Also, Kent discusses the firmament in Genesis, and how the Earth is of course a sphere here: (video) Creation Seminar 2 – The Garden of Eden (FULL) – Kent Hovind — If you combine increased air pressure, filtered sunlight and the stronger magnetic field you’d probably get Garden of Eden conditions
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9tApfDdZow
Dr. Kent Hovind with Edrique Visser – Debunking the Flat Earth Model – Part C
Over 1 million views!
James Perloff’s article: WHY THE CREATION-EVOLUTION DEBATE MATTERS
James’ book: Tornado in a Junkyard: The Relentless Myth of Darwinism
“A simple microscopic one-celled bacterium (R. Coli) contains DNA information units equivalent to 100 million pages of the Encyclopedia Britannica.”
“We’re supposed to believe bacteria became people, but by actual observation, no species of bacteria has even changed to another species of bacteria.” – James Perloff, transcribed by me
Interview starts at 5:00
“What’s wrong with Darwinism scientifically” starts at 18:00
GOD IS REAL: HERE’S THE PROOF — JAMES PERLOFF
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2jyF_XyTc8
The Elite Don’t Want You To Know: GOD IS REAL – Here’s the Proof.
“Some kind of light happened….”
“We can’t be messing around anymore.”
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Pastor Caspar McCloud Interview on the Shroud of Turin 2013
209 Seconds That Will Make You Question Your Entire Existence
It’s breathtaking to consider:
You have two eyes, each composed of 130 million photoreceptor cells. In each one of those cells, there are 100 trillion atoms – that’s more than all the stars in the Milky Way galaxy!
Yet some still think it happened by chance.
Macroevolution is not science.
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The Genesis flood was about 4,500 years ago — age fits perfectly!
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[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efcJEIV2RAk]Evolutionists Date Rocks & Fossils with Circular Reasoning – Dr. Kent Hovind
Published on Apr 4, 2014
Dr. Hovind shows clearly through writings and admissions by evolutionists that the millions of years dating of rocks and fossils is based on circular reasoning. Faulty radiometric dating came along long after the ages for the rock layers and index fossils were set.
This clip is an excerpt from Dr. Hovind’s creation science seminar 4, titled Lies in the Textbooks. Watch that entire video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82F93… or purchase on DVD here:http://store.creationtoday.org/index/… or get the entire 9 DVD series athttp://store.creationtoday.org/kent-h…
Key points at minute-5:
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVYw3PPlcLo]Rant 19 – Potassium Argon Dating Proves Old Earth
Uploaded on Jun 20, 2011
Kent Hovind shows how Potassium Argon dating has many fatal flaws.
{–Since many of my individual videos do not explain why evolution is imagination, I will post the links here: Evolution is scientifically IMPOSSIBLE — the ultimate disproof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNdhAY… ; why there is no mechanism to make entirely new genetic information (thus, evolution would be impossible): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_8v3U… ; why the earth was created ex nihilo:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUPFRR… ; and why radiometric dating is a fallacy:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTrXa6…}
“My congratulations to Mr. Perloff for an outstanding piece of work.” — ACTOR JACK LEMMON, WHO PLAYED CLARENCE DARROW IN THE 1999 FILM VERSION OF INHERIT THE WIND
Tornado in a Junkyard: The Relentless Myth of Darwinism, by
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“Mutations always delete information from the genetic code.”
“Cells are far too complex to be originated by chance.”
“The human immune system, human vision and other systems are irreducibly complex.”
Billions of fossils, but no transitional forms — “the missing links are missing.”
“Why aren’t these creatures evolving into each other today?”
Fraudulent claims disproven but still in text books.
“On a molecular level, fish are not the close cousins of amphibians, as Darwin’s theory claims.”
“A lot of people don’t want to be accountable to God.”
Darwin did not recant his views on his deathbed.
