Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill on ANTINOMIANISM (‘against law’ – “YOU’RE NOT GOING TO PUT ME INTO BONDAGE”): What they fail to realize is that now, under the new covenant, the law is written on our hearts. JESUS BROKE the POWER OF SIN on our lives, so by the Spirit we can LIVE OUT the righteous requirements of the law. “Adultery refers to ADULTERY OF THE HEART and not just the physical act.” “Sin will love you for a season and curse you for eternity.”

From: Spiritual Avalanche: The threat of false teachings that could destroy millions, by Steve Hill

Antinomianism

It’s a short jump from the hyper-grace message to complete antinomianism, which literally means “against law.” In practice, it means that “anything goes,” since Jesus has set us free. “You’re not going to put me into bondage….” The problem is, Jesus didn’t set us free to sin; He set us free from sin.

Once again there are scriptural truths that antinomians emphasize, such as we are under grace, not law (Rom. 6:14); we died to the law so that we could now live to serve God (Rom. 7:1—6); and we are no longer under the tutelage of the law (Gal. 3:24—25).

What they fail to realize is that now, under the new covenant, the law is written on our hearts (Heb. 8:10), and Jesus died for us and broke the power of sin on our lives, so that now, by the Spirit, we can live out the righteous requirements of the law (Rom. 8:1—4).

And they fail to realize that Jesus calls us beyond the requirements of the law in His teaching, stating, for example, that adultery refers to adultery of the heart and not just the physical act (Matt. 5:27-28). …

If we choose to live in this “freedom to sin,” then we need to know the “fate on the other end.”

Sin will take hold of your hand, kiss you on the cheek, whisper empty promises into your love-struck ear, woo you into the bedchamber, lull you to sleep, and then stab you in the back. … Sin will love you for a season and curse you for eternity.

Related:

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: The 7 Great Lies in the Church Today — Overemphasis of Prosperity • Exaggerated View of Grace (grace-changers nullify all divine warnings) • Antinomianism = against rules, so “anything goes” (but “Jesus didn’t set us free to sin; He set us free from sin”) • Gazing Upon Man, not God • Challenging the Authority of the Word (God didn’t really mean what He said) • Rejecting Hell • Universal Reconciliation

[ 9-minute video ] Steve Hill shares his vision: Spiritual Avalanche – The THREAT of FALSE TEACHINGS that could DESTROY MILLIONS — “Satan is Snowing the Saints!”

[ video ] Steve Hill on Sid Roth’s ‘It’s Supernatural’: The Spiritual Avalanche That Could Kill Millions – God’s Warning to All Christians! — “This mountain of snow is all the FALSE TEACHING that is falling on the church right now…”

[ video ] Steve Hill: Spiritual Avalanche Vision — “Dear Jesus, forgive me. I have sinned. I need You. Wash me clean. Be my Savior. Be my Lord and MY VERY BEST FRIEND! I give myself to you, Jesus. I pour myself into you, Jesus. LIVE YOUR LIFE THROUGH ME, Jesus.”

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: Many Challenge the Authority of the Word — “When the Scriptures contradict our feelings and preferences, RATHER THAN crucify our feelings and preferences and BOW DOWN BEFORE GOD and His Word, WE QUESTION GOD’S WORD”

Steve Hill: Violent Revival — “Your salvation depends on your waging violent warfare against sin. … The violent man goes to war with his sins. He doesn’t make excuses for them, he annihilates them!”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?

How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!

What is liberal Christian theology? — “Love” of our fellow man becomes the defining issue. The Greatest Commandment, ‘Life in the Son’ is ignored — where our yoke is easy and our burden is light, and we’ll find rest for our souls

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

[ video ] David Pawson on PAUL and JAMES: Paul was defending Gentiles from JEWISH *works-of-the-law* LEGALISM; James was defending Jews from Gentile LICENSE TO SIN. • When Paul says ‘WORKS’ he means *works of the law,* but James means *actions*. • “Faith without actions cannot save you.” • FAITH + ACTIONS = SAVING FAITH!

The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled – John 10:27-29! — “Only those who are hearing and following Christ right now are his sheep”

Leonard Ravenhill: Romans 7 vs 8 — Life before the Son vs Life in the Son — “Romans 7 is a funeral march, Romans 8 is a wedding march … it’s a Spirit dominated life in chapter 8.”

