From: News with Views, Paul Proctor: The Rush To Relevance Is The Road To Ruin
“Our time as Christians would be better spent swimming upstream against the currents of compromise and corruption than finding some fashionable flotilla with which to comfortably fit in and ride the rapids of relevancy over the falls to our spiritual demise.”
POLITICS, POWER and PRIDE:
How U.S Evangelicals Lost the Culture War and the Way Forward.
-by Eddie Hyatt.
Evangelicals may finally be realizing that political activism is not
the path to preserving the Christian character and culture of America.
After 30 years of the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition and the
religious right, America, last November, elected what are probably
the most liberal president and congress in its history. Since that
time 5 states have legalized homosexual marriage and others are
poised to follow suit. Chuck Schumer, the influential, liberal senator
from New York, gleefully declared that, “All this talk about family
and traditional values is a thing of the past.” In the midst of all this,
Dr. James Dobson, whom many would consider the most prominent
voice of the religious right, solemnly announced, “We (evangelical
Christians) have lost the culture war.”
Although this turn of events is disturbing for evangelical Christians,
this could be the starting point for a national awakening unto God;
but only if we admit our failures and turn from the notion that we can
change America by our own efforts, political or otherwise.
We (Evangelicals) Have Been Wrong
Please understand that I am not suggesting that we should not
be good citizens and participate in the political process; nor am
I suggesting that God does not call some to civil service and
statesmanship. But I am convinced that evangelical Christians in
America crossed the line in trying to change America through
political activism. We thought that if we could get enough Christians
elected to Congress and elect a Christian president that we would
preserve our Christian culture and heritage. Instead, politics, power
and pride became characteristic of American evangelicalism, rather
than prayer, compassion, humility and spiritual power. We forgot
that America has a history of Spiritual awakenings and that this
“revival heritage” has been the preserving force of our Christian
culture.
God Will Not Ride in on Either an Elephant or a Donkey
Hopefully, some are beginning to realize that God’s purposes for
America will not be realized through a political process or political
party. As Dr. Tony Evans once said, “God will not ride into our
midst on either an elephant (symbol of the Democrat party) or a
donkey (symbol of the Republican party).”
In seeking a political solution to our spiritual problems we,
as evangelical Christians, identified ourselves with a particular
political party and, thereby, alienated ourselves from over half of
the American populace. This is not good! Neither Jesus nor the
earliest Christians identified themselves with any of the many
political parties that were operative in their day; but, instead,
preached a transcendent government or kingdom of God that
would transform individuals (and thereby society) from within. We
need to take a closer look at the New Testament in this area and
adjust our thinking accordingly.
From: News with Views
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. Galations 1:6-7
My wife and I were returning home from church a few weeks ago and I couldn’t get away from the gnawing sensation inside my soul.
It had been a typical service, one that is mimicked thousands of times a week across America. You know how they go; you could probably print the church bulletin. People slowly wander in, with a rush just before the service starts, drop their children off in the “children’s church”, give a courteous smile and a “God bless you” to several people who’s names they can not recall, as they find their regular seat in a certain section of the “sanctuary.”
Soon the “praise team” led by the “minister of worship” begins to play as the words to the songs are flashed on the screen in front. After a few songs (usually about being a friend of God…or wanting to see Jesus), the worship leader encourages folks to mingle about and say good morning to others, an offering is received as a soloist does a “special” song, followed by “a time of prayer” where “unspoken requests” are remembered, a “message” from the pastor, concluded by a “time at the altar.” …
The American gospel is a “perverted gospel”…..and is “no gospel at all.”
I believe that the world is in a free-fall because of the false gospel spewing from the pulpits of America today. For over two hundred and fifty years America, and the Christianity we exported, was the fire-wall against the ever-advancing enemies of God throughout the world.
But the message of the American Church today is not the message of our Christian-forefathers. The American gospel is a humanistic, man centered, “meet my needs” gospel, designed to enhance one’s earthly life, not transform it.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. James 4:4.
Modern American Christianity is catering to “lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God.” To paraphrase John F. Kennedy most Americans go to church to “ask not what you can do for God, but what God can do for you.”
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. I John 2:15-16.
Is it possible that the American gospel is creating enemies of God by catering to the flesh?
Turn on Christian radio and listen to the “gospel.” Settle in front of your TV with a bowl of popcorn and embark on a Trinity Broadcasting Network marathon and watch the Humanistic gospel that is reflected off of the satellite. No longer is a sin-hating, turn from your wicked ways, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God gospel being trumpeted, but a worldly, pop-psychology, Jesus is an ATM in the Sky, life-enhancement, seeker-friendly, do not judge or offend gospel is being dished out. It hasn’t always been this way. …
The preaching of Edwards, Whitefield, Davies and Jarratt gave us America, liberty, missionaries to the world, and George Washington. Compare that to today’s gospel of Warren (look at this), Osteen, Hybels, and Copeland. Their preaching has led to AIDS taskforces, global warming, socialism, and Obama.
My thoughts go to a brief lunch I had a few years ago with a South African missionary who was visiting Ohio. The meeting was so brief that I cannot recall his name, but I will never forget what he imprinted on my heart that day. As I stood and shook his hand to leave he looked deep in my eyes and charged me with this.
“Please do not send anymore missionaries to my country. The American gospel is making our job harder. When financial blessings and prosperity fail to come to our people it is hard to open their hearts back up to receive the life-changing Gospel of the Kingdom. Please keep your version of the gospel in America.” …
The Gospel of Edwards and friends gave us the Great Awakening. Today’s gospel has given us the Great Apostasy. God is angry and his watchmen have failed to warn us.
“If they had a social gospel in the days of the prodigal son, somebody would have given him a bed and a sandwich and he never would have gone home.” Vance Havner
We are a prodigal nation, full of prodigal churches, led by prodigal pastors. We could return home, if only our pulpits would show us how. But I am not sure they know the way.
Standing firm on his platform of peace, KRS One calmed the crowd and security staff, which came to his defense after a fan lost control of himself, lashing out in anger by throwing a bottle in the direction of the stage.
After being struck in the face and hand and still holding the microphone, the legendary performer pleaded, “Let it go. Let it go. When negativity comes your way, let it go. Let this be an example as to how we stop the violence.”
Amazingly, the veteran emcee finished the last 15 minutes of his set as his right hand swelled to painful proportions, and he was rushed to Yale-New Haven hospital in an ambulance and treated for a fractured hand as well as dehydration.
From: Stop the Violence
KRS One Embodies His Stop the Violence Message After Fan Throws Bottle Toward Stage, Injuring Performer and Inciting Intense Reaction from Crowd
For Immediate Release
April 19, 2008
Hip Hop artist and activist, KRS One, demonstrates incredible restraint after overzealous fan throws bottle at a New Haven, CT nightclub, striking the icon in the face and fracturing his right hand. By doctor’s orders, all performance and lecture dates have been postponed until after May 1, 2008.
In the midst of an intense, multi-city mission in support of the Stop the Violence Movement, KRS One has been visiting some of the nation’s roughest neighborhoods, spreading his message of nonviolence to those who need to hear it most. During his latest stop in Chicago, the Teacha visited tragedy-plagued Crane High School, released the star-studded “Self Construction” single on Power 92.3 radio and held a press conference to promote peace with Illinois State Representative John Fritchey. His New Haven, CT stop brought him to the Toad’s Place nightclub where his true Stop the Violence message was tested.
