Jesus prayed we'd be 'ONE' with each other in Him that the world will know! (John 17)

Category: Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church

Something Good is Going to Happen? Abbott Loop CC Cup — "Jesus is Lord." We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

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Watch this place: Abbott Loop Community Church, it’s now called. This is where I attended Bible school and had many great moments.
I also learned a lot of really hard lessons — “a torture chamber” — but better days ahead.

After attending there yesterday morning, I decided to put together this shot (with mostly Alaska wildflowers) —— for something really good may soon bloom!

I’ve been drinking out of these cups for decades, hoping…

May we be truly ONE in Christ — no messing around.

Those who have been hurt…
what about them?

Will love happen?

Will you humble yourselves
and admit…?

“Then the world will know…”
and see…

Jesus’ heart-cry in John 17 realized

ONEcanhappen when Jesus is Lord!

Life in the Son!

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I almost forgot: the cross and the wheat logo on the right cup
The idea comes from what Jesus said in John 12:

24 Most certainly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains by itself alone. But if it dies, it bears much fruit. 25 He who loves his life will lose it. He who hates his life in this world will keep it to eternal life. 26 If anyone serves me, let him follow me. Where I am, there will my servant also be. If anyone serves me, the Father will honor him.

Paul taught (and Frank taught in Bible school) Jesus is The Pattern in Php 2:

1 If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassion, 2 make my joy full, by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 3 doing nothing through rivalry or through conceit, but in humility, each counting others better than himself; 4 each of you not just looking to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also highly exalted him….

12 So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God who works in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.

14 Do all things without murmurings and disputes, 15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you are seen as lights in the world.

And in my logo at the top of the page is Galatians 5:22-24:

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

We must die in order to truly live!
Let’s do it! Let’s be million candlepower lights — our flesh crucified — like Him — Christians!
Jeff : )
Related:
Abbott Loop CC Cross: We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!
My “Let Us Be ONE” prophecy
The Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4
Prophecies for Abbott Loop CC (If you have a word for ALCC)

Sad :( A Pastor-Cursing-People Example Here in Anchorage, Alaska! | The Theology of James-3 Cursing

Wow! I’m so disappointed.

I just got back from a service this morning in which the pastor openly led the people to curse the abortionists during the pre-service prayer. [Actually, I went to Costco instead of sitting through the service. I just can’t stomach this.]

He prayed that they wouldn’t be able to sleep, and that God’s wrath would be on them — among other things. Yikes!

What about the ‘Christians’ who supported all of President Bush’s wars in which we killed many hundreds of thousands of innocent old folk, adults, children and embryos (women carrying children)? And many of these people won’t go to heaven like aborted fetuses will. Over 1 million people (made in God’s likeness) are dead in Iraq alone.

Which is the greater sin?

We did it in the name of Love, and it besmirched His name. I don’t hear any evangelical pastors leading prayers of repentance for that.

First, we take the plank out of our own eye. Then we’ll see clearly how to take the speck out of our neighbor’s eye. – Jesus

This is reverse-Christianity, you all: killing innocent people with bombs and bullets and wishing people dead with our prayers (James-3 curses). It’s God’s job to avenge, not ours. We’re to be examples of Love: “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” Whatever happened to WWJD — What Would Jesus Do?

This is sick, that ‘Christians’ think they can curse others who are made in Jesus’ likeness.

James 3 totally spells it out:

9 With it [our tongue] we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God. 10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water?

And if we read carefully, the deepest place of origin is not the tongue, but the heart (verse 14). And the source is demonic (verse 15). We need to have clean hearts, literally. Then we’ll have FREEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee————–dom!!!!!!!!!!
The only way I’ll ever possibly pray anything heavy on someone, I let God decide what to pray, by either praying in tongues for them or saying, Father, you deal with them according to what you determine is right.
It’s not for us to specifically pray (James-3 curse) in God’s wrath. James warns us to not do this!

Some will say it’s Biblical because David cursed those who were about to kill him. Well, there is zero support for this in the New Testament, which teaches a new and better way by which we draw near to God, Abba Father, now that we have the Holy Spirit inside of us. [And just because we have the Holy Spirit inside us doesn’t mean we’re going to heaven. See Rev. 3:1-5]

Consider Psalm 50. “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought I was just like you.”

