTITUTION for the wrongs that have caused injury to others”

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: RECONCILIATION the KEY! — “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘I just hit my 34th person and I’m free!’”

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”

My comment on Francis Frangipane’s post: “Francis, do you remember how you prophesied in Wasilla, Alaska about the REVIVAL happening up here to such a great degree that…” | Paul made sure he was right with everyone, but how many pastors can say that today? | “There is might and there is power and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…

“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”

Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent (prophecy)

[WordPower!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)

The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!

Rhydian Roberts: The Prayer — “Let this be our prayer WHEN WE LOSE OUR WAY. Lead us…guide us with your grace to A PLACE WHERE WE’LL BE SAFE” (Rhydian Roberts is Welsh, by the way)

Theme for the Third Great Awakening, Rhydian Roberts: Somewhere — “We’ll find a new way of living. We’ll find a way of forgiving – Somehow – Someday – Somewhere!” — ‘ONE’ Will Happen!!!!!!!

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

[ video – The MOST BEAUTIFUL SONG! ] Benny Hester: “When God Ran”

The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?

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On May 8, 2013

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Alaska, Doctrines Demystified, Getting Right with Each Other, Worship

I made this comment on Facebook, yesterday, to some former church leaders, but it seemed like nobody wanted to hear it. I don’t know if I ever will understand how a person can be called divisive while pushing for unity? But this isn’t the first time.

Why is reconciliation, the key to revival (see links below) a taboo subject?

I’m going to start calling it the ‘R-word.’

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This following real-history, video is what happens when people get right with each other, but WHEN IS THE LAST TIME ANYONE HAS HEARD a sermon that Christians need to get right with each other — reconciliation? It’s like it’s a taboo subject — because hardly any leaders, themselves are willing to get right with everyone. But reconciliation with each other is essential for ‘ONE’ to happen.

This can happen, and should happen in Anchorage. Reconciliation is the biggest key to revival, because there is still blood on the pews….

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

I also said:

I also believe that many Christians need to not only confess their sins to God, but they also need to get right with those they’ve hurt, lied to — in order to be right with God. They can’t just say “heh, heh, heh, and slap the person on the back,” and then be actually right with that person and God. Only when we are right with each other can we worship in Spirit and in truth (Mt. 5:23-25).

[“If therefore you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has anything against you, leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are with him in the way; lest perhaps the prosecutor deliver you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be cast into prison.]

And perhaps that is one of the reasons certain people here don’t even want to meet together and worship. Perhaps it’s better to ‘cold’ than to be ‘lukewarm,’ acting like everything is okay when it is not. But both are going to hell if they don’t repent.

It’s amazing at how many willfully sinful people raise their hands during worship services but are not right with even people in the same room.

And only then can healings regularly happen too. James 5:

“13 Is any among you suffering? Let him pray. Is any cheerful? Let him SING PRAISES. 14 Is any among you sick? Let him CALL FOR THE ELDERS OF THE ASSEMBLY, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord, 15 and the prayer of faith WILL HEAL HIM who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. If he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 CONFESS YOUR OFFENSES TO ONE ANOTHER, and PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER, that you may be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective.

We can only worship in Spirit and in truth when our consciences don’t condemn us, saying we need to get right with someone, first.

Let us be free!

Pray for each other until ‘ONE’ happens — until God’s glory fills us with so much joy (John 15) that the world will know (John 17) !!!

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Related:

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

If we build it He will come: “Let Us Be ONE” (A Prophecy)

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!

[photo] Abbott Loop Christian Center (Abbott Loop Community Church) — 1985!

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On December 16, 2012

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Personal

Abbott Loop Christian Center (now called Abbott Loop Community Church) — 1985.

I’m in here somewhere. Many good memories from those days!

May we be ‘ONE’! (see links, below)

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AbbottLoop1985

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My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

[2.5-minute video] Abbott Loop is now meeting in the gymnasium, following the roof collapse — Many are missing

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On November 18, 2012

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church

Only a small fraction of the original members still attend, though.

When will Abbott Loop get right with those they’ve hurt so ‘ONE’ can happen?

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Watch KTUU Video Here

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Church Opens Doors 8 Months After Roof Collapse

The Abbott Loop Church has been ministering in Anchorage together for 53 years this November. It’s a milestone they were able to celebrate back in their home church following 8 months without a place to call home.

On March 2, following a record setting winter snowfall the roof collapsed over the auditorium where church services were held. Thankfully no one was hurt but seeing the church in ruins was painful for many people. …

Project managers said they plan to work through the winter on as much as they can. Project managers also said the collapse has given them the opportunity to create an even better building. The auditorium will now have huge windows for natural light and stadium seating. The new auditorium will also be able to provide a local charter school with a place for performing arts. …

Project managers expect to have everything complete by Christmas of next year.

Related:

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

Why 9/11? | Forgiveness is the Key to Repentance — “Do you not know that I lift My hand of protection when My people are far away?”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

 Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”

I had a dream last night: The pastors have run out of ideas — so why not get ‘ONE’ happening?!!

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On September 24, 2012

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Getting Right with Each Other, Personal, Prophecies Dreams & Visions, Revival

9/23/12 Dream given to Jeff Fenske

Last night, I saw in a dream the leaders of a church wondering what to do, having run out of ideas.

They were all looking at the rectangular box on their digital calendar for the month of May, which had suddenly become all white, empty.

What they had planned on doing had fallen apart, and they were out loud wondering what to do, instead.

I said, “why don’t we start the revival?”

And the dream ended.

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To me, this dream represents the current state of the church.

What follows are portions of two long prophecies I got for a pastor, 15 years apart. This first prophecy is from 1991.

God wanted revival to happen decades ago, but the pastors in America chose to do programs instead of doing what the Holy Spirit was trying to tell them to do. We could have saved America, had we only obeyed then. Now, I believe God has said it is too late, but we can still get ‘ONE’ happening, so we can be safe in Christ and united through the difficult times ahead.

But there is no other way, My son. No other program will accomplish this, no other strategy, no other means than by My Word, by My Spirit, by the living Word, the rhema of independence from guilt, the liberating manna in the desert, from where it sprouts shoots that grow into plants, becoming big trees, blossoming all around. But first the root must be planted in soil, the soil of My Words and My love. You know it well. You’ve read it often—about the vine and the branches, the tree and the stalk from which plenty comes.

There is only one way. Abide in Me, and rest assured there is no other way by which life comes. No programs will accomplish this. You will find them bare in the long run—wasted.

Go slow, and get to know Me. Cut back from all these things. Strive not ahead without Me leading—safely behind the Father, safely enduring to the end—safely. In safety there is rest. Safety comes first by seeking Me first above all else….

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From the prophecy I got in 2004 for this same pastor. I just capitalized the ONEs now:

Obey, and fruit will come. It’s that simple. … Away from Me there is no life. Forgive and you will be free. … Embrace those who obey, and let’s be ONE, unified, ONE Spirit, ONE way, ONE direction—all going separate directions all at once with Me choreographing each one’s part until it all becomes a whole body that prays hard and is ONE. You will see it. Will you let it happen or stand in the way by your programs that divide? Strength in numbers. …

I am your friend. You can count on that, but I will oppose you if you take these sheep for a ride. Know that I care and will give you great things. Build for yourself a home where you can be ONE. This is what I want, not you in charge of the destiny of others. Let Me lead, and you will be sorry that it took this much time for you to get the picture. That’s okay, but many have been hurt in the process. Shake the demons off your feet and go the higher direction, where life reigns.

The process of getting right with your brother:
Will you not go to them and tell them the truth: your ineptness, not realizing their hurt? They will understand, but give it to them straight. Don’t expect them to obey and love you without you repenting. You do what you can do, not them. It’s not up to them. Treat them with kindness and you will see life, fruit will remain from the greatest two commandments being fully implemented to an extent you’ve never seen. You will see this in your midst, and it will be grand. So full of love your heart will be. Watch the Asbury tape, again, from the beginning. See what can happen. See it as you repent. Watch it before your eyes. Something greater, that can last will come your direction. I promise, if you do what is right. For you are holding back this move. You, first, then others will follow. Give it time. Don’t expect this tomorrow, for people have to catch up, but they will. Others will obey so rapidly as sands of the seashore waking up and smelling the roses that life came and will envelope your soul. Let it sweep you off your feet, and obey. Love will happen….

First, do things first. Tell others you are sorry that you’ve dissed  them, that you led them astray, that you took them down a path of disobedience. This dead-end street has a beginning. Show them the way to go by starting at the top, the basics, the greatest two. That’s what they need to hear. That’s what should be draped before their eyes. Let them hang down from the walls.

From the floor, build at ground zero: love fully even as I have loved. Let Me be the example, and set your sights high. You have vision. Let it rip your life where it must, and then go from there. Hurts will cease. Get rid of the demons. Set your sights high, on eternity, your reward if you obey. Many others will follow and learn the way of life at this institution, a place of prayer. It’s okay to falter at first, but you’ve had so much time and prayers. …

Let it be different and new life will come. You will be so glad, happy, relaxed, unified. My Word will happen. Let it give you life. Obey all of it, not just what comes out of your mouth, that what you’ve swallowed hard. Don’t ignore what is written, those passages that warn others to obey, including you. …

Thank you, My son. I will love you, forever, and we will be ONE. Life in the Son is the way to go. Do it now, and you’ll never regret this decision to obey. Give to Me, your pride, and I will hold you up, higher than most, a shining example of mercy. Let’s go and be right for a change: ONE—unified—ONE heart, ONE body. Disobey, never, and I will give you life. …

Thank you, my friend. Let’s go. Now relax and obey. Rewards will come if you let them. Cease striving, and walk the way of men, never. There is a better way, and I will lead you into disaster, never. You can trust Me. See that you obey, and walk righteously. And never again look back. Set your sights high, and you will see mercy. Lots of love will come from your bones, not hate. Be not afraid. Cease striving, away from Me, and I will give you hope to overcome, a way that is better. Rest in me, and transgress, never. Fruit will remain if you obey. Set your sights high, not in Proverbs. A flow from above will accomplish much, not works on earth from below, the dark side. That is where you remain, in the world, their way of thinking.