Standing firm on his platform of peace, KRS One calmed the crowd and security staff, which came to his defense after a fan lost control of himself, lashing out in anger by throwing a bottle in the direction of the stage. After being struck in the face and hand and still holding the microphone, the legendary performer pleaded, “Let it go. Let it go. When negativity comes your way, let it go. Let this be an example as to how we stop the violence.” Amazingly, the veteran emcee finished the last 15 minutes of his set as his right hand swelled to painful proportions, and he was rushed to Yale-New Haven hospital in an ambulance and treated for a fractured hand as well as dehydration.
Though KRS One expressed his preference that the fan not be charged, his management team and the staff of the nightclub insisted upon an arrest for legal purposes related to the unfortunate impending postponement of future engagements.
Doctor Jeff Midgley of Yale-New Haven Hospital instructed the performer to postpone all previously scheduled commitments until he rehydrates and his fractured hand heals. [site lists 5 such events – ed.]
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Related:
KRS One: Wake Up!!! “They put a black face on the New World Order … They want us to be enraged, angered. Peace is a revolutionary strategy … Stop the violence in yourself”
One of the greatest songs of all time—just out, on the album, No Line on the Horizon! Lyrics by Bono and The Edge.
I was born to be with you
In this space and time
After that and ever after I haven’t had a clue
Only to break rhyme
This foolishness can leave a heart black and blue …
I was born to sing for you
I didn’t have a choice but to lift you up
And sing whatever song you wanted me to
I give you back my voice
From the womb my first cry, it was a joyful noise
…only love can leave such a mark
…only love can heal such a scar*
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…only love unites our hearts
Justify, till we die, you and I will magnify
The Magnificent
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* Question?
Such a scar* that only love can heal: is it the mark of the calling to sing and play for God, the alienation and put-downs from fallen man, the tremendous pressure to play something juicy? Or is it the black and blue heart caused by the foolishness of breaking rhyme with the Creator?
I was thinking the latter, but I’m not so sure now. I’m wondering what Bono and The Edge were thinking when they wrote the song. Imagine the struggle they’ve been through. Both attended a charismatic fellowship, called Shalom at one point with Larry Mullen. I’m really glad to see that Adam Clayton seems to also really like the song!!
Any ideas out there?
Incidentally, Bono has talked about how they could always count on God to show up when they would play live: Where the Streets Have No Name. God is in the house.
From: David Wilkerson Today, 3/11/09
PERFECT PEACE
In the time of panic, God’s trusting people will be blessed with perfect peace.
The Lord declares, “I create the fruit of the lips: Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord: and I will heal him” (Isaiah 57:19). The Hebrew word for “peace” here is “perfect peace.”
I believe that as we’re surrounded by chaos and hysteria in the coming days, America is going to witness the greatest testimony of God’s glory and power it has even seen. How? All of America will see that many of God’s people possess his perfect peace! In that time the Lord is going to raise up a people who’ve been endowed with his absolute, perfect peace – peace that Christ himself now enjoys at the right hand of the Father. And we’re going to live, move and breathe in that wonderful peace.
Scripture says God will keep all who trust him “…in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee” (Isaiah 26.3). And right now, many of God’s people are making this commitment to him: “I’m going to set my heart to seek God through everything, no matter what comes. I’m going to give him all that I have and all that I am. I believe his judgment is coming – so I’m going to prepare myself for him, as his bride!”
[UPDATE] My thoughts, five years later, September, 2013:
The timing of this is still very interesting to me. I heard this prophecy on October 10, 2008. Only four months earlier in June, the evangelicals overwhelmingly chose warmonger and pro-choice John McCain over the peacemaker and pro-rule-of-law-Constitutionalist Ron Paul, who believes we really are supposed to love our neighbors as ourselves, from those still in the womb to our so-called ‘enemies’ overseas — everyone — as Jesus taught. War should always be the very last resort: “not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord.” We should draw near to God and He will draw near to US, giving us wisdom as to what to do. Jesus said: “blessed are the PEACEMAKERS, for they shall be called CHILDREN OF GOD.” The evangelicals supported the Bush/Cheney wars and torture without question, as they gutted our Constitution, turning us into the police state that is ever increasing. Even our news and media is largely controlled. But most evangelicals still won’t investigate what really happened on 9/11, which is shocking to me. Why not pull back the curtain and see reality the way it really is? What are we waiting for?
When I saw the evangelicals in South Carolina boo Ron Paul in January 2012 for saying we should go by the Golden Rule, it was even more clear that America is finished. We have lost our soul, and by the time we get it back, Satan’s plans will be so advanced, because many evangelicals actually voted for evil, led by the pastors who aren’t abiding in Christ enough to lead the people into actually doing the greatest two commandments, without which we can’t be real, overcoming Christians.
So I still follow what is really going on politically at my other site and on Facebook, but ‘ONE’ happening is my passion. ‘ONE’ is Jesus passion, which He stated in John 17 — “that the world will know.” When ‘ONE’ happens, we’ll be able to rest in Him with each other no matter what happens. And we better tune into God as to where to live and what to do next, because serious judgment is coming on America.
“Pride comes before destruction, and an arrogant spirit before a fall.” – Proverbs 16:18
We could have easily avoided this disaster. All it would have taken was for one church to really walk in love, as the Holy Spirit was trying to help them do. But they wouldn’t listen to those of us who had clear words of insight and correction, like this one that I gave to a pastor way back in 1990, which still applies today:
Pastors had the template. They knew exactly what they were supposed to do. This 1990 prophecy, above is just one of many. And then instead of obeying, they introduced seeker services and man-made programs, and once-saved-always-saved.
So all these years later: let’s get this thing started. If we build it He will come. And we will be so happy in Christ!!!
And we can’t stop the end of America, now, but we can postpone what’s coming.
This is what happened. The church opened the sin gate, letting the demons in, shut their ears to God’s voice, leaving the sin gate open, pacified by the once-saved-always-saved false doctrine.
Ephesians 4:11-16 — we can still do it!!! It should be front and center, along with Jesus’ prayer of ‘ONE’ happening in John 17, and the greatest two commandments — with the greatest being the greatest.
Jesus wants to be head of His church. Will we let Him?
Then “our hearts will swell with love…!”
jeff
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Let Us Be ONE, Part 34 of 34
I received this prophecy totally unexpectedly while responding to this comment by Maria in New Zealand.
I did my best to only write what I was hearing. There was only one line in the word that I consciously stumbled at, so I removed it here (marked by *). For those interested, it’s still in the original, which I left completely alone except for formatting.
This prophecy is the main reason I believe conditions will only get worse in America, that it’s too late to reverse America’s collapse. There was a season when we could have reversed what is to come, God says. But the people He sent to warn us ‘Christians’ have been rejected. So now it’s time to focus on becoming ONE with each other, under God (Jesus’ heart-cry for us in John 17)— to no longer do our own thing, the Holy Spirit says in this prophecy.
In Christ and right with each other, we can soar, no matter how bad things get in the natural:
It doesn’t matter what the stock market will do, for holiness will abound and you will be ONE, living together, helping one another through the difficult times ahead.