16 But to the wicked God says, “What right do you have to declare my statutes, that you have taken my covenant on your lips,

17 since you hate instruction, and throw my words behind you?

18 When you saw a thief, you consented with him, and have participated with adulterers.

19 “You give your mouth to evil. Your tongue frames deceit.

20 You sit and speak against your brother. You slander your own mother’s son.

21 You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. I will rebuke you, and accuse you in front of your eyes.

22 “Now consider this, you who forget God, lest I tear you into pieces, and there be none to deliver. [Hell – editor]

23 Whoever offers the sacrifice of thanksgiving glorifies me, and prepares his way so that I will show God’s salvation to him.” For the Chief Musician. A Psalm by David, when Nathan the prophet came to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba.

Worship, not James-3 cursing prepares the way.
May we be holy. May the blood of no one be on our hands. May we be clean, and be right with all mankind.

We are not God. We live according to His rules. He calls the shots. “Those who are led by the Spirit are the sons and daughters of God.” “Those who are Christ’s have crucified their flesh.”

Again: First, we take the plank out of our own eyes. Then we’ll see clearly how to take the speck out of our neighbors’ eyes. The Holy Spirit will give us wisdom how to remove specks from others when we remove our planks, first. And cursing people are huge planks!!

Just think if we actually Biblically were salt and light. That we would be ONE, Jesus prayed. How would this put a dent in abortions? How many thousands of mothers would then be inspired to carry their children to full term — those who now are going into the clinics to terminate their child?

Com’ on people! Let’s love, love, love — and love some more — being c a r e f u l!

The Devil answers the cursing prayers, not God, and then the blood (or their sicknesses) are on our heads. May this never be.

“Don’t be overcome with evil, but overcome evil with good.”

Our goal is to be like Christ, to be ONE!

The greatest two commandments should be our focus, which means loving even those who would kill babies — which includes those who supported President Bush’s wars and refuse to repent (paragraph 4 above).

And the greatest commandment is to love the Lord, our God with all of our heart… — not cursing others from our hearts.

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They’ll know us by our love —
not by our James-3 curses,

Jeff Fenske

Related:

My ‘Christians’ Cursing People posts at ONEcanhappen

My People Cursing People posts at ToBeFree

God’s Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Prophecies for Abbott Loop CC

From: Abbott Loop Community Church

ALCC Prophecy


By ALCC – Posted on 07 June 2009
If you feel that the Lord has placed a message on your heart for ALCC, there are several ways to communicate that to the leadership.
You can e-mail it to prophetic@abbottloop.org or you can come to pre-service prayer at 9:15 a.m. on Sunday mornings and share it with one of the leaders there.

ALCC Reinstates Group Prayer? [short lived] | My Thoughts on the Worship Room Concept | Joyner’s Vision: "One of the Greatest Adventures of All Time!"

Update 7/24/23: Preservice group prayer never was fully reinstated at Abbott Loop, now called “Unite Church.” Josh’s tightly structured version didn’t last long, probably only months, and he stopped attending. Since then, there has either been just a handful praying, or no group prayer at all. There used to be hundreds!

UPDATE 2/24/09: When I wrote this, a number of months ago, I didn’t realize that Josh’s concept of prayer seems to be quite different from the let-it-rip style of before. It would be nice to have a combination of both relational and let-it-rip. And the more the better.

Freeeeeeeeeee——-dom!

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Dear holiness, revival hungry friends,

Josh Tanner, new head pastor of Abbott Loop Community Church in Anchorage, announced last week that pre-service prayer will be reinstated in the gym, 9:45 am. Service starts at 10:30.

I call this a milestone because I think this is one of the milestones that helped ALCC get freed up, able to in many ways overcome years ago, and now will again. And it’s great to see Josh have the vision for the need for corporate prayer! For my guess is that for many people, this is the only time they will pray in tongues. And since I have yet to knowingly meet someone who forgives everyone, everywhere from their entire heart 100% of the time, most people need to pray in tongues to get free from the tormentors (Mt. 18).

This is huge! Way more important than most Christians realize, partly because of the false doctrine taught that demons can’t influence Christians directly, which is one of the greatest deceptions Satan has largely pulled off. Most people have demons influencing their thoughts and emotions and affecting their bodies. This can be proven clinically and Biblically. Praying in tongues is one of the greatest ways to get free and to free others. From my “Let Us Be ONE” prophecy: A Gift that Will Set Many Free! Satan hates tongues, and will do everything he can to keep people from praying in this crucial way. Thankfully, things are changing at “the Loop” — “a place of peace again.”

