Transcribed by Jeff Fenske
Hurt people hurt people.
“Jesus says, ‘come to Me all you who are weary and need rest. Learn from Me. My burden is light.'”
“‘Shelley, you can do it. What does My Word say? Try again.’ I’d fall. ‘Get back up and try again, Shelley.’ I’d fall. ‘Get back up and try again.’ I’d fall, again. I fell a little bit less. I’d fall less. And I started walking TALL, like a CHAMPION!”
“For those of you who are viewing pornography right now, are you contributing to the destruction of human lives—little girls who always just wanted Dad to love them?“
“Confess your sins so you may be healed.”
He’s humbling us for GREATNESS. He wants to conform us into the image of His Son!”
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ddPHfYDkDE]Ex Porn Star’s Amazing Story
Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben shares the truth about porn
and her amazing story in Anaheim California in 2008.
Links to video source:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus…
http://www.myspace.com/shelleylubben
“That’s how rebellious I was. My mother … never spanked me. See, I never had any discipline as a child. So by the time I’m a teenager, I’m the teenager from hell. … That’s why I have so much compassion for teenagers nowadays. When they act like that, I’m not mad at them. Where are the parents? Where are the fathers of this world? …
Well, the pimp became my new father. … I just wanted a hug growing up. I just wanted to feel special, and the pimp made me feel very special.”
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Her daughter, Tiffany is in the audience.
“How many times God saved this ‘blessed assurance’ [from physical death]? I can’t even tell ya. Probably hundreds. … I used to think I was invincible. I found out later on in recovery it wasn’t me who was invincible. It was Somebody who was saving me—and sustaining me. Because, if it wasn’t for Jesus Christ I’d be in hell right now. I came close to death many, many times.”
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“For those of you who are viewing pornography right now, are you contributing to the destruction of human lives—little girls who always just wanted Dad to love them?“
“They are made for greater things than porn, and so are you.”
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When her husband-to-be (also in the audience) reached out to her with real love:
“He was a really nice guy. … I knew how black-hearted I was, and all the trauma. It was intense. It would hurt so bad that when someone got close to me I literally would have physical heart pain. ‘Oh…this guy’s showing me love. … Get out of here, get out of here, you’re bad for me, you’re bad.’ No, because you have that defense…. But the love…. He had Jesus in him.”
“That’s the big question in the sex industry… ‘where’s God?‘”
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Shelley went to a church:
“[The pastor] just looked at me out of all the people and just said: ‘Do you know there’s a champion inside of you?’ You have to understand I hated myself, and this guy just spoke life in me!“
“…either God’s going to heal me or I’m going to die. And for eight years, I battled the Devil for my life with the Word. … I’m totally healed from all the effects of the sex industry. I had horrible nightmares, constantly…. I stood on that Word until it became reality for me. I said, ‘no, this is what God says about me! … ‘You’re more than a conqueror through Christ! You can do all things through Christ!‘”
“Recovery…, ‘I’m no good at it. It’s really hard. I can’t do it.’ And God would say, ‘Shelley, you can do it. What does My Word say? Try again.’ I’d fall. ‘Get back up and try again, Shelley.’ I’d fall. ‘Get back up and try again.’ I’d fall, again. I fell a little bit less. I’d fall less. And I started walking tall, like a CHAMPION!“
“Jesus says, ‘come to Me all you who are weary and need rest. Learn from Me. My burden is light.'”
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“He’s everything to me. He helps me. He gives me power, boldness, to make me a bold witness — fills me with His Spirit!“
“…Daddy needs to keep me humble. … He’s humbling us for greatness. He wants to conform us into the image of His Son.”
“I don’t care what sin you’ve done. … The Word says: ‘confess your sins so you may be healed.’ ‘Pray for one another that you may be healed.'”
“Christ died to give you freedom. … He’s not here to beat you up. … In Galatians, it says, ‘you who are spiritual, gently restore the one who’s caught up in their trespasses.’ And it better be gentle! The Lord is the ‘Lord of gentleness.'”