It’s too late to reverse what’s been done, for My men have been rejected. There was a season.
Now is the time to overcome and get right with all those around, so you can be holy and set apart.
FORGIVENESS will reign from your hearts, and we will be together, embracing for eternity. You in Me and I in you. It should always be this way: resting, relaxed, righteousness ABOUNDING—your hearts GLAD! …
Your heart will swell with love, and it will be easy to remain in Me when others are on the BOAT with you.
Interestingly, the Holy Spirit uses the word ‘boat’ 8 times in this prophecy (which I capitalize, because i find this so unique). And anyone who knows me, knows that I’m a pretty straight forward thinker who rarely uses vivid imagery and metaphors in the way I write and speak. Poetry class was extremely hard for me, but here, nautical imagery flows easily from God.
It started with me writing this to Maria on Oct. 8, 2008:
Note: I strongly agree with Andrew Strom in most things. I really like his teaching. He really has a heart for God! But I think this is one of the few areas we would somewhat differ. Andrew talks about “genuine, unspeakable joy” happening after repentance, but I’ve seen God give people joy from which it is much easier to repent.
So many people have been hurt, today, that many don’t really know that God really, really loves them. They don’t know that they can totally trust God. Who is to say that joy can’t be up-front, that God can’t fill people with joy while the people are getting re-aquainted, learning to know and trust God again as Abba Father?
I know for a fact that it is often the Holy Spirit that is moving when people shake and even laugh. I’ve experienced it myself, and the more I forgave, the more I shook and laughed. It was more thrilling than riding a roller coaster, by far! And I’ve had many encounters since, sometimes daily (especially lately); though, not of this magnitude. I’ll explain later.
Shaking and laughing isn’t the problem. Doctrine is the problem. False doctrine, doctrines of demons are the problem. When things get weird at many of the so-called revival meetings, the problem stems from a lack of holiness and purity that plagues ‘Christianity,’ today. Without real repentance, the demons stay, and things can get really weird. ‘Christians’ are taught that they’ll get to heaven almost no matter what—that it’s hard to lose one’s salvation—and some even teach that it’s impossible, “once saved, always saved.”
Without holiness, no one will see God. God wants to help us get right with Him and each other. We should let Him do whatever He wants, but we must realize that our salvation is at stake if we don’t get right and learn to stay right with Him and each other. Our salvation is on the line! This isn’t a game. This is dead serious. We need to get right with Him and each other at all costs!
This is an example of a real revival, that I believe can soon happen in our midst: Asbury Revival, 1970: “Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?” And this time it can last! But it’s up to us.
Real revival is ONE happening — Jesus’ heart-cry for us to be truly being one with each other in Him!
May we be ONE, this year!!!!!!!
: )
.
From: TRUE & FALSE REVIVAL: An Insider’s Warning, by Andrew Strom – Chapter 3 excerpt
WHAT IS REAL REVIVAL?
As someone who has been studying and writing on Revival history for many years, I’m sure you can understand why I have often been saddened by the corruption of the term “Revival” – and what it actually means. This book is all about “True and False Revival”, so I guess it is high time that we look at the elements of TRUE Revival that have been seen again and again down the centuries.
Today, so few Christians seem to be aware of what really happens when God comes down (for that is what true Revival is – “GOD COMING DOWN”). When Moses came down from the mountain, he carried the holy presence and glory of God with him. The people wanted to run and hide! That is what true Revival has always been like. It is an invasion of the awesome holy presence of God – which is why the pattern of what happens in Revivals often repeats itself. Men’s hearts are essentially the same in each generation – so God’s holy presence has the same effect. Some get convicted, some want to run and hide, many cry loudly in repentance. Over and over, from the Book of Acts until now – we see the same things. And in a lot of ways, that makes it easier to discern the counterfeit from the real thing.
I am talking now about thousands of years of Revivals – where God has convicted men and women in the same way. Some people tell me, “Oh, it is going to be different this time.” Yes, there will always be something “new” in each Revival, but essentially God deals with the hearts of men in a similar way each time. I really hate it when people call the latest froth-and-bubble fad that is sweeping through the church ‘Revival’. …
As one writer commented, Revival is “not the top blowing off, but rather the bottom falling out.” And as Frank Bartleman (of the “Azusa Street‟ Revival) wrote: “I received from God early in 1905 the following keynote to revival: ‘The depth of revival will be determined exactly by the DEPTH OF THE SPIRIT OF REPENTANCE.’ And this will obtain for all people, at all times.” Anyone who has studied Revival history will say a big ‘Amen’ to Bartleman’s words here.
It is not uncommon, in real Revivals, for people to be so stricken with conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit that they are literally unable to do anything except lie face-down and cry out to God for mercy, in the greatest distress, until assured by Him that they have received His forgiveness. (Usually, especially in the early stages of Revival, these will be CHRISTIANS who have been harboring sin of some kind in their lives). Sometimes they may even feel the need to confess their sin publicly before forgiveness and cleansing can take place. We must never forget that Revival is firstly aimed at the Christians. As history clearly shows, it is a flood of deep cleansing, repentance and empowering aimed at “reviving” God’s people, so that they can bring in a mighty harvest. The following is a description of some of the Revival prayer meetings that took place in the Welsh Revival of 1858-59 (typical of many Revivals): “It was in its terrors that the eternal became a reality to them first. They seemed plunged into depths of godly sorrow… For some weeks it was the voice of weeping and the sound of mourning that was heard in the meetings. The house was often so full of the divine presence that ungodly men trembled terror-stricken; and at the close, sometimes they fled as from some impending peril…”
One eyewitness said of the famous 1904 Welsh Revival that it was not the eloquence of Evan Roberts that broke men down, but his tears. “He would break down, crying bitterly for God to bend them, in an agony of prayer, the tears coursing down his cheeks, with his whole frame writhing. Strong men would break down and cry like children… a sound of weeping and wailing would fill the air.” …
In this kind of genuine outpouring of the Holy Spirit, the tangible presence of God is very real. Frank Bartleman described one of the meetings during the Azusa Street Revival of 1906 as follows: “God came so wonderfully near us the very atmosphere of Heaven seemed to surround us. Such a divine ‘weight of glory’ was upon us we could only lie on our faces. For a long time we could hardly remain seated even. All would be on their faces on the floor, sometimes during the whole service. I was seldom able to keep from lying full length on the floor on my face.”
This overwhelming sense of being in the awesome presence, the “shekinah glory” of a holy God, brings agonizing conviction of sin to those whose hearts are not right with Him, but also great rejoicing and true joy to the ones who know they have been washed clean. These extremes of great sorrow over sin, followed by genuine ‘joy unspeakable’, often bring accusations of emotionalism and hysteria from those who oppose the Revival. However, it has been found that deep and genuine moves of God that begin with deep conviction, and result in deep joy, have always produced sound and lasting fruit wherever they have occurred.
True & False Revival: An Insider’s Warning, by Andrew Strom is available at Amazon
Related:
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit?
The Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
“Learn to listen to God’s voice and obey Him.
Wherever he wants to send you,
whatever He wants you to do – do it.
And I pray that not only will you be one who ‘survives’
this crisis, but one who ‘thrives’
– to the glory of God the Father.”