Leave all these programs aside, and seek a different way, one that is better. Strive no more, and relax, knowing that I am in charge. Don’t fight Me. Rely on your own intelligence cannot bring about change. …

I love you so much. Please, give Me the upper hand and life will come—not the other way around, where life will cease, as it is now: dead — dead services. Come out from among them and be separate, all those churches that disobey. Let them run for cover when the real thing happens. Don’t fear retaliation. This time it will be different. There will be a prayer base, and it will be established in love. You need not fear that this move will stop, unless people leave Me.

I will obey. I am steadfast. I am under authority, where you belong. I always did the right thing, constantly forgiving, under authority, not out on My own — safety— safely out of harms way, no matter how it looked from the outside. I was hidden. I walked the walk. Will you do the same, following in My footsteps, or will you argue that yours is a better way? …

Related:

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”

If we build it He will come:
“Let Us Be ONE” (A Revival Prophecy)

All of my Revival posts (latest appear first, 10 posts per page)

[3-minute news video report] Abbott Loop Community Church Roof Collapses!

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On March 3, 2012

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church

Some of us attended Bible school in the structure on the left, still standing.

And I have almost 30 Abbott Loop related articles listed in my Abbott Loop CC category.

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KTUU Video & Article Here

Channel 2 News

6:21 p.m. AKST, March 2, 2012

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My photo of the original ALCC cross
that was hanging on the now-demolished west wall,
next to the street:

Abbott Loop CC Cross:
We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

Bob Mumford’s classic guidance book is still available: “Take Another Look At Guidance”

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On June 14, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Hearing God's Voice, Personal, Prayer

I read this book in the early ’80s after hearing Bob speak about guidance at Abbott Loop. I loved this book, which had a big impact on me, after Bob taught us at Abbott Loop to always have a lighted pen by our bedside to write down what God tells us while we’re in bed.

[If I remember correctly, having not read this gem in decades, I probably wouldn’t fully agree with everything, like fleeces. I’m pretty sure I still have it buried in a box somewhere; otherwise, I’d take a look to make sure.]

Isn’t it interesting and sad that books about being led by the Holy Spirit are few and far between? Even most charismatic churches are now just barely charismatic.

When Willow Creek and others pioneered the seeker friendly movement, I never thought they would adversely influence so many churches that should have known better, having experienced the real thing. The Holy Spirit hardly has a role these days.

Jeff

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From: Lifechangers (Bob Mumford’s website)

Take Another Look At Guidance

Take Another Look at Guidance provides biblically-based counsel about how to find and follow God’s guiding path through life. That council has proven sound for the more than 20 years this book has been in print. Some of the chapter titles are: Luck . . . or Happenstance? Knowing the Will of God The Holy Spirit Speaks and Signs and Fleeces You will also learn about the three harbor lights of Guidance: Word of God Holy Spirit Circumstances

Purchase Here (Only $10; otherwise, used copies are selling for big bucks at Amazon)

Related:

Bob Mumford (2009): Secrets of the Fathers Conference — “If we learn how to put our sail and learn how to turn this thing we will see light in Goshen while there is darkness in Egypt”

Bob Mumford (2009): Secrets of the Fathers Conference — “We are entering the most serious, complicated, undefined period in church history.”

Hearing God’s Voice: Brief Repeat Phrases

All of my Hearing God’s Voice posts in reverse-chronological order

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: "OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security." — WARNINGS against backsliding SHOW that the security of the believer is conditional upon obedience and faith • What God has provided in Christ man must receive and apply • Divine SOVEREIGNTY *and* human RESPONSIBILITY meet together in the great redemptive plan • Christ is "the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY him"(Hebrews 5:9) • Upon HEARING and FOLLOWING the Shepherd they receive eternal life and will never perish • AS HE OBEYS the Word of the Lord his SECURITY against backsliding and apostacy is FULLY GUARANTEED

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On February 7, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Doctrines Demystified, Who Goes to Heaven

Kevin Conner was one of my Bible teachers in Bible school at Abbott Loop Christian Center in 1984.

Kevin Conner

I hand copied this from the textbook we used: The Foundations of Christian Doctrine by Kevin J. Conner, 1980, page 264 (emphasis mine).
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VI. THE REALIZATION OF THE ATONEMENT

B. Application — Human Responsibility

We now examine the manward side of the atonement in its application. what God has provided in Christ, man must receive and apply. Divine sovereignty and human responsibility meet together in the great redemptive plan. …

4. Perseverance and Security

g. Conditional Security

The Scriptures teach the perseverance of the saints. Warnings against backsliding and the dangers of apostacy show that the security of the believer is conditional upon obedience and faith in the Lord Jesus. It has been said that “Christ came to redeem man back to the obedience from which Adam fell.”

The writer to the Hebrews says that Christ is “the author of eternal salvation (Greek “Soteria” safety, rescue, security, wholeness, health) unto all them that obey him” (Hebrews 5:9).

The redemptive work of Christ does not exempt man from obedience to the Word of God. This obedience is neither a forced nor a non-volitional obedience. Obedience is the very law of security for all created beings. There can be no such thing as unconditional security. The angels are secure upon continued obedience to God’s will and Word. The angels which fell disobeyed God’s law. Adam and Eve were secure upon obedience to the commandment of the Lord. When they fell it was through disobedience (Romans 5:12-21). All free-will creatures are under one basic law or commandment and that is the law of loving and willing obedience. Eternal life is given to the eternally obedient. A consideration of the references listed here show that God place this responsibility upon His people saying that if they obey His voice, then He will be their God and they will be HIs people (Genesis 22:18; 26:5; 27:8,13; Exodus19:5; 23:21-22; Deuteronomy 11:27-28; 30:2,8,20; Jeremiah 7:23; 11:4; Acts 5:32; Hebrews 5:9; Romans 6:17; 1 Peter 1:14, 22; Romans 15:18).

Jesus taught that the evidences of being His sheep are “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow me, and I give unto them eternal life; and they never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of My hand” (John 10:27-28). Both verses teach conditional security of the believer. Upon hearing and following the Shepherd they receive eternal life and will never perish.

It is the duty of the watchman to warn the wicked and the righteous, those without and within. The righteous are warned not to turn from their righteousness and do iniquity. If he die in his sins, all his righteousness shall not be remembered. This same principle is seen in both Old and New Testaments. The watchman is to exhort the believer to persevere in the Lord, to continue in the faith, and as he obeys the Word of the Lord, his security against backsliding and apostacy is fully guaranteed (Ezekiel 3:17-21; 18:19-32; 33:1-20; Matthew 7:15-23; II Thessalonians 3:3; Jude 24-25; I Corinthians 10:13; Philippians 1:6).

No believer need backslide or fall away from the faith, for the Lord Jesus is our advocate and intercessor. The Holy Spirit is our Comforter and indweller. the Lord gives the assurance that He “is able to keep you from falling and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy…” (Jude 24-25).

Related:

Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

Charles Finney (1835): Instruction of Young Converts — “AIM AT BEING PERFECT. It should be their constant purpose to live wholly to God…. IF THEY SHOULD SIN it would be an inconsistency…. THEY OUGHT NOT TO SIN AT ALL; they are bound to be as holy as God is. And young converts should be taught to set out in the right course OR THEY WILL NEVER BE RIGHT”

Charles Finney: ETERNAL SECURITY is a TICKET TO HELL — “If a person gets the idea that because he is converted therefore he will assuredly go to heaven, that man will almost assuredly go to hell”

A.W. Tozer: There is ‘one sure way to escape the delusions of religion’ and be true Christians: “Receive Christ as Lord of our lives and begin to obey Him in everything. Submit to the truth and let it search us. Submit and obey…”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT”

No Condemnation NOW so No Condemnation when we meet Jesus face to FACE — Hearts pure, smiling so big!!! FREEeeeeeeee———–DOM!!!!!!!

The Container is Completed

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On January 31, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Personal, Prophecies Dreams & Visions, Revival

[This is a mirror of the post I just posted at my personal blog]
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Read about the container here:

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

I had a dream a number of years ago in which I was closing up an LD3 container (an airline freight container that we use at work) in the middle-back of Abbott Loop Community Church (ALCC).

It was a very complicated container . . . .

This does NOT mean I won’t be writing and posting more articles at ONEcanhappen.
It means that the articles I’ve felt necessary for me to post for revival to come have all been posted — with 6 minutes to spare. I wanted to have it done by the end of January.
I posted 78 posts at ONEcanhappen in January, far more than any previous month, much of it original.
January posts that made it into Jeff’s Writings (I mostly kept Jeff’s Writings list updated too in January):

MAJOR WRITINGS

How does 2 Thess. 2:10,11 work? Does God actively deceive people who willfully reject truth?

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

NIV alterations that greatly affect Christian doctrine — including my pet peeves. The NIV is destroying the church! Here’s proof.