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post-tribber
She still acts like a porn star. Her voice. Her clothes. Where is the New Creature in Christ? She just sounds like a bitter lady, blaming her parents. Her personality is scary. Drama queen. You can tell she LOVES being on stage.
Yeah, TV is nasty and corrupting, but to some more than others.
She is not taking responsibility for her own sin. And she’s too happy about it. She probably has breast implants, and she needs to get rid of them also. That’s what a new creature in Christ would do, not wear tight clothes to show them off.
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
Shelley has a passion for helping people get out of porn. Helping people can be fun, which she is good at doing. She knows her mission is important. Most guys and many ladies and especially young ones need to hear her message.
Is she a going-to-heaven Christian according to what the Bible really says about who goes to heaven? I don’t know. I want to help real Christianity happen so it will be more obvious to everyone what that is.
Regarding her implants, she’s talked about them, and said it was ‘stupid’ for her to do that. Why she doesn’t take them out? Maybe she has a reason not to.
I know she’s maybe not always safely in the kingdom, but she’s really, really trying to help people. I admire her for that. And given that she’s probably been fed once-saved-always-saved…. When the Third Great Awakening happens she’ll probably do even better.
Why are you so critical? She’s not pastoring. She’s sharing her testimony, helping people get free!
And I don’t think she’s sexually suggestive in her clothing or her actions, or I wouldn’t put these on my sites.
You say she’s bitter. I say she’s amazing, considering what she’s gone through. She has a lot of love in her heart, Mr. Post-Tribber. And I think she has a lot of the joy of the Lord too.
She cares about people, and she cares about herself too, which is awesome, because she probably hated herself big-time. I think she said so.
If she was strutting around trying to turn people on her videos wouldn’t be on my sites.
I see the love of Christ in action I think she’s doing really well and will probably do even better when we real revival happens and it will be so much clearer where the lines to not cross are.
jeff
post-tribber
This is religious theater. She’s got an audience because she’s got big boobs, long blond hair, and titilating details to share.
Imagine if Paul went around telling his story over and over in detail of how he helped to murder Stephen and all the details of how he hauled the Christians off to prison, how he watched them crying and bleeding and dieing.
I don’t care. This is just religious entertainment, shabby entertainment, but par for what’s going on today with people like Mr. Tattoo Kick them in the Face, and such.
People are so spiritually dead that they need something to stir up their emotions, even if it is sexually titilating, at least it’s SOMETHING.
Christians need to stop being dependent on emotions. We should be satisfied with truth. We are all going to die and this life is a test and a race set before us, and that’s enough excitement right there. We don’t need 24/7 prayer and praise and ex porn stars flouncing around cackling over her exploits. The Bible says we should be ashamed about what we did, not to be flaunting it.
The churches are just big theaters. People don’t care about each other. People don’t know God or care about God. It’s just like a big Moose Club with a new stage act every week.
post-tribber
I would be ashamed to go around and smearing my own father and blaming him that I turned into a porn star, just because he didn’t give me enough attention, or wahtever.
This woman is a spoiled, selfish baby. She is not cute, and her spirit is wicked. I personally don’t like her. She is not somebody I would want to be friends with. You can tell she is a big bundle of trouble, all wrapped up in a tight pink dress.
She was laughing about the wicked things she did as a kid. Yeah, real funny. Hilarious.
Jeff Fenske
Mr. Post-tribber,
You are so mean and uncompassionate, which is totally reverse-Christian.
You’re an attack dog. I’m really surprised at how you can only see bad when there is so much good.
No wonder why you want to leave America instead of helping it.
You say in comment #2 that “people don’t care about each other.” Do you?
jeff
Danielle
Fathers play probably the BIGGEST role in childrens lives of ANYONE on planet earth!! She is right. Have you ever heard ‘The Fathers Love’ by Pastor Wright?! http://www.beinhealth.com Many people, not just ex porn stars, have diseases coming out of a father being too busy, not protecting, or not nurturing.
Danielle
Though thank GOd we can find true, unconditional love in Father God in heaven.
