David Hogan: Faith to Raise the Dead

Ron,
Upon what are you basing your accusations against David Hogan?
And do you believe that miracles still happen and should happen today?
Jeff Fenske

Dear everyone,
I don’t know much about Todd, but I’ve been interested in David Hogan ever since I first heard about him from a fellow seminary student almost 20 years ago. Since then, I’ve listened to and watched dozens of his messages, including hearing his wife speak, and I think they’re the normal ones.
Mark 16:14-18:
Afterward he was revealed to the eleven themselves as they sat at the table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they didn’t believe those who had seen him after he had risen. He said to them, “Go into all the world, and preach the Good News to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who disbelieves will be condemned. THESE SIGNS WILL ACCOMPANY THOSE WHO BELIEVE: IN MY NAME THEY WILL CAST OUT DEMONS; THEY WILL SPEAK WITH NEW LANGUAGES; THEY WILL TAKE UP SERPENTS; AND IF THEY DRINK ANY DEADLY THING, IT WILL IN NO WAY HURT THEM; THEY WILL LAY HANDS ON THE SICK, AND THEY WILL RECOVER.”
We’re still stuck in the USA not even able to love our brother and sister Americans as much as ourselves, let alone our brothers and sisters overseas: the Iraqis, Palestinians, Iranians, Africans, the Central and South Americans and etc.. Most ‘Christian’ Americans don’t even care if we ever hear news about what is really going on with these people. Out of sight out of mind. This is so sad. We’ve turned into a black hole. God won’t bless us as a people until we get our act together.
In Anchorage, church leaders who’ve hurt people won’t even fully get right with those they’ve hurt, so we can have real Christianity at a group level.
Sunday ‘worship’ is a joke if the people raising their hands towards God aren’t right with their brothers and sisters. Miracles won’t happen until love happens, vertically and horizontally. Leaders may act like everything is okay, but God won’t bless what we do until He’s in charge and our hearts are right. We must be submitted to Him no matter what the cost. Are we ready? Will we fulfill what God called us to do and be?
David had a vision or dream about where he and his wife should minister. They went precisely where God said to go, and have risked their lives many times to minister to the Aztecs, Mexicans and Central Americans.
As far as I can tell, David is the real thing and we’re just lightweights until we get over our junk and become ONE with each other and God. Then signs and wonders will be the norm for us too.
[For the record, I never did finish seminary training. Seminaries are currently black holes that attempt to suck the life out of students until everyone is pretty much spiritually dead. There is a lot of hate and anger and James-3 cursing going on. And they are in serious doctrinal error as well, and don’t want to admit it. But I had a dream about the seminary I attended that gives me GREAT HOPE for its future. I would love to finish my masters degree there someday. The first time I attended was actually a blast, because it was during the tail end of the Vineyard holiness revival. But when I returned a few years later, it was one of the darkest places on the Earth. I think doctrine is the main problem, and one of the reasons I’m doing this site is to be a think-tank to help figure out what is real Christianity. Then if I am able to someday re-attend seminary, perhaps after real revival starts maybe in Alaska, and then we get into the inevitable discussions with students or professors about doctrine, I can tell them where to look on this site to see the theological basis. I really do believe that someday, true missionaries like David Hogan will be invited to speak to the students and faculty at seminary. This is how it should be.]
David’s ‘Freedom Ministry’ is at: http://www.freedom-ministries.us.
Freeeeeeeeeeeee———-dom!!!!!!!!
Jeff Fenske : )