From: Revival School (Andrew Strom)
Since I believe (like others) that 2009 is going to be a year that “All hell breaks loose” (-Yes – you can quote me on that), I believe it is very important that God’s people come to grips with the key things that will help us survive – and even thrive – through this dark period of great Shaking. The following keys are taken from my book, “SURVIVE the DEPRESSION”-
(1) SPIRITUAL PREPARATION. As has been intimated all the way through the book, the most important keys to surviving and thriving in this present crisis are ‘SPIRITUAL’ in nature. The root causes of this mess are things like greed, apathy and the ‘Love of money’ – which are all SPIRITUAL diseases. And thus the answers are mostly spiritual also. Those who merely prepare in physical or practical ways will find this out to their great cost. If you want to survive and thrive, prepare yourself ‘spiritually’ above all else. Spend time seeking God, get rid of all sin, obey Him implicitly, help the poor, leave behind the shallow ‘junk’ of our culture and become a radical disciple of Jesus. If you have a family to care for, put the same principles into practice. Become a RADICAL FAMILY for Christ! Don’t delay. We are out of time. Such ‘spiritual’ preparations are by far the most important answer to surviving and thriving in these dark times. But don’t just selfishly seek God so you can ‘survive’. Seek Him for His own sake. Become a true disciple who lives for Christ – not for what you can ‘get out of it’ – but because your deepest desire is to utterly glorify Him.
(2) POSITION YOURSELF. Sometimes Christians can get away with being in the wrong place for quite some time. But not in a crisis like this. Every Christian needs to ask themselves right now, ‘Am I exactly where I am meant to be? Am I am with the people that God wants me with? Am I in the right group, the right city?’ If you know that God has been whispering to you for quite some time that you are meant to be in a different place, then do not delay. Get yourself and your family into the place that you know is in the very center of His will – even if it means losing money, or leaving behind friends, a well-paid job, or whatever. This is no time to be caught anywhere but in the exact center of God’s will for your life. Pray about it and take action. Don’t put it off!
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from “SURVIVE THE COMING DEPRESSION” (-Nov 07), posted now at Revival School’s Home Page
“We’ve got to prepare for what is about to happen in America. … It’s coming, and it cannot be stopped. No amount of praying will stop it. It’s already too late. We have one hope, and one hope only for revival in America, and that is to have revival in the midst of judgments.
– Andrew Strom
I saw Phil Keaggy play “March of the Clouds” about 1/2 of my lifetime ago, and had the great pleasure of telling him that this song reminds me of heaven. He smiled and said something like: “really?”
To me, this marching of the clouds symphonic illustration also has a strong ascending quality, a rising up toward heaven, kind of like in The Spiral Staircase Vision, but with no lonely downside, because the body of Christ is marching up the staircase together, towards God as ONE unit — everyone right with each other and finally, truly ‘in Christ’ — each led by the Holy Spirit.
I don’t know what Phil was thinking when he wrote this song, but it’s interesting that he chose the image of clouds marching across the sky. For every cloud is a unique, one-of-a-kind, though the entire sky is often filled with clouds that are all moving in exactly the same direction, moving as if ONE.
Paul’s picture in 1 Corinthians 12 is similar. “You are the body of Christ” (v. 27) One is a foot, another is an eye, etc., each having different spiritual giftings. But “there should be no schism in the body” (v. 25a). We need each other to be able to march as ONE — in Christ, our Head.
Rick Joyner’s vision comes to mind: “When we reached the level called “The Unity of the Brethren,” none of the enemy’s arrows could reach us.”
ONE will happen, and it will be glorious!!
[youtube=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vAd1QOk80bw]A 1-minute tribute from the stupendous middle section
[youtube=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUqHjXmk2Q]The March of the Clouds
A few of the YouTube comments:
“playing with the finger and the plectrum of God, he could calm an army of sauls.”
“This is the song that God plays at the cloud factory :)”
“If I had to define Phil Keaggy musically, I’d say this: His greatest talent and gift, I believe, isn’t just that he plays so well – its that he also knows exactly where and how to hang each note – as if he’s decorating with the music. He’s an artist more than a guitar player. He just paints with music.”
This is so true!! My heart leaped when I read this!
Originally from: Revival School (Andrew Strom)
THE RED GATE PROPHECY – Michael Quintana.
I was awakened a few years ago by a disturbing dream I had one morning. The disturbing thing about this dream was that I had no idea where it came from, what it meant, and why I was shown this dream. There was no interpretation given me of what this dream meant which added frustration to my not knowing. The reality, intensity and urgency of this dream left me with many questions that were not immediately answered. The interpretation of this dream was given to me about two years later by God again but this time it was given to me through an extraordinary day vision. This dream had to do with me, California and the country.
The DREAM
It was early 2002 that this disturbing dream came to me while I was asleep one night. I was fast asleep when all of a sudden I woke up in the middle of nowhere in what looked to be the middle of the Central California valley. I recognized the valley because of the mountains east and west of me. I grew up in this Central California valley and I am very familiar with the surroundings. I was not scared but it was odd standing there in the middle of nowhere and not in my bedroom. This may seem odd but I felt wide awake like when I wake up every morning. The only difference was that my senses seemed to be on extra sensitive.
In fact I felt more awake, alert, and alive than when I wake up normally in my bedroom. I woke up into this incredible bright sunny beautiful day with the clearest clean air and a clearest blue sky I ever saw. I was standing on what seemed to be a greener than green oasis. I could clearly see the mountains in front of and behind me. This was just like when I was a child after a rain. I could clearly see the mountains on the east and west side of me. What caught my attention between me on the oasis and the mountains east and west of me were the miles and miles of this rich dark soiled dirt.
I then took notice that I was standing on the north side of this little green grassy oasis which was about two to 4 acres. Right at the edge of this green oasis just north of me was this big brighter than bright red gate. It was just standing on the outer edge of the greener than green oasis.
It was so odd to see this big red gate standing in front of me in the middle of nowhere. Everything looked like it belonged except this red gate. There was no fence or wall attached to this big bright red gate. It was just odd to see it standing there by itself.
I felt happiness and joy to be there in front of this big red gate. All of a sudden, I heard God’s voice out of nowhere. He then gave me very stern instructions. I knew this was God’s voice because I have heard his voice before and I know his voice. He said in a stern voice, “Mike, do not open the red gate”!
Wow! Is this interesting, and very important!!
I don’t necessarily agree with the author’s conclusion, but the parts I’ve bolded ring totally true with what I’ve seen.
It’s time to let those who are truly called by God to lead, and for the others to not be jealous any more—but rather thankful, and submissive—so Jesus can be Lord, Head of His church—finally!!
This isn’t a competition, a sporting event for guys to be seen by men; or a contest of who can speak the best…. This isn’t a game! This is about God having His way, not man having theirs.
He has placed His gifts in the body as He determines. It is sin to place others in charge who are not specifically called by God to lead. And God makes it clear who these are. But the Sauls play dumb, for they would have to relinquish their power to God, Himself, if they put the Davids in charge—and maybe even admit that they’ve been wrong, and “get right with those they’ve hurt.”
Where is the fear of the Lord? It is written: “The Lord will judge His people.” [Heb. 10:30]
Finally, can we do it right this time? Pretty please?
