We don’t have to change the Bible to comply with TalmudVision’s anti-Christ propaganda lies. Viewer comments that I list below show the only logical way to read the biblical account is by concluding young earth, which intentionally suppressed, true science does support. Answers in Genesis shows in The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth:
The earth is only a few thousand years old. That’s a fact, plainly revealed in God’s Word. So we should expect to find plenty of evidence for its youth. And that’s what we find—in the earth’s geology, biology, paleontology, and even astronomy. …
Why Im Not Dogmatic on the Creation Account
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I am shocked by this. Dr. Brown, I have admired and respected your knowledge of God’s Word for years, but hearing you effectively say that the truth doesn’t matter and the Bible is not clear is just flabbergasting. I can’t believe you affirmed people’s misreading of 2 Peter 3:8, when you KNOW that verse has NOTHING to do with hermeneutic interpretation whatsoever.
The ONLY reason to accommodate millions of years into the Bible is to appease the opinions of 19th-century secular deists, who denied the global flood and wanted to discredit the Bible and God, and whose ideas reign as the predominant interpretation of secular academia to this day. There is NO Biblical reason to add millions of years to our interpretation. None. Even you yourself said basically, “Well, I’m not a scientist… scientists say the Bible is wrong… so let’s see if there’s another way the Bible can be read.” Sir, that is NOT how we treat God’s Word and you know this!
Which came first, Dr. Brown? Death or sin? If you believe secular academia, there were countless generations of death before Adam ever sinned. God created predatory behavior, thorns, cancer and other diseases, a world full of fear and suffering and death…. and He called it “very good” millions of years before Adam ever even arrived. This is what an old-earth view forces you to believe. Death before sin is a heresy. This is NOT a trivial issue.
“We put the genealogies aside for a moment,” 1:50 Therein lies the problem. Scholars “putting aside” context while also stating they consider context while forming their ambiguous conclusion. Im afraid Dr. Brown is succumbing to the “want to be liked” syndrome.
“For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” — Romans 1:20
Old Earth creationists say mankind did not arrive until billions of years after the creation.
Paul said they were there at the beginning of creation.
“God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.” While Yom can mean more than one day in other contexts, it also means one 24 hour period. Here in the creation account, Yom, very clearly is referring to a 24 hour period. There was evening “lylah” and morning “boquer” , one day “yom ehad”. Does he need to count the seconds out to be more clear here? And you pointed out Exodus 20 as well. Could Yom have a meaning of a thousand years there? Perhaps a million or billion years? If God created the heavens and the Earth in 6, thousand year periods. Than were the Isrealites to have 6000 years of non stop work, only to rest in the seventh millenia? I am no scientist as well, but I do not see how the scriptures allow for any other interpretation for creation, than six literal days. They don’t even hint at an old Earth and all old Earth conjecture seems to derive from those trying to fit secular scientific conclusions into the Bible by reinterpreting the scripture. On the other hand I think it might be better to reinterpret the scientific data and see if alternative conclusions can be found there.
If you believe in an old earth then you have to believe that death came into the world before Adam and Eve sinned, which is contrary to scripture. I believe God’s Word. The earth is about 6000 yrs old. But remember, God created everything already mature and serving its purpose, from the stars to the animals, which makes accurately dating the age of the earth impossible using scientific methods.
I just had this conversation with someone at our church this morning… even if you would like to use the 1 day=1000 years position the most it could amount to is 6000 years then for creation… I am of the 6 x 24 hour days opinion because in order for God’s absolute incredible design of plants/animals to function together they had to have come into existence at about the same time. I don’t believe it is a salvation issue I however just find it sad for the reason it seems some Christians don’t see the Greatness and Power of Elohim and resort to reasoning which makes more sense to our minds…
They are 7 literal days. How do we know this? Because the Bible says just as God worked for 6 days on creation and rested on the 7th, so shall the Israelites work for 6 days and rest on the 7th (Sabbath). They understood that to mean 6 literal days to work and rest on 7th. If each day was thousands or millions of years, that commandment wouldn’t make any sense.
A bit disappointed with this stance of yours. Isn’t it clear enough to you by now that mainstream scientific consensus just like mainstream media consensus can’t be trusted. Try and be a bit more curious and dig a little more into the scientific evidence young earth creationists like Answers in Genesis and Creation.com provide and you should see there is no reason to double-minded about which stance is supported better by facts and scripture.
“From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.”
— Jesus, quoted in Mark 10:6
Old Earth creationists say mankind did not arrive until billions of years after the creation.
Jesus said they were there at the beginning of creation.
Mount St. Helens: Explosive Evidence for Young Earth Creation
What You Aren’t Being Told About Astronomy – Vol. I (Our Created Solar System)
What You Aren’t Being Told About Astronomy – Vol. II (Our Created Stars and Galaxies)
Such a shame … No wonder our faith is in shambles.
Even the early church fathers knew it was a 24 hour day AND the phrase “day is like a thousands years” was prophetic that God would complete all things in 6,000 years and the “7th day” is the last 1,000 years we see in Revelation, which is the “rest” in which we Christians look forward to, the “rest” that Paul refers to in Hebrews 3 & 4 when he references and quotes Psalm 95.