Danielle
Though I do need to say she should NOT have nor did she need to mention five guys and go into details about her past life like that. Inquiring minds, especially INNOCENT minds of children or even adults who don’t do that stuff do NOT need to know. It just makes the mind wander. Also, now that I think on it, she didn’t really mention the sin issue, and seems she is sort of forgetting about the issue of repentance and sanctification and that process; which is important to know. Also, and I am not a mother with kids, but she seemed to be mocking stay at home mothers as if they were robots. Just some thoughts. But Praise God she is reaching out to those porn stars!!! Excellent!!! And to the guy beJews for low, what the bleep are you blaming Jews for and accusing of ‘getting over ourselves?” Rediculous statement. Jesus was Jewish. Most of his followers were Jewish. He celebrated Jewish Holidays.
Danielle
actually, she sort of did mention the sanctification issue, just did not mention the word. We all need sanctification, wether we need to repent of fear, accusation, slander, gossip, bitterness, self-hatred, envy and jealousy, etc…But seriously, who else to reach the porn industry than this woman who was saved from it?! Excellent. Also, maybe those dreams she was talking about are soul wounds from her past. Katie Souza”s ministry talks about that- expectedendministry.com Fascinating stuff. Bless her and I sure wish I had her energy.
Jeff Fenske
Danielle,
I agree, and have said in talking with Post-tribber that she could and should be more careful about some things.
There should be more fear of God in her thinking, being so careful to not even stumble one. Lust is totally a salvation issue: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? But how many pastors teach what Jesus and Paul clearly taught about lust?
And that’s why we have this lust epidemic in the ‘church.’
There needs to be a reassessment regarding what the bible really says about who goes to heaven. People would be so different if they only knew.
Jesus couldn’t have been more strong in how he said it in Matthew 5.
It’s amazing how greatly the ‘church’ has been deceived to think that was Jesus and Paul said (Gal. 5, etc.) doesn’t apply to them.
I think the term hubris applies to the American ‘church,’ overall. And the world knows it.
And one of the things driving lust in the ‘church’ is feeling badly for so much willful sin, people are looking even to unholy highs so they can feel good. Though it pleases the flesh it leaves born-again believers feeling even more condemnation because they’re willfully walking according to the flesh, against the Holy Spirit — the reverse of Romans 8:1b, which isn’t in the NIV.
12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.
Most ‘Christians’ are willfully giving themselves over to the dark side, to be cast into Hell, where the worm doesn’t die and the fire is never quenched.
…because most pastors don’t teach what the Bible really says. And they’re going to get an even stricter judgment. This is so serious, partysville in the ‘church.’
We need an overhaul of church doctrine so we can be free.
jeff
post-tribber
You seem to think that “caring” for people means being “nice.”
There are a lot of Satanists who are very “nice.”
Obama is very nice. One of the nicest people you will ever meet.
As I said before, if you really cared about the Jews you’d tell them to get over themselves and get saved, because otherwise they are going to Hell. The Bible says faithful are the wounds of a friend, and remember Judas kissed Jesus on the cheek to identify him.
It’s all surface stuff, just theater, just outward appearance. We’re supposed to be concerned with what is true and genuine and real.
It’s the difference between a McDonald’s hamburger, which tastes great, it’s instant food, it’s cheap, but it’s not real food, it has no nourishment, it is full of preservatives, you could frame it and hang it on your wall. It is made from the meat of downer dairy cattle who have been tortured to death, milked to death while standing in manure up to their knees. Just because it’s all packaged nice under the Golden Arches and you get a little plastic toy with it, does not change the ugliness that lies beneath it, that that hamburger is responsible for the destruction of all the small farms and the concentration of food production in the hands of a few ruthless corporates.
Jesus spoke of whitewashed tombs full of dead men’s bones. Christians are not supposed to be deceived or enamored of the whitewashed tombs, and we are supposed to be wise as serpents about the dead men’s bones underneath and judge righteous judgment.
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
“Caring” means caring.
jeff
post-tribber
Does this woman care about her poor father who she has disgraced?
Does she care about all the men she stumbled into Hell?
