All 100 of my Who Goes To Heaven posts
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(No arguments here.) Yes– God has given us the formula for who among those He has called into faith in Christ will actually be saved… And Jeff finds fault with Calvinism (Hmmm?). I guess one can believe that God sovereignly chooses and redeems those He has chosen (ala the Calvinistic interpretation of Biblical salvation) or you can believe that you have to do everything according to the law, once in Christ, in order to make yourself worthy of God’s redemption. The latter sounds like a repudiation of the completeness of Christ’s salvific work on the cross to me. That sounds like grace plus works to ensure that you have salvation– as if God’s promise and the finished work of Christ are insufficient to bring the believer to glory.
Jeff Fenske
If someone were to read the above comment without having read what I’ve posted they could totally get the wrong idea.
I have never ever promoted doing anything “according to the law.”
In the new covenant, the law wasn’t replaced with nothing, as the grace changers often say: “grace + nothing.” Jesus and the New Testament writers show how the law was superseded with the Greatest Two Commandments — loving the Lord, our God, with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength, and loving our neighbors as ourselves.
The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?
Jesus showed these examples and more in Matthew 5. Jesus upped the ante. Now we have to be clean internally. If we won’t hate we won’t kill. If we won’t lust in our heart we won’t commit adultery externally — and now we need to be clean from adultery internally, by what we think, not just by what we do.
Jesus called us to be disciples, not converts who prayed a prayer and believe they are going to heaven. For example: John 3:16 Means What?? 3:21,36 show that ‘BELIEVE’ means OBEY — “He who DOES the TRUTH comes to the light, that HIS WORKS may be REVEALED, that they have been DONE IN GOD.”
A “Christian” is a follower of Christ. When we abide in Him we are safe, Jesus shows in John 15. Christ’s “it is finished” work on the cross won’t do us any good if we willfully disobey and become prodigal sons and daughters. “Apart from Me you can do nothing.” Jesus said we must abide in Him, or we’ll be thrown into the fire and burned. We can only rightfully call ourselves Christians if we are following Him.
I mainly let the Scripture speak for itself in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way |
Who are the Children of God?, where the latter part shows who are the children of God, biblically. Praying a prayer, being born-again is just the start of our lifelong walk in God.
Paul said “work out your salvation through fear and trembling.” And that’s exactly what he did:
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
We can forfeit our birthright (Hebrews 12) where our names will be removed from the Book of Life (Rev. 3:1-6) — unless we obey Christ.
Paul didn’t say the whole law is fulfilled by saying a prayer. That’s the start of our walk by the Spirit, our life in the Son. Galatians 5:
14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, be careful that you don’t consume one another. 16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Only when we are led by the Spirit, resting in God, finding our home in Him, keeping ourselves safe — only then are we not under the law — for then we will fulfill the law — because we didn’t hate and lust and lie have bitter envy in our hearts, etc..
The Bible says the Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth, and the Holy Spirit will never disagree with what Jesus and the Gospel writers showed us to do.
We can trust the Bible, but it’s amazing that many profess absolute belief in the scriptures, but then they won’t make sure of what the New Testament specifically says about who goes to heaven and who are the children of God. We all owe it to ourselves to make sure of what the Bible really says.
This shows that this is a demonic deception. There are spiritual forces that push people away from studying what is most important. Once-saved-always-saved is a doctrine of demons, originated by and enforced by demons, familiar spirits.
Joe Schimmel shows in this video how the grace changers have turned grace of God from being the enablement by the Holy Spirit to overcome sin into a license to sin. “Do what thou wilt” is what Satan told Eve, and it’s the main Satanist theme phrase. And now it is adopted by the grace changers.
And now “do what thou wilt” has all but destroyed America — and the ‘church’ is a laughing stock. Whereas Jesus prayed that we would become ONE with each other in Him, which He will give us His glory to accomplish. And then the world will know.
And we do this one by being one, getting right with those we’ve hurt, so we can rest, strong with each other in Him: [video] Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Are you willing to do what it takes so we can be safe, together in Christ Jesus, full of His glory — and so then the world will know?
Let us be ONE.
Jeff : )
Father of 5
These have been pretty dark days for my family and the nation as a whole, and you are providing a voice of assistance. I’m wondering if you could ask God what specifically He is holding against me, as I and my family are truly in darkness without clear guidance. I’ve literally researched thousands of writings including your webpage and am finding strong voices, but they are saying different things. For example, one of your prophets seems to believe that men doctors delivering babies or female general practicioners with male patients are engaging in a damnable sin. This is new…and deeply fearful information. I’ve also read recently (not on your website) that a Korean Christian church received open visions or revelations from the Lord about damnation for not properly observing the Sunday Sabbath. I think it’s time for men such as yourself and many others who prophesy, to seek God for one voice and unequivocal statements for these surprising things that are sending people to hell. I fear I am one of those people.