“Grace”: To Give You Life to Overcome—Not a License to Sin

[Lust “the poison that kills the soul” FREEDOM] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because…

The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: Many Challenge the Authority of the Word Despite its Clarity — “When the Scriptures contradict our feelings and preferences, RATHER THAN crucify our feelings and preferences and BOW DOWN BEFORE GOD and His Word, WE QUESTION GOD’S WORD”

[NOTE] Steve Hill uses the controversial homosexuality example here, but what doesn’t get as much airplay is that this is just as true of heterosexual lusters, haters, envyers, alcoholics, etc.. “Those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God. And real, going-to-heaven Christians, “those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts [absolutely including heterosexual].”

Galatians 5:

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts [absolutely including heterosexual]. …

6:7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

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From: Spiritual Avalanche: The threat of false teachings that could destroy millions, by Steve Hill

Challenging the authority of the Word

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For the most part, the challenge to the authority of the Scriptures is subtler, and some of it flows out of the deification of man: “The Bible must live up to my standards. I will judge the God of the Bible based on my morality rather than the God of the Bible judging me based on His morality.”

Because of this mentality it is more and more common to hear believers talk about the problem they have with the God of the Old Testament or to question whether the Bible really means what it says, a case in point being a pro-homosexual reading of Scripture. The problem is not that the verses aren’t clear. The problem is that we know homosexuals who say they really love the Lord and seem to be very Christlike, and they are devoted to each other as a couple and even pray together in the Spirit.

So what do we do? Rather than say to the practicing homosexuals [or to hating, heterosexual lusting, envying, lying, or etc. ‘Christians’], “You may be very sincere, but the Word of God is very clear,” we question what the Word says despite its clarity. And so, rather than speaking the truth in love to sinners and telling them that if they want to please the Lord and be in right relationship with Him, they must take up the cross and follow Him, we reinterpret (or rewrite) the Word.

In short, When the Scriptures contradict our feelings and preferences, rather than crucify our feelings and preferences and bow down before God and His Wordwe question God’s Word.

Related:

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: The 7 Great Lies in the Church Today — Overemphasis of Prosperity • Exaggerated View of Grace (grace-changers nullify all divine warnings) • Antinomianism = against rules, so “anything goes” (but “Jesus didn’t set us free to sin; He set us free from sin”) • Gazing Upon Man, not God • Challenging the Authority of the Word (God didn’t really mean what He said) • Rejecting Hell • Universal Reconciliation

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill on ANTINOMIANISM (‘against law’ – “YOU’RE NOT GOING TO PUT ME INTO BONDAGE”): What they fail to realize is that now, under the new covenant, the law is written on our hearts. JESUS BROKE the POWER OF SIN on our lives, so by the Spirit we can LIVE OUT the righteous requirements of the law. “Adultery refers to ADULTERY OF THE HEART and not just the physical act.” “Sin will love you for a season and curse you for eternity.”

[ 9-minute video ] Steve Hill shares his vision: Spiritual Avalanche – The THREAT of FALSE TEACHINGS that could DESTROY MILLIONS — “Satan is Snowing the Saints!”

[ video ] Steve Hill on Sid Roth’s ‘It’s Supernatural’: The Spiritual Avalanche That Could Kill Millions – God’s Warning to All Christians! — “This mountain of snow is all the FALSE TEACHING that is falling on the church right now…”

[ video ] Steve Hill: Spiritual Avalanche Vision — “Dear Jesus, forgive me. I have sinned. I need You. Wash me clean. Be my Savior. Be my Lord and MY VERY BEST FRIEND! I give myself to you, Jesus. I pour myself into you, Jesus. LIVE YOUR LIFE THROUGH ME, Jesus.”

Steve Hill: Violent Revival — “Your salvation depends on your waging violent warfare against sin. … The violent man goes to war with his sins. He doesn’t make excuses for them, he annihilates them!”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

To my homosexual friends: May we all overcome temptation and be ‘ONE’ in Christ! What is the ‘fury fire’ that Piper Perabo talks about? How can it be tamed? What is God’s true perspective in “The Homosexuals Will Arise” prophecy and what does Romans 1 really say?