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

How CLEAN do our HEARTS have to be from the Hebrews-12 root of bitterness that defiles many so they lose their reward? Where is the place of SAFETY — RESTING, KNOWING for SURE we’re going to heaven? Selah …

Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified
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SELECT SHORT STUFF & TRANSCRIPTIONS

John Wimber Signs and Wonders: Westernized Churches — The pursuit of study has become an end in itself. But to study it without acting upon it is incomplete. We need the Word and the works.
Francis Frangipane: Holiness Precedes Power | More of my experiences at Trinity and in the Vineyard Movement | Why did John and Chris Whimber die?
D. A. Carson: The Problem of the Canon Within the Canon — A subset of scriptures taught in exclusion of those that would result in true doctrine
The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
Azusa Street Revival — I was there (in the studio audience)
Daniel Rodes: A Man Dedicated to God
All of My Rhydian Roberts posts
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”
THIRD ANNIVERSARY of “Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way”
Westcott and Hort Magic Marker Binge! Would you take a magic marker to your Bible and cross out words from passages? Do you read the NIV?

Bruce Springsteen & Neil Young: All Along The Watchtower — “No reason to get excited,” the thief [through all-smiles pastors] he kindly spoke. … Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late!”
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WordPOWER! SERIES (Key Scriptures)

ALCC Cups

Can ONE happen at ALCC in 2011?!!!!
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[WordPOWER!] Psalm 37: “Don’t fret because of evildoers…. The perfect, their inheritance shall be forever. They shall not be disappointed in the time of evil. In the days of famine they shall be satisfied. But the wicked shall perish.”

[WordPOWER!] Jesus in Matthew 10:34-38 — Don’t let relatives keep you from taking up your cross and following Christ — ”A man’s foes will be those of his own household. He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more….”

[WordPOWER!] David in Psalm 38: “…neither is there any HEALTH in my bones because of my sin. … Those who SEEK MY HURT…meditate deceits ALL DAY LONG. … Those who HATE ME WITHOUT REASON…render evil for good…BECAUSE I FOLLOW WHAT IS GOOD.” — Check your HEART. Are you one of the James-3 cursers?

[WordPOWER!] 1 John 4 “Perfect Love Casts Out Fear” means us perfectly loving, not us perfectly accepting His love for us (as is commonly taught). Let’s love perfectly!

[WordPOWER!] Jesus Ups the Ante – Matthew 5:21-22: “YOU HAVE HEARD that it was said…, ‘You shall not murder’…. BUT I TELL YOU, that everyone who is ANGRY with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment”

[WordPOWER!] Jesus Ups the Ante – Matthew 5:27-30: “YOU HAVE HEARD that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery;’ BUT I TELL YOU that everyone who GAZES at a woman to LUST after her has committed ADULTERY with her already in his heart. …your whole body to be CAST INTO GEHENNA.”

[WordPOWER!] Acts 17:30-31 God Upped the Ante when He Sent the Holy Spirit — “The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent…”

[WordPOWER!] 1 Peter 1:22 — “Seeing you have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth through the Spirit in sincere brotherly affection, love one another from the heart fervently”

[WordPOWER!] Jesus on reconciliation in Matthew 5: If you remember that your brother has anything against you, reconcile quickly or . . .

[WordPower!] Jesus on forgiving to be free from demons in Matthew 18: “So my heavenly Father will also do to you, if you don’t each forgive your brother from your HEARTS for his misdeeds.”

[WordPOWER!] Acts 9:31: Where ‘ONE’ Happened Throughout the Land! The Key Ingredient Missing Today = The Fear of the Lord!

[WordPOWER!] Acts 5: Great FEAR came on the whole assembly, many signs and wonders were done. They were all with ‘ONE’ accord. None of the rest (the unrepentant) DARED to join them, however the people honored them. More believers were added.

I still posted 123 posts at ToBeFree, but not as many original as I have been. This was in part to major on ONEcanhappen. But also, I think people are finally getting it that we’re in big trouble, which is a major reason why I do ToBeFree. I’m also very interested in timing, to see when things will happen.
I’ll keep posting at all three sites, but I plan on being more in coast mode starting now to get ready for my March photography exhibit at Jitters.
Power to the peaceful!
Jeff : )

Mick Drick ALCC: "As a complete body of believers in COMPLETE UNITY, WE WILL ROCK THE WORLD!"

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On January 22, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Getting Right with Each Other, No Enemy, Revival, The Third Great Awakening

“That as a complete body of believers in complete unity,
we will rock the world!”

“The statistics are showing
there’s like almost no movement of the Spirit in the lower-48….

And I would dare say this is probably the problem.
It’s because there is no unity amongst believers,
because that is where the power is.”

– Mick Drick
Pastor, Abbott Loop Community Church

From Mick’s 1/16/11 message:
Our Father’s Work “We Have What It Takes”

Listen HERE

Related:

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!
Max Lucado: A Citadel for All Christians —”In his last prayer Jesus prayed that you and I be one. … Could it be that unity is the key to reaching the world for Christ? If unity is the key to evangelism shouldn’t it have precedence in our prayers?”

Russell Kelly, Ph.D.: Reply to Jim Feeney, Ph.D. on Tithing

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On January 16, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Doctrines Demystified, The Church is Getting Jacked!, Tithing or Spirit-led

From:russkellyphd.blogspot.com…

Thursday, July 15, 2010

Reply to Jim Feeney, PHD

Review of Pastor Jim Feeney, Ph.D. by Russell E Kelly, Ph. D.

FEENEY: Acts 20:33 [The apostle Paul said] I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold.

KELLY: You missed the point. In 3 years at Ephesus Paul had not asked for ONE PENNEY of support. Not only had he been totally self-supporting but he also supported those in his group. He very definitely was not asking for offerings –much less tithes!

FEENEY: It is never our intent at South Valley Church to covet your finances.

KELLY: In Acts 20:29-35 Paul commanded church elders to work and care for the needy in their churches. He quoted Jesus to back up his point

FEENEY: But there is an area of finances that we do covet — that is, that the Lord receive his tithe.

KELLY: There is not a single text after Calvary for the Church to tithe. In the OT the Levites and priests received the first tithe.

FEENEY: Leviticus 27:30, 32 A tithe of everything from the land…BELONGS TO THE LORD… The tenth (ten percent) of our gross increase belongs to the Lord.

KELLY: The text defines HOLY tithes as only food from inside God’s HOLY land which God had miraculously increased. Tithes could not come from what man produced, from Gentiles or from outside Israel.

FEENEY: Wealthy Abraham, the first great patriarch of Israel, gave tithes centuries before Moses’ Law (Genesis 14).

KELLY: Why did Abraham tithe pagan spoils of war? The Bible does not say that God commanded it or that he gave it freely. In the context of 14:21 he was obeying the law of the land which REQUIRED tithes of spoils of war to one’s local king-priest.

FEENEY: Poor Jacob, the father of the twelve tribes of Israel, gave the tithe, also before the Law — Genesis 28:22 “And of all that you give me I will give you a TENTH.”

KELLY: Quote the entire text. This was Jacob the supplanter telling God what to do as part of a freewill vow. His tithe was not a holy tithe of the law.

FEENEY: In the Law that God gave through Moses to God’s people, there were clear commandments to give tithes —

KELLY: Only to Old Covenant national Israel. And Israel was commanded NOT to share its covenant with the Gentiles.

FEENEY: Leviticus 27:30, 32 A tithe of everything from the land…belongs to the LORD; it is holy to the Lord. … The entire tithe of the herd and flock — every tenth animal … — will be holy to the Lord.

KELLY: Only FOOD increased from inside God’s HOLY land of Israel. Tithes could not come from defiled pagan land.

FEENEY: Ten lambs born? They gave the Lord one. Ten bushels of wheat harvested? They gave the Lord one. They tithed — that is, they gave ten percent — on the “gross” increase.

KELLY: “They” were farmers and herdsmen who lived inside Israel. “They” were not Gentiles or craftsmen.

FEENEY: My tithe “belongs [not to me, but] to the Lord.”

KELLY: Unless your are an Old Covenant Hebrew living inside Israel and producing food, then YOU cannot tithe. You may give 10% of your income, but that is not a true biblical tithe.

FEENEY: 1,500 years after Moses received the Law, Jesus REAFFIRMED in His day the validity of tithing:

Matthew 23:23 Woe to you, teachers of the Law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! YOU GIVE A TENTH of your spices — mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law — justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER.

KELLY: Jesus was living under the jurisdiction of the Law and was discussing MATTERS OF THE LAW. The tithe went to the Levites and not to Jesus. Jesus could not tell his Jewish or Gentile disciples to tithe to him because it would have been sin to do so. Mt 23:23 is still Old Covenant before Calvary (Gal 4-5).

FEENEY: Later in the New Testament, in 1 Corinthians, ch. 9, the apostle Paul teaches on the financial support of the work of God and uses commands from Moses’ Law as guidelines — 1 Corinthians 9:8

KELLY: This would have been the perfect time to clearly teach on tithing and Paul did not.

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FEENEY: “Doesn’t the Law say the SAME thing?” (referring to how the priests lived on the tithes and offerings). Paul brought the principle of the Levitical tithe — “the SAME thing” — over to the support of New Testament ministry.

KELLY: The argument is self defeating because it would force the church to copy “IN THE SAME WAY” ALL of the types of support of the Levitical system and not merely tithing. The “principle” from 9:7 to 9:14 is that each vocation has its own principles of support. The Christian principle is “grace and faith” – not law.

FEENEY: Should Christians tithe? The words of both Jesus and Paul seem clearly to bring tithing into New Testament times.

KELLY: No. Christians cannot tithe even if they wanted to do so. And the tithing STATUTE of Numbers 18 required Levitical tithe-recipients to forfeit property ownership. That is ignored too.

FEENEY: In the history of the New Testament Church since the first century, biblical tithing has been commonly, although not universally, taught and practiced.

KELLY: There is no record of any kind of tithing taught in the early church for at least 200 years after Calvary and even Cyprian’s attempt failed. Tithing did not become legally enforced in the Church for over 700 years. Even then it was only food off church-owned property.

FEENEY: In fact, tithing was a common religious practice in many nations in the ancient world.

