Mike Bickle's (IHOP) prophetic dream: "What is coming is so much more intense than we imagine." "We must experience manifestation of His majesty that makes us tremble and His kindness that moves us to repentance and servanthood." "We will receive angelic assistance and great power…"

Jan,
This is sad what you are doing to Mike Bickle on this site and at least one other. This is so wrong. Don’t you fear God? Don’t you realize we will be judged for what we say about others? Why aren’t you more careful? You are taking the most extreme examples and trying to get people to throw out the baby with the bathwater. And you don’t even see the baby, oh critical one.
You give this very serious charge, attributing what the Holy Spirit is saying to Mike as being coming from a demon, instead. This could be flat out blasphemy:

“Mike Bickle is a false prophet deceiving millions of unsuspecting people. He, along with Rick Joyner and Bob Jones are channeling dreams and visions from demonic forces.”

I don’t know what is going on with Bob Jones, these days. And I haven’t been keeping track anymore what is going on with Rick Joyner either; though, I did for many years, hoping I could learn something, because I really liked his book, The Final Quest.
I haven’t brought this up before on my site, that I’m aware of, but I suppose now is a good time.
One of the deceptions in these last days is the total disregard by some about what Paul said about women preaching and teaching in 1 Timothy 2:

9 In the same way, that women also adorn themselves in decent clothing, with modesty and propriety; not just with braided hair, gold, pearls, or expensive clothing; 10 but (which becomes women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let a woman learn in quietness with all subjection. 12 But I don’t permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 Adam wasn’t deceived, but the woman, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience; 15 but she will be saved through her childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and sanctification with sobriety.