For those of you who are skeptical of the importance in praying in tongues and attended ALCC’s Bible school, please consider this. Remember when Frank used to “blow out the carbon” before classes and Prayer and Praise. What do you think we were blowing out?

Also, some people get cursed more than others. Prophetic people (like Frank was. Thank you, Lord for Frank!!!) will be among those getting hit worst, which is why he so often recognized the need. Selah.

Josh also said they’re hoping to soon build a prayer room that can be used during the hours that the building is open. Francis Frangipane’s church building has a prayer room that is accessible 24/7 for those who can be trusted with the combination code:

We also have a prayer room which is accessible 24 hours a day. Simply stop by our office to request a copy of the lock combination for the prayer room door.

A friend of mine and I utilized this incredible after-hours opportunity awhile back. The entrance is between the building’s two sets of entrance doors. The outermost is left unlocked.

And I’d like to put in a plug for something I’ve been greatly longing for: a worship room—a place where people can come and hang out where freedom reigns through worship!

Worship is another way to be free, a way to excise demons. And it’s a significant, direct way of doing the Greatest Commandment, to love the Lord, our God, with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength. And when people worship God together in Spirit and in Truth [unhypocritically, having clean hands (right with all) and a clean heart. We can’t worship in Spirit if we aren’t worshiping in truth], God is greatly honored and His manifest presence will be there. “Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts…” (James 4:8). See what happened during the Asbury Revival: VIDEO: The Asbury Revival

International House of Prayer (IHOP) in Kansas City has a dedicated, 24/7 prayer room in which people can come anytime to participate, or just hang. There are even tables where people can study with their laptops. I like this model very much, but I think it can only be successful in God’s sight if worship in Spirit and in Truth is achieved through holiness—being right with God and right with each other—so we are worshiping in truth. Until holiness is more consistently realized among believers in general, it’s crucial that those leading worship need to be going-to-heaven, right-with-God-and-all-people children of God [see: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way]. Or the anointing won’t come, and it will mostly be in vain. Somebody has to lead the people out of the yuck and into God’s great light. Musical talent, alone, cannot do this. The musicians must be right with God to be able to lead. It’s better to have one person who is holy lead than many who aren’t. It’s even better to have an anointed CD playing than an unanointed worship leader leading, which would be totally cool, but the CDs would have to carefully be chosen by those who are sensitive to what is truly worshipful. Many are deceived by demon-anointed ‘worship,’ today. Which I think is similar to what Rick Joyner’s “The Final Quest” vision illustrates: demons riding on ‘Christians,’ who think this is the anointing of God. [Warning: grossness factor ahead. But it really is this gross in today’s average ‘Christian.’ It’s time to wake up!]

The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. …

Even worse than the vomit from the vultures was a repulsive slime that these demons were urinating and defecating upon the Christians they rode. This slime was the pride, selfish ambition, etc., that was the nature of the division they were a part of. However, this slime made the Christians feel so much better than the condemnation that they easily believed that the demons were messengers of God, and they actually thought this slime was the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

But here is the great part, when ONE happens, Jesus’ heart-cry for us in John 17:

When we reached the level called “The Unity of the Brethren,” none of the enemy’s arrows could reach us.

And:

When we reached the level called “Galatians Two Twenty,” we were above the altitude that the vultures could fly. At this level the sky above almost blinded us with its brightness and beauty. I felt peace like I had never felt it before. …

The “Galatians Two Twenty” level was so wide that there was no longer any danger of falling. … Faith, Hope and Love…were now so large that I knew people far beyond the battle area could see them. Their glory even radiated into the camp of prisoners who were still under a great cloud of vultures. The exhilaration continued to grow in all of us. I felt that being in this army, in this battle, had to be one of the greatest adventures of all time.

People who are right with God and who have a keen gift of discernment of spirits should oversee this venture—just like William Seymour carefully oversaw the goings on during the Azusa Street revival. Most who are gifted pastorally do not have a keen discernment gift that can smell the rat, and few pastors really appreciate and utilize those who are so gifted—those who can watch their backside and help keep the church clean so God can inhabit His people again. One former pastor even told me once that I was ‘weird.’