– James Perloff
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaI72902vrQ
Evolution or Creation
Published on Mar 2, 2014
During the evolution of blood clotting or coagulation did evolution seek help from the creator? James Perloff explains it all in two of his books: “Tornado Through A Junkyard” and “The Case Against Darwin”. The former is highly technical and the later is an overview. Actor Jack Lemmon, who played Clarence Darrow in the 1999 film version of Inherit the Wind: “My congratulations to Mr. Perloff for an outstanding piece or work.” Perloff explains why “Monkeys Can’t Type Shakespeare” and why the fossil records fails to support Darwin’s theory. His books should be required reading for the Public Schools and Homeschoolers! Mr. Perloff also wrote “The Shadows of Power” and “Truth Is A Lonely Warrior”.
Show Info 3-04-2015 – News, Guest James Perloff
Second Hour Guest
In the second hour JD is joined by author, researcher and historian James Perloff, for an in depth discussion about Darwin’s theory of evolution and the ramifications of using it as the framework through which we view the world. …
James investigates the global elites agenda to create a new world order through their use of media manipulation, false flag narratives and fictional humanitarian crisis. He uses historical reflection to show that these tactics of control have been used to foment war.
Website: http://www.jamesperloff.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/jamesperloff
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Shadows-of-Power-James-Perloff/365367626890588
Articles: Did the Cold War End So that the War on Terror Could Begin?, The American Revolution, Part I: The Secrets Buried at Lexington Green, A Century of Mainstream Media Lies, Pearl Harbor: Roosevelt’s 9/11.
Books: Truth Is a Lonely Warrior, The Shadows of Power, and Tornado in a Junkyard.
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The Paluxy fossil human footprints – Genesis Week, special episode #33, season 2 Ian Juby Wazooloo
Published on Apr 26, 2013
http://genesisweek.com
http://christianima.com
In this special edition of Genesis Week, we examine the Paluxy fossil human footprints and interview Dr. Carl Baugh, founder of Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas, whose life was radically changed when he discovered fossil human footprints among dinosaur tracks in the Paluxy.
Complete transcript available here: http://ianjuby.org/newsletter/?p=657
Random References:
Creation Evidence Museum:
http://creationevidence.org
And David Lines’ YouTube channel which hosts CEM’s videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7RJG…
“In quest of the African Dinosaur,” Dr. Louis Jacobs, page 261
Dr. Don Patton’s exhaustive page on his research on the Paluxy tracks:
http://bible.ca/tracks
CT scans of the “Delk Track”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXDBX9…
http://wazooloo.com
http://ianjuby.org
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How much energy does the Sun produce in a single second?
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[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KW4Z65xl8I]Pancake Illustration (God is Crazy Big) – Francis Chan
Francis Chan uses a pancake to illustrate just how big God and the solar system are.
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The Universe is Young — Evidence from Space, Earth, Biology & History
The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth
Give God Glory! How much energy does the Sun produce in a single second?
How much energy does the Sun produce in a single second?
Total Energy of the Stars in the Universe!
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Ron Wyatt – January 1999: Ark of the Covenant Discovery
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The Physical Ashen Remains of Sodom & Gomorrah – Discovered by Ron Wyatt
Revealing God’s Treasure: Noah’s Ark Found by the Late Ron Wyatt
Louie Giglio: How GREAT Is Our GOD — The Heavens Proclaim the GLORY of GOD!
The current estimate is there are 390 billion galaxies, each having an average of 100 billion stars — our sun being an average sized star. And some think the universe may be infinite, because the more we improve our telescopes the more galaxies we see. What does that tell us about God, and how impossible this could have been done without God? Imagine the gravitational pull of all of that matter compressed before the “big bang,” before it shot out by chance, propelled by nothing.
I don’t understand the time-was-changed theory (proposed by some creationists), but the appearance of age theory makes the most sense to me: God “stretched out the heavens” in a day, just like he made the trees mature in a day too. Adam and Eve didn’t start out as an embryo either. God just made it and then that way. Nothing is too big or difficult for God.
Why can’t we accept God could have done with the universe and light if we accept He made 390 billion galaxies? It’s like limiting what God can do: “He could have made 390 billion galaxies, but couldn’t have done it all in a day, stretching them so light came to Earth from all of them right after He created them” — the universe completed all in 6 days, just like the Bible said.