Mike Bickle has pretty much totally ignored this clear teaching. And Rick Joyner has too much also; though, as I said, I haven’t followed his ministry lately. And perhaps you have too, unless you aren’t a woman like your name would indicate, for you are certainly exercising authority over men, here, big time!
I don’t have any trouble receiving spiritual advice from a women, but you are way over the top, woman. And what you are pushing here is mostly deception.
God made men and women significantly different. Both are perfectly and wonderfully made. Both are geniuses in their own right. Men are designed to be able to do certain things much more successfully than women, AND women are designed by God to be able to do certain things much more successfully than men.
And Paul gives two specific reasons why women aren’t supposed to teach spiritual things or exercise authority over a man.
Adam was formed first. He was given certain attributes and characteristics from which to oversee the Garden. Eve was then formed as a helpmate for Adam, with complementary characteristics that wouldn’t compete with her mate. She was to help him from a different set of strengths and abilities — and weaknesses.
Men are also weak in areas women are strong and wiser in — but this isn’t in spiritual leadership — though women can have significant spiritual incite. Women are awesome! Men are awesome! We’re to appreciate each other, not replace each other.
Men can focus analytically more so than women. Some women are more analytical than some men, but those men are probably not called to church leadership. Only some are; though many jump in — many, controlled by their wives or other women — and then we have this mess — an upside down church.
Unforgiving, angry, unable-to-rest-in-God women are pushing for power, praying against (James-3 cursing) even their own husbands, in many cases, unless they tow the line — their line.
We have upside down families and upside down churches. And the men are in many cases so weak from willfully lusting that they’re just abdicating. They’re not seeking God. Most aren’t qualified to lead. And then the demonic floodgates come pouring in. There is no balance. Women aren’t designed to lead. They’re out of their calling and outside of their covering. Instead of helping the men who are called by God to lead, they will only do so with serious strings. Those who are in leadership today have usually succumbed to female power over them, someway, somehow.
We’ll never have unity this way, which you would probably call New Age (you criticize the name of my website), but it’s Jesus’ heart that we all would be ONE (John 17). “Then the world will know.”
I’m being biblical. You’re off the charts, criticizing so harshly those who would dare question the pre-trib rapture, which you can’t prove from the Bible.
Paul said women are more easily deceived, like Eve was deceived by Satan, himself, while he said Adam wasn’t deceived. There is so much hate, and you seem to be full of it. How do you think you would be raptured even if there is one? The only thing I know absolutely for sure about the rapture is that only those who are on their way to heaven could possibly go if there is one. Perhaps you should read my Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way article, if you have ears to hear what the Bible really says.
And you talk about “LOGOS ALONE,” “not to be content with the sufficiency of the Logos….” My article is purely scriptural based, but I learned much of what I know by the Holy Spirit. Logos alone, sola scriptura is not a New Testament concept. In fact, it’s the opposite of what the Bible teaches, a doctrine of demons. It’s the opposite of what Jesus, Himself taught. You know the scriptures that teach this, right? There are many.
And you’re so down on people actually exhibiting outward expressions when they claim to be touched by God. Perhaps this is because you’ve never been touched by God in this way. How would you expect people to react when the joy of the Lord and or the power of the Lord fills them?
“Don’t be drunk with wine but be filled with the Holy Spirit.” Oh, but that can’t be an actual feeling. Come on! Look at what happened at Pentecost. People thought they were drunk with wine but they were filled with the Holy Spirit.