Does she care that right now she is inciting lust with her cartoon fake breasts and the way she dresses and the lurid details she provides while laughing like it’s all so fun and wicked.
Jesus said we are to be pure in our minds, and that if you lust after a woman you have already committed adultery with her in your heart, good as done. This woman gets to go before Christian audiences and incite lust in the minds of Christian men and perhaps corrupt women to think, “That sounds like fun and doesn’t seem to have any lasting effects, or at least this woman seems to be getting away with what she did.”
She has not repented. She still dresses like a porn star, looks like a porn star, talks like a porn star, and thinks like a porn star. She is selfish and wicked and ungrateful. Her father bore her, supported her, and stuck with her, and she goes out in public and blames all her troubles on her father.
It’s disgraceful.
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
“I had parents that weren’t bad people, but they did neglect. My Dad was very busy working, and my mother was not a really experienced mom, and she really wasn’t a very affectionate mom. And neither of my parents really practiced Christianity.”
And all you hear is “Dad.” I wonder why that is.
Also, she’s speaking to both moms and dads, of whom probably a fairly large number are doing the same thing to their children. Shelley is warning them.
Shelley cares.
And I’m sure she cares about the people she led astray too. But she’s now in a position where she can warn people about the dark side of this evil industry.
I’m really careful about the videos and photos I put on these sites. I have rejected many. If I had thought the way she was dressed is provocative I would have not put it up. I have even written an article about modesty. I have had 0.00% problems in my thought life, watching her. I don’t see what you see that would be a turn on. She’s fully covered and there isn’t any form, except size, and we know that’s largely not real anyway. I don’t get it.
She probably thinks, like I think that she’s not wearing provocative dress. Could she do better to be extra sure? Yes, and she probably should. But you are so hypercritical that it’s really sad that you can’t see her heart.
Were you a neglectful dad or something?
jeff
Danielle
I do NOT know this lady, just happened to listen today. But you are extremely judgmental. Whenever we point fingers at someone, we always have THREE pointing back at ourselves. Please read 1 Cor. 11:27-34 and Romans 2:1 “Therefore, you are inexcusable oh man, whoever you are who judge another you condemn yourself: for you who judge practice the same things” As for her shirt, for goodness sake, what do you want her to wear, a cloth sak??
Danielle
Please read Romans 2:1. DId you listen to the entire message? She never disgraced her father in my opinion. Didyou know the lineage of Jesus came through Rahab the prostitue? Not a ticket to sin, we all need to repent, but everyone that is bashing this woman, you have three fingers pointing at yourself, which means more issues for you to work on in you. We are all sinners and all need to repent. I was never an ex porn star, but I could feel her pain and the pain of those working in it. Seriously, if they all had a father who protected them, nurtured them, listened to them, they would never have gotten involved in the industry. She did not seem to be blaming her parents, only telling the truth of the matter.
Jeff Fenske
Danielle,
I’ve tried really hard to not mark-as-SPAM anyone on this site (unless it was obvious total filth or regular SPAM), and I had succeeded up to this point and hereafter.
But Post-tribber made another comment that was so demeaning to Shelley that I marked it as SPAM, so you probably won’t get a response from him.
What he said shouldn’t even be thought, let alone written for others to contemplate.
Shelley is trying to be a ‘champion’ in Christ, and he’s looking at her way too much from Satan’s put-down perspective that is so reverse-Christian.
This protection thing just welled up in me. It was clear what to do. He clearly crossed the line, spewing thoughts from the dark side.
Thanks for standing up for Shelley.
Jeff
Danielle
Hi. I was not talking about your comment. I was discussing the post-tribbers comment. Too many comments, I got confused.
Jeff Fenske
Danielle,
I was aware of that. I was just trying to explain why you probably won’t hear a response from him, in case you thought you might.
jeff
post-tribber
The Bible says to honor our mother and father. I think to go on public stage and run your parents down and blame them because you ended up a porn star — I think that is cruel.
Are her parents dead? If not, that’s just wrong to do that. The Bible says to honor your mother and father that your days may be long.