The Homosexuals Will Arise

[Lust “the poison that kills the soul” FREEDOM] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because…

The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?

How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!

What is liberal Christian theology? — “Love” of our fellow man becomes the defining issue. The Greatest Commandment, ‘Life in the Son’ is ignored — where our yoke is easy and our burden is light, and we’ll find rest for our souls

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled – John 10:27-29! — “Only those who are hearing and following Christ right now are his sheep”

D. A. Carson: The Problem of the Canon Within the Canon — A subset of scriptures taught in exclusion of those that would result in true doctrine. “We badly need to listen to one another, especially when we least like what we hear.”

[Book] Life in the Son by Robert Shank

Pastor DIES > goes to HELL because he HADN’T FORGIVEN his wife > AROSE from the dead almost 2 days later > tells story

Dan Corner: “If you’re lusting in your heart, you are an adulterer, and you won’t inherit the kingdom.”

Gandhi: Widespread Belief Doesn’t Make an Error True

HeartQuotes: Truth — “A thing does not therefore cease to be true because it is not accepted by many” – Spinoza

WordPower: BEWARE, in the LAST DAYS People Will Be WILLINGLY IGNORANT

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it WAS PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’” Many need to get right with people they’ve hurt to be free! Then God can move!

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

[ video – The MOST BEAUTIFUL SONG! ] Benny Hester: “When God Ran”

“‘Come out from among them, and BE SEPARATE,’ says the Lord. ‘TOUCH NO UNCLEAN THING thing. I WILL RECEIVE YOU. I will be to you a Father. You will be to Me sons and daughters'”

Recently, I heard “come out from her and be separate,” while responding to a friend on Facebook.

This is yet one more scripture that shows that holiness really is required for sonship. When we touch unclean things, we make ourselves a prodigal. We forfeit our birthright.

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2 Corinthians 6:14-18

Don’t be unequally yoked with unbelievers, for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 What agreement has Christ with Belial? Or what portion has a believer with an unbeliever?

What agreement has a temple of God with idols? For you are a temple of the living God. Even as God said, “I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

Therefore, “‘Come out from among them, and be separate,’ says the Lord. ‘Touch no unclean thing. I will receive you.

I will be to you a Father. You will be to me sons and daughters,’ says the Lord Almighty.”

Related:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[ video – The MOST BEAUTIFUL SONG! ] Benny Hester: “When God Ran”

Paul aimed to always please the Lord, knowing that all will be “revealed before the judgment seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things in the body according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”

2 Corinthians 5:9-10

Therefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well pleasing to him. For we must all be revealed before the judgment seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

Related:

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Most pastors have become CONfidence men, faithfully teaching what men want to hear. But Paul was a faithful Bible truther, making sure he did not walk in craftiness handling the word of God DECEITFULLY

Most pastors, today, have become confidence men, twisting Paul’s words to fit Luther’s ‘only believe,’ once-saved-always-saved doctrine, instead of faithfully teaching the narrow way that leads to eternal life and ‘ONE’ happening — “that the world will know” (Jesus’ plan and desire revealed in John 17).

We need to be faithful to the text, regardless of what people want to hear.

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2 Corinthians 4:1-2

Therefore seeing we have this ministry, even as we obtained mercy, we don’t faint. But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by the manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

Related:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[science] Why is Lust Addictive? — SEX increases dopamine by 200 units (1/6 the height of a METH euphoria)

God wants us to be filled, but few ‘Christians,’ today, are willing to get clean highs from being in God, together. Jesus promised He’d give us His glory so ‘ONE’ can happen!! (John 17)

“And be not drunk with wine, in which is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.” (Eph. 5:18)

“I have spoken these things to you, that my joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be made full.”  (John 15:11)

Most are settling for instant gratification, and in so doing are forfeiting their birthright. Jesus said we need to do whatever we have to so we don’t lust and lose our whole bodies in hell (Mt. 5:27-30).

Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.” (Gal. 5:24)

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From: PBS.org

meth and the brain

One of the questions we often get is, why do people take this drug? …

Methamphetamine effects the centers of the brain that control judgment, control reward, and control memory. The most important one probably are the reward centers of the brain. When, when that part of the brain is stimulated dopamine’s released, and you experience that as pleasure. Under normal circumstances those responses occur for naturally occurring rewarding events.