You have the right to be as non-filled with the Holy Spirit as you’d personally like to be, but going around to other sites and harshly criticizing those who think and have experienced otherwise is just clearly unbiblical and not of the Spirit.
And you talk about the old wineskins as being the ‘enemy.’ I have never heard them called “the enemy;” though, old wineskins cannot hold the new wine without bursting. And it sounds like you don’t even want the wine, Himself, to fill and lead you. What is up? Why are you so angry, so vindictive?
There is one thing you said that I’m totally unfamiliar with. You say that Mike says the church will “execute judgment during the Tribulation.” I really have never heard of this during my 35 years as a Christian. But being that just about everything you accuse Mike of here is an exaggeration, I wonder what he really teaches regarding this.
And as for citing “Father” Malachi Martin as a spiritual authority, you may want to read this: Bursting the Malachi Martin Bubble and read my “The Catholic Deception” posts.
Having said all of this, I would like to say that I really appreciate and like Mike Bickle as a brother and leader in the body of Christ. I always have. He’s a spearhead, pioneer, sometimes-going-to-far kind of a guy. I have a much different personality. I too often don’t go far enough.
Their ministry, right now, has mixture, and I’ve pointed out some of the bathwater, while I really appreciate the baby, and will in no way throw it out.
I believe that was is happening right now at IHOP is very valuable in order for God to finally be Lord of our lives, so we can be the body of Christ the way they were in the book of Acts, the way we are supposed to be — instead of lone rangers like you.
I have and will again point out problems at IHOP that I really believe are hindering the work of Christ. Allen Hood’s once-saved-always-saved doctrine is the biggest problem that I see, and it’s probably not just held by Allen; though, most of the ‘church’ in America teaches the same or similar.
I really don’t like the telling God what to do during prayer and during ‘worship’ thing, either. And so often ‘worship’ isn’t really worship. The “bless me, Lord” songs mainly started in the Vineyard movement and continue today.
I’ve written about these thing on my site, and I’ve encouraged those who get it right, like Jaye, Ryan and Laura; though the pressure seems so strong to keep straight on worship from happening often. I think this is largely because of sin in the camp. Willful sinners don’t feel comfortable in truly worshiping God directly. In fact, this is one of the reasons why I think there are those like yourself who prefer hymns, which usually don’t worship God directly like we are to love the Lord our God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength — the greatest commandment.
Anyone can sings songs about God, but to directly worship God: “You are awesome; You are holy; You are mighty; You are perfect in beauty and wisdom and majesty” — only is the desire of those who are serious about doing the greatest two commandments, which includes loving Mike Bickle as much as we love ourselves, Jan.
What’s up? Why are you so mean spirited? Where is the love? Yuck. 1 Cor. 13:1 comes to mind. Yikes! Perhaps you should find your true calling. This isn’t it. You just slandered a really good guy who is trying to do the right thing, and is succeeding more a lot more than most.
Where is the love, Jan? Christians will be known for their love.
I should also say, before closing, that I really like Wes Hall at IHOP also. He is leading a call to purity that is so rare in this day. There is a reason why the move of God (demons in your estimation) happened in his class. He’s a good guy.
Jan, “why don’t you leave us alone,” I think I’m supposed to say. Deal with your issues; forgive those who hurt you; learn how to walk in love. And then, someday, please come back and say you’re sorry. You really should. This was not of God, and you made some very serious accusations here that even border on blasphemy, in my opinion. Perhaps you should find a different calling. Your own salvation may depend on it.
I love IHOP and Mike Bickle and Wes Hall and the real worshipers, and maybe someday you will too.
Selah.
Jeff Fenske

