From: Revelation 21:7, 8
He who overcomes, I will give him these things. I will be his God, and he will be my son. But for the cowardly, unbelieving, sinners, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
From: cyclingnews…
When asked why he chose to come forward to ABC News Landis said, “It’s about the truth. It’s about me feeling better for having mislead the public. I would like to take this opportunity to just say that I’m sorry for having lied. I’m glad I don’t have to lie. It was hard to do interviews where I was lying. I didn’t feel good about those.”
From: abcnews…
Over the course of a 90-minute interview, Landis described in detail for “Nightline” how he says he and fellow cyclists — his former friends — doped during the Tour de France.
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CLICK HERE to watch the full report on Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong and performance-enhancing drugs in cycling [in three parts: “Did Lance Cheat?” “Under Pressure” and “Continuing Details” – ed.]
“If I’m taking on Lance Armstrong, then that should be evidence enough that there’s a problem with the system, because I’m saying it — a bunch of people did it,” Landis said. “Look. At some point, people have to tell their kids that Santa Claus isn’t real. I hate to be the guy to do it, but it’s just not real.”
We asked Landis: You’re saying Lance Armstrong is a fraud?
“Well, it depends on what your definition of fraud is,” Landis said. “I mean it — look — if he didn’t win the Tour, someone else that was doped would have won the Tour. In every single one of those Tours.”
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Nightline: I have to say, Floyd, you say it in such a matter-of-fact way. And yet, this is a man, Lance Armstrong, who has denied up and down for a decade that he’s on anything but his butt … Anything but just hard work.
Landis: I denied it as well.
Nightline: You’re saying Lance Armstrong is a liar.
Landis: Yes, I suppose, if that’s the question, yes.
Related:
Asbury Revival, 1970: “Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?”
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way
John Vian
I commend you for coming forward with the truth. Jesus said that if we are faithful to confess our sins, He will be faithful to forgive us. Confession is the first step in that long, lonely, narrow path which leads to heaven. I suggest you read God’s word. In case you didn’t know, the 1611 King James Version is the only authorized Word of God. Watch out for wolves in sheep’s clothing. People like Joel Osteen, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Orel Roberts and son, Jimmy Swaggart and son, and everyone you see on the Christian Broadcasting Network are all frauds. Good luck finding a church that isn’t a 501 C3 puppet of the government. The fact is, if any church were to preach and walk in truth, the government will be closing their doors.
If you really want to score big with God, then throw away that television set. Nothing but lies and materialistic fantasies for feeding the flesh comes from your TV. The News Media doesn’t speak anything that is truth and Jesus is never glorified in anything you watch. I also suggest that if you are rich to sell all you have and give to the poor. Not even Joe Schimmel, as much as I like the guy, would do that.
If you think I’m too radical then just remember, the road that leads to everlasting life is narrow, rough and rocky. It’s also very, very lonely for very FEW there be that travel it.
Jeff Fenske
John,
You and I would probably agree on many things, but there are a few things you said that I’d like to comment on.
501(c)3 registration is a problem for churches being hesitant to speak the truth about what is really going on politically. And it’s interesting how loudly they supported President Bush without any government opposition. But if they said what I say at ToBeFree, this could be a problem.
Mainly what I would want to say at church would be what I mainly say on this site, however. And I don’t know of one church that is fully saying what I’m saying, yet, mainly regarding doctrines and what it really means to be a Christian.
I’m trying for this site to be a think-tank for ideas as to what is really going on and what Christianity should and will again be. And part of this is “Those who are led by the Spirit are the children of God.”
Why would you take this away from Joe Schimmel? Where does it say in the Bible that Christians have to sell all they have and give it to the poor, like you state is the case for Joe?
Didn’t Jesus just say this to one many before He arose from the dead and sent the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth?
And then I can think of the early church in Acts 4:
The multitude of those who believed were of one heart and soul. Not one of them claimed that anything of the things which he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common.
In this case, they shared everything but didn’t just give everything to the poor.
I’ve actually been somewhat interested in this communal-by-choice lifestyle. Perhaps this would really work when things get really bad here in the states. It would only work if everyone what right with God and their neighbors though. The fear of God was evident to all there, and even more so after Ananias and Sapphira were killed for lying.
But nowhere that I know of does it say we have to live in a communal, sharing-everything lifestyle. But what it does say over and over is that we need to be led by the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn’t leave us as orphans….
Having money is not necessarily a problem. It’s when the money has us…. It’s when we have the “love of money,” “the root of all evil” in us….
And the solution even then may not even often be to sell all one has and give to the poor.
Everyone just need to be right with God and all people and work out their own salvation with fear and trembling, abiding in Christ and with each other who are in Christ. And we’ll just do what the Holy Spirit is leading us to do.
We should be encouraging people to do that, whatever that is.
This “we need to all be poor” teaching is, I think, a false doctrine. Paul said people need to determine in their hearts what to give (to the churches), and isn’t this also true regarding what we do with all of our money?
Plus, some people are called to the helps ministry and some aren’t. People’s callings and giftings are unique. We shouldn’t put trips on people that God isn’t.
The main thing is that we keep our hearts pure, and from that clarity we should then do what we believe in our hearts to do.
A person could actually sell all he has and give it all to the poor and not even have his heart submitted to God about this or many other things. This could be legalistic bondage.
We’re to be led by the Holy Spirit now, and out of love for one another. There are very few specific stipulations that we must obey in this new covenant. Being led by the Holy Spirit, determining to always walk in love is more specific to the individual believer.
“Now we have a better way,” the writer of Hebrews said.
We can be ONE in Him, doing it His way.
Jeff
John Vian
In response to Jeff Fenske, I’ll stick to what Jesus said in Luke 18:25. The only hope we have is that there is nothing impossible with God. I agree that every man should work for his own substinance.
concerning the 501-C3 churches:
“A more certain way to attack religion is by favor, by the comforts of life, by the hope of wealth; not by what reminds one of it, but by what makes one forget it; not by what makes one indignant, but by what makes men lukewarm, when other passions act on our souls, and those which religion inspires are silent. In the matter of changing religion, State favors are stronger than penalties.”
The Spirit of the Laws, Baron de Montesquieu (1748)
Very accurate statement…
Nothing personal toward Joe Schimmel, I can back his doctrine up with scripture. However, I can say with great accuracy that he would never sell all that he has and give to the poor.