KELLY: This proves that pagans tithed spoils of war before Abraham was born. They also worshipped idols and sacrificed children. Being old and common does not make something eternal and moral.

FEENEY: 2 Chronicles 31:12 Then they FAITHFULLY brought in the contributions, tithes and dedicated gifts.

KELLY: Because the king had erroneously told them to bring it to Jerusalem it rotted in the streets. Read 31:15-19 where it was re-shipped back to the Levitical cities.

FEENEY: Tithing is an indicator of our FAITHFULNESS. It’s a weekly, semimonthly, or monthly opportunity to demonstrate to God your faithfulness and commitment to His work on earth.

KELLY: Texts? NT giving is: freewill, generous, sacrificial, joyful, not by commandment and motivated by love for God and lost souls (2 Cor 8 and 9).

FEENEY: Giving our “tenth” is an indicator of our GENEROSITY. And God takes notice of the attitude of generosity: “God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7).

KELLY: Tithes were cold hard law and must be given by food producers inside Israel whether they desired to or not.

FEENEY: Numbers 18:21 I give to the LEVITES all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance IN RETURN FOR THE WORK THEY DO while serving at the Tent of Meeting.

KELLY: The Church does not obey a single tithing command found in Numbers 18. Levites, who received the first whole tithe, were NOT the ministering priests; they were the servants to the priests.

FEENEY: Biblical tithing allows God-called ministers to devote themselves fully to the Lord’s work.

KELLY: The Bible neither endorses nor discusses whether gospel workers should be full time.

FEENEY: Levites/priests in the Old Testament, fivefold ministers (apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers) in the New Testament.

KELLY: No. Modern Jews do not tithe because there is no temple or priesthood. Levites vaguely correspond to unpaid ushers, deacons, choir, musicians, etc. All NT believers are priests. Gospel workers more closely follow the example of OT prophets who were either self-supporting or lived off freewill offerings.

FEENEY: Malachi 3:8-10 “Will a man ROB GOD? Yet you rob me.” But you ask, ‘How do we rob you?’ “In TITHES AND OFFERINGS. (9)You are under a curse — the whole nation of you — because you are robbing me.

KELLY: Malachi is addressed to Old Covenant Israel under the Law. According to Malachi 1:6; 2:1; 2:17 and Neh 13:5-10, “every priest in the nation” was stealing from God by keeping the best for themselves. Also, no born again adopted child of God can be cursed (Gal 3:10-13).

FEENEY: (10) Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house.

KELLY: Only Levites and priests were required to do this per Neh 10:38-39.The people were commanded to bring their tithe to the Levitical cities per Neh 10:37b.

FEENEY: Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.

KELLY: The whole law was a test –not merely tithing. Obey all to be blessed; break one to be cursed. Gal 3:10-13.

FEENEY: 6. Why do I believe in tithing (and giving offerings also)? I wouldn’t want to take a chance on God considering me a ROBBER!

KELLY: Robbers accept something which only belonged to OT Levites and priests. You rob God if you do not obey all the tithing law of Numbers 18 and own property.

FEENEY: 7. Why do I believe in tithing? Because God says He wants His “house” to be ABUNDANTLY supplied.

KELLY: The early church did not even have its own buildings legally until after AD325.

FEENEY: Why tithe? Because God says if I am faithful in tithes and offerings, He will open the windows of heaven and pour me out abundant blessings.

KELLY: God cannot and will not bless New Covenant believers because of their obedience to annulled Old Covenant conditional promises (Heb 7:5, 12, 18). Only “successful tithers” are paraded before the church pulpit while most that are not blessed sit quietly and wonder why they are cursed even after tithing.

FEENEY: Proverbs 3:9-10, KJV Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: [10] So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

KELLY: Firstfruits and tithes are never the same thing in the Bible. Firstfruits are very small token offerings per Deu 26:1-4; Neh 10:35-37a, etc, etc, etc.

Posted by Russell Earl Kelly

Related:
The Day that Tithing Ended — To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit
[My Dream] Tithing? “No, it’s a Holy Spirit thing!!”
Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine
Many Pastors Still Teach Old Covenant, Pre-Pentecost Tithing—Not Spirit-Led Giving
Tithing or the Carriage Driver?
David Bercot CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About Tithing and Fasting? “You might be surprised to know…”
Teaching tithing keeps the little (and the big) children from coming to Jesus where they can have life!
All of my Tithing or Spirit-led posts

My Dream of 'ONE' Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

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On January 12, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Filled with the HOLY Spirit, Personal, Prophecies Dreams & Visions, Revival, The Third Great Awakening

Abbott Loop CC Cross:
We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

NOTE: The dream I’m sharing here is the second dream I had in which ‘ONE’ was happening. The first one I saw in the late ’80s, where a former elder was leading and everyone was happy!
Also, I have no doubt that this is a word from the Lord. Does that mean it will happen, or that it has to happen?

I believe that God shows us things that He wants to happen. “Those who are led by the Spirit are the children of God” (Romans 8). He wants to lead us. But He also gives us free will. Many things that God shows people only can happen if we do what He’s leading us to do. And in this case, many people are involved.

God wants this to happen, and I personally believe this will happen, based upon what I know of the people involved; though, I think most of what God directs people to do never happens, because most don’t hear and obey. But we don’t have to be like most people. And we can change the climate so the percentage of people hearing and obeying greatly rises.
So there is no doubt that God will help us do our parts so His will will happen. But we must do our parts. And a big part of that for me is being patient, doing my part under authority without bothering anyone, like in the dream.
– Jeff
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Something Good is Going to Happen?
Abbott Loop CC Cup — “Jesus is Lord.”
We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

I had a dream a number of years ago in which I was closing up an LD3 container (an airline freight container that we use at work) in the middle-back of Abbott Loop Community Church (ALCC).
It was a very complicated container (way more than they really are in the natural), and I was making a lot of noise trying to close it — “button it up — but it didn’t bother anybody in the auditorium, who were listening to a man whom I didn’t recognize speak from the pulpit.
When I finished putting together the container, I walked forward and the leader had me lead worship [Years ago, I had led worship many times, but never in the main auditorium]. I led from within the midst of the people, on the main floor, in the center, maybe 10 rows back, singing “Holy and Anointed One.”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkW_PhFw0zM]Holy and Anointed One (with lyrics)

As soon as I started singing the first word, “Jesus,” everyone’s hands went straight up! No one was worshiping part way!
I interpret this to mean (if someone has more insight I’m open to suggestions):
I was doing my part, by myself, loading this extremely complex container. This is probably my research, shown here on this site. And there has been a lot of specific prayer, which I explain here.
Working on the container made a lot of noise, but it didn’t bother the people. I’ve been very careful to give people space, having learned from my previous mistakes.
The people were getting taught by the leader, while I was doing my thing, apart from them. But we were in the same building and they could here the noise of my work. The people at ALCC have been learning some significant things, like the importance of forgiving — that demons can directly affect Christians — etc..
And when I was done with my project, the leader let me lead worship this one time and everyone worshiped, their arms straight up toward God. When the leader(s) and I got on the same page, doctrinally (especially!), then ONE (Jesus’ prayer for us in John 17) happened. Everyone was right with God and each other so they could totally worship in Spirit and in truth, absolutely holy hands raised high, no holding back — pure!
That must mean that there was complete reconciliation in God’s eyes. And I couldn’t see the power and comfort of God that everyone felt, but having been in many mini-revivals I can only imagine…!
So my best guess is that the scriptures in the header at the top of this site were all fulfilled, and we were ready for anything that might come our way.
Unity happened at Abbott Loop!

Abbott Loop CC’s Sign —
“Our Vision: A Pursuing Love of God
and One Another”

Jeff : )

(((stereo)))[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olBnC2nxCNw]Brian Doerksen: Holy and anointed one

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The Coming Revival (from my personal blog, 1/10/11)

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: RECONCILIATION the KEY! — “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘I just hit my 34th person and I’m free!’”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!
The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
Wes Hall to church leaders: “There’s a cry in your heart saying ‘I am not prepared to walk forward another step in dead works and dead religion”
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified
(video) The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next, even greater revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s *1909 prophecy* of the SHEKINAH GLORY RETURNING to the church *in 100 years*: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. ..the fear of God was on the community, and…they were highly esteemed” | My theory …
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent
My comment on Francis Frangipane’s post: “Francis, do you remember how you prophesied in Wasilla, Alaska about the REVIVAL happening up here to such a great degree that…” | Paul made sure he was right with everyone, but how many pastors can say that today? | “There is might and there is power and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…
(video) A taste of JESUS’ AGONY because His people have HURT SO MANY… – Gary Clark Jr: When My Train Pulls In (Live at Farm Aid 2014)
Awakening Meetings End at IHOP. Why?
Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
If we build it He will come:
“Let Us Be ONE” (A Revival Prophecy)
[photo] Abbott Loop Christian Center (Abbott Loop Community Church) — 1985
All of my Revival posts (latest appear first, 10 posts per page)

Max Lucado: A Citadel for All Christians —"In his last prayer Jesus prayed that you and I be one. … Could it be that unity is the key to reaching the world for Christ? If unity is the key to evangelism shouldn’t it have precedence in our prayers?"

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On January 10, 2011

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From: MaxLucado.com

On the last night of his life Jesus prayed a prayer that stands as a citadel for all Christians:

I pray for these followers, but I am also praying for all those who will believe in me because of their teaching. Father, I pray that they can be one. As you are in me and I am in you, I pray that they can also be one in us. Then the world will believe that you sent me. (John 17:20)

How precious are these words. Jesus, knowing the end is near, prays one final time for his followers. Striking, isn’t it, that he prayed not for their success, their safety, or their happiness.

He prayed for their unity. He prayed that they would love each other.