I’d like to take a shot at this.
Too many throw out the baby with the bathwater. I don’t know if what Philip says above is true or not, for I don’t know David personally, and haven’t looked into his recent work at all.
I first heard of David when I attended seminary the first time, about 20 years ago, from a student friend, who loaned me a cassette tape message by David. For a number of years after that, I listened to and watched everything I could find about what David was doing and why God moved through their team so mightily.
I consider David Hogan to be a pioneer in many ways, and I think there is much that can be learned from him. We are supposed to be doing the works of Jesus with signs and wonders following. If this isn’t happening, we’re not being Biblical in this way—or perhaps, even Biblical in our goals—to be like Christ, Who said “greater works than these you shall do,” and “these signs will follow those who believe….”
Smith Wigglesworth said: “God wants daring men, men who will dare all, men who will be strong in Him and dare to do exploits” [Faith That Prevails, p. 12]. David Hogan is such a man. Are we?
I personally do know Daniel Rodes, who oozes with character, he and his wife Esther, both. Daniel has a lot of respect for David, and he’s experienced some of the same type of miracles as one of the rare daring men in our midst today. I’ve appreciated greatly the time I’ve been able to hang out with Daniel, trying to learn as much as possible so we can be Christlike in this way, someday too.
There is a lot we can learn from David, “For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.” We need to learn how to walk like Jesus walked so the Holy Spirit can move mountains through us—mountains that are evident to the world—as a testimony to Christ, so God can get MAXIMUM glory, so people’s hearts will be glad! But how do we walk in that anointing and not lose it, like so many have?
Why do revivals usually stop after a certain time? Because the wineskins don’t stay new and supple? We have to walk within the parameters of God for He’ll only give grace to the humble. But why do people and groups of people who were once in the move, why do they lose it? And I’m not referring to anyone specifically, now. But revivals always seem to happen only so long and then there are years of desert.
I don’t think God wants to ever pull the anointing from individuals or groups of people. He wants to move, miraculously blessing people through us, but He has to pull His glory if we don’t abide in the Vine sufficiently enough. And it’s so hard right now because it doesn’t look like any group is really getting it right. Worship isn’t really happening. Love isn’t really happening. So we’re split up, isolated, having certain strengths and weaknesses that aren’t complemented by those with differing gifts. And it’s so hard to do it alone.
It’s never meant to be this way. We’re supposed to be ONE body under Christ, the Head—many members, each doing their part. But there is so much jealousy, unforgiveness, unrighteousness, not really getting right with those who’ve been hurt, etc.. Lots of lipservice, but no substance, for God looks at the heart. “I’m okay; you’re okay.”
It looks hopeless. The hate and division continues on and on and on. And ‘worship’ services are dead.
I think things are going to change rapidly now that America is tanking. Our cushy life is over. Soon, we’ll really need God and each other just to get by from day to day. And when we draw near to God He’ll draw near to us. For if revival stops or doesn’t get going, it’s because we’re not drawing near to God enough.
David did it. He didn’t let the lukewarm church keep him from starting a work in the exact place where God gave him a dream to go. And then he fasted and prayed and obeyed and stepped out of the boat many hundreds of times, leading a great move that deeply touched and inspired many! There is no doubt. Praise God for Debby and David Hogan!!! God bless them!!!!!!!
Now if what Philip (above) says is true, let’s encourage David and Debby by our love for them, appreciating the good that has been done. And let’s walk with Christ and each other so closely that they’ll hear what is happening here and be encouraged, and maybe even want to visit again [David was in Alaska, my home, awhile ago] to be a part of what is happening here—because we’ve lit the flame—”FIRE”!!!
I long for the body of Christ to be ONE, and I bet that David does too. And he knows that most American “Christians” really are sissies, regardless of how spiritual they say they are. Most are filthy, actually, and on the road to hell. See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way.
This site is all about how can be ONE (Jesus heart-cry for us in John 17), and how we can stay ONE. In my opinion, the biggest reason revivals don’t continue, and that ONE doesn’t continue is because of doctrines of demons that have been accepted almost universally by the church today. And many of these doctrines are those I’m addressing.
Number one, the chief false doctrine that has poisoned American Christianity is that it’s hard to lose one’s salvation. My hope was that revival (ONE) could happen before America went down, because if only people would read what the Bible really says about who goes to heaven, about being led by the Spirit instead of old covenant tithing, that we can’t wish evil on others and still be “sons of God,” etc..
We must walk in love. There is now no way around it. The grey areas will diminish. There will be light and dark. We can’t let ourselves fall into disgrace. We must rise to the occasion. No excuses.
And we need each other. It’s so hard to walk alone. And if we do find spiritual success as individuals, it’s more easy to get prideful. We need the body to balance each other out—all under Christ.
Let’s be ONE, no excuses any more, forgiving even our worst enemies from our entire hearts (even the bottom), fully wishing all well, repenting for any hate that remains deep within—praying in tongues (everyone can and should) also, which also greatly helps us and others walk demon free. Freedom! Demons hate tongues and they originate also the idea that it’s only for a select few. I have to write an article explaining this sometime.
Let us walk in love. And may we have full appreciation for the pioneers, learning from what they have done. If there is bathwater, God is dealing with them about this, and He’ll pull His anointing.
May we appreciate and learn from those who have gone before, and may we all be ONE together—in Christ, walking tall, full of love.
Unfortunately, it’s not an option anymore. The only way to soar during the coming Depression is to walk in love, in Him, ONE with each other.
Freedom!
David and Debby’s ministry is called “Freedom Ministries,” by the way.
Jeff Fenske : )
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