If her parents are dead and if she has no brothers and sisters who are distressed by what she does in dissing the parents like this, then she needs to explain things in a different way, because the way she does it, it comes across as just a lame excuse to blame somebody else for what she did. If that is really the root cause of what she did, she could go into more detail and explain how she felt.
If this is the key, she should write a book, an anonymous book, to explain how her parents’ neglect caused her to become a porn star. I only watched the first episode, and my impression of her was not good. Is that her crusade, to get parents to not neglect their children? Or she has a ministry to porn stars? What is the point of what she says and does?
One thing comes across very plainly, which is that she is not sorry about anything she’s done, that she’s proud of it, and laughs it off as a joke. I’ve known people like that. They are not Christians, have not repented. They love to talk about their wicked sinful past, like we are supposed to be impressed as they are with their exploits.
If there were Muslim men and women, old or young, married or single, watching the video or sitting in the audience listening to her, what would they be thinking? Would they even want to fasten their eyes on her?
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
You only watched the first episode, 10 minutes, and you, the judge have tried her and found her totally guilty and of no earthly good. Incredible. There is something going on in you that is not pretty. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I didn’t notice that she did dishonor her father, and I not only watched this entire video but others as well. But it’s certainly obvious that you have dishonored her from the starting block. There is no doubt.
You can’t see clearly to see the kingdom, yourself, and yet you say she’s not a Christian.
Like I said in the other post:
First, get rid of the plank in your own eye so you can see clearly to remove the speck in your brother’s and sister’s eye.
Jesus (the red letters) in Matthew 7:
1 “Don’t judge, so that you won’t be judged. 2 For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but don’t consider the beam that is in your own eye? 4 Or how will you tell your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye;’ and behold, the beam is in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.
You have made it clear which of Paul’s two lists you are in.
Gal. 5:13-6:10
Jeff
Danielle
If there is something I learned from Pastor Henry Wrights ministry, it is this: whenever we accuse someone of something, we have the same issue, if not something sort of similar, that needs to be working on in our own life. Accusation comes from Satan, not Jesus. He is the accuser of the brethren. (Revelation) Blessings!
Danielle
that comment was for post tribber. ANd for his comment way below, the guy who slept with his mother in law in the Bible, didn’t he eventually Repent? The church refused fellowship with him, which is wrong if he REPENTED. (I recently heard Pastor Henry WRight teach on this, otherwise I would not have known) REpentance is the key!
post-tribber
Jeff, you gotta be kidding.
I saw enough in the first 10 minutes. I was not interested in the titillating details. I heard her laughing at her high school whoredoms and blaming her father and mother for what she did. I saw her standing there with her tight dress showing off her fake boobs, and I heard her loud scratchy voice and I said, I don’t need this, and it is not wholesome and it is not Christian.
Same with the guy with the tattoos that says “BAM” and kicks people in the face with his combat boots. How many hours do I have to listen to this guy before I am allowed to say, this guy is full of it?
I don’t need Shelly Lubbin to tell me how to live my life or what is true or not true. I can think for myself, and I can pick my own Bible teachers and other teachers. I’m not listening to her as an expert on anything. I don’t have to, and I’m not apologizing.
If you want to put her front and center on your web page, you might get some extra hits, but I don’t think you are doing your website any favors.
I’m not saying to go throw rocks at her or burn her at the stake. I’m saying she is not an example of Christianity, not somebody that should be put front and center (as you have done on your website) as an example of a Christian “leader,” and then to accuse people of not having the Holy Spirit or not being a real Christian if we don’t like her or don’t approve of her message or her attitude.
You are the one who is intolerant. You are intolerant of anybody who does not think Shelly Lubbin and Sid Roth are great Christian leaders, as you do. I don’t notice anybody else posting here, so maybe you should get something else on your website besides Sid Roth and a former porn star, because the world is going to Hell in a hand basket and all of us are probably less than a year away from being loaded on and shackeled up to the three-decker trains they got to take us all to Camp FEMA.
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
Camp FEMA is coming, and porn is one of the key ways they’ve destroyed the church.
Shelley is giving her testimony. She is not a church leader.