As he prayed for them, he also prayed for “those who will believe because of their teaching.” That means us! In his last prayer Jesus prayed that you and I be one.

The Command of Acceptance

Of all the lessons we can draw from this verse, don’t miss the most important: Unity matters to God. The Father does not want his kids to squabble. Disunity disturbs him. Why? Because “all people will know that you are my followers if you love each other” (John 13:35). Unity creates belief. How will the world believe that Jesus was sent by God? Not if we agree with each other. Not if we solve every controversy. Not if we are unanimous on each vote. Not if we never make a doctrinal error. But if we love one another.

Unity creates belief. Disunity fosters disbelief. Who wants to board a ship of bickering sailors? Life on the ocean may be rough, but at least the waves don’t call us names.

Paul Billheimer may very well be right when he says:

“The continuous and widespread fragmentation of the Church has been the scandal of the ages. It has been Satan’s master strategy. The sin of disunity probably has caused more souls to be lost than all other sins combined.”2

“All people will know that you are my followers if you love each other.” Stop and think about this verse for a minute. Could it be that unity is the key to reaching the world for Christ?

If unity is the key to evangelism, shouldn’t it have precedence in our prayers? Shouldn’t we, as Paul said, “make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace” (Eph. 4:3 NW)? If unity matters to God, then shouldn’t unity matter to us? If unity is a priority in heaven, then shouldn’t it be a priority on earth?

Entire Article Here
Related:
Let Us Be ONE — a 34-part prophecy

Can 'Christians' use Paul's "Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on" statement as an excuse to not get right with those they've hurt? Paul also said: "I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men."

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On January 9, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Getting Right with Each Other, Revival, The Third Great Awakening, Who Goes to Heaven

Some ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt. They think they can press on without getting right….
I know a church leader who did this very thing publicly before the entire congregation, and twenty-some years later he still hasn’t gotten right with many people he hurt. What is he thinking? He certainly misread Paul.
Paul didn’t say he was forgetting to get right with those he hurt in the past, what Jesus said we are supposed to quickly do in Matthew 5. Much of Paul’s “pressing on” was to make sure that he did everything necessary to make sure that he would “be found in Him,” “becoming conformed to His death” that “I may attain….”
Paul was so careful to make sure he was solidly in Christ that he could without hesitation say: “be imitators together of me.” I am “an example” of how to do it. Paul actually fought and won in his struggle with demons (I’ll explain this below).
Philippians 3:

2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision. 3 For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh; 4 though I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If any other man thinks that he has confidence in the flesh, I yet more: 5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; 6 concerning zeal, persecuting the assembly; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, found blameless.

7 However, what things were gain to me, these have I counted loss for Christ. 8 Yes most certainly, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus, my Lord, for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and count them nothing but refuse, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death; 11 if by any means I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.

12 Not that I have already obtained, or am already made perfect; but I press on, if it is so that I may take hold of that for which also I was taken hold of by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers, I don’t regard myself as yet having taken hold, but one thing I do. Forgetting the things which are behind, and stretching forward to the things which are before, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, think this way. If in anything you think otherwise, God will also reveal that to you. 16 Nevertheless, to the extent that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule. Let us be of the same mind.

17 Brothers, be imitators together of me, and note those who walk this way, even as you have us for an example.

How do we know for sure that Paul got right with everyone he was supposed to, so he had a totally clear conscience? In Acts 23 and 24, Paul tells us specifically: “I also practice always having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”
Part of Paul’s “pressing on” was to make sure he was right with everyone, “having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”
Acts 23:1

Paul, looking steadfastly at the council, said, “Brothers, I have lived before God in all good conscience until this day.”

Acts 24:

1 After five days, the high priest, Ananias, came down with certain elders and an orator….

10 When the governor had beckoned to him to speak, Paul answered, “Because I know that you have been a judge of this nation for many years, I cheerfully make my defense, 11 seeing that you can recognize that it is not more than twelve days since I went up to worship at Jerusalem. 12 In the temple they didn’t find me disputing with anyone or stirring up a crowd, either in the synagogues, or in the city. 13 Nor can they prove to you the things of which they now accuse me. 14 But this I confess to you, that after the Way, which they call a sect, so I serve the God of our fathers, believing all things which are according to the law, and which are written in the prophets; 15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. 16 Herein I also practice always having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”

Paul’s battle with demons is explained in my Let Us Be ONE prophecy. “He fought and won — not at first.” “They made him obey”:

Give Up the Ghost of Pride and Settle for Nothing Other Than Love

… Do not let it get in, your pride. Don’t take it. Don’t accept it as your own. It is not from above, but from the father of lies. He remains inside of most who disobey. The demons are thick as muck, all over, festering. There is much confusion, and it is not right. They can get in. Many don’t believe they are filled. It is them, part of their personality. Yes it is, but it is not Me. You are full of them, those yukky things that wreak inside My body, making it unclean. Paul did not have these. He walked tall. They made him obey, for he learned how to live above the fray. He hated disobedience and shunned sin. He still had a spirit of pride that held him back, but it was not from Me, and you know it.

You know you are like him in many ways, hurting, because you haven’t given your all. He overcame. Sin had taken him for a ride. He had hurt many, taking them into prison, putting them in chains—people like you who proclaim the Gospel. He took time to pray and overcame His grief. He was amazing, and is with Me, happy, because he fought and won—not at first. It took time. He needed to be holy. Righteousness came, and he grew until he became great in My thinking, full of Me, pride no longer. He humbled himself, and slowly became obedient until the point of death. He hurt.

Many are in dismay. They think he is great, that no one can be like him, but you will do better. He faltered. You, as a body can do much better. You can be one, you in Me, all under authority, all led by Me, all together, all one, hand in hand, much better than it was. Can you believe it? …

So what are we waiting for. [WordPOWER!] Jesus on reconciliation in Matthew 5: If you remember that your brother has anything against you, reconcile quickly or . . .
Paul can no longer be used as an excuse: “I also practice always having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” / “Brothers, I have lived before God in all good conscience until this day.”
I’m currently ending my Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way article with this:

That we may have boldness on the day of judgment.

1 John:

2:28 Now, little children, remain in him, that when he appears, we may have boldness, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

4:16 We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him. 17 In this[,] love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

Those who won’t get right with those they know they should will not only be in big trouble on Judgment Day, but they can also be standing in the way of the Third Great Awakening from happening. If God came now in His glory how many would get zapped: Mike Bickle: Making a Purity Covenant so the HOLY Spirit can come and we won’t get zapped … to bless His heart — that we may be ONE!
Reconciliation prepares the way so we can have full revival, which is actually just real Christianity: Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Enabling abusive people helps them prolong their agony. Imagine the joy they could have when they’re free, like this woman at Asbury!
On the other hand, helping abusers reconcile is preparing the way for the Kingdom — so fruit remains and we’re all happy — when God is again clearly in our midst!
If we build it He will come!
He’s just waiting in the meantime.
ONE will happen when we reconcile — become right with each other.
And the more God shows up the easier it will be to see our sin, and the less we’ll be concerned about what man thinks when we admit what we’ve done. The fear of God will supersede the fear of man.
The people who hurt people don’t want to lose face, but usually the people see the sin anyway. They’re not really getting away with anything. They might be able to fool some people, but many know — especially the prophetic — and that’s why they don’t like and even James-3 curse those who are gifted by God to know — and love-inspired by God to not give up either.
In Bible school, Frank used to say “You can either fall on the Rock or the Rock will fall on you.” Which do you prefer? Get right with God voluntarily and experience the joy of the Lord and the good fruit that will follow, or stay feeling guilty (condemnation actually – Romans 8:1, including 8:1b) until the tragic consequences finally occur. “It’s a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.” Which is what Hebrews 10 says happens to willful sinners.
So why not get right now? The woman at Asbury said it would kill her if she admitted to people that she had lied to them. But then when she did, God filled her with so much joy!!!
And right now, we’re looking at the collapse of America. Do you want to be the one who kept the revival from happening, so God couldn’t show up and help us through the difficult times ahead?
Right now, the church is basically powerless. A main reason is The Achan Factor: The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience, the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan Factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!
I’m not sure how to end this.
If you’ve hurt people that you know you are supposed to apologize to, please just do the right thing no matter how hard it may seem. Fear God, not man and “go forth and multiply.” Perhaps God is saying that when one starts and experiences the joy and freedom, then many others will also get right with those they’ve hurt.
You can be the catalyst that started the whole thing!!!
Focus on the fruit that will come, and just do it. Many of us have known all along anyway. From many of us you’ll get big smiles, not put downs. We’re in this together. The fear of man is overrated (demon empowered) and the fear of God is tremendously underrated when we’re not close to Him.
We can start the Third Great Awakening! God can and will show up when the Achans, Ananiases and Sapphiras come clean.
The Third Great Awakening just has to start at just one church, and then it will spread like wildfire — people coming from everywhere wondering how we did it!
Jeff Fenske : )
Related:
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “Let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned.”
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent
[WordPower!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Paul aimed to always please the Lord, knowing that all we do will be “revealed before the judgment seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”
The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?
My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!
[3-minute video] The Hermeneutics of Language: Few still say “You’re welcome.” | The Benchmark of the Psychopathy: The almost organic inability to look back, to recognize error, hurt, disappointment and pain — an inability to appreciate consequence and to take responsibility for actions of one’s past
Clive Boddy: Corporate Psychopaths Rule Over Us — The key thing about psychopaths is they’ve got no conscience. If you caught them lying, they wouldn’t be flustered. They come across as almost better than everybody else, and they can make you feel as if you’ve just met your next best friend. By the time that you realize who they really are…
Are Today’s Pastors Part Sociopath? — “Sociopaths never accept the slightest responsibility for anything that goes wrong, even though they’re responsible for almost everything that goes wrong. You’ll never hear a sincere apology from them.”
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the "Achan factor" among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

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On January 9, 2011

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Rick taught this at Abbott Loop in Anchorage, many years ago.
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From: SermonCentral.com

The Achan Factor!
by George Dillahunty
Joshua 7:1-7:1

While no one was looking, Achan wrapped his discovery in a Babylonian garment, put it on like a backpack and took it to his tent! That evening, Achan dug a hole in the floor and buried his “looted” treasure there! Achan knew he had sinned – how do we know? Because he hid what he had taken! If he was unaware of his disobedience, he would have taken his “war booty” and flaunted it before his friends, bragging about how good he had done in the campaign and what he would be taking home to his family because of his combat prowess! You see, church, it was the custom of ancient warfare that the spoils of battle were given to the soldiers – this being, on occasion, their only source of payment for their services – not this time, however, for Jericho was the “devoted thing”!

