This is an amazing story from an AMAZING man of God that we should well take heed of.
Notice what Dumitru was told when the rapture will occur — after America is destroyed, and just as God destroys the enemies of Israel:
When Israel doesn’t have the help of the Jews in America anymore, in their terror, when they see what is coming, the Jews in Israel will call upon the Messiah. The Messiah will come to help Israel. Then the church of God will meet Him in the clouds (1 Thes.4:16).
This seems to fit with what Paul said in 2 Thess.: Why There is No Pre-Trib or Mid-Trib Rapture: Jesus will destroy the Lawless One at the same time he is gathering the saints to meet him in the air
– jeff
This vision also at Dumitru’s grandson’s site: THE MESSAGE FOR AMERICA
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From: americaslastdays.blogspot.com/p/dumitru-duduman-vision-of-russian.html
Dumitru Duduman Russian Invasion of America
Dumitru Duduman was a Romanian pastor that smuggled bible into Russia. He was captured and tortured by the electric chair. When he was close to death Gabriel the archangel came to him and ministered to him and by the grace of God he was expelled out of Romania.
When he moved to America Dumitru Duduman received a vision from the Lord and Gabriel showed him all of Californian, Las Vegas, New York, Nevada, and Florida and was told that these cities were as Sodom and Gomorrah and that in one day it would burn. He was told that Revelation 17,18 and Ezekiel 38,39 talks of the Russian invasion of America Mystery Babylon and in one day it will burn.
In one day Russia will attack America by sea and destroy America by nuclear weapons.
The Nations that will attack and destroy America are Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and 2 others that where forgotten but one may be China according to Henry gruver’s vision of the destruction of America.
Dumitru Duduman
The Russian Invasion of America
It was late at night and I couldn’t stay inside because of the smell. I was sitting outside on a rock. A light came toward me. The fear of cars came with me. The Romanian Police tried to run over me with cars. That’s why I jumped up. The light surrounded me. Out of the light I heard the same voice. It said, “Dumitru, why are you so despaired?”
I said, “Why did you punish me? What did I do that was so rotten that you brought me to the United States? I have nowhere to lie my head down upon. I can’t understand anybody.”
He said, “Dumitru, didn’t I tell you that I am here with you also? I brought you here to this country because this country will burn.”
“Then why did you bring me here to burn? Why didn’t you let me die in my own country?”
“Dumitru, have patience and I will tell you. Get beside me.”
I don’t know what it was. Brothers, I got beside the angel. He showed me all of California. He showed me all the cities of California. Then he showed me Las Vegas.
“You see what I have shown you? This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn.”
He said, “It’s sin has reached the Holy One.”
He showed me another great city. He said, “Do you know what city this is?”
I said, “No.”
He said, “This is New York City. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn.”
He showed me Florida. He said, “This is Florida. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn.”
He didn’t let me say a word until he brought me back to the place we had left. He said, “Now, Dumitru, you can ask me questions.”
He said, “I brought you to this country. Dumitru, I want to wake up a lot of people. I love this country. I love the people. I want to save them. America will burn.”
I said, “How can I save them? I can’t even speak their language? Who knows me here? How will they call me?”
He said, “Don’t worry. I will be ahead of you. I will make great healings among the American people. You will go to television stations, radio stations and churches. Tell them everything I tell you. Don’t hide anything. If you try to hide anything I will punish you. America will burn.”
“How will America burn? It is so powerful.”
He said, “The Russian spies have discovered where the most powerful nuclear missiles are in America. It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace. Then there will be an internal revolution in America, started by the Communists. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans, Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries (which I cannot remember) will attack! The Russians will bombard the nuclear missile silos in America. America will burn.
I said, “What will you do with the church?”
He said, “The church has left me.”
I said, “How? Don’t you have people here?”
He said, “People in America honor people. The honor that should be given to God, they give to other people. Americans think highly of themselves. They say, ‘I serve God,’ but they don’t. In the church there is divorce, adultery, fornication, sodomy, abortion and all kinds of sin. Jesus Christ doesn’t live in sin. He lives in holiness. I brought you here so you could cry out loud. Don’t be afraid. I am with you. Tell them to stop sinning. God never stops forgiving. Tell them to repent. He will forgive them. Tell them to start preparing themselves so I can save them in the day of trouble.”
If you call me to speak, God loves you. That’s what the angel of God told me.