I think she is helping many people get free and to realize the kingdom of darkness behind this demonic plague. I wonder why you don’t care for them, or maybe you think everyone thinks evil thoughts about her like you do.
I need to do what I believe is right in my heart. And that’s why she’s on my site; though, not front and center in any special way, like you say.
I hope you can identify the demons in your heart and be free someday.
You’re like a black hole, sucking life from people. The greatest two commandments is what Christianity is. You’re into something else — “the watchdog from Satan.” In just 10 minutes, you know everything — and you not only throw out the baby with the bathwater for yourself, but you have to insist that everyone else do this also.
I hope you get free before it’s too late, seriously. I care.
jeff
PhileoTruth
I agree, post-tribber. I think Jeff is on Sid’s payroll. LOL. Kidding.
post-tribber
Another reason I didn’t listen to all of it (so narrow-mindedly) is because the written summaries you’ve put up kind of tell the story. Apparently it took this girl 8 years to stop being a porn star after she got saved (sort of saved).
So she was one of those Christian porn stars, right?
The Bible says we are not supposed to eat with people like that, to shun them, meaning people who say they are Christians but who aren’t holy.
Paul told the Corinthians to kick the guy out of the church who was fornicating with his mother-in-law.
If it takes somebody 8 years to stop being a porn star after getting saved, it shows something, and what it shows does not glorify God.
And I also see she has some kind of a 12 step thing going, which is not the same as Biblical Christianity. The message here is that, I used to be a porn star, and I still kind of am in my spirit and my attitude, but I’m not presently making movies, and I have a 12 step plan here to help people who are in the lifestyle and want out of it.
I fail to see how that glorifies God. If a Muslim person was perusing this website, do you think they would want to become a Christian? Or do you think they would be thanking Allah they were a Muslim.
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
It took her 8 years to get free from the memories, etc., after leaving.
She had to pray in tongues a lot and forgive a lot.
Doing these two things could help you get free from your demons too.
jeff
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
Plus she has an incredible husband who loved her no matter what.
It’s actually a great story.
jeff
post-tribber
Here is Dan Corner’s sermons page. They are arranged alphabetically, so if you go down you can find the one called PORNOGRAPHY.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/sermons.htm
You may have already listened to this sermon since you have material on your website from Dan Corner, and since you have featured Shelly Lubbin on your site I assume you also listened to Dan’s sermon on pornography.
But here’s the link for anybody else who might want to listen, in these last days when the world is populated with people whose “eyes are full of adultery.”
Thanks.
Jeff Fenske
Post-tribber,
Yes, I heard this many years ago. I think I have the cassette tape (1 of many).
jeff
post-tribber
Points in Dan’s sermon on porn:
Guard your soul or you will lose it.
The Word of God washes away the dirt. The Word is able to make us wise unto salvation. When we learn God’s Word, we put our priorities in order and take sin seriously and turn away from it. Sin is not a joke and neither is Hell.
Cut out secular music, destroy all porn materials. Turn off the TV which is a lust generator.
Lust — women need to dress modestly. TV teaches to teach seductively. If we love God, we must change lest we stumble another; men are to dress modestly also. A woman who dresses with the intent to get a man to lust after her body is no better than a prostitute, so far as God is concerned. Think about that. Make your change now. No Christian should go to the beach or public pool where people might lust after the body that is barely covered. To disregard this is to feed lustful thoughts and be used by devil to tempt people and lead them to Hell.
Don’t follow the crowd, and get your direction from the Bible.
1 Tim 2:9 — women dress modestly with decency and propriety.
Luke 17: 1-3 –Things that cause people to sin are bound to come but woe to those by whom they come, would be better to have a millstone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea, so watch yourselves, Jesus said to the disciples. If Jesus warned his own disciples, we need to be also warned. Sin takes people to Hell, and mental adultery can and will take people to Hell.
Letter: I’m married F, 23, w/ 3 kids, and my husband reads porn. I can’t stand it, and tell him he’s committing adultery, but he doesn’t care. He says he doesn’t know why he does it, and he says I’m doing the same thing and I’m not. I can’t handle it anymore.