Jesus, have Your way. You are King! Live through us!
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From: Revival School (Andrew Strom)
ENRAGED Yet ANOINTED??
-D. Leesley.
“And Saul sent messengers to take David: and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying, and Samuel standing as appointed over them, the Spirit of God was upon the messengers of Saul, and they also prophesied… And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah. And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?” (1 Sam 19).
The question has come up. Can a man of God operate in the flesh and yet have the blessing and anointing of God in their life? Can they display the workings of the Holy Spirit one time and operate like the devil himself at other times? Or worse yet, can the man of God or teacher or preacher speak with the Holy unction and at the very same time speak falsehood while under that unction?
King Saul was a man after the people’s own hearts. They had refused God’s desire and divine purpose which was to be their King and Lord personally. They wanted a man they could see and touch. One they could lavish their love and praise upon. God told Samuel to give them what they want. Give them their heart’s desire. But at the end of the day, they’d wish they had made a better decision. God even warned them about their folly in chapter 8.
Saul took his armies to battle and won victories right and left. God surely must be pleased with the ‘new program’, right? Wrong. It still wasn’t God’s perfect plan or purpose.
We have today, what I call, a ‘church gone wild’. Tithing, titles and tiers, and might I add, tears. Tears of those who are suffering under an abusive system of control, greed and arrogance. And yet God does tend to His out of sync flock in spite of 1700 years of ignoring the N.T. plan and mould for the ‘body elect’.
Even as Saul was NOT God’s desired progam, yet His helping hand remained upon Israel. In these few verses we read about a very evil, arrogant and envious man who God appointed over Israel only because of their rejection of God’s position in their midst.
The time did finally come when God said ‘enough is enough’. He was about to replace Saul with David, a man after His own heart. David was anointed and humble. Disinterested, only caring about what God wanted. This drove Saul nuts with rage and jealousy. We all know the story here.
But look at this. Saul sent his messengers to find David and take him captive and bring him to Saul so he could destroy him. This leader’s closest companions had no real problem with this. But when they came upon Samuel and the prophets prophesying, the Spirit of the Lord came upon them and they spoke under the unction as well. They returned unto Saul and told him that the Holy Ghost had come upon them and they had a mini revival. Saul sent other messengers two more times with the same results.
Yet we do not read where these compadres had any change of heart about their mission. Finally Saul made the journey and when he arrived the Holy Ghost came upon him as well and he prophesied all night long. What a gloroius time in the Lord. What power displayed. Yet this man never reversed his plan to kill humble David, to rid himself he thought, in so doing, of conviction.
David flees to Jonathan crying [my paraphrase] ‘ What have I done? What’s wrong with me that God’s appointed leader doesn’t like me or want me around? I have honored him. I have behaved myself in humility around him. I have surrendered all to my God…I have…” Uh Oh!! There it is. A sure plan of action for rejection by God’s anointed leader.
This has not changed, trust me. I have witnessed this first hand many times in the modern institution we call ‘church.’ The more humble you become, the more surrendered to God you strive to be, the more anointing you obtain, the more proof you make of your ministry, the more cold shoulders from the hierarchy of organized religion you will witness.
So the premise of this piece is, can the true anointing be in play while a heart full of wickedness is still maintained? According to what we just looked at in the story of Saul, the answer would be yes. Can the same scenario exist today under the new covenant? My opinion would be yes, definitely.
[Sad and tragic, yet manifestly true – Ed.]
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Willful Ignorance: Actively Resisting the Truth & Truth-tellers
From: Revival School (Andrew Strom)
THE CALL to FORSAKE ALL
by Michael Carl.
“As Jesus passed along the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his
brother Andrew casting a net into the sea?for they were fishermen.
And Jesus said to them, ‘Follow me and I will make you fish for
people.’ And immediately they left their nets and followed him.”
What did it mean when Jesus strolled the shore of Lake Galilee
and call those men to serve Him without reservation? Well, in
one way or another, it meant a complete surrender to Jesus.
When they heard Him say, “‘If any want to become my followers,
let them deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me‘”
(Mark 8.34), they eventually learned that He meant it.
For most of them, it meant dying for the Lord. We all know from
Foxe’s Book of Martyrs that all of the original Apostles, second
edition (with Matthias), except John went to a martyr’s death.
Thomas, not realising the full impact of what he was saying, said
it correctly when he said in John chapter eleven, “‘Let’s go back
to Judea so we may die with Him.'”
Yet, we have to ask today, what does it mean when Jesus says,
“‘Follow me and I will make you fish for people'”? Is there any
real meaning behind Jesus’ own words, “‘If any want to become
my followers, let them deny themselves and take up their cross
and follow Me'” for us today? Do we really believe this or have
Christ’s own words simply become a romanticised exercise in a
formulaic religious contemplation for today’s 21st Century North
American Christian?
In truth, we have to come to terms with the reality that if we don’t
really believe He means what He says in these Mark passages,
then in fact we are denying the truth and efficacy of God’s Word.
As one of my teachers along the way said, “We’re professing
believers; but in fact, we’re practical atheists.”
The good professor was blunt, but brutally true. When it comes
to obeying the Word of God, we don’t do too well with the
passages requiring personal sacrifice.
Folks, this must change. If we’re ever to realise the depth and
beauty of a vital relationship with our Lord, we have to let go and be willing to trust Him with ALL of His Words.
Are we willing to do that?
If not, then our practical doubts are going to rob us of the very
meat and meaning for which we deeply long.
Let us resolve this day that we’re not going to be spectators;
we’re going to take a step from the shore, wade in and fully
become “a fisherman”.
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From: Revival School (Andrew Strom)
FORGIVENESS Brings REVIVAL
-by Tony Langton.
A few days ago a minister friend of mine traveled to Kentucky to
preach in a church. Shortly before he arrived, the pastor’s wife
was stricken with illness. She requested prayer for healing, but
before she was prayed for, a man in the church asked her some
important questions. He asked, “When did this illness start and
what was happening in your life when you got sick?” She
answered by saying her illness started about the time a major
incident occurred in their church daycare, in which she was
involved. The Lord revealed to this woman that she had critically
judged some people involved in the daycare incident. She
repented of this sin and was healed, which set the stage for
what God was going to do next.
Later my minister friend showed up to teach, among other things,
about the crucial need to forgive those who had wronged them
so they could be right with God. The Lord moved there in a
remarkable way as the Holy Spirit uncovered unforgiveness in
the leaders and the congregation. Many church people there
were convicted that God wanted to clear up all the relational
“viruses” before God could descend upon them in power.
My friend said that he personally prayed with approximately 40
people who were seeking repentance and wanting to make things
right with others in a congregation of about 150 folks. This is the
beginning of a true revival. I believe there will be an increased
movement of God in the future, but much of it will be preceded by
a time of great adversity where everything that can be shaken
will be shaken. In the middle of this crisis I believe there will be
an outpouring of God’s Spirit. The Lord is giving His church the
forewarning so that we can have a song of praise in our hearts
beforehand and be prepared to help others.
Are there any relationships that you need to clear up?
~Tony Langton.