I’ve made a list for your reference of things I’ve discovered through prophets that are surprising sins:
1. Not tithing (Bill Wiese, Mary K. Baxter, 7 Columbian youth, IHOP, Sid Roth, et al…) [strong advocates]
2. Not honoring the Sabbath (some contend Saturday, others Sunday)
3. Mixed-gender medical exams of private parts (digestive tract, sexual organs, etc…) not of an emergency nature
4. Wearing jewelry/wedding rings (Daniel Rodes?)
5. Not wearing headcovering
6. Instrumental worship
7. Not supporting Israel’s claim to their God-given land (IHOP, Sid Roth, almost all charismatics and evangelicals)
These teachings and many others of individuals or groups such as IHOP, Sid Roth, Mary K. Baxter, Bill Wiese, 7 Colunbian youth, Daniel Rodes, et al…leave me still confused and without a voice from God. Right now, for some reason, God is speaking to you…yet you still include some of these other prophets in your canon theologicum. I want you to know that I AM LISTENING to you and others your website links to…I have children at stake, and the “prophets” can’t seem to get their stories straight. Your words and associations, confusing as they are, are having an impact…and not all good.
We out here in the desert of the world need a correct word, not just the latest breathless warning based on ad hoc word associations from the latest secular or Christian “prophet” with a YouTube video warning. We need your help out here…MY family needs your help. Please ask the Father that He may give me the Holy Spirit like you have…I need to hear from Him to know the truth of these things.
Respectfully
Jeff Fenske
Dear sir,
I applaud you again for doing extensive research. And I’m sorry that it’s confusing. Have you read my Let Us Be ONE prophesy. It puts some of these issues to rest, including the dress code. And Esther Rodes read the entire prophesy out loud to Daniel, by the way. And the only thing she questioned out loud to me was the idea that tithing doesn’t apply to us. But Daniel didn’t say anything, nor did he seem bothered by anything in it.
They were raised Mennonite. They don’t put a trip on anyone for not doing the head covering thing. My mom never felt inferior at all. They are so loving!!! They’ve made that choice to err on the side of caution. The main thing is for women to dress in ways that they don’t help men stumble. And the way Daniel’s wife and daughter dress is no doubt fulfilling that.
Yes, Daniel is convinced that most gynecolgists are major lusters. He knows human nature very well. I think he’s probably right.
I don’t know if Daniel still teaches tithing or not. I haven’t seen him in a few years now. But whether he does or not doesn’t affect what I believe about it. We need to just find out what is right and not be swayed by those who would try to mislead us.
In my opinion, I don’t think there is any possible way a person can honestly look at Russell Kelly’s work on tithing and conclude that it’s still Biblical. I was convinced long ago, and long before I saw his material. There just is no Biblical basis for it continuing. And according to Russell, it never was quite what they said it was anyway. But Russell is Baptist, and I’m not sure he believes in being led by the Spirit, so he and I probably part paths in what has replaced tithing. But he absolutely does totally disprove it.
Regarding the sabbath, that’s part of the law that Paul scolded the Galatians for — still wanting to be under the law.
And Daniel and I disagree on worship style, but he doesn’t insist on his way. I think if he actually heard electric guitar led real worship he’d know. Most worship isn’t really worship these days. It’s easy to fault the instrumentation when it’s really people’s hearts that are the problem. Daniel knows this, I think. He’s listened to some of my stuff that isn’t really his style.
I never heard Daniel ever talk about wearing a wedding ring a sin. I don’t think you understand Daniel.
Regarding these other people, I probably do disagree with all of them on one thing or another. But I know why I believe what I believe. Most of these issues are no big deal. But tithing is for most ministers. It’s usually a real detriment to being Spirit led. And it involves the love of money, the root of all evil. We need to get the money thing right. But it really is a no-brainer. They have zero post-Pentecost scripture. And Paul teaches to determine in our hearts what to give (or not to give). God doesn’t want us to finance willfully sinning leaders. That’s in the Let Us Be ONE prophecy.
Lust is also a huge issue. It’s in the Galatians “will not inherit the kingdom” list 3 times. It’s taking many people out. That is a big deal to Daniel, and it is to me too. I’ve spent much of this website devoted to helping us all overcome this seductive demonic plague.
I already told you that I can’t ask the Father to give you the Holy Spirit. That’s between you and Him. Are you praying in tongues? This may be your biggest key to breaking through. And if you avoid this you may not get out of your rut until perhaps the revival comes. Then worship will set many free.
I would suggest to major on the majors and minor on the minors. Make sure your heart is clean.
And pray in tongues a lot — until you get free! A lot of what we feel are demonic spirits people put on us to feel badly about not going their direction. Tongues will help set you free. That is in my prophecy too.
Freedom!
Jeff