This shows more of the greatness of God — how He is so far above our human understanding, and how His Word should be accepted, even when we don’t like or can’t fully comprehend what it says, like the way being really narrow and few finding it.
God isn’t meant to be fully understood this side of heaven, but what He says must be obeyed. We don’t have to understand it all, but we can be in awe, and fully submit: Abba Father. You are awesome, and I will follow you all the days of my life.
jeff
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From: Creationists.org
17 verses in the Bible state that God expanded
the size of the Universe from its original size.
What affect did that have on time, and on red and blue shift?
Seven books of the Bible reference this event starting from about 1000 BC in the book of Psalms, to about 518 BC in the book of Zechariah (a span of almost 500 years). This “stretching” of the universe was done during the creation week described in Genesis. Dr. Russell Humphreys suggests in his book Starlight and Time that it may have given the universe an older look the farther you move away from Earth into the outermost reaches of the universe. From Earth’s perspective, the universe would be about 6,000 – 10,000 years old. However, in the outermost reaches of the universe, this rapid expansion may have given those galaxies the appearance of being billions of years old, even though they aged that much in what is most likely less than 24 hours.
Current evolutionary thinking suggests that the universe is still expanding. This is based in large part of the belief that ‘red shift’ indicates that the stars and galaxies are moving away from each other. However, Isaiah 40:22 seems to suggest that this expanding of the galaxies was a one time event that occurred in a very short amount of time (probably in less than 24 hours), and that the expansion may no longer be occurring. Tents and curtains don’t keep expanding once they’re fully opened up. They are finite in size.
[It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
– Isaiah 40:22
Furthermore, none of these Bible verses appear to suggest that this expansion is still going on.
Do scientists really know what the impact would be of having the universe expanded at what was most likely millions or even billions of times faster than the speed of light? How would such a rapid expansion affect the visible red and blue shift we see today in space? How would that affect time, especially at the outer edges of the universe? Could the red shift that evolutionists believe indicates an expanding universe actually be the result of this rapid stretching of the universe that started and ended about 6,000 years ago?
Quotes below are from the King James Bible (KJV), and are listed in alphabetical order.
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The Universe is Young — Evidence from Space, Earth, Biology & History
The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth
Give God Glory! How much energy does the Sun produce in a single second?
How much energy does the Sun produce in a single second?
Total Energy of the Stars in the Universe!
Photo: God’s Universe: Our Milky Way–90° Panorama
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The Physical Ashen Remains of Sodom & Gomorrah – Discovered by Ron Wyatt
Revealing God’s Treasure: Noah’s Ark Found by the Late Ron Wyatt
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When it comes to science, Kent is AMAZING — so much so that evolutionists refuse to debate him. He would have smoked Bill Nye with FACT AFTER FACT in the recent debate with Ken Ham.
I wish Kent would be MORE CAREFUL in some of his jokes, though. And I totally disagree with him on once-saved-always-saved. My article.
Otherwise, Kent’s teachings are AWESOME and highly recommended!!!
Jeff
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[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQIF7Yh3hI]Creation Seminar 3 – Kent Hovind – Dinosaurs (FULL)
This is part 3 of Kent Hovind’s creation seminar. The title of this one is, “Dinosaurs”. To buy this or the whole seminar on DVD, go to: http://www.drdino.com …
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Louie Giglio: How GREAT Is Our GOD — The Heavens Proclaim the GLORY of GOD!
(video) Even Pat Robertson Attacks Creationism As A “Joke”
(video) Pat Robertson Cheating Comments: ‘Well, He’s a Man. Males Have a Tendency to Wander’
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Ken Ham: Oh, that God would convict and open the eyes of Christian leaders and Christian college and seminary professors, so many of whom are as uninformed and deceived as Pat Robertson. God have mercy.