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Update 7/24/23: Preservice group prayer never was fully reinstated at Abbott Loop, now called “Unite Church.” Josh’s tightly structured version didn’t last long, probably only months, and he stopped attending. Since then, there has either been just a handful praying, or no group prayer at all. There used to be hundreds!
UPDATE 2/24/09: When I wrote this, a number of months ago, I didn’t realize that Josh’s concept of prayer seems to be quite different from the let-it-rip style of before. It would be nice to have a combination of both relational and let-it-rip. And the more the better.
Freeeeeeeeeee——-dom!
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Dear holiness, revival hungry friends,
Josh Tanner, new head pastor of Abbott Loop Community Church in Anchorage, announced last week that pre-service prayer will be reinstated in the gym, 9:45 am. Service starts at 10:30.
I call this a milestone because I think this is one of the milestones that helped ALCC get freed up, able to in many ways overcome years ago, and now will again. And it’s great to see Josh have the vision for the need for corporate prayer! For my guess is that for many people, this is the only time they will pray in tongues. And since I have yet to knowingly meet someone who forgives everyone, everywhere from their entire heart 100% of the time, most people need to pray in tongues to get free from the tormentors (Mt. 18).
This is huge! Way more important than most Christians realize, partly because of the false doctrine taught that demons can’t influence Christians directly, which is one of the greatest deceptions Satan has largely pulled off. Most people have demons influencing their thoughts and emotions and affecting their bodies. This can be proven clinically and Biblically. Praying in tongues is one of the greatest ways to get free and to free others. From my “Let Us Be ONE” prophecy: A Gift that Will Set Many Free! Satan hates tongues, and will do everything he can to keep people from praying in this crucial way. Thankfully, things are changing at “the Loop” — “a place of peace again.”
For those of you who are skeptical of the importance in praying in tongues and attended ALCC’s Bible school, please consider this. Remember when Frank used to “blow out the carbon” before classes and Prayer and Praise. What do you think we were blowing out?
Also, some people get cursed more than others. Prophetic people (like Frank was. Thank you, Lord for Frank!!!) will be among those getting hit worst, which is why he so often recognized the need. Selah.
Josh also said they’re hoping to soon build a prayer room that can be used during the hours that the building is open. Francis Frangipane’s church building has a prayer room that is accessible 24/7 for those who can be trusted with the combination code:
We also have a prayer room which is accessible 24 hours a day. Simply stop by our office to request a copy of the lock combination for the prayer room door.
A friend of mine and I utilized this incredible after-hours opportunity awhile back. The entrance is between the building’s two sets of entrance doors. The outermost is left unlocked.
And I’d like to put in a plug for something I’ve been greatly longing for: a worship room—a place where people can come and hang out where freedom reigns through worship!
Worship is another way to be free, a way to excise demons. And it’s a significant, direct way of doing the Greatest Commandment, to love the Lord, our God, with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength. And when people worship God together in Spirit and in Truth [unhypocritically, having clean hands (right with all) and a clean heart. We can’t worship in Spirit if we aren’t worshiping in truth], God is greatly honored and His manifest presence will be there. “Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts…” (James 4:8). See what happened during the Asbury Revival: VIDEO: The Asbury Revival
International House of Prayer (IHOP) in Kansas City has a dedicated, 24/7 prayer room in which people can come anytime to participate, or just hang. There are even tables where people can study with their laptops. I like this model very much, but I think it can only be successful in God’s sight if worship in Spirit and in Truth is achieved through holiness—being right with God and right with each other—so we are worshiping in truth. Until holiness is more consistently realized among believers in general, it’s crucial that those leading worship need to be going-to-heaven, right-with-God-and-all-people children of God [see: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way]. Or the anointing won’t come, and it will mostly be in vain. Somebody has to lead the people out of the yuck and into God’s great light. Musical talent, alone, cannot do this. The musicians must be right with God to be able to lead. It’s better to have one person who is holy lead than many who aren’t. It’s even better to have an anointed CD playing than an unanointed worship leader leading, which would be totally cool, but the CDs would have to carefully be chosen by those who are sensitive to what is truly worshipful. Many are deceived by demon-anointed ‘worship,’ today. Which I think is similar to what Rick Joyner’s “The Final Quest” vision illustrates: demons riding on ‘Christians,’ who think this is the anointing of God. [Warning: grossness factor ahead. But it really is this gross in today’s average ‘Christian.’ It’s time to wake up!]
The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. …
Even worse than the vomit from the vultures was a repulsive slime that these demons were urinating and defecating upon the Christians they rode. This slime was the pride, selfish ambition, etc., that was the nature of the division they were a part of. However, this slime made the Christians feel so much better than the condemnation that they easily believed that the demons were messengers of God, and they actually thought this slime was the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
But here is the great part, when ONE happens, Jesus’ heart-cry for us in John 17:
When we reached the level called “The Unity of the Brethren,” none of the enemy’s arrows could reach us.
And:
When we reached the level called “Galatians Two Twenty,” we were above the altitude that the vultures could fly. At this level the sky above almost blinded us with its brightness and beauty. I felt peace like I had never felt it before. …
The “Galatians Two Twenty” level was so wide that there was no longer any danger of falling. … Faith, Hope and Love…were now so large that I knew people far beyond the battle area could see them. Their glory even radiated into the camp of prisoners who were still under a great cloud of vultures. The exhilaration continued to grow in all of us. I felt that being in this army, in this battle, had to be one of the greatest adventures of all time.
People who are right with God and who have a keen gift of discernment of spirits should oversee this venture—just like William Seymour carefully oversaw the goings on during the Azusa Street revival. Most who are gifted pastorally do not have a keen discernment gift that can smell the rat, and few pastors really appreciate and utilize those who are so gifted—those who can watch their backside and help keep the church clean so God can inhabit His people again. One former pastor even told me once that I was ‘weird.’
Incidentally, I had a dream, once, in which the people all spontaneously worshiped God without having to be led from the platform to enter in. I believe this day is coming, but isn’t here yet. Until it does, we need worship leaders who are right with God, first, and all people, so they can lead the people into worship.
Practically speaking, the prayer room concept could start by just having one worship-only service per week. Again, those on the platform must be holy (living in Gal. 5:22-24, really), or it won’t get off the ground. And it could probably be done in the auditorium if it got too big to fit in the chapel.
This is also a great time for people to hear from God. During Prayer and Praise in Bible school, I would often speak what God was telling me quietly into a micro-cassette recorder. I found I could more easily hear from God then. I suggested to two pastors about 20 years ago that a worship-only service could be done, which could incorporate a quiet time in which people could be encouraged to record or write down (or in this day and age, laptop users could type out) what God would speak to them. I knew this would work for many because it worked for me. So few ‘Christians’ hear from God regularly, or at all (because of demonic interference, I believe); though, this should be basic, fundamental, Christianity 101, because “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (John 10:27).
By the way, the two pastors I suggested this to did start worship-only services, but instead of encouraging the people to hear from God during a quiet time, the one had people come up and prophecy, and the other prophesied to the people himself. Both of these things are okay, but I was greatly disappointed that the people, themselves weren’t encouraged to learn to hear from God. One pastor called it a Celebration Service, but there wasn’t yet time to celebrate. Oneness with God and each other wasn’t yet close to being realized, and that church no longer exists. James 4 has to happen before we can in Spirit and in truth celebrate.