Similarly if you put a rat, a male rate in a box and you give him access to a receptive female, and you allow them to have sex, at the point where they experience orgasm you get a huge release of dopamine. You see an increase of about 200 units. This rush is what feels good and what is experienced is pleasure. And this slide of course illustrates the principle that one orgasm equals two cheeseburgers.

Now drugs of abuse release dopamine. Alcohol, for example, produced a release of dopamine from about 100 units to about 200, You get a similar magnitude of an effect with nicotine. Cocaine produces a huge release of dopamine, from 100 units to about 350 units, however the mother of them all is methamphetamine. Methamphetamine you get a release from the base level [about 100 units – editor] to about 1250 units. A tremendous increase of dopamine. This produces an extreme peak of euphoria that people describe as something like they’ve never experienced and they probably never have experienced before because the brain really isn’t made to do this. And that’s why people will be attracted to it and want to take it over and over and over again. They want to produce that response.

Entire Article with Video Here [The above information is demonstrated at minute-15]

Related:

Why is Porn Addictive?: The hormones and neurotransmitters involved

Porn is a Drug: Neuro Chemical Addiction

How Premarital Sex Rewires the Brain — Knowing how these neurochemicals interact and change the brain help us understand why sex is meant to be kept within the boundaries of marriage

[ audio ] ‘Dr. Feelgood’ – ‘Coast to Coast AM’ 5/26/13: Bill Birnes talked about Dr. Max Jacobson, who developed a METH-based “energy formula” that altered the paths of some of the twentieth century’s most iconic figures, including JFK, Marilyn Monroe, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Hitler, Churchill, Micky Mantle, Nelson Rockefeller…

[Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because… [Demons are another key and understated addictive factor]

The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

To my homosexual friends: May we all be ‘ONE’ in Christ! What is the ‘fury fire’ that Piper Perabo talks about? How can it be tamed? What is God’s true perspective in “The Homosexuals Will Arise” prophecy and what does Romans 1 really say?

Survey of Christian Men on the Subject of Women’s Clothing — Men responded: “This area is the greatest challenge in my life!” • “Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight.” • “Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing!” • Many more

[FreedomQuote] “Women, the way a man looks at you is out of your control, but what you reveal is up to you.”

[Princeton study] Is it wrong to wear a bikini? — The fully-clothed women were seen as being in control of their own actions, whereas the immodest ones were objects to be acted upon

What does God say? Women, children and men exposing themselves to TSAs in NAKED BODY SCANNERS!

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Separation from the World — What the Early Christians Believed About Separation from the World. D. Bercot. The Bible exhorts us: “Adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” So…

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Modest Dress and Cosmetics — How literally did the early Christians take Peter’s exortation?

Wes Hall: It’s Not Just Porn! “You’re asking for power and there are areas of hidden compromise in your life. … I’m not talking about the R-rated movies. I’m talking about the PG-13s … certain sitcoms, TV shows where your spirit is being defiled.”

A Nation ‘Bewitched’: Farrah Fawcett — “When the show [Charlie’s Angels] got to be No. 3, I figured it was our acting. When it got to be No. 1, I decided it could only be because none of us wears a bra”

All of my Lust Freedom! posts [latest appear first, 10 posts per page]

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way [When we realize that lust is a salvation busting issue…]

[ real-history videos ] Galileo’s heresy was in challenging ‘The Church’ not the Bible — “Catholic authorities were concerned about people interpreting the Bible for themselves” | Their medieval geocentric view had more to do with the influence of ancient Greeks than of the Bible

Quotes transcribed by Jeff Fenske

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In Catholicism, the Magisterium is the teaching authority of the Church.[1] According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church: “The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops incommunion with him.”[2]  

(Wikipedia)

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“..Catholic authorities were concerned about people interpreting the Bible for themselves, which was the standard protestant view. And they wanted to insist that the Church, and the Church, alone has the authority to interpret scripture.

So when Galileo tries to argue that his astronomy is consistent with the Bible, it appears to them that Galileo was behaving like a protestant in wanting to interpret scripture for himself. And this was inexplicit contravention of one of the standard Catholic views that came out of the Council of Trent, that the Church was to be the interpreter of scripture, and not individuals.”