Lust jeopardized the man’s marriage and his soul, hurts others. Lust is not a demon spirit, and to rebuke a “spirit of lust” is fruitless. Lst is of the sinful nature or flesh. Col. 3, 5:6, put to death what belongs to your earthly nature, evil desires and greed which is idolatry. Because of these the wrath of God is coming. We must crucify the sinful nature (per Rom. 8:5), those who live by the sinful nature have their minds set on what it desires, but those who live by the spirit are concerned by what it desires.
It all depends on what your mind is set on.
Rom. 13:14, clothe yourself with the Lord Jesus and DO NOT THINK about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature.
Our thought life is important, and we’re told what to think about and not to think about in the Bible. Resist the devil’s thoughts. Lust is not a demon. Get aggressive and fight against the sin, we are all in a war for our souls, and porn is one of the traps of the devil to take us to Hell.
Lust gives a foothold, mental adultery.
Eph 4:27, don’t give the devil a foothold, because then he will have a stronghold. Avoid the sin of mental adultery even if you have to shut TV off, put the mags down. Show yourself wise to be obedient and keep yourself pure in this defiling society.
James 1:27, Religion that God accepts as pure and faultless, look after widows and orphans and KEEP ONESELF FROM BEING POLLUTED BY THE WORLD.
Rev. 22:15 Outside are dogs, sexually immoral, murderers, idolaters and all liars. Sexually immoral is Greekporneo, and such will be outside New Jerusalem (Heaven) and instead will be in Hell.
Rev. 21:7,8 He who overcomes will inherit all this, but cowardly, sexually immoral, etc., will be in firey lake of burning sulfer, the second death.
Sexually immoral will spend eternity in torment. No sin is worth going to Hell over. Avoid porn like a rattlesnake.
Porn is not too great a problem for the Lord. God’s grace and power and the message of the Bible works, the Bible is true, the blood of Jesus has not lost its power. The greatest life to live is a life lived for God.
Hollywood stars kill themselves all the time, lack peace with God. Isaiah 57:21, there is no peace for the wicked and no person will have peace with God unless they sincerely repent. Turn from sin or perish.
Rom 5:1, Since we’ve been justified through faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
People are suicidal can have real joy and peace with a purpose to live in Jesus, and nobody is more worth giving our all for than Jesus. He died for us, will we live for him? It’s appointed unto men once to die and then the judgment, and none of us knows when that will be. James 4:14, Life is a vapor, and then we will be judged. Many people have died younger than we, and if have turned away from God we must come back and serve him faithfully.
Bible says that people won’t put up with sound doctrine and seek out teachers for their itching ears. Remedy is to find out what God wants and do it.
Luke 13:23, 24 Jesus said to make every effort to enter (heaven) by the narrow door — many will try to enter and won’t be able to. Will go where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 7:21 and other scriptures are also warnings. We must do the will of God.
We must do the word of God.
2 Tim. 3:16, All scripture is from God, useful in training in righteousness, so we can be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Anyone who believes the Bible has hope. If we will study it and obey it, we can get to Heaven.
Michelle
Your last post was nice post tribber . . .Porn destorys those whose loved ones are indulging in it. It hurts to the core . . . But yes, modesty is the key . . . especially when you want people to focus more on your words rather than your appearance. Just a bit of modesty goes a long way . ..
Donna
Thank-You Post-tribber for being honest. I am a Christian and my spirit felt very uncomfortable watching this. This is not from God.
Jeff Fenske
I think some people are freaking out because Shelley is talking about this subject in a church — which is just a building — probably in which are seated many guys who are addicted to porn and on their way to hell unless… — and they’re having a huge reality check when they hear the other side of this story — feeling pretty badly — which is good.
There may also be some little girls and ladies who are like, ‘wow!’ I don’t ever want to even think of doing this.
There are probably some dads thinking, “Hmmm, maybe I should be a better dad, so my daughter….”
Could Shelley have done better? I’ve said she could have. And I also think she did really well, considering….
jeff