The next city to be taken under Almighty God’s “Battle Plan” was a little place called Ai – compared to the city of Jericho, Ai was a small country town with no standing Army of its own! Ai was basically nothing more than a wide spot on a camel trail! Joshua, the Commanding Officer of the Israelite Army, thinking that this would be an easy victory and not worthy of his personal attendance, sent the Army out to war without him! However, Almighty God was about to teach the children of Israel a valuable lesson!

As the Israelite Army approached the town of Ai, their faith quickly evaporated! The men of Ai threw open the town gates and charged at the Israelites wielding farm implements and sticks! Soon, the Israelites realized that something was wrong – why? Because they were losing men – people were dying – they were losing the battle – and none of that was a part of God’s Battle Plan! After fleeing for their lives and returning to Joshua, they told him that “something was wrong!!”

They had lost thirty-six (36) men trying to take the little town of Ai; but, had lost no one when they took the city of Jericho! So, what was wrong with that picture? Joshua fell on his face before Almighty God and asked Him what was wrong? Almighty God revealed the fact that there was a thief among them and when Joshua dealt with the thief, Almighty God said that His blessing would return! Perhaps that seems harsh to you; however, Almighty God could not tolerate a violation of His law!

Joshua lined up all twelve tribes of Israel and began an inquiry into the matter! The population totals were enormous, coming to a figure approaching three million people, so the interview process lasted a day and part of another day! All of this time, Almighty God was allowing Achan to confess – but, Achan remained mute!

Eventually, Almighty God showed Joshua, through a word of knowledge, who it was! Achan must have been sweating profusely….

Almighty God gave Achan plenty of time to confess and he still had not done it! Because of one man’s disobedience, the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan Factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Entire Article Here
Related:
My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?
My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!
If we build it He will come: “Let Us Be ONE” (A Prophecy)
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!

Aniticipating the Third Great Awakening: New Bumper Sticker On the Way!

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On November 18, 2010

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Soon it will be on NOHATE


From: Northern Sun

Who will lead the Third Great Awakening? "The only one qualified to preach is the one who wants to run the other way, like Jonah. The man, however, who loves to talk, loves to be public, and enjoys being seen and heard…"

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On November 11, 2010

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Are his initials R. S.?
From: Charisma

The Power and the Pain of True Prophetic Preaching

J. Lee Grady

No true message from God will flow through a person who is smug and self-confident. If you want to speak for Him, prepare to die!


“We measure the impact of a sermon not by whether hearts were slain by Holy Ghost conviction but by how loud the preacher shouted or how high the people jumped when the preacher told them what they wanted to hear.”

… The power of prophetic preaching actually works in the opposite way we assume it should. If we view things carnally, we believe God chooses gifted orators who hone and shape their skills like a doctor who learns surgery or an actor who learns to perform on stage.
But true preaching is not a natural exercise—it is actually one of the most supernatural tasks anyone can ever be called to do. It requires an imperfect human vessel to yield himself (or herself) to speak the very words of God. If we do it in the flesh, the results will be miserable; but if we wholly trust the power of the Spirit, prophetic preaching will unleash God to move however He desires.
If we fail in this process, we are humiliated. Why would anyone want to preach?
No wonder most of the leaders we encounter in the Bible were reluctant to speak. Moses made excuses about stuttering, Gideon tried to disqualify himself and Jeremiah complained to the Lord about the weighty responsibility of carrying a prophetic burden. Jonah bought a one-way ticket to the other side of the Mediterranean Sea so he wouldn’t have to give his unpopular sermon.
And the apostle Paul, who was a silver-tongued Pharisee before he met Christ, was stripped of his worldly eloquence before he preached throughout the Roman Empire. He told the Corinthians: “I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God” (1 Cor. 2:3-5, NASB).
Charismatic revivalist Arthur Katz, who died three years ago, wrote about the power of true preaching in his 1999 book Apostolic Foundations: “The only one qualified to preach … is the one who wants to run the other way, like Jonah. The man, however, who loves to talk, loves to be public, and enjoys being seen and heard, need not think that a word like this will ever be emitted from his mouth. The man who sighs and groans when called upon to speak, who does not want to be there, who feels terribly uncomfortable, who knows that he is not going to be understood, is the man out of whose mouth the word of true preaching is most likely to come.”
That is certainly not the way most of us view pulpit ministry in contemporary America. We celebrate the smooth and the polished. We measure the impact of a sermon not by whether hearts were slain by Holy Ghost conviction but by how loud the preacher shouted or how high the people jumped when the preacher told them what they wanted to hear.
That kind of carnal preaching may win the accolades of men, boost TV ratings and even build megachurches. But the kingdom is not built on smug self-confidence. We need God’s words. The church will live in spiritual famine until broken, reluctant, weak and trembling preachers allow His holy fire to come out of their mouths.
If this is your assignment, die to your fears, doubts and excuses and drink the cup of suffering that accompanies the genuine call of God.

Entire Article Here

ALCC — The gathering of the clans

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On October 2, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Getting Right with Each Other, Personal, Revival

We need each other to be a complete, functioning body.

We need the gathering of the clans.
We need to reach out, admit where we were wrong
and welcome them back into our midst.

May we be one in Christ —
strong and healthy.

“Then the world will know” —
John 17 realized among us!

: )

Related:
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?” | My theory …
Asbury Revival, 1970: “Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?”
[Mike Bickle IHOP 3/08] Making a Purity Covenant: Seven Practical Commitments — The Lord will visit IHOP-KC with an open door of glory in the spirit and a door of ministry to the nations. When Jesus opens a door of glory to release more of His manifest presence then He requires more agreement with His heart (a higher standard of obedience). … This is a promise with a warning of judgment.

"If we build it He will come"

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On October 2, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Personal, Revival

The Third Great Awakening may begin here in Alaska
(I’ve been saying this for years).

“Great doctrine produces
great Christians and great churches.”

One can happen at Abbott Loop!

: )

Related:

Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

 

[Anchorage] Wednesday Night Bible Doctrines Class at Abbott Loop

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On September 26, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church

This is worthwhile, and is basically free. The $10 covers the cost of the handouts.
From: abbottloop.org…

Wednesday Night Bible Doctrines Class

A Wednesday night Bible Doctrines class will be starting on September 8th. The class will be from 7 p.m. – 8:15 p.m. If you are interested in taking the class please call the church at 349-9641 to register.

There will be a charge of $10 per person for the class. Child care will be provided up to age 4.

You can sign up in the foyer after Sunday services or contact the church office at 349-9641.

Related:
Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

"Abbott Loop must be ONE." Let's escape the deception and go onto unity!

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On September 16, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Doctrines Demystified, Doctrines of Demons?, Who Goes to Heaven

I’ve desired to write this post ever since I heard this message, but I wanted to post the ALCC-goals photo first. I’m tired of being called ‘divisive’ when I’ve been calling for unity all along. And we can only be unified when we realize that loving each other as much as we love ourselves isn’t an option if we are to be going-to-heaven, real Christians. And this has not been done.
Do we mean this or not? Many are waiting:

The only way I see John-17 unity happening (short of a total collapse of our nation) is for us to get certain doctrines right, especially our salvation doctrine, which
This is why who goes to heaven is such a big key. It’s not only about where we spend eternity, but it’s about getting real Christianity happening now, which I believe will bring about the Third Great Awakening happening now — here in Anchorage? Why not? We can do it!

What I’m addressing here was said publicly (it’s even online at abbottloop.org… and as a podcast), so I’m responding publicly. We can’t let our egos get in the way. This is about life and death. This is the greatest deception that I’m convinced is the fundamental reason for the fall of America, let alone the horrendous stats of such a tiny percentage of ‘Christians’ actually going to heaven. See How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%?!!
Pastor Joshua Tanner said this in his Sunday message, 7/18/10, entitled: Collossians 2:1-10 “United in Him”:

“Verse 4 [of Col. 2]: ‘Now this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words.’

You know that I really think deception is the key thing that the Devil wants to bring into the church, because he knows that Jesus has got your heart.

I think [it’s] virtually impossible to deceive someone so much that they lose their salvation. This is my personal opinion.” (And Josh has taught this before. See my link, below.)

The truth is that we don’t have to wonder about what the Bible says. The Bible specifically teaches that it’s easy to lose ones salvation. And Paul directly answers this question in Galatians:

7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh [5:19-21] will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit [5:16-18, 22-24] will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Here is the full text, which includes Paul’s most complete lists of who goes to heaven and who doesn’t, and most Christians are clearly not fully in the who-goes-to-heaven list, including most pastors.

16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

25 If we live by the Spirit, let’s also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let’s not become conceited, provoking one another, and envying one another.

1 Brothers, even if a man is caught in some fault, you who are spiritual must restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; looking to yourself so that you also aren’t tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if a man thinks himself to be something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each man test his own work, and then he will take pride in himself and not in his neighbor. 5 For each man will bear his own burden.

