Jesus prayed we'd be 'ONE' with each other in Him that the world will know! (John 17)

‘Fables’ taught by Mark Drake in Anchorage: Jesus didn’t really mean that we must ‘overcome’ in Revelation 2 & 3 = Steve Hill’s Lie #2, 3 & 5

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Abbott Loop has apparently joined the once-saved-always-saved camp — “the doctrine that’s bringing US down into the pit” and keeping us apart. But what does the Bible really say?

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

(music video) A taste of JESUS’ AGONY because His people have HURT SO MANY– Gary Clark Jr: When My Train Pulls In (Live at Farm Aid 2014) — What I experienced in an elders’ meeting (at Abbott Loop)

Someone needs to say something. Serious false doctrine is being taught at my home church in Anchorage. And in this message, Mark says he’s making Anchorage his home base from which to spread this false gospel that is keeping ‘ONE’ from happening — Jesus’ heart-CRY for us in John 17 — “that the world will know.”

Please be Biblical so God can move?

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“For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts; and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside to FABLES.” – 2 Tim. 4:3-4

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When Mark Drake says to ignore what Jesus clearly said about overcoming in Revelation 2 and 3, this is THE SPIRITUAL AVALANCHE Steve Hill is talking about. Mark Drake is snowing the people with Steve Hill’s Lies #2,3 & 5. Look especially at Lie #5:

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: The 7 Great Lies in the Church Today — Overemphasis of Prosperity • Exaggerated View of Grace (grace-changers nullify all divine warnings) • Antinomianism = against rules, so “anything goes” (but “Jesus didn’t set us free to sin; He set us free from sin”) • Gazing Upon Man, not God • Challenging the Authority of the Word (God didn’t really mean what He said) • Rejecting Hell • Universal Reconciliation

The challenging of God’s authority goes back to the Garden of Eden, starting with the serpent’s challenge to Eve: “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” (Gen. 3:1). This satanic challenge was twofold: First, did God really say that? And second, God didn’t really mean what He said. After all, you won’t die if you eat from the tree (vv. 1-5).

On May 5, 2013 at Abbott Loop Community Church, Mark Drake taught “Living Set Free: Galatians 3”. The podcast is available here. I transcribed this, starting at minute-45:

Be careful when you read the first few chapters of the book of Revelation, where it repeatedly says: ‘to him who overcomes will I do this,’ and’ to him who overcomes will I do that,’ because the temptation of the Devil is: ‘well you’re not overcoming everything yet, so you don’t get that.’

Well, I’ve got good news for you: there is an Overcomer Who has overcome, and if you’ve received Him by faith His overcomingness lives in you. I’m an overcomer because the Overcoming One lives in me.

Paul says the law has been fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled it. And if He fulfilled it and He lives in you the law has *already been fulfilled* in you. The righteous demands of the law were fulfilled by Jesus.

And because He is in me and I am in Him. [unintelligible] sitting around the dinner table at the last supper — ‘if you abide in Me and  I abide in You’

I am in Him and He’s in me — whatever He’s accomplished I get the benefit of….

But what did Jesus really say while “sitting around the dinner table at the last supper?” Jesus said: Only those who “keep My commandments will “remain in My love,” and they’ll bear much fruit. Those who don’t will be thrown into the fire and burned.

Abiding in Christ requires obedience. We must overcome!

Jesus in John 15:

Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can’t bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If a man doesn’t remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you. 8 “In this is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; and so you will be my disciples. 9 Even as the Father has loved me, I also have loved you. Remain in my love. 10 If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and remain in his love. 11 I have spoken these things to you, that my joy may remain in you, and THAT YOUR JOY MAY BE MADE FULL. 12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another, even as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friends, if you do whatever I command you.

Jesus really did say we must overcome in Revelation 2 and 3.

Revelation 3

1 “And to the angel of the assembly in Sardis write: He who has the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars says these things: “I know your works, that you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. 2 Wake up, and keep the things that remain, which you were about to throw away, for I have found no works of yours perfected beforeGod. 3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If therefore you won’t watch, I will come as a thief, and you won’t know what hour I will come upon you. 4 Nevertheless you have a few names in Sardis that did not defile their garments. They will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who OVERCOMES will be arrayed in white garments, and I will in no way blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Francis Chan on the lukewarm church in Revelation 3. “What does ‘spit out’ mean? … You can’t end your life lukewarm.” Just 3 minutes:

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I cover more of Jesus’ overcoming-required statements in Revelation in the first article, linked below.

And what Paul really said about who goes to heaven in Galatians is also shown, along with many other examples.

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Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.” — No one can refute this article

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The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?