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RWW News: Even Pat Robertson Attacks Creationism As A “Joke”
RWW Blog | Published on Feb 5, 2014
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content…
Right Wing Watch reports on the extreme rhetoric and activities of key right-wing figures and organizations by showing their views in their own words. In this video, Pat Robertson says he disagrees with Young Earth Creationism and considers it a “joke.”
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From: thetruthwins
44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults
By Michael Snyder
The theory of evolution is false. It is simply not true. Actually, it is just a fairy tale for adults based on ancient pagan religious philosophy that hundreds of millions of people around the world choose to believe with blind faith. When asked to produce evidence for the theory of evolution, most adults in the western world come up totally blank. When pressed, most people will mumble something about how “most scientists believe it” and how that is good enough for them. This kind of anti-intellectualism even runs rampant on our college campuses. If you doubt this, just go to a college campus some time and start asking students why they believe in evolution. Very few of them will actually be able to give you any real reasons why they believe it. Most of them just have blind faith in the priest class in our society (“the scientists”). But is what our priest class telling us actually true? When Charles Darwin popularized the theory of evolution, he didn’t actually have any evidence that it was true. And since then the missing evidence has still not materialized. Most Americans would be absolutely shocked to learn that most of what is taught as “truth” about evolution is actually the product of the overactive imaginations of members of the scientific community. They so badly want to believe that it is true that they will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their fairy tale. They keep insisting that the theory of evolution has been “proven” and that it is beyond debate. Meanwhile, most average people are intimidated into accepting the “truth” about evolution because they don’t want to appear to be “stupid” to everyone else.
In this day and age, it is imperative that we all learn to think for ourselves. Don’t let me tell you what to think, and don’t let anyone else tell you what to think either. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. The following are 44 reasons why evolution is just a fairy tale for adults…
From: wakeupcallnews.blogspot.com
Noah’s Ark Has Been Found. Why Are They Keeping Us In The Dark?
God wants us to be filled, but few ‘Christians,’ today, are willing to get clean highs from being in God, together. Jesus promised He’d give us His glory so ‘ONE’ can happen!! (John 17)
“And be not drunk with wine, in which is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.” (Eph. 5:18)
“I have spoken these things to you, that my joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be made full.” (John 15:11)
Most are settling for instant gratification, and in so doing are forfeiting their birthright. Jesus said we need to do whatever we have to so we don’t lust and lose our whole bodies in hell (Mt. 5:27-30).
“Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.” (Gal. 5:24)
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From: PBS.org
One of the questions we often get is, why do people take this drug? …
Methamphetamine effects the centers of the brain that control judgment, control reward, and control memory. The most important one probably are the reward centers of the brain. When, when that part of the brain is stimulated dopamine’s released, and you experience that as pleasure. Under normal circumstances those responses occur for naturally occurring rewarding events.
Similarly if you put a rat, a male rate in a box and you give him access to a receptive female, and you allow them to have sex, at the point where they experience orgasm you get a huge release of dopamine. You see an increase of about 200 units. This rush is what feels good and what is experienced is pleasure. And this slide of course illustrates the principle that one orgasm equals two cheeseburgers.
Now drugs of abuse release dopamine. Alcohol, for example, produced a release of dopamine from about 100 units to about 200, You get a similar magnitude of an effect with nicotine. Cocaine produces a huge release of dopamine, from 100 units to about 350 units, however the mother of them all is methamphetamine. Methamphetamine you get a release from the base level [about 100 units – editor] to about 1250 units. A tremendous increase of dopamine. This produces an extreme peak of euphoria that people describe as something like they’ve never experienced and they probably never have experienced before because the brain really isn’t made to do this. And that’s why people will be attracted to it and want to take it over and over and over again. They want to produce that response.
Entire Article with Video Here [The above information is demonstrated at minute-15]
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From: genesismission.4t.com
There are those who claim that the Bible says that the sun and the rest of the universe go around a motionless Earth. Some use this claim to mock the Bible. Some Christians have embraced the idea….
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The following verses are often use by Geocentrics to claim that the Earth does not move.
1 Chronicles 16:30. Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.
Psalm 93:1. The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is established, that it cannot be moved.