Barnabas (AD. 100?) “’And God made in six days the works of His hands, and made an end on the seventh day, and rested on it, and sanctified it.’ Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, ‘He finished in six days.’ This implieth that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifieth, saying, ‘Behold, today will be as a thousand years.’ Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. ‘And He rested on the seventh day.’ This meaneth: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day.”11
Irenaeus: (AD. 120-202) “[He gives this] as a summing up of the whole of that apostasy which has taken place during six thousand years. 13 “For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: ‘Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested upon the seventh day from all His works.’ This is an account of the things formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the sixth thousandth year … the whole apostasy of six thousand years, and unrighteousness, and wickedness, and false prophecy, and deception; for which things’ sake a cataclysm of fire shall also come [upon the earth].”14 “These are [to take place] in the times of the kingdom, that is, upon the seventh day, which has been sanctified, in which God rested from all the works which He created, which is the true Sabbath of the righteous, which they shall not be engaged in any earthly occupation; but shall have a table at hand prepared for them by God, supplying them with all sorts of dishes.”15
Hippolytus:16 (AD. 170-236) “And six thousand years must needs be accomplished, in order that the Sabbath may come, the rest, the holy day on which God rested from all His works. For the Sabbath is the type and emblem of the future kingdom of the saints, when they shall reign with Christ, when He comes from heaven, as John says in his Apocalypse. ‘For a day with the Lord is as a thousand years.’ Since, then, in six days God made all things, it follows that six thousand years must be fulfilled.”17
Commodianus: (AD. 240) “Adam was the first who fell, and that he might shun the precepts of God, Belial was his tempter by the lust of the palm tree. And he conferred on us also what he did, whether of good or of evil, as being the chief of all that was born from him; and thence we die by his means, as he himself, receding from the divine, became an outcast from the Word. We shall be immortal when six thousand years are accomplished.”19 “This has pleased Christ, that the dead should rise again, yea, with their bodies; and those, too, whom in this world the fire has burned [martyrs], when six thousand years are completed,… Those who are more worthy, and who are begotten of an illustrious stem, and the men of nobility under the conquered Antichrist, according to God’s command living again in the world for a thousand years, … They who make God of no account when the thousandth year is finished shall perish by fire, …”2
Cyprian: (AD. 200-258) “It is an ancient adversary and an old enemy with whom we wage our battle: six thousand years are now nearly completed since the devil first attacked man.22 All kinds of temptation, and arts, and snares for his overthrow, he has learned by the very practice of long years. If he finds Christ’s soldier unprepared, if unskilled, if not careful and watching with his whole heart; he circumvents him if ignorant, he deceives him incautious, he cheats him inexperienced. But if a man, keeping the Lord’s precepts, and bravely adhering to Christ, stands against him, he must needs be conquered, because Christ, whom that man confesses, is unconquered.”23
Methodius: (AD. 260-312) “For since in six days God made the heaven and the earth, and finished the whole world, and rested on the seventh day from all His works which He had made, and blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, so by a figure in the seventh month, when the fruits of the earth have been gathered in, we are commanded to keep the feast to the Lord, which signifies that, when this world shall be concluded in the seventh thousand years, when God shall have completed the world, He shall rejoice in us. … Then, when the appointed times shall have been accomplished, and God shall have ceased to form this creation, in the seventh month, the great resurrection-day, it is commanded that the Feast of our Tabernacles shall be celebrated to the Lord,25 of which the things said in Leviticus are symbols and figures.”26
Lactantius: (AD. 260-330) “Therefore let the philosophers, who enumerate thousands of ages from the beginning of the world, know that the six thousandth year is not yet completed, and that when this number is completed the consummation must take place, and the condition of human affairs be remodeled for the better … Therefore, since all the works of God were completed in six days, the world must continue in its present state through six ages, that is, six thousand years. … And again, since God, having finished His works, rested the seventh day and blessed it, at the end of the six thousandth year all wickedness must be abolished from the earth, and righteousness reign for a thousand years; and there must be tranquility and rest from the labors which the world now has long endured. … “For six thousand years have not yet been completed, and when this number shall be made up, then at length all evil will be taken away, that justice alone may reign.”29
Victorinus: (AD. 300?) “And in Matthew we read, that it is written Isaiah also and the rest of his colleagues broke the Sabbath — that that true and just Sabbath should be observed in the seventh millenary of years. Wherefore to those seven days the Lord attributed to each a thousand years; for thus went the warning: “In Thine eyes, O Lord, a thousand years are as one day.” Therefore in the eyes of the Lord each thousand of years is ordained, for I find that the Lord’s eyes are seven. Wherefore, as I have narrated, that true Sabbath will be in the seventh millenary of years, when Christ with His elect shall reign.”30
Just observed that those supporting Dr Brown’s position in actual comments are overwhelmingly less than those who oppose it yet those in support voted more in likes. My two cents: 1. Those who oppose are reluctant to thumb down Dr Brown like I was (full disclosure: I eventually thumbed down because of the importance of this topic) because we like him. 2. Those who support Dr Brown’s position on this matter are rather passive individuals (definitely on this important matter) who underline their penchant for the path of least resistance by thumbing up more than they comment to support their position. Another possible explanation is that they really don’t have much of an argument other than “let us kumbaya on this”.
Dr. I think you need deliverance from at least one “intellectual” type demon.
They cause people to intellectualize the meaning of Scripture, when it should be plain.
Sorry if you feel offense, I say that without offense.
Most, if not all Christians need house cleaning from demons to varying degrees.
They cloud discernment and espouse lies.
What they espouse often seems very real, because it usually fits in with our personal view and, or desires.