You didn’t just call Mike’s dreams occultic, which is bad enough, blasphemous enough, but you said: “those still in the occultic IHOP.” You called IHOP occultic.
As to you being called a Saul. I wouldn’t do that. I don’t call people names. But you are still living in the old covenant, and calling people occultic who live in the new.
And I don’t think “the Sauls” will ever be eradicated from the earth. When ‘ONE’ happens (John 17, Eph. 4, Acts), the outspokenly anti-Holy-Spirit “Sauls” will probably not even dare to enter such a group because of what Mike says in this vision.
And by the way, you still are just totally ignoring the scriptures I cite, as if they don’t exist. You have a canon within the Canon. And you have that right, but then you push your views on others, claiming that you’re biblical.
Amazing.

Jan,
First, IHOP isn’t my church; though, I agree with much of what they do. I live in Alaska. I’m mainly interested in the good they are doing. And I like to watch in order to see what can be done, so that I can more fully understand how what God wants to fully do can happen.
As to Kevin Reeves’ book, he is just doing what so many have, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I’m not interested. I’ve been following this overall movement for decades. I know what’s going on. I have the discernment of spirits. I can sort through the mixture. I’ve seen it all before. And at IHOP, most of it is good. They’ve learned a lot from the mistakes of those in the past, but I still get disappointed when I see things they’re doing that is keeping the move from being great.
The main problem isn’t what you say. The number one problem in the ‘church,’ charismatic and not, is the salvation doctrine. That’s where the weirdness comes in, and that’s why the Third Great Awakening hasn’t happened yet.
I’m looking at the big picture, not the small problems that are exaggerated by those who don’t really understand what is going on, making a mountain out of a molehill.
We can’t have unity without holiness, and it’s likely that we’re not going to have sufficient holiness until we get our salvation doctrine figured out. It’s too easy to sin these days, sexually, etc., and if people think they can do these things and still go to heaven most will just keep doing them.
That’s what they’re finding at IHOP. The pull of the world is just too strong.
But there is one other way that full revival will come, and that’s if we’re brought to our knees by the disasters that are now facing us, because the church hasn’t been salt and light: The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? Most evangelicals even support the reverse-Christian wars. I haven’t heard one peep in the IHOP prayer room for repentance over supporting these immoral wars — all of the people who didn’t do anything to us who we slaughtered. And most evangelicals refuse to look into what really happened on 9/11. Most are not really truth seekers, so the republicans use them.
There is one other key thing that is curiously missing from the IHOP revival: a call for people to get right with those they’ve hurt, so they can be clean. This was the main theme of the Asbury revival: Asbury Revival, 1970: “Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?”
IHOP expects revival without brother to brother repentance, getting right with those they’ve hurt. I don’t see how IHOP can miss this unless a key person there hasn’t done this, and I don’t think it’s Mike or Wes.
But this isn’t just an IHOP problem, it’s probably true of every church in America, charismatic or not.
And Francis Frangipane has meant well, trying to get church leaders in towns to meet together and get along. But most of these church leaders are the main problem in the church. They keep the old false doctrines alive that keep the revival from happening. And many of these church leaders pray against (James-3 curse) those who are supposed to be leading.
And then there are the women who run many of them, largely through James-3 cursing ‘prayers’ and conditional love. None of these people who curse people can go to heaven, biblically. These key problems simply aren’t being addressed in ‘churches.’ And many even still teach old covenant tithing.
As for Mike’s terminology that you say is similar to new age terminology, it could be the other way around. Maybe the Devil is copying and twisting what Christians are called to do, making good terms sound bad. Like now, we even have to be careful how we use the word ‘gay,’ which is a good word.
The main thing is to find out what we’re called to do, biblically, as well as what the Holy Spirit is calling us to do (which will never contradict the written Word of God).
The goal is to line up with the Bible and the Holy Spirit, and if some of what we do is similar to what some new age people are doing then maybe some of the new age people are on to something right too.
I actually find a lot more love coming from many of the new agers than from many of the ‘Christians.’ And many of them see the lack of love in the ‘church,’ especially when it comes to supporting the new world order’s wars, which the ‘church’ is even sometimes driving.
Who would Jesus bomb – eh?
And many homosexuals are actually closer to the kingdom than many Christians: The Homosexuals Will Arise. So many ‘Christians’ point the finger at the homosexuals when the ‘Christians’ are the main cause for the fall of America. The “Christians'” sin is a stench to God: the hate, lust, pride, lying, lack of submission to God while pointing the finger at those who have more love than they do.
The ‘church’ is disgusting! And all these people who criticize moves of the Holy Spirit where people are getting right with God are so off base, having these big planks in their eyes, which disqualifies them from being able to see clearly to take the specks out of their neighbors’ eyes.
America is going down. And the lack of holiness and rightness with God and their neighbors is the main reason. And I believe the number one reason for the fall of the church is unbiblical doctrine that is pushed across this nation, from the pulpits, on the radio and on TV. These leaders are in big trouble with God.
I’m offering $1,500 to anyone who can refute my Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way post. No one can, while what is taught across America has been refuted by many — the doctrine of demons that has put the ‘church’ to sleep — “positive, encouraging K-LOVE!”
Until we’re willing to look at what the Bible really says and listen to what the Holy Spirit is really saying, I don’t think we’re going to have full revival unless we lose our freedom and our lifestyles in this country, which is probably right around the corner. When people lose their computers and TVs and food and jobs, I think then people will probably really seek God too. But we shouldn’t have to lose everything in order for real Christianity to happen.
Real Christianity is doing the greatest two commandments, literally. Being born-again is just the start. Jesus said:

John 15:4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can’t bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If a man doesn’t remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

That’s where most of the ‘church’ will end up unless we get serious about the numerous warning passages in the New Testament which preachers are totally ignoring, including those at IHOP.
This is serious. Everything else pales in comparison. You’re just beating a dead horse. This has all been debated years ago.
I’m actually excited that Mike, Wes, and the many great people at IHOP are people of integrity that are finally putting the anti-charismatics to shame – those who resist the Spirit. The scoffers never did have biblical grounds, and now they can’t character assassinate either. Mike and Wes are just too clean, as far as I can tell. Though there may be others who aren’t. And they may actually be those holding back the move, holding back real worship and real repentance. Though if they had biblical salvation doctrine, the move probably would have already fully happened.
The Devil hates when people learn the truth. He works hard to make sure that people oppose what is true and those who teach truth. I have hardly anyone helping me; though, I believe the truth on this site is a gold mine. Whoever runs with it will have real revival.
I think that IHOP + the truth that is on this site = real, full revival.
What are we waiting for, ‘church?’ Let’s be the church — where God dwells without measure — not having to hold back, stay away because of willful sins!
Let Us Be ONE!
To God, be the glory! May we abide in Him, literally. “Then the world will know.”
Jeff Fenske