– Peter Harrison

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VlyEaesAi8]Galileo: Science vs. the Church?

 thetestoffaith | Published on Oct 23, 2012

Peter Harrison retells the story of Galileo, and says that it is not so straightforward as “the Church opposing science”.

Buy the DVD, book & study materials at http://www.testoffaith.com.

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“The medieval geocentric view, that is the view that everything in the solar system revolves around the Earth has a lot more to do with the influence of ancient Greeks like Aristotle and Ptolemy than it has to do with the Bible.”

– David Withun

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Jm2sNTSBs]The Church v. Galileo

 davidpwithun | Published on May 7, 2012

Geocentricity and the Bible — It makes sense that God would use our perspective in referring to the relative motion of the Earth and sun

From: genesismission.4t.com

Geocentricity and the Bible

There are those who claim that the Bible says that the sun and the rest of the universe go around a motionless Earth. Some use this claim to mock the Bible. Some Christians have embraced the idea….

 […]

Does the Bible say that the Earth is motionless?

The following verses are often use by Geocentrics to claim that the Earth does not move.

1 Chronicles 16:30. Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Psalm 93:1. The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is established, that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 96:10. Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously….”

The word “world:” in these verses is translated from the Hebrew word “tebel” [ Strong’s Ref. # 08398 ] and it means “the fertile and inhabited Earth.” It is likely referring to only dry land and not the Planet Earth. This is supported by the use of the same Hebrew word in geologic contexts that can only be a reference to dry land.

[…]

The Bible and sun movement

[…]

There are a total of 50 references to sun motion in the Bible, 46 of which are references to sunrise and sun set.

Ecclesiastes 1, 5: “The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.”

This verse is an excellent example of the sun’s motion as observed from the surface of the Earth and it is literally true from the observational perspective of the human author Solomon.

[…]

That leaves just 4 verses to deal with, and they are:

  • Joshua 10:12,13
  • Habakkuk 3:11
  • Isaiah 38:8
  • Psalm 19:4-6

Joshua 10: 12. Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13.  And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

This verse is part of the historic narrative of the conquest of the land of Canaan, and there is no reason to take this as referring to absolute motion. What Joshua wanted was extended daylight so that he could win a battle, to get it he asked God to stop the sun and Moon. He was not concerned with the sun and Moon’s absolute motion, but he wanted the sun to stay put in the sky, so that he would have enough day light to win the battle, and so he asked God to stop sun’s and Moon’s motion through the sky. In verse 12 Joshua asked God to do this based on what he would observe, and in verse 13, it describes God’s answer also from Joshua’s perspective. If God has switched frames of reference here the narrative would be needlessly difficult to understand. This view is supported by the fact that the second part refers to sun set, and such a reference can only be an observational description, so it logical to conclude that the entire verse is observational.

Thus this verses are shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves only three verses to deal with.

Habakkuk 3: 11. The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

This verse simply referes to the events of Joshua 10:12,13 and maintains the same observational language an so there no reason to consider this verse as refering to absolute motion.

Thus this verse is shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves only thwo verses to deal with.

Isaiah 38:8.  Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

This verse is a good scientifically described observation. It says that it went back 10 degrees and that it says that it did so relative to a specific observational device called a sun dial. Also the verse gives specific measurements; (10 degrees ), that combined with the reference to the observational device, shows that this is clearly an observational description.

Thus this verse is shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves only one verse to deal with.

Psalm 19:4-6 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.”

Geocentrics love to point out that is no place in the Bible that says the Earth orbits the sun or rotates, while this is true there is also no place in the Bible that says the sun orbits the Earth. The claim Psalm 19:4-6 says the sun orbits the Earth, but the claim does not stand up to objective scrutiny.

While this passage is little more difficult to interpret because of the clearly poetic and symbolic language, bit once again it is simply a description of the suns motion across the sky as seen by an observer on Earth. The first clue is the fact that there is no mention of the Earth, if God had intended to say the sun goes around the Earth, he could have simply said, his circuit is around the Earth or something similar but He does not. Verse 6 is describing the observed motion of the sun across the sky, and the use of the word circuit suggests the daily repeating this observed motion.

Thus these verses are shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves geocentrics with nothing. To see these verses as geocentric requires assuming that the Bible would only use absolute motion never use totally human observational descriptions. While the Bible is was written by God, He use human writer[s], writing to human readers, so it makes [sense] that God would use our perspective in referring to the relative motion of the Earth and sun.