6 But let him who is taught in the word share all good things with him who teaches. 7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh [5:19-21] will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit [5:16-18, 22-24] will from the Spirit reap eternal life. 9 Let us not be weary in doing good, for we will reap in due season, if we don’t give up.

10 So then, as we have opportunity, let’s do what is good toward all men, and especially toward those who are of the household of the faith.

It’s crucial that we come to an understanding about what the Bible really teaches. Then we can become ONE in Him. “Then the world will know” (Jesus in John 17) — and we will be so happy!!!
We can lead the world into revival!
Jeff Fenske : )
Related:
Abbott Loop has apparently joined the once-saved-always-saved camp — “the doctrine that’s bringing US down into the pit” and keeping us apart. But what does the Bible really say?
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way
My $6,000 Challenge! I will give $6,000 to anyone who can refute my “Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way” article
Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved

Abbott Loop CC's Sign — "Our Vision: A Pursuing Love of God and One Another"

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On September 16, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Photos

9/1/10

Related:
Abbott Loop CC Cross: We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!
Something Good is Going to Happen? Abbott Loop CC Cup — “Jesus is Lord.” We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

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On September 9, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Doctrines Demystified, FreedomQuotes

So what does this say about what’s required for full revival to happen?

My answer, below.

– jeff

“Good doctrine produces
good Christians and good churches.

Bad doctrine or no doctrine produces
weak Christians and weak churches.”

– Kevin Conner, theologian —
one of my teachers at Abbott Loop’s Bible School in 1984

Quote transcribed by myself
from Rick Benjamin’s PowerPoint slide
during last night’s introduction
to the doctrinal classes that ALCC is now offering.

* * *

Could we then say that:

“The false doctrine of eternal security produces
false ‘Christians’ and false churches.

Whereas:

“Great doctrine produces
great Christians and great churches…

the Third Great Awakening?!!!!!!!”

Related:

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

Charles Finney: ETERNAL SECURITY is a TICKET TO HELL — “If a person gets the idea that because he is converted therefore he will assuredly go to heaven, that man will almost assuredly go to hell”

Charles Finney (1835): Instruction of Young Converts — “AIM AT BEING PERFECT. It should be their constant purpose to live wholly to God…. IF THEY SHOULD SIN it would be an inconsistency…. THEY OUGHT NOT TO SIN AT ALL; they are bound to be as holy as God is. And young converts should be taught to set out in the right course OR THEY WILL NEVER BE RIGHT”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT”

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: "There is MIGHT and there is POWER and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…"

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On March 16, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Forgive & Be FREE, James-3 Cursing People, Personal, Prophecies Dreams & Visions, Revival

I got this word from God for a church founder in Anchorage, 20 years ago, while getting ready to discuss with the then, head pastor what I had recently been shown about why God couldn’t move in our church. It says a lot about what needs to happen for real Christianity and full revival to occur.
And this is also a salvation issue:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

This is the prophecy that inspired my license plate:

Aug, 9,1990

“Our eyes are full of sawdust. We can’t see clearly to see the kingdom. There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to feel his hurt deeply and say kind words of salve that heal their souls.

[D–––] can do this. This is vital. They are necessary. For he must do this for healing to occur. He is a man of integrity in many ways.

Fear must decrease. Love must increase. He will fight and he will win the battle over the stronghold of fear and unforgiveness, sayeth the Lord.”

Related:
Prophetic Vision of Two Rivers — Many MINISTERS BEGIN in the CLEAN river, that only PUBLIC REPENTANCE & HUMILITY can restore • “He wouldn’t endure SOUND DOCTRINE,” utterly convinced he was alive • Highly trained character ASSASSINS stop at nothing to silence those who speak out and challenge carnal practices of the modern church system • Clearest, MOST BEAUTIFUL WATER I’ve ever seen, living and vibrant, where His POWER and ANOINTING was found!!!

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!

(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: RECONCILIATION the KEY! — “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘I just hit my 34th person and I’m free!’”

Rick Joyner: “REPENTANCE includes RESTITUTION for the wrongs that have caused injury to others”

What Does God Say About Lying PRESStitutes, Politicians & Pastors: “ALL LIARS, their part is in the lake that burns with fire”

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

Prophecy: Jesus’ Heart-Cry: “Let Us Be ONE” — Life has ceased for a reason. The church is dirty, a place of filth. It is not My home. How can I dwell among an unclean people who hurt each other, who tell each other stories, who hurt from the heart those that care?

Why Leaders Won’t Repent: “I was HURTING INSIDE, but I was much TOO PROUD TO SHOW IT.” “A leader has to have been broken in order to get himself out of the way and realize that he’s not really in the control he thinks he is.” “My gods were ‘get ahead,’ ‘get power.’ I really enjoyed it. I loved being saluted” – Chuck Colson

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

How Jezebel Killed One of the Greatest Revivals Ever — Before Azusa Street in 1906, there was the Welsh Revival in 1904

(video) The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next, even greater revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!

Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s *1909 prophecy* of the SHEKINAH GLORY RETURNING to the church *in 100 years*: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. ..the fear of God was on the community, and…they were highly esteemed” | My theory …

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?

“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent

Hume on Reconciliation: ~”IF YOU’VE MADE A MISTAKE, a blunder, ADMIT IT to yourself, and then GO to the people affected by it, and admit it to them, and TELL THEM YOU’RE SORRY — FULL-HEARTedly and OPENLY. People who do that make an enormous impression. It is the RIGHT, MORAL and SMART thing to do.”

My comment on Francis Frangipane’s post: “Francis, do you remember how you prophesied in Wasilla, Alaska about the REVIVAL happening up here to such a great degree that…” | Paul made sure he was right with everyone, but how many pastors can say that today? | “There is might and there is power and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…

(video) A taste of JESUS’ AGONY because His people have HURT SO MANY… – Gary Clark Jr: When My Train Pulls In (Live at Farm Aid 2014)

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!
Awakening Meetings End at IHOP. Why?

Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
If we build it He will come:

“Let Us Be ONE” (A Revival Prophecy)

[photo] Abbott Loop Christian Center (Abbott Loop Community Church) — 198

 

(photo) Abbott Loop CC Cross: We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

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On March 9, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Photos

Update: I’ve been told that this cross did not survive the March-2012 roof collapse.

It had been moved from front and center to the west wall, which took the biggest hit.

Someone should resurrect this theme.

– –

Jesus:

Most certainly I tell you,
unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies,
it remains by itself alone.
But if it dies, it bears much fruit.

12/2/09

On Abbott Loop Community Church’s west wall

It used to be front and center
“What happened?”

ALCC’s cross and wheat logo

The idea comes from what Jesus said in John 12:

24 Most certainly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains by itself alone. But if it dies, it bears much fruit. 25 He who loves his life will lose it. He who hates his life in this world will keep it to eternal life. 26 If anyone serves me, let him follow me. Where I am, there will my servant also be. If anyone serves me, the Father will honor him.

Paul taught (and Frank taught in Bible school) Jesus is The Pattern in Php 2:

1 If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassion, 2 make my joy full, by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 3 doing nothing through rivalry or through conceit, but in humility, each counting others better than himself; 4 each of you not just looking to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also highly exalted him….

12 So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God who works in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.

14 Do all things without murmurings and disputes, 15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you are seen as lights in the world.

Related:

Something Good is Going to Happen? Abbott Loop CC Cup — “Jesus is Lord.” We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
[photo] Abbott Loop Christian Center (Abbott Loop Community Church) — 1985

Abbott Loop has apparently joined the once-saved-always-saved camp — "the doctrine that’s bringing US down into the pit" and keeping us apart. But what does the Bible really say?

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On March 8, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Doctrines of Demons?, Personal, Who Goes to Heaven

[Updated 9/15/14 with additional text and reformatting]

Please also see:

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there isglory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

I have to say that I’m kind of flabbergasted, and for sure, disappointed, but at least it’s out in the open now. And this is partly what has encouraged me to finally, officially launch My $6,000 Challenge! I will give $6,000 to anyone who can refute my Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way article.

Background:

I am convinced that once-saved-always-saved (OSAS or eternal security) is The Great Deception and the main reason for the fall of real Christianity and the fall of America. I have written Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?, which no one has been able to refute, and is basically the opposite of what was taught in Anchorage one week ago, in the church that at one time used to be so into holiness.

I attended part of Abbott Loop Community Church‘s Sunday service on 2/28/10. For the first time, ever, I heard from the pulpit once-saved-always-saved taught as fact. It was just a side-note to the message on wisdom, but it’s plain as day. According to Joshua Tanner, a born-again Christian “can have sexual immorality,” “lie and steal,” and Jesus will accept him into heaven. He just doesn’t get his “gift.”

Here is my transcription from the podcast, Call to Character – Wisdom (starting at minute-37), head pastor Joshua Tanner speaking [he was actually joking around quite a bit and impersonating goofy voices, which is part of the reason for the congregation laughing. But this is no laughing matter].
Josh starts out well, saying:

“What they ought to be: you love correction enough to first even look at the Word and say ‘my life’s not in alignment.'”

But then he says:

“Not go: [in a goofy voice] ‘It doesn’t really mean that I can’t have sexual immorality, and I can’t live, you know and lie and steal, and do whatever I want. It doesn’t really mean that. Grace, it’s all covered by the grace of God. I can do whatever I want. I’m going to stand before Jesus and He’s going to love me anyway.’

Yeah, He is going to love you. And He took all judgment on you for all those decisions you’re going to make. But you know what you’re going to do: live a powerish, lame, weak life. You’re going to stand before God and He’s going to go, ‘why? [in a goofy voice] Ohhhh. No gift for you [congregation laughs]. [Josh laughs] Right.