Incidentally, I had a dream, once, in which the people all spontaneously worshiped God without having to be led from the platform to enter in. I believe this day is coming, but isn’t here yet. Until it does, we need worship leaders who are right with God, first, and all people, so they can lead the people into worship.

Practically speaking, the prayer room concept could start by just having one worship-only service per week. Again, those on the platform must be holy (living in Gal. 5:22-24, really), or it won’t get off the ground. And it could probably be done in the auditorium if it got too big to fit in the chapel.

This is also a great time for people to hear from God. During Prayer and Praise in Bible school, I would often speak what God was telling me quietly into a micro-cassette recorder. I found I could more easily hear from God then. I suggested to two pastors about 20 years ago that a worship-only service could be done, which could incorporate a quiet time in which people could be encouraged to record or write down (or in this day and age, laptop users could type out) what God would speak to them. I knew this would work for many because it worked for me. So few ‘Christians’ hear from God regularly, or at all (because of demonic interference, I believe); though, this should be basic, fundamental, Christianity 101, because “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (John 10:27).

By the way, the two pastors I suggested this to did start worship-only services, but instead of encouraging the people to hear from God during a quiet time, the one had people come up and prophecy, and the other prophesied to the people himself. Both of these things are okay, but I was greatly disappointed that the people, themselves weren’t encouraged to learn to hear from God. One pastor called it a Celebration Service, but there wasn’t yet time to celebrate. Oneness with God and each other wasn’t yet close to being realized, and that church no longer exists. James 4 has to happen before we can in Spirit and in truth celebrate.

We can get it right this time, encouraging the people to directly connect in this glorious, pure-pipeline way. It’s easy to hear from God when the competition is gone, the demonic impostors that almost all ‘Christians’ currently have.

Guess where I think revival will start in America, y’all? But we must be right with everybody — forgiving everyone from the heart.
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“May this never again be found in our midst”:

This is Satan’s ultimate deception, and his ultimate power of destruction is released when he uses Christians to attack other Christians [James-3 cursing?]. Throughout the ages he has used this army, but never has he been able to capture so many to be used for his evil purposes. [also from Joyner’s vision]

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Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee————-dom!!!!!!!!!!! Power to the people and glory to God as we get freed up, together — lifting up truly HOLY hands in thanksgiving!!! God bless America as we worship in Spirit and in Truth — finally! Glory!!!

Jeff Fenske : )

By the way, if you’d like to leave a comment, it’s okay to be anonymous, and registration is not required. Please be kind. “People aren’t the enemy.” ONE can happen in our midst!

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Related:

WordPOWER: The Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4

Another Reason To Be Holy: Purity Attracts Angels (Filth Repells) | The Coming Healing Revival

Abbott Loop CC's New Colors!

Wow! I was pleasantly surprised.


© 2008 Life in the Son Photography

Father of Lights

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© 2008 Life in the Son Photography

Holy, Holy, Holy

[Taken with my tiny ELPH, handheld at about 1 sec., they’re a bit blurry. But the gorgeous colors come through.]
Way to go, Abbott Loop!
Posted with permission.
Related: Anchorage, Alaska: Josh Tanner Now Head Pastor of Abbott Loop CC

Anchorage, Alaska: Josh Tanner Now Head Pastor of Abbott Loop CC

Abbott Loop Community Church (formerly Abbott Loop Christian Center, where I graduated from Bible School in the ’80s) has a new head pastor, Josh Tanner.
I’ve heard that the transition took place about two weeks ago; though, their website doesn’t yet reflect this. Meeting times are here.
I’m extremely encouraged and full of joy by what I’ve heard so far, and hope to participate.
Jesus’ (John 17) prayer for ONE can happen!
: )
Related: Abbott Loop CC’s New Colors!

Transition Announced at Abbott Loop CC (Anchorage, Alaska)

From: AbbottLoop.org

2008-04-11: Elders Report

The elders met on April 8 at the home of Rick and Deloris Benjamin. We prayed for Val Hirschberg and other prayer needs. We reported on the progress of the transition to Josh Tanner becoming our next senior pastor. We will explore ways to bring similar reports to the congregation.
The elders will meet again on May 13 at the home of Carlos and Janet Guerra. Thank you for praying for the elders.

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Related: Anchorage, Alaska: Josh Tanner Now Head Pastor of Abbott Loop CC

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