Geocentrics seem [to] not understand the concept of relative motion. They think that relative motion is a case of … the observation being true from one view point and false from another but this is not the case. Relative motion involves describing something that is absolutely true from different perspectives. One time while flying I saw another plane go by my widow at about 1200 mph. Now it was absolutely true that the relative speed of the two planes was about 1200 mph, but while I saw that absolute truth as the other plane go by at about 1200 mph, a passenger in the other pane would have see my plane go by at about 1200 mph and an observer right below us would have seen both planes going opposite direction at about 600 mph each. Now all three of us would see the relative speed as about 1200 mph, that speed was an absolute truth, but we each saw it from a different perspective.

Applying this to the problem at hand, the absolute truth is that the sun and the Earth move relative to each other, but there are different ways of describing that relative motion and the Bible describes it from an Earth bound perspective.

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Related:

[ real-history videos ] Galileo’s heresy was in challenging ‘The Church’ not the Bible — “Catholic authorities were concerned about people interpreting the Bible for themselves” | Their medieval geocentric view had more to do with the influence of ancient Greeks than of the Bible

[ video ] Joel Skousen in studio on The Alex Jones Show 5/20/13: China/Russia’s strategy for U.S. takeover in 8+ years = EMP strike > Nuke US military > Ultimatum > China takes out Russia > “The Lord is going to drive people together”

China/Russia’s strategy for U.S. takeover in as little as 8-10 years.

1) China/Russia will shut down America through an EMP strike

2) 20 minutes later, they’ll decapitate the U.S. military through nuclear strikes

3) Then they’ll issue the blackmail notice and fully take over

4) China will attack and take out Russia?

5) “The Lord is going to drive people together”

The globalists don’t totally, directly control China and Russia. They’re manipulating them through various means.

“They’re still 8-10 years out about [having the] the confidence to strike the west. And that’s why I don’t think it’s imminent.” – Joel Skousen

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Alex continues with author Joel Scousan discussing the ongoing globalist agenda to topple the American way of life and the Public’s necessity to prepare themselves for tyranny.
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Related:

[vision] Dumitru Duduman: The Russian Invasion of America — “It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.’ Then there will be an internal revolution in America…. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans…” — The rapture will occur AFTER America is destroyed, as God destroys the enemies of Israel!

[ audio ] Henry Gruver’s Three Visions: Russian (and Chinese) Invasion of America — “When Russia opens her gates and lets the masses go, the free world will occupy themselves with transporting, housing and caring for the masses, and will begin to let their weapons down, and will cry ‘peace and safety,’ and that’s when it will happen.”

Dumitru Duduman: Wake Up America

Skousen: U.S. Intentionally Vulnerable to Nuclear Attack from China/Russia

[2-hour audio] Henry Gruver with Steve Quayle: Visions of War – Visions of Heaven

[mp3 audio] Henry Gruver’s Vision of America being invaded by Russia

[47-minute audio] Henry Gruver: Russian Invasion of America

Skousen: U.S. Intentionally Vulnerable to Nuclear Attack from China/Russia

Joel Skousen on ‘Coast’ with Excellent Interviewer John B. Wells, 12/29/10: What’s Really Going On?!!

Skousen: Analysis of Strategic Threats in the Current Decade

[Updated May 2010] Joel Skousen: Analysis of Strategic Threats in the Current Decade — The Big Picture!

12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture

In-studio with Infowarrior Alex Jones: Pastor Anderson Reveals Pre-Trib Rapture Deception — “Before the year 1830, EVERY denomination, every type of Christianity taught that the rapture took place AFTER the tribulation, because that’s what the Bible explicitly says.”

[7-minute video sneak peek] The RAPTURE will take place “AFTER THE TRIBULATION” — “Christians, today, are NOT BEING WARNED about the events they will face in the great tribulation. To learn the truth about the rapture, we must look within the pages of the Bible, itself”

Pastor Steven Anderson in Infowars studio: The Truth Left Behind — “The PRE-tribulation rapture is not based on ANY scripture.” The “Left Behind” series was fiction.

All 100 of my Joel Skousen posts in reverse chronological order