“Whoever I love, I want to wake. I will put on their hearts to call you. Don’t hide anything or I will punish you.”
Stop sinning and repent. He will forgive and we will have salvation.
I said, “How will you save the Church if America will burn?”
He said, “Tell them as I tell you. As he saved the three young men through the oven of fire, and Daniel from the mouth of the lion, that is how I will save them. Tell them to stop sinning and repent.
“I have blessed this country because of the Jews that are here. I have 7 million Jews here. They haven’t tasted war of persecution. God blessed them more than anyone else. Instead of thanking God, they started sinning and doing wickedly. Their sins have reached the Holy one. God will punish them with fire. Israel doesn’t recognize the Messiah, because they place their trust on the power of the Jews in America. When God will hit America, all the nations will be terrified.
“God will raise up China, Japan and many other nations and they will beat the Russians. They will push them back to the gates of Paris. There they will make a peace treaty, but they will make the Russians their leader. All the nations with the Russians as their leader go against Israel. It’s not that they want to. God makes them.
Israel doesn’t have the help of the Jews in America anymore. In their terror, when they see what is coming, they will call upon the Messiah. The Messiah will come to help Israel. Then the church of God will meet Him in the clouds (1 Thes.4:16).
Are you ready to meet Jesus Christ? Are your wedding clothes clean? If there are still spots on the clothes of your soul, then the blood of Jesus Christ still has power to cleanse sins. Jesus Christ will live with the Church on the Mount of Olives. He himself will fight against the nations.
I said, “If you are the angel of God, everything you tell me has to be written in the Bible. If it is not, then I can’t tell the Americans.”
“Tell them to read Jeremiah 51:8-15. He names it ‘The Mystery Babylon, The Great Adulteress.’ Also, Revelation Chapter 18, the entire chapter. There it says clearly what will happen to America.”
Why did he name it, “The Mystery Babylon”?
“Tell them because all the nations of the world immigrated into America and America accepted them. America accepted Buddha, the devil church, the sodomite church, the Mormon church and all kinds of wickedness. America was a Christian nation. Instead of stopping them, they went after their gods. Because of this, He named them “The Mystery Babylon.”
So you know that truly I have been sent by God, tomorrow at 9:00 am, someone will come to give you a bed. At 10:30 someone will come to pay your rent. At noon, someone will bring you a car and give you a bucket of honey.”
Brothers, it happened as the angel had said. At 9:00 someone rang my doorbell and said, “I brought you a bed. I could not sleep all night long. God told me that you were from Romania and that you need a bed.” At 10:30 someone else rang my doorbell and handed me a check for $500 and said, “God told me to bring you $500.” At noon, someone came and gave [me] a car and a bucket of honey!
You might say, “Why? We trust in God! We have God on our side! On our dollar bill it has ‘In God we trust.’ How are our lives? We go after the foreign gods. The American church has adultery, fornication, sodomy, divorce and abortion. If we repent with all of our hearts and call Jesus to help us, we will stop sinning. We know that when Jesus comes we will meet him in the clouds.
The angel also said, “Before the internal problems begin in America, your country (Romania) will have a revolution (fulfilled December 22, 1989).
(Dumitru told me about the revolution in March of 1988 over a year before it occurred.)
Related:
(video) Dumitru Duduman: Wake Up America
[2-hour audio] Henry Gruver with Steve Quayle: Visions of War – Visions of Heaven
[mp3 audio] Henry Gruver’s Vision of America being invaded by Russia
[47-minute audio] Henry Gruver: Russian Invasion of America
The WW3 Prophecies (includes prophecies by others)
RED DAWN: ASIAN MILITARY INVASION OF USA? (prophecies by many others)
Skousen: U.S. Intentionally Vulnerable to Nuclear Attack from China/Russia
Skousen: Analysis of Strategic Threats in the Current Decade
12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture
All 100+ of my Joel Skousen posts (10 posts per page; latest appear first)
Nate Torres
If Duduman was a true prophet, what on earth was he doing getting support from The Prophecy Club? These are some of the worst prophetic swindlers. They have made very many mistakes. God would not allow a true prophet to live among falsies. A true prophet would have spoken out against them. Sorry, you sincere followers of Duduman, but he was not the real thing. Whatever unique visions he was having, they were either made up, or the product of a deranged mind, or rather evil spiritual visitations. We are to test the spirits, and Duduman said a lot that may have been provocative but nonetheless empty. Don’t follow Duduman’s teachings, nor those of his translator, instead follow Christ who is the greatest prophet. Lots are trying to steal Christ’s thunder, but they are merely thieves that sneak in and rob. Remember the Lord said they would try and deceive even the elect if that were possible. Don’t get you name erased from the Book of Life for stupid reasons such as this. Trust in the blood and in Christ’s righteousness. We have no righteousness of our own that can save us.