We can get it right this time, encouraging the people to directly connect in this glorious, pure-pipeline way. It’s easy to hear from God when the competition is gone, the demonic impostors that almost all ‘Christians’ currently have.
Guess where I think revival will start in America, y’all? But we must be right with everybody — forgiving everyone from the heart.
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“May this never again be found in our midst”:
This is Satan’s ultimate deception, and his ultimate power of destruction is released when he uses Christians to attack other Christians [James-3 cursing?]. Throughout the ages he has used this army, but never has he been able to capture so many to be used for his evil purposes. [also from Joyner’s vision]
Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee————-dom!!!!!!!!!!! Power to the people and glory to God as we get freed up, together — lifting up truly HOLY hands in thanksgiving!!! God bless America as we worship in Spirit and in Truth — finally! Glory!!!
Jeff Fenske : )
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Related:
WordPOWER: The Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4
Another Reason To Be Holy: Purity Attracts Angels (Filth Repells) | The Coming Healing Revival
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qOqitIKUNs]A Revival Account: Asbury 1970
“The 1970 revival at Asbury College will go down in history as one of the greatest supernatural events of the last half of the 20th century. Millions of people across the United States and the world were impacted by it. This simple video does a wonderful job of conveying something of the outpouring’s heart and power. Everyone we have ever shown this to have an immediate impartation of faith for revival and the power of prayer. What God did once at this campus, we believe He will do again
Why is this a big deal? I explain in Rethinking Matthew 24: “…then the end will come” — after the Pete Townsends “know”? that people have a right to see real Christianity, “so they’ll know,” Jesus said in John 17.
When His people become ONE, Jesus’ prayer for us [it may just start with a small group], the world will know that God is good, holy, awesome, because the real Christians will be full of His light and goodness, having a heart of love (not preemptive war)—actually loving everyone as much as we love ourselves and loving the Lord, our God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength!
Everyone is precious, but some people touch us more than others. …
May we become ONE with each other in Christ, not just for ourselves, but so the Paul Newmans, the Pete Townsends, etc. will know….
Then our hands will be clean — and life will be awesome, no matter what!
Jeff Fenske : )
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From: Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural, July 14-20, 2008
My guest as a young man met elderly people
who were involved in the biggest move of miracles
in the history of America.
It was called the Azusa Street Revival.
He tells me that he met some of the people and heard
first hand what occurred, stories such as ears
that did not exist popping back into place,
arms that did not exist coming out and growing,
these are called creative miracles.
Did you know that the Azusa Street Revival
that happened in the early 1900’s was the
first integrated church in America?
God picked a one-eyed black man to lead the greatest
move of God’s Spirit in miracles I believe since the first
coming of the Messiah….
Sid: Now William Seymour prophesied about the next
revival that will come, tell me about that.
Tommy: He prophesied that in about a hundred years,
he did this in 1909, that there would be a…
Sid: So about a hundred years would be 2009?
Tommy: Yes, that would be about, before or after?
Sid: About, okay.
Tommy: He said another revival like unto Azusa Street
only greater would come again, only this time it wouldn’t be
in one place, it would be all over the world….
[But it’s gotta start somewhere – jeff]
pdf of Entire Interview
Related:
The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
(audio) Sid Roth on ‘Coast to Coast AM’ 9/1/13: Miracles & Healing — Why did the Azusa St. revival stop (1906-1909)? William Seymour “became too sophisticated for the box” — to hear and obey — but prophesied an even greater revival would happen in 100 years!
Tommy Welchel on William Seymour and Charles Parham’s 100-Year Prophecy: On the same day in 1909, hundreds of miles apart, they both prophesied God’s visible shekina glory would return to earth after 100 years, but this time everywhere!
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”
Sid Roth: The missing ingredient, speaking in tongues — “I believe that God wants to restore this gift for the last great push of God’s spirit”
Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
From: The Christian Science Monitor
…American Christians seem as devoted to their government as Ruth was to Naomi. But should they be? Do either the flag or the Pledge have any place in the Lord’s house? …
The trouble doesn’t lie with Christianity but with power. The two have always been at odds. Political power is a synonym for “physical force,” for bending people to government’s will regardless of their inclinations, interests, or welfare. But Christianity is love – power’s antidote. Anyone who sincerely follows Jesus Christ will never try to compel others – because he didn’t. Jesus sought to persuade by word and example, loving men so much that he let them judge for themselves the truth of his teachings. …
And many support a war in Iraq that has killed tens of thousands and put civilians – including Iraq’s brave but tiny Christian community – in great tribulation. Sadly, I have yet to hear any American church pray for Iraqis as they endure the persecution, poverty, and pain this war has inflicted. But congregants who are Americans first and Christians second often ask God to bless our troops on Sundays.
If they think about it at all, most believers probably see the flag and Pledge as tokens of affection for their country. In reality, both symbolize an infatuation with government. Churches hope to change circumstances through political force when Jesus called us to change hearts and minds with his message. We cheat ourselves, trusting the state’s inferior and transitory power instead of the Almighty.
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Related:
[Video] Greg Boyd on ‘Charlie Rose’: How the Quest for Political Power Is Destroying the Church
MacArthur: The Prostitution of Christianity–”My kingdom is not of this world”
This video, in which Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend, The Who, perform their last song of the evening, “Tea and Theatre,” is an excellent example of a burden that I have about why it’s crucially important that ONE happens soon.
From the beginning of the prophecy, Let Us Be One, A Kindness that I Want to Flow From My Body:
On the night before Jesus sacrificed his life for us, he prayed that those who would follow would be one. His heart still longs to see this fulfilled in our lives – “that the world may know.”
Not for these only do I pray, but for those also who believe in me through their word, that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that you sent me. THE GLORY which you have given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, even as we are one; I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me. (John 17:20-23)
Millions, if not billions of people, right now, are not compelled to become Christians because of the bitter taste that professing Christians are leaving in their stomachs. In fact, many see more love in some non-Christians—which is exceedingly sad, and needs to be remedied.
People have a right to see the real thing—real Christianity. “That they may be perfected into ONE,” Jesus said. “That the world may know.”
When ONE happens in just one group, and then it spreads like wildfire, then if people choose to reject it, so be it. At least they had a chance to really see what they were rejecting—the beauty of what real, Biblical Christianity is!
For a number of years, for some reason, I’ve had a particular burden for Pete Townshend to see ONE happen before he leaves this earth. I think his heart would leap when he sees the real thing, which is probably what he’s been yearning for all his life. When Pete Townshend sees it (whether he becomes a Christian or not), then I think we’ve done our job, then the world will know. Everyone has a right to see the real thing before they die.
Many think Jesus’ words in Matthew 24 are about people just hearing a message, that once all of the unreached peoples hear the Gospel story then the end will come. I’ve been thinking lately that it’s more about once the world sees ONE happen, then the world will know and then the end will come. Consider Matthew 24:11-14 in light of John 17:
Many false prophets will arise, and will lead many astray [which is happening by the droves through most pastors and priests today]. Because iniquity will be multiplied, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end, the same will be saved. This Good News of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
What is being preached by most ‘Christians’ today isn’t really a testimony to the nations. Jesus said in John 17 that the world will know when ONE happens, not just when people hear the Gospel story.