Like, ‘over to the healing leaves. You go to the healing leaves.’ That’s in Revelation. I don’t know what those are, but there’s the healing leaves for the saints.

[goofy voice] ‘Oh sweet Lord. I don’t know why I was so foolish, mmmm. I had all the truth I could ever want. Those healing leaves, healing leaves. Man, these things don’t smell good. Why, Lord?’ [congregation laughing]”

Related:
‘Fables’ taught by Mark Drake in Anchorage: Jesus didn’t really mean that we must ‘overcome’ in Revelation 2 & 3 = Steve Hill’s Lie #2, 3 & 5

Is It Right: To Judge, To Expose Error & To Name Names? — Those who are faithful in exposing error according to the Bible are now being widely denounced, and are accused of being unloving and unkind

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?
How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

(Video) Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved — Joe Schimmel (known for They Sold Their Souls for Rock N Roll – demolishes OSAS!)

David Pawson on Paul and James: Paul was defending Gentiles from Jewish *works-of-the-law* legalism; James was defending Jews from Gentile license to sin. • When Paul says ‘works’ he means *works of the law,* but James means *actions*. • “Faith without actions cannot save you.” • FAITH + ACTIONS = SAVING FAITH!

The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled – John 10:27-29! — “Only those who are hearing and following Christ right now are his sheep”

[ Video ] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security
The Believer’s Conditional Security : Eternal Security Refuted, by Dan Corner (801 page end-of-story book, but doesn’t cover who then does go to heaven, biblically)

[ Video ] Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

Why are WORSHIP SERVICES DEAD? God OPPOSES the PROUD, but He longs to give grace to the humble. ” • “THERE IS MIGHT and there is POWER and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there isglory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

Rick Joyner: “REPENTANCE includes RESTITUTION for the wrongs that have caused injury to others”

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: RECONCILIATION the KEY! — “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘I just hit my 34th person and I’m free!’”

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”

My comment on Francis Frangipane’s post: “Francis, do you remember how you prophesied in Wasilla, Alaska about the REVIVAL happening up here to such a great degree that…” | Paul made sure he was right with everyone, but how many pastors can say that today? | “There is might and there is power and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…

“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent (prophecy)

[WordPower!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)

The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!

Rhydian Roberts: The Prayer — “Let this be our prayer WHEN WE LOSE OUR WAY. Lead us…guide us with your grace to A PLACE WHERE WE’LL BE SAFE” (Rhydian Roberts is Welsh, by the way)

Theme for the Third Great Awakening, Rhydian Roberts: Somewhere — “We’ll find a new way of living. We’ll find a way of forgiving – Somehow – Someday – Somewhere!” — ‘ONE’ Will Happen!!!!!!!

[ video – The MOST BEAUTIFUL SONG! ] Benny Hester: “When God Ran”

R. T. Kendall's landmark forgiving others message is now available as a podcast!

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On February 8, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Forgive & Be FREE

Follow-up on Awesome R. T. Kendall forgiving message and response at ALCC today! … and Abbott Loop podcast clarification
This message is just now available as a podcast, but still isn’t available to be listened to at Abbott Loop’s multimedia page, directly, but should soon. And they have info on the podcast.

Awesome R. T. Kendall forgiving message and response at ALCC today! | My personal blog | Watch R. T. live online speak at the Holy Spirit Conference in Anchorage 1/31 – 2/3!

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On January 31, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Alaska, Personal

UPDATED after hearing R. T.’s message, tonight.
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This is a follow-up of: Alaska: R. T. Kendall, author of “Total Forgiveness” (a forgive-others-&-be-free book) will be speaking at Abbott Loop on Sunday
Wow! The R. T. Kendall’s message on forgiving couldn’t have been better at Abbott Loop this morning — seriously! I have never heard anyone ever really speak of how to totally forgive; though, I’ve been researching this for two decades.
R. T. did it in about 45 minutes, using the Joseph example as a back-drop. And the people responded virtually en masse! Art Mathias had laid the foundation, and R. T. Kendall is bringing us toward home plate. We’re not there yet, though.
I’m so excited — floored — dumfounded! We now have the fruitful garden from which the never-ending revival will happen big-time!!! A revival that will simply be real Christianity flourishing in our midst for ever. The never-ending revival!!! I see it!
I took a bunch of pics during the message that I hope to post soon either here, or at my personal blog, or both. I haven’t decided where to post things yet. I do have a personal category here at ONEcanhappen, and my personal blog is so filled with Cargo’s Last Stand and other photos. I guess I’ll just play it all by ear, post by post. I don’t want to unnecessarily alienate people who are visiting to look at photos at jefffenske.com by putting a lot of spiritual stuff on there. But on the other hand, the spiritual stuff that is happening now is so cool (and the world is getting so dark) that I think less and less people will be offended.
jefffenske.com isn’t prominently linked from ToBeFree or ONEcanhappen, because I’ve been out of touch with my webMASTER for quite a while now. He taught me a lot, but he did the linked icons on the right side of the site. I can’t do what he can do.
Anyway, the last thing I wanted to mention here is that I just found out today that R. T. Kendall is up here for a conference at Muldoon Community Assembly of God church, here in Anchorage. It looks like he’ll be speaking all four days, starting in a few minutes. Here is the schedule: http://blog.mcaonline.org/?p=3026. And this is where the conference can be watched online (but apparently only as a live stream): http://www.voicetothevillage.net/Webcast/VttV_Webcast.html.
Cheers!

Jeff : )
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UPDATE:
I just watched R. T. speak his message, tonight, online.
The sound was pretty poor, but I could make out most of the words by cranking up my amp.
It looks like they’ve figured it out now.
Also, there’s no need to login. That’s just for the chat room.
R. T. spoke the same message tonight that he spoke at Abbott Loop this morning — to my delight! And he added one aspect that I didn’t catch this morning: that it’s the Holy Spirit’s job to convict those who’ve hurt us. It’s not ours. We can just totally let it go, trusting God to do His job — not taking on His job.
The seven points he makes are incredible. I’ll probably be posting more on this teaching in the near future.
I would love to ask R. T. how he came up with these seven points. He mentioned a few personal examples in these messages, but it would be wonderful to hear how he has put together what I have seen no one else achieve.
Praise God!!!!!!! I’ve been so hungry to find forgiving teaching that actually totally works….
: )
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Related:
My notes: R. T Kendall’s 4th message at Muldoon A of G: On being tomorrow’s man or woman | Being thankful for everything! | The most neglected teaching on the Holy Spirit: The dove is a very shy, sensitive bird. You can be in a car and someone is driving so slow in front of you and the Dove just flies away. Or “I’m just telling the truth,” but the Dove flies away. Let’s learn to get the Dove to come down and maybe the FIRE will fall!

Abbott Loop podcast clarification

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On January 30, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church

Two days ago, I posted Alaska: R. T. Kendall, author of “Total Forgiveness” (a forgive-others-&-be-free book) will be speaking at Abbott Loop on Sunday, in which I mentioned the ALCC podcast. But today, I’m thinking that maybe some would be confused if they would sign up for the podcast and then hear Rick speaking the most recent message.
For those unfamiliar with Abbott Loop Community Church (formerly called Abbott Loop Christian Center) in Anchorage, Alaska, Rick Benjamin had been senior pastor for 19 years until September of 2008, when Joshua Tanner took over. Rick mentioned this and what he’s been doing since in the introduction to his message, last Sunday, but ALCC cut this out of the podcast. I don’t quite understand why, but this could be confusing for listeners who had heard he’d stepped down. So I thought I’d clarify with this post.
Of their currently posted podcasts, the only message that I highly recommend people listen to (before it rotates out) is the message by Art Mathias about forgiving others. This message was a historical landmark in ALCC history for a number of reasons. Yay, Art — and the current leaders who allowed Art to speak!! Bravo!!!
And forgiving others is a key ingredient to real revival happening — so we can have church once again!!
Jeff Fenske
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Related: Art Mathias on It’s Supernatural: Spiritual Roots of Disease — Healed Through Forgiving (If there is pain in a memory there is unforgiveness)

Alaska: R. T. Kendall, author of "Total Forgiveness" (a forgive-others-&-be-free book) will be speaking at Abbott Loop on Sunday

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On January 28, 2010

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Alaska, Forgive & Be FREE, No Enemy

R. T. Kendall, author of Total Forgiveness (a forgiving others book) will be speaking at Abbott Loop Community Church (ALCC) next Sunday morning in Anchorage, Alaska. The receptionist didn’t know what his topic would be. Service starts at 10am.
From: Amazon’s product description of Total Forgiveness:

When everything in you wants to hold a grudge, point a finger and remember the pain, God wants you to lay it all aside. You can avoid spiritual quicksand and experience the incredible freedom found in total forgiveness. Is total forgiveness easy? Of course not…but this book will give you a game plan…and the encouragement to cast out areas of unforgiveness that have kept you from enjoying the best God has to offer you.

From: Wikipedia

Robert Tillman Kendall (b. July 13, 1935) is a Christian writer, speaker, and teacher who pastored Westminster Chapel for 25 years. He is author of more than 40 books, including Total Forgiveness.[1] Kendall is currently listed as part of the Word, Spirit & Power team, a non-denominational Charismatic ministry.

Please pray for revival to happen at ALCC, and please pray for me. I have an opportunity right now for which I’ve been waiting many years. Please pray that hearts would be open to the truth.
ONEcanhappen in 2010!!!
Jeff : )
Related:
Art Mathias (my State Farm insurance agent for almost 30 years!) recently spoke this very-important-for-us message on forgiving at ALCC, which can be listened to at ALCC’s podcast!
Abbott Loop podcast clarification
Art Mathias on It’s Supernatural: Spiritual Roots of Disease — Healed Through Forgiving (If there is pain in a memory there is unforgiveness)

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