Jeff Fenske
It’s amazing to me how some “Christians” can be so mean spirited and accusatory without giving any facts to back up what they say.
The Prophecy Club has had some serious problems, some of which I experienced firsthand; however, there have been many Godly men who have been able to get the word out through this ministry which I greatly loved in the ’90s.
And the speakers didn’t get rich off of the speaking tours. I know some personally, including one who hadn’t even gotten paid. And Dumitru probably didn’t get even one cent from the many video tapes that the Prophecy Club sold of his testimony.
In fact, Dumitru would have rather stayed in Europe because of all the hate and flack he got for telling the truth about what is coming. There are a lot of haters who call themselves ‘Christians’ who actually James-3 curse those whom God has sent. I know this firsthand too, and write about it in this blog.
I thank God for what I learned through the wonderful Prophecy Club speakers that I was able to watch and listen to. I have every single video of theirs from the ’90s. Most are awesome! I was so sad to see the Prophecy Club wane, because we still really need a ministry like this. Had they continued to do well there is a good possibility that the end of America could have been postponed.
I have never heard anything about Dumitru that would lead me to believe his word can’t be trusted. The above comment feels like pure slander from a very angry man, as well as a willful rejection of prophecy in general.
1 Thess. 5 doesn’t just say to test all things. It also says: “Don’t quench the Spirit. Don’t despise prophesies.” I think there is a lot of despising prophesies and prophetic people whom God sent to warn us, to the point that now it’s too late to reverse what is coming:
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
God sent Dumitru and many others, but most ‘churches’ wouldn’t even let him and the others speak. Most ‘churches’ have rejected the prophetic and prophets, and now we’re going to get judged; though, God can greatly bless us if we truly repent, and get right with God and people, according to God’s standards, not man’s.
It’s not in vogue for pastors and ‘Christians’ to confess their sins one to another so they can be healed. But the only way we’re going to have revival is to get right with anyone we’ve hurt. From: My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
I got this for a church leader in Anchorage, 20 years ago. It says a lot about what needs to happen for real Christianity and full revival to occur. And this is also a salvation issue: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
This is the prophecy that inspired my license plate:
Aug, 9,1990
“Our eyes are full of sawdust. We can’t see clearly to see the kingdom. There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to feel his hurt deeply and say kind words of salve that heal their souls.
[___] can do this. This is vital. They are necessary. For he must do this for healing to occur. He is a man of integrity in many ways.
Fear must decrease. Love must increase. He will fight and he will win the battle over the stronghold of fear and unforgiveness, sayeth the Lord.”
May we be ‘ONE’ with each other in Him!!!!!!! Then the world will know (John 17)!
jeff
Jeff
This is not prohpecy in the least. This is commone sense. What Christian could possibly argue that we have replaced God with celebrities, material items (idols), feel good but empty churches and self worship? Come on, yes America is morrally corrupt and yes we have replaced God with the aforementioned.
The Jews in America have replaced the need for Jews in Israel to accept Christ. The Jews control our media, our government and our military. This provides them with a false sense of security; however, slowly God is putting leaders in place that are working to undermine the Jews and leave Israel vulnerable.
Yes also it is commone sense that America is on the frontier of a revolution. The Government has bankrupt our futures and now they want to take away our rights. Once the good life ends, and it will soon, the country will implode into one of the worst civil wars ever to hit the planet. The UN fearing for the safety of our nukes will ban together under Russia, who knows where we store our nukes, and attack our nuclear facilities. They will fear that a group hostile to their nations will sieze those nukes and launch them. The US does this to revolutionary countries like Lybia, Iraq and now Syria that we fear so why would countries like Russia not do it to us. Again, common sense would lead you to see that other nations would then turn on any US allies, including Israel, that also have nukes for fear of reprisal.