Psalm 96:10. Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously….”
The word “world:” in these verses is translated from the Hebrew word “tebel” [ Strong’s Ref. # 08398 ] and it means “the fertile and inhabited Earth.” It is likely referring to only dry land and not the Planet Earth. This is supported by the use of the same Hebrew word in geologic contexts that can only be a reference to dry land.
[…]
[…]
There are a total of 50 references to sun motion in the Bible, 46 of which are references to sunrise and sun set.
Ecclesiastes 1, 5: “The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.”
This verse is an excellent example of the sun’s motion as observed from the surface of the Earth and it is literally true from the observational perspective of the human author Solomon.
[…]
That leaves just 4 verses to deal with, and they are:
Joshua 10: 12. Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
This verse is part of the historic narrative of the conquest of the land of Canaan, and there is no reason to take this as referring to absolute motion. What Joshua wanted was extended daylight so that he could win a battle, to get it he asked God to stop the sun and Moon. He was not concerned with the sun and Moon’s absolute motion, but he wanted the sun to stay put in the sky, so that he would have enough day light to win the battle, and so he asked God to stop sun’s and Moon’s motion through the sky. In verse 12 Joshua asked God to do this based on what he would observe, and in verse 13, it describes God’s answer also from Joshua’s perspective. If God has switched frames of reference here the narrative would be needlessly difficult to understand. This view is supported by the fact that the second part refers to sun set, and such a reference can only be an observational description, so it logical to conclude that the entire verse is observational.
Thus this verses are shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves only three verses to deal with.
Habakkuk 3: 11. The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
This verse simply referes to the events of Joshua 10:12,13 and maintains the same observational language an so there no reason to consider this verse as refering to absolute motion.
Thus this verse is shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves only thwo verses to deal with.
Isaiah 38:8. Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.
This verse is a good scientifically described observation. It says that it went back 10 degrees and that it says that it did so relative to a specific observational device called a sun dial. Also the verse gives specific measurements; (10 degrees ), that combined with the reference to the observational device, shows that this is clearly an observational description.
Thus this verse is shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves only one verse to deal with.
Psalm 19:4-6 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.”
Geocentrics love to point out that is no place in the Bible that says the Earth orbits the sun or rotates, while this is true there is also no place in the Bible that says the sun orbits the Earth. The claim Psalm 19:4-6 says the sun orbits the Earth, but the claim does not stand up to objective scrutiny.
While this passage is little more difficult to interpret because of the clearly poetic and symbolic language, bit once again it is simply a description of the suns motion across the sky as seen by an observer on Earth. The first clue is the fact that there is no mention of the Earth, if God had intended to say the sun goes around the Earth, he could have simply said, his circuit is around the Earth or something similar but He does not. Verse 6 is describing the observed motion of the sun across the sky, and the use of the word circuit suggests the daily repeating this observed motion.
Thus these verses are shown not to be geocentric, and that leaves geocentrics with nothing. To see these verses as geocentric requires assuming that the Bible would only use absolute motion never use totally human observational descriptions. While the Bible is was written by God, He use human writer[s], writing to human readers, so it makes [sense] that God would use our perspective in referring to the relative motion of the Earth and sun.
Geocentrics seem [to] not understand the concept of relative motion. They think that relative motion is a case of … the observation being true from one view point and false from another but this is not the case. Relative motion involves describing something that is absolutely true from different perspectives. One time while flying I saw another plane go by my widow at about 1200 mph. Now it was absolutely true that the relative speed of the two planes was about 1200 mph, but while I saw that absolute truth as the other plane go by at about 1200 mph, a passenger in the other pane would have see my plane go by at about 1200 mph and an observer right below us would have seen both planes going opposite direction at about 600 mph each. Now all three of us would see the relative speed as about 1200 mph, that speed was an absolute truth, but we each saw it from a different perspective.
Applying this to the problem at hand, the absolute truth is that the sun and the Earth move relative to each other, but there are different ways of describing that relative motion and the Bible describes it from an Earth bound perspective.
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