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[video] Ron Paul Highlights – CNN Tea Party Debate — Ron Paul is booed when mentioning fair treatment for Palestinians — and then says: “At the same time, we had been bombing and killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis for ten years. WOULD YOU BE ANNOYED? IF YOU’RE NOT annoyed then there is some problem.”

I wrote this for my ToBeFree site

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From: ToBeFree

I add this to the ‘Christians’ Trashing America category because you know that many of those booing Paul’s why-they-hate-US comment call themselves ‘Christians.’ Though Jesus said: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.”

There is no fear of God anymore — fear of not being a going-to-heaven, right-with-God-and-people Christian. The deception in these days is so great. The Bible says “the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,” and “where there is no vision the people perish.”

America is now so upside down when wrong is right. We abuse our might — which is fleeting.

One of my bumper stickers say: “If we don’t change directions we’ll end up where we’re going.”

The enemies are sharpening their swords. But Fox News is mum that they’re across the Pacific, not the Atlantic.

They’ll wait until we destroy ourselves further through more establishment-picked Presidents.

It’s time to get our act together now, especially spiritually.

The media is extremely biased, a big part of the problem, but when the people cheer for killing and torture (as in other Republican debates) and boo a sincere call for the ethical treatment of human beings, the writing is on the wall:

[100+ FREEdom Quotes] The Founding Fathers & Others: LIBERTY REQUIRES VIRTUE — “Without virtue there can be no liberty.” “Where licentiousness begins, liberty ends.” “History fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. There has been either a SPIRITUAL AWAKENING to overcome the moral lapse, OR a progressive deterioration leading to ULTIMATE NATIONAL DISASTER.”

We are now a sick nation by choice, willfully disobedient. So we will deserve the coming destruction — with a broken heart I sadly must admit.

All of the work so many of us have done, all of the warnings, the documentation, yet the people still don’t have enough integrity to admit they were wrong and stand up for what is right, now that our serious condition is even more obvious.

Last night, after being booed for talking about the ethical treatment of Palestinians, Ron said:

“At the same time, we had been bombing and killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis for ten years. Would you be annoyed? If you’re not annoyed then there is some problem.”

The fact that most are not annoyed is the problem.

A post from my spiritual site. This is for those of you who call yourselves Christians yet support a reverse-Christian foreign policy:

Andrew Strom: “USA POLITICS, RICK PERRY & the N.A.R” — Conservative Christians are trying to solve “SPIRITUAL” PROBLEMS with Politics — REVIVALS in America have always brought about the cleansing of the nation – NOT POLITICS !!! — Why do US Christians support WAR? I have never seen such confusion over patriotism and NATIONALISM being EQUATED with “CHRISTIANITY.”

Reverse-Christianity is responsible for the fall of America.

Booing Ron Paul shows how far we have fallen. This will be our demise.

Jeff

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6n51UEt1F4]Ron Paul Highlights – CNN Tea Party Debate

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‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”

[Photo] My Car: NOHATE — ‘Who Would Jesus Bomb?’ Edition

My ’95 Eagle Talon

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HATE EVIL — NOT PEOPLE
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Who Would Jesus Bomb?


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Love your neighbor
pre-emptively
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Ron Paul For President ’08
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Jesus Wept
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If we don’t change directions
we’ll end up where we’re going
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I’m for the Separation of
Church & Hate
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God Bless All Nations
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Perfect Love Casteth Out All Fear – 1 Jn 4 18
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MAY THE FORCE
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(Some may consider this new age,
but the Devil’s kingdom doesn’t work this way.

George Lucas understands:
Luke Skywalker only kept his power
if he didn’t hate!)
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Love One Another!
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Bless Them That Curse You – Luke 6 28
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On the roof:

Hate Free Zone
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On the hood:

LOVE > FEAR

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A Lesson From Star Wars — ‘The Conflict Within You’ | LUKE: “Father, LET GO of your HATE” • EMPEROR: “GIVE IN to your ANGER. With each passing moment YOU MAKE YOURSELF MORE MY SERVANT”

(video) 9/11 Lessons From Star Trek — KIRK: It exists on the *HATE of OTHERS* • SPOCK: Then all hostile attitudes on board must be eliminated • KIRK: Or we’re a doomed ship, traveling forever between galaxies, filled with eternal bloodlust, eternal warfare

Why 9/11? | Forgiveness is the Key to Repentance — “Do you not know that I lift My hand of protection when My people are far away?” (prophecy)

Vote For Peace – Ron Paul 2012 — “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God” – Jesus

‘Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’
says the LORD of hosts.

– Zach. 4:6

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For as many as are led by the Spirit of God,
these are children of God.