Finally, yes, in the end and faced with possible destruction, the Jews in Israel will call out to Christ when faced with nothing to loose and everything to gain.
This is not prophetic but as surely as the storms clouds gather and the lightening begins to strike we can conclude a storm is about to hit.
Jeff Fenske
Why are people so eager to despise prophecies? If the church would have listened to the prophets we would have had revival long ago, and could have postponed the end of America. Now, it’s coming full speed ahead.
This was not ‘common sense’ in the mid-’80s, almost 30 years ago, when Dumitru got his crystal clear visions from God, after having been tortured for Christ in Romania.
http://www.handofhelp.com/about_dumitru.php
Many will blame God, but He warned us. Most pastors shut their ears, not willing to hear the word of the Lord. Most pastors have turned people away from those whom God gave words — thinking the Republicans would save us — Skull and Bonesman/Bohemian Grovers like the Bushes, for example — whom the pastors wouldn’t research as to what they are really up to.
Anonymous
I think the problem with your logic above is you are so inclined to harvest the few reasonable, or perhaps, defensible teachings or “revelations” while continuing to minimize the heresy that passes for truth amongst your heroes. Jeff, you are as blind as a bat and you lack judgement and discernment. Perhaps your lack of personal achievement or settled life comes from your unruly spirit…cherry-picking from unqualified sources while completely ignoring the reckless heresy or in-congruence of the bulk of your mentors’ teachings. A bit of honest candor on your part would help you realize that for all your self-absorbed vision-casting, I can’t find a single instance in your writings of ever personally leading anyone to Christ or simply making a point of regularly encouraging anyone in the non-TV-internet world to be saved. Even your vision about saving homosexuals by simply smiling at them in kindness you have failed to do. Perhaps you should consider that your life is built around an improper view of your own logic–resulting in the complete inability to see how ingrown and inbred your thinking is. You need to take inventory of your life and ask yourself if arrogant ignorance is not your prevailing quality.
Jeff Fenske
Joshua,
You’re referring to The Homosexuals Will Arise, which is not a vision, but a portion of my Let Us Be ONE prophecy.
The goal of my ONEcanhappen blog, and the main goal of my life is to help get ‘ONE’ happening — “that the world will know” — Jesus said in John 17.
Currently, most ‘Christians’ aren’t going-to-heaven Christians, regardless of how many notches they have on their conversion guns, signifying how many people they got ‘saved.’
Only the overcomers will be saved. Jesus wants disciples, not converts. Most who have become born-again are living in willful sin, mainly because of the once-saved-always-saved heresy that is destroying America.
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” – Mt. 7:21
Most ‘Christians’ are currently in a place of having their names “removed from the Book of Life”:
“And to the angel of the assembly in Sardis write: “He who has the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars says these things: “I know your works, that you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. Wake up, and keep the things that remain, which you were about to throw away, for I have found no works of yours perfected before my God. Remember therefore how you have received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If therefore you won’t watch, I will come as a thief, and you won’t know what hour I will come upon you. Nevertheless you have a few names in Sardis that did not defile their garments. They will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. He who overcomes will be arrayed in white garments, and I will in no way blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. – Rev. 3:1-5
Real Christians do what they’re led by God to do:
“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.” – Romans 8:14
The Homosexuals Will Arise won’t mostly happen until ‘ONE’ happens, which is just real Christianity at a group level. When the world knows, because Jesus said He’d give us His glory, which they will see, then many of the homosexuals will become Christians. Now, they mostly smell a rat, because most ‘Christians’ aren’t real Christians, unwilling to even smile and love homosexuals, Muslims — and even love other Christians.
“By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” – John 13:35
We must overcome — which means having totally clear consciences so there is no condemnation now, and especially when we see Jesus face to face.