I think Pete Townshend is a good example of a deep thinking, intuitive person who isn’t fooled by hypocrites, who profess Christianity but aren’t even going to heaven, themselves, because they’re not abiding in Christ. Pete will only be impressed by the real thing—which needs to pass the Pete Townshend Smell Test.
I think Jesus call for us to be ONE in John 17 is the testimony to all the nations in Matthew 24. And we can bring this about, by His grace/enablement, as we abide in Him, together!
Then the world will know, and then the end will come.
Freedom!
May we be ONE!
Jeff Fenske : )
Related:
[Screaming for REVIVAL!] The Who ended their Super-Bowl-Half-time set with these words (after Roger Daltrey screamed “Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!”): “Don’t you get fooled … again”
[Music Videos] Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend SCREAMING for REVIVAL since 1973: “Love, Reign o’er Me” (Studio and LIVE versions) — Who of us will step up so ‘ONE’ can happen and then the world will know? (Jesus heart-cry in John 17)
Neil Young changes tune on war — my thoughts
My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is MIGHT and there is POWER and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!
(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: RECONCILIATION the KEY! — “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘I just hit my 34th person and I’m free!’”
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
(video) The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next, even greater revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
Excerpted from: pdf transcript of Sid Roth It’s Supernatural! — April 28-May 4, 2008
Sid: …my guest, Steven Brooks, wakes up one evening, and not, not 2, not 3, not 4, but 5 angels are in a circle around him! … Why were they there? What was there purpose?
Steven: Well they came to talk to me, they said “we want to talk with you about the spirit of Holiness.” And for 30 minutes, they did most of the talking, I was allowed to ask a few questions, but for 30 minutes, they told me how important it is to live a life that is pleasing to the Lord with Holiness. That an individual has a responsibility to do there part,
Sid: Is Holiness the way you dress? Is Holiness, an external thing? What were they telling you?
Steven: Sure, that is a good question, because when they talked with me, there wasn’t a trace of what we would call legalism, or you can’t do this or you can’t do that. Because in our heart we know the Holy Spirit will lead us to do things, that are pleasing to the Lord. But there is an element of doing things, there are certain things that you don’t want to put into your ears. There are certain things that you don’t want your eyes to see. You want to maintain purity as much as possible, because that also will attract the angels. An impure thought life, the angels pick up on that, In the spirit realm, they are able to see, what we are emanating, what’s radiating out of us,
Sid: I have to ask you a question. What happens if someone watches TV, that is very violent, are we talking about something like that, or are we talking about something much deeper?
Steven: Yes, No those types of things bring a type of spiritual defilement, and the person may think, that doesn’t affect me, but in the spirit realm, those things are very easily distinguished. Angels can tell what a person is emanating, If you’re emanating the love of God, and that purity, they want to be around you. But if a person puts all kinds of garbage and filth inside of there mind, and inside of there thinking, evil spirits are able to tell what a person is emanating and they will be attracted to that. Impure thoughts, they will gather around that. Thoughts of self-centeredness, depression, that draws them. So there’s ways that we need to live, that are holy and pleasing to the Lord, to please the Lord, and to create and atmosphere that’s conducive to the Holy Spirit.
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Sid: Now man looks at someone on television someone that has a meeting with 10,000, 100,000 people in attendance, but I think God’s measurement is different then man’s.
Steven: It can be completely different, the way the Lord measures success. It’s really being obedient to the Lord and doing what he told you to do, whatever that might be, that’s where the reward is at, that’s where the anointing is at.
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Sid: Hello Sid Roth here, with Steven Brooks, and Steven had a visitation from Jesus. Jesus described to him the next, the greatest, move of the God’s Spirit in history for healing and miracles that’s about ready to happen. Steven, what did He tell you?
Steven: Well, the interesting thing, Sid, is that the Lord said “I want to talk with you about the coming healing revival,” and I was very interested in that. And so, He began to share some things with me, and one of the things I want to share is that it’s America’s turn.
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Sid: I hear so much bad stuff about America, it’s good to hear some good about America.
Steven: Well praise the Lord, there’s some great things coming. The Lord has provoked the American church to jealousy. We’ve heard about the great miracles, even the creative miracles, in South America, in Africa, and different parts of the world, but we’ve only seen little tidbits of that here in America. But that is coming to America. These great creative miracles are coming to America, and a healing revival is going to hit a level that will surpass anything that’s ever happened in church history. It’s going to be very powerful.
Sid: Give me some specifics He told you of the types of healings.
Steven: The Lord gave me several specific examples. He said one thing that will happen in these meetings, they’ll run 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. He said they’ll run around the clock. It’ll just be a total outpouring of His Spirit. He said one thing that’ll take place is that people that have suffered sever burns, even third degree burns which can even be fatal, they’ll be brought into the meeting and laid out in the meeting, He said they’ll be completely healed and receive brand new skin. …
Sid: What did He tell you about brain damage?
Steven: He told me even children that have Down’s syndrome, or people that have suffered mental retardation, they’ll come into the meetings. The Lord told me this, He said they will sit under that glory and sit in that glory that will be in those meetings, and He said in two weeks they’ll be completely healed; their mind will be completely restored to them.
So we shouldn’t fret or give up if healing doesn’t take place immediately. The key is to maintain an atmosphere of holiness—where we are one with Christ and one with each other, 24/7—and then bask in the glory of God, which will be there because: “Draw near to God, and He’ll draw near to you” (James 4).
The angels and God, the HOLY Spirit will draw near to us—as we are in Christ together—Jesus’ heart-cry for us in John 17!!!
And for right now, individually, It’s very exciting to me that not only does God draw near to us when we draw near to Him, but the angels do too. It’s not just a God thing; angels are involved also. Our own homes can be environments of healing—living in LOVE!
And especially when we get together, our own personal holinesses will become a group holiness, which will bring about the setting in which phenomenal miracles will take place—to the glory of God!
“Then the world will know….” (John 17)!
Praise God!
Jeff Fenske : )
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From: CNN
Conservative Christian leaders who believe the word “evangelical” has lost its religious meaning plan to release a starkly self-critical document saying the movement has become too political and has diminished the Gospel through its approach to the culture wars.
The declaration encourages Christians to uphold traditional marriage, as in this Massachusetts protest.
The statement, called “An Evangelical Manifesto,” condemns Christians on the right and left for using faith to express political views without regard to the truth of the Bible, according to a draft of the document obtained Friday by The Associated Press.
“That way faith loses its independence, Christians become ‘useful idiots’ for one political party or another, and the Christian faith becomes an ideology,” according to the draft.
The declaration, scheduled to be released Wednesday in Washington, encourages Christians to be politically engaged and uphold teachings such as traditional marriage. But the drafters say evangelicals have often expressed “truth without love,” helping create a backlash against religion during a “generation of culture warring.”
“All too often we have attacked the evils and injustices of others,” the statement says, “while we have condoned our own sins.” It argues, “we must reform our own behavior.”
“The vision must be followed by the venture.
It is not enough to stare up the steps – we must step up the stairs.”
– Vance Havner
[quoted in Douglas M. White, Vance Havner, Journey from Jugtown: A Biography (1977)]
“He who cannot forgive others
destroys the bridge over which he himself must pass.”
– George Herbert
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