Could it be that once-saved-always-saved
is at least partially searing church leaders’ consciences?
Is this why these grace changers won’t repent,
and won’t get right with those they’ve hurt,
believing their own lie —
a doctrine of demons?
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATaCt9IgwqA]CHUCK MISSLER EXPOSED Eternal Security Conscience Seared Liars
Uploaded by gospel4u2 on Aug 26, 2009
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/chuck_missler.htm Powerful and shocking expose of Chuck Missler, a very popular teacher of our dark day. Check the web site for much more info refuting the false gospel and counterfeit grace message of eternal security.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com
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This grace changing, false teacher at work,
saying the statement Corner addresses above,
and that the alternative to ES is to be under the law.
Hogwash:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_zEGJoE_Q]Eternal Security
Related:
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified
Lou
[Bravo, OneCanHappen. Wondering if you have seen “Chuck Missler – Copyist” on Google etc. Just spied this bit on the net – stunning!]
PRETRIB RAPTURE – HIDDEN FACTS !
How can the “rapture” be “imminent”? Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He is now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. (“The Rapture Question,” by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn’t dare to even list, in its scripture index, the too-hot-to-handle Acts 3:21!) Since Jesus must personally participate in the rapture, and since He can’t even leave heaven before the tribulation ends, the rapture therefore cannot take place before the end of the trib! Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who would be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the posttrib end of “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which is Israel’s posttrib resurrection!) If anyone wonders how long pretrib rapturism has been taught, he or she can Google “Pretrib Rapture Diehards.” Many are unaware that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this “rapture” was stretched forward and turned into a separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which the mass of evangelical scholars rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” [“gathering”] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!). Other Google articles throwing light on long-covered-up facts about the 180-year-old pretrib rapture view include “Famous Rapture Watchers,” “X-Raying Margaret,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Walvoord Melts Ice,” “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” – all by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (see Armageddon Books).
Robert Hillman
JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY and WE ARE SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION we have BEEN ADOPTED INTO THE KINGDOM
we are JOINT HEIRS WITH JESUS
ANYONE THAT THINKS THEY CAN LOSE THEIR SALVATION IS A LIAR AND MAKES GOD OUT TO BE A LIAR
HE SAVED US THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD
anyone that thinks we have to be GOOD ENOUGH is stupid because GOD SAVED US WHEN WE WERE YET SINNERS
you cant earn your salvation and YOU CAN DO NOTHING TO KEEP IT
JESUS KEEPS IT FOR US because HE PAID FOR ALL OF IT
JESUS IS GOD
Jeff Fenske
Robert,
Have you read my article: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Jeff
bronsonbradley
I think Missler has done a huge amount of work in making a lot of people take Biblical studies and the belief in Jesus Christ far more seriously, than many other preachers out there. He’s human though, I am sure you are not going to agree with everything he says, as with any other teacher, but he has definitely produced some good fruit and inspired countless others to discover Jesus Christ. Aspects of his theology may seem off to some, but I believe he directs viewers ultimately to the Saviour.
One thing Chuck Missler clearly outlines in nearly any of his talks, is that you shouldn’t take his word for it, but rather seek the truth out yourself. Always referring to Acts 17:11.
Beverly Stegall
….and if…IF you bothered to listen to the rest of his statement, which you intentionally cut off, was that YES he thought you could loose your salvation…IF IT WERE UP YO YOU!! However, he finished by saying PRAISE GOD it is not up to us …but to Him…Yeshua, God’s only Son!! If it were up to us, yes we would loose it…but since it is not & it is up to Father then….a resounding NO…we can not!!
Jeff Fenske
It is up to us. By God’s grace, His enablement, we must overcome, or else…:
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”
http://onecanhappen.com/2008/01/14/who-goes-to-heaven-scriptures
rede4futbl
Dr. Missler is an extremely intelligent man after God’s heart. He is making disciples everyday, and encourages individual study of the Bible to draw your own conclusions. To attack him for sharing the Gospel and the word and history of God is the work of satan. I pray that Christians will stop judging others and focus on spreading the good news. That is what Jesus calls each of us to do. God Bless.
Jeff Fenske
Chuck Missler is teaching another gospel. Many are going to hell, thinking they don’t have to abide in Christ, which is absolutely required.
Chuck misled many, including myself regarding Y2K. Who-goes-to-heaven is much more serious! He is clearly wrong, and his Dick Cheney-like personality is very persuasive.
It is absolutely biblical and right to name names:
Is It Right: To Judge, To Expose Error & To Name Names? — Those who are faithful in exposing error according to the Bible are now being widely denounced, and are accused of being unloving and unkind
Incidentally, Jesus said in Revelation 21 that all liars go to the lake of fire, hell:
He who sits on the throne said, “…all liars, their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
Chuck not only lied, but he laughs about how he lied….
Jeff