How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

Charles Finney: ETERNAL SECURITY is a TICKET TO HELL — “If a person gets the idea that because he is converted therefore he will assuredly go to heaven, that man will almost assuredly go to hell

Charles Finney (1835): Instruction of Young Converts — “AIM AT BEING PERFECT. It should be their constant purpose to live wholly to God…. IF THEY SHOULD SIN it would be an inconsistency…. THEY OUGHT NOT TO SIN AT ALL; they are bound to be as holy as God is. And young converts should be taught to set out in the right course OR THEY WILL NEVER BE RIGHT

Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

(Video) Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved — Joe Schimmel (known for They Sold Their Souls for Rock N Roll – demolishes OSAS!

David Pawson on Paul and James: Paul was defending Gentiles from Jewish *works-of-the-law* legalism; James was defending Jews from Gentile license to sin. • When Paul says ‘works’ he means *works of the law,* but James means *actions*. • “Faith without actions cannot save you.” • FAITH + ACTIONS = SAVING FAITH!

The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled – John 10:27-29! — “Only those who are hearing and following Christ right now are his sheep

[ Video ] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security

The Believer’s Conditional Security : Eternal Security Refuted, by Dan Corner (801 page end-of-story book, but doesn’t cover who then does go to heaven, biblically)

[ Video ] Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

Why are WORSHIP SERVICES DEAD? God OPPOSES the PROUD, but He longs to give grace to the humble. ” • “THERE IS MIGHT and there is POWER and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!

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Rick Joyner: “REPENTANCE includes RESTITUTION for the wrongs that have caused injury to others

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: RECONCILIATION the KEY! — “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘I just hit my 34th person and I’m free!’”

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You

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[WordPower!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)

The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!

Rhydian Roberts: The Prayer — “Let this be our prayer WHEN WE LOSE OUR WAY. Lead us…guide us with your grace to A PLACE WHERE WE’LL BE SAFE” (Rhydian Roberts is Welsh, by the way)

Theme for the Third Great Awakening, Rhydian Roberts: Somewhere — “We’ll find a new way of living. We’ll find a way of forgiving – Somehow – Someday – Somewhere!” — ‘ONE’ Will Happen!!!!!!!

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6 Comments

  1. “Abbott Loop has apparently joined the once-saved-always-saved camp.” Mark Drake does not believe in “once-saved-always-saved.” You took a portion of a podcast and twisted it to mean exactly the opposite. I know Mark (and Josh Tanner the senior pastor) very, very well, and their teaching about eternal security. Have you ever talked to Mark about this? You should take this off of the internet. You are slandering not only Mark, but Abbott Loop Community Church as well, Jeff. This is an unfair, lie that you have posted which could stumble believers as well as unbelievers. Do you want that on your head? You are flat out wrong on this and should write an apology or take it off. This kind of idiocy does not show love or grow the Kingdom. My husband and I talked to you in the parking lot at ALCC when you were making these claims to anyone who would listen. We explained how you are wrong about this, encouraged you to talk to Mark and yet you leave this untruthful post that anyone searching for a good bible teaching church such as ALCC is likely to stumble upon.

    You are also lying to say ALCC is your home church. Maybe you could have claimed that back in the 80’s but certainly not in the last decade or even 2 decades.

    I hope my comments will be enough to encourage anyone reading this to think twice about believing what you write.

    Terri Phillips Hubble, ALCC member since ’87 to present.

  2. David Roediger

    Jeff, It seems to me that correct doctrine is something you seem to greatly value. Maybe you should start in Matthew 18:15-17. It seems that your working theology of “conflict resolution” needs some work.

  3. Anonymous

    Anyone who is interested in what I actually believe and teach, as opposed to what others may say I believe, feel free to ask me at askmark@abbottloop.org. I thoroughly enjoy responding to any sincere questions because they help me grow in my understanding. Mark Drake

  4. Paul RECONCILED. He worked out his own salvation through fear and TREMBLING*, running his race to win, making sure he was “always” right with God and people:

    “Herein I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” (Acts 24:16)

    * ‘Trembling’: the ‘fear of the Lord’ isn’t just ‘reverence’ — which most pastors perilously teach today.

    Paul in Romans 11:20-22 ..Don’t be conceited, but FEAR; for if God didn’t spare the natural branches [the Jews], neither will he spare you. See then the GOODNESS *and* SEVERITY of God. Toward those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, IF YOU CONTINUE in his goodness; OTHERWISE YOU WILL ALSO BE CUT OFF [like in Mt. 7:19 and John 15:6].

    “Let not many of you be teachers, my brothers, knowing that we will receive heavier judgment” (James 3:1), and there aren’t any judgments in heaven.

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