– Romans 8:14

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aoq99dSLEeQ]Vote For Peace – Ron Paul 2012

Uploaded by on Sep 7, 2011

In 2008, Barack Obama received much attention and affection for talking about bringing the troops home. We all now know that he had no intention of making good on his promise.

Ron Paul has stood against these wars from the beginning, and is the only candidate who would actually bring our troops home and begin to rebuild America’s image as a sovereign nation.

The sign as the end of the video can be found here: http://ronpaulswag.com/signs.html

Vote for Peace… Vote for Ron Paul!

[music video] David Rovics Sings “Who Would Jesus Bomb?” — “Maybe Jesus would show no compassion ~ For his enemies in the lands way over there…”

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0KzmoXvyek]Who Would Jesus Bomb?

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Who Would Jesus Bomb? Music by David Rovics.

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XYFp3xLyg]David Rovics Sings, “Who Would Jesus Bomb?”

Uploaded by on Mar 20, 2007

David Rovics sings his popular ballad, “Who Would Jesus Bomb?” He is a Boston-based singer and songwriter. Rovics appeared at the “Baltimore Speak-Out for Peace in Iraq” event. It was sponsored by the Baltimore United for Peace and Justice group. Virginia Rodino served as the Moderator. The affair was held at St. Vincent de Paul’s RC Church.

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Who Would Jesus Bomb?

by David Rovics

I’ve seen you in the markets
I’ve seen you in the streets
And at your political convention
Talking of your crusade
Talking of your nation
And other things too terrible to mention
And you proclaim your Christianity
You proclaim your love of God
You talk of apple pie and mom
Well I’ve just got one question
And I want an answer
Tell me, who would Jesus bomb?

Maybe Jesus would bomb the Syrians
‘Cause they’re not Jews like him
Maybe Jesus would bomb the Afghans
On some kind of vengeful whim
Maybe Jesus would drive an M1 tank
And he would shoot Saddam
Tell me, who would Jesus bomb?

I’ve seen you on the TV
And on the battleships
I’ve seen you in the house upon the hill
And I’ve heard you talking
About making the world safer
And about all the men you have to kill
And you speak so glibly
About your civilization
And how you have the moral higher ground
While halfway around the world
Your explosives smash the buildings
Ah, if you could only hear the sound

But maybe Jesus would sell land mines
And turn on his electric chair
Maybe Jesus would show no compassion
For his enemies in the lands way over there
Maybe Jesus would have flown the planes
That killed the kids in Viet Nam
Tell me, who would Jesus bomb

Yes I hear you shout with confidence
As you praise the lord
And you talk about this God you know so well
And you talk of Armageddon
And your final victory
When all the evil forces go to hell
Well you’d best hope you’ve chosen wisely
On the right side of the lord
And when you die your conscience it is clear
You’d best hope that your atom bombs
Are better than the sword
At the time when your reckoning is here

‘Cause I don’t think Jesus would send gunships into Bethlehem
Or jets to raze the towns of Timorese
I don’t think Jesus would lend money to dictators
Or drive those SUV’s
And I don’t think Jesus would ever have dropped
A single ounce of napalm
So tell me, who would Jesus bomb?

Fake Christian, Power-OVER, Rick Perry Physically Intimidating Blessed-are-the-Peacemakers, Power-Under, Ron Paul — During the break Perry walked up to Paul’s podium, physically grabbed Paul’s wrist, and pointed at Paul’s face with his other hand.

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[Want to get deprogrammed? Watch this video] Why The Rothschilds Are Destroying Libya — “If we sit by & watch these crimes against humanity & do nothing then we are complicit, & one day it will be our turn.”

WARNING & DISCLAIMER: I wasn’t going to post this because of the choice of language and “don’t pay taxes” recommendation at the end [it’s not worth it unless done legally]; though, I transcribed the good part.

I’ve heard from good sources that it is true that Kadafi is not responsible for PanAm 103. That was a false flag op designed to demonize Kadafi.

In saying that posting this video that shows the other side of the story, I’m not saying Kadafi hasn’t been bad in some ways. But even if he was mostly bad, even if most of what is said in this video is not true, what right do we have to take out leaders who oppose the one-world government?

We can’t say we have the right because Illuminati controlled Britain says it’s a-okay.

We’re digging our own grave by supporting our reverse-Christian foreign policy, which I believe is far worse than abortion. Aborted babies go to heaven. Where do you think we’re sending most of these human beings to — and the millions of others throughout the years, overtly and covertly? …especially because our BIG, power-over, REVERSE-GOSPEL message must be the biggest God turn-off imaginable — God repellent Made in the USA!

We have blood on our hands — lots!

Ron Paul is the only Presidential candidate that would stop abominations around the globe.

“It’s time