“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.” – Romans 8:1
jeff
Anonymous
You may have noticed that it has been over a year since I’ve written on your page. What you aren’t aware of is that I’ve been one of the 157 remaining in Iraq when the US had to leave the country. During that year, I’ve done some incredible soul searching amidst the constant attacks or threats, and I’ve discovered that there are some people like yourself you are self-deluded, who are in need of true repentance. I’ve cried out to God for confirmation of your visions and God has nothing to say about you. Rather, He continues to orchestrate my life to bring me into contact with balanced people who humbly seek the Savior and lead others to do the same. As I stated above, which you failed to acknowledge, is that you don’t have a single example of bringing anyone to Christ…not a single one. I’ve met literally dozens upon dozens of Christian men in my 2 1/2 decades on the road who would make time to call out to God on someone’s behalf…you are a sham compared to any of them. Your faith is a phony web-based screed where you can avoid real responsibility and hide behind one pseudo-prophet after another. If, indeed, you are a visionary, I believe God would hear your prayer to confirm your visions in my heart. As it is, you make no attempt because, I believe deep in your heart, you know God is not endorsing you. So, I don’t doubt the Holy Spirit…I doubt YOU. You have nothing of real merit with which to persuade anyone that God actually speaks to you…He doesn’t seem to be willing to acknowledge you in my prayers, nor does the fruit of your life demonstrate His endorsement of your self-deluded thinking. It’s important to seek God and ask Him authenticate your message.
weather
There’s alot confirming Dumitru’s prophecies at qwakeup.org….
Jeff Fenske
Thanks, I’ll put up a link to them above!
luis
America will pay yes, but not because it stopped helping the jews, but because it always supported them in destroying our christian civilization; not only that, the US waged war on the world, bullying everyone, exported all evil agendas of eugenics, depopulation; communism is talmudism, the US financed russia for decades and financed all communist revolutions, in russia, china, cuba, cambodje, north korea, etc..from New York !! Say thanks to jacob schiff & Co. !!! This ‘dud’ man just reverses everything..it’s obvious he knows someone from the elites, since he knows what is gonna happen. Russia is the biblical ‘gog’ while china is ‘magog’, but have this in mind: freemasonry all over the world is united and it is them who control governments, therefore what you see in terms of international politics is a big threatre acting for public consumtion, a bit like it happens internally with democrats and republicans !!! The US will indeed pay a huge price for all it’s sins, for corrupting the entire world with the talmudic babylon financial system..it has been jews who always promoted ‘usury’, not christians !! Revelations 18 refers to the destruction of New York, the city surrounded by many waters and the global economic collapse !!!
luis
Plus my friends, RAPTURE will only happen on Judgement Day, never before. Everyone will have to endure tribulations according to the words of Jesus; otherwise why making the days shorter for the sake of the elect? Why saying that we have to persevere till the end if one was gonna be rapture? Whoever invented this rapture fallacy wasn’t feeling good in the head, because it is not biblical, it doesn’tmake any sense. The special mark of the true elects arethose whoendure suffering with courage and patience, not the ones who want to desperately and fearfully escape from it !! No apostle avoided suffering, they embraced it as a mark of a good Jesus follower !! Think about it !! Jesus asked us to carry our cross, not to discerd it when danger is ahead. That is cowadice !!1
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Eckbach
The “Jews” are NOT Israel! Israel rejected the Old Covenant, not the New Covenant! That’s why they were 99% gone from the Levant by 700 BC. Thus Hebrews 8:7-10
“For if that Old Covenant had been faultless (ie it was faulted/defective) then should no (topos) have been sought for the second.” That is…where they were–the multitude of nations of Genesis 49:19 and the “company of nations” of Genesis 35 etc.
“Give no heed to Jewish fables that turn from the truth.” Titus 1:14
Jeff Fenske
Eckbach,
Paul shows clearly that God isn’t done with the true Jews.
Romans 11
The Ingrafting of the Gentiles
11I ask then, did they stumble that they might fall? May it never be! But by their fall salvation has come to the Gentiles, to provoke them to jealousy. 12Now if their fall is the riches of the world, and their loss the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fullness? 13For I speak to you who are Gentiles. Since then as I am an apostle to Gentiles, I glorify my ministry; 14if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh, and may save some of them. 15For if the rejection of them is the reconciling of the world, what would their acceptance be, but life from the dead? 16If the first fruit is holy, so is the lump. If the root is holy, so are the branches.
17But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them, and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree; 18don’t boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, “Branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.” 20True; by their unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by your faith. Don’t be conceited, but fear; 21for if God didn’t spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22See then the goodness and severity of God. Toward those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23They also, if they don’t continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24For if you were cut out of that which is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more will these, which are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
All Israel Shall Be Saved
25For I don’t desire you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you won’t be wise in your own conceits, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in,
26and so all Israel will be saved. Even as it is written, “There will come out of Zion the Deliverer, and he will turn away ungodliness from Jacob.
27This is my covenant to them, when I will take away their sins.”
28Concerning the Good News, they are enemies for your sake. But concerning the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sake. 29For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30For as you in time past were disobedient to God, but now have obtained mercy by their disobedience, 31even so these also have now been disobedient, that by the mercy shown to you they may also obtain mercy. 32For God has shut up all to disobedience, that he might have mercy on all.
Jeff
John
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT God spared the elect from tribulation. Look at Noas Ark, He saved them from the flood, the remnant was saved. He does not put his elect through Judgment, it’s not His nature to do so. SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF Christ, Not put through His wrath and then caught up. And remember Nobody but almighty majestic pure , unblemished , righteous, all knowing, and all powerfully God knows when the time of His coming will happen. PERIOD.
Jeff Fenske
John,
Notice that in Dumitru’s dream/vision, the true followers of Christ didn’t get taken out until the very end of the tribulation.
The pre-tribulation rapture was pushed by Cyrus Scofield, a con-man. Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye (“Left Behind”) and TV evangelists have made the pre-trib rapture popular. People like to believe they’ll be ‘gone on the first flight,’ which has helped put the church to sleep spiritually. It’s a popular doctrine, but is not biblically sound.
“For The TIME WILL COME when THEY WILL NOT LISTEN to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves TEACHERS AFTER THEIR OWN LUSTS; and will TURN AWAY THEIR EARS FROM THE TRUTH, and turn aside to *FABLES*” (2 Tim. 4:3-4)
Instead, it looks like many Christians in the USA will lose their heads once the tribulation starts — those who have survived Russia and China’s attack on America, which will likely include no electrical power for a year, after the grid is taken down from an EMP, which hardly anyone is blowing the whistle on how vulnerable America now is.
Amazingly and sadly, the ‘Christian’ Zionists are excited about helping the Talmudists rebuild the third temple, which will be an abomination from which the Antichrist will be launched (2 Thess. 2). They think they’re going to get raptured out, but most aren’t even abiding in Christ so they would be taken out even if there was a pre-trib rapture.
We’re supposed to ‘make our election sure,’ which is only the focus of few today.
I believe the Holy Spirit wants us to focus on holiness to get real Christianity happening at the group level, “that the world will know” – Jesus’ desire and prayer in John 17. The third great awakening has been prophesied for a century. It’s time we draw near to God so He’ll draw near to us — so when we go through this thing we’ll be in Christ together!
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s too late to reverse what’s been done for my men have been rejected … Now is the time to overcome and get right with all … Your heart will swell with love and it will be easy to remain in Me when others are on the boat with you”
And ‘no one knows the day or the hour,’ but the Holy Spirit will definitely tell show us many things regarding the timing of all of this. Experts, like Joel Skousen, can also tell us when Russia/China will be ready to successfully invade the USA.
Jeff
thirdheaventraveler
Jeff, Repent now! You are adding to God’s word and preaching a different gospel. Read Galatians 1:9. Yes, that’s talking to you! Stop promoting these fake frauds like Dumintru. His vision does not line up with scripture. There are many flaws. God does notvrequire the body of Christ to wash their robes white in this dispensation. This is heretical Lordship salvation. God would never tell someone the church has left him if it is in this current dispensation. Go read John 17. Go read 1 Corinthians 12:12; Ephesians 2:19-22, etc. God is not going to desyroy Israel’s enemies as we are raptured. America is not mystery Babylon.
Jeff Fenske
thirdheaven…,
You say:
“God does notvrequire the body of Christ to wash their robes white….”
Really? We must overcome to not have our names removed from the Book of Life, as dozens of New Testament verses support.
Jesus specifically says in Revelation 3:
1 “And to the angel of the assembly in Sardis write: He who has the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars says these things: “I know your works, that you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. 2 Wake up, and keep the things that remain, which you were about to throw away, for I have found no works of yours perfected before…God. 3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If therefore you won’t watch, I will come as a thief, and you won’t know what hour I will come upon you. 4 Nevertheless you have a few names in Sardis that did not defile their garments. They will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who overcomes will be arrayed in white garments, and I will in no way blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
“Once saved, always saved” is a doctrine of demons and a “different gospel,” and is currently deceiving almost the entire church because most people refuse to study what the Bible really says about who goes to heaven.
I have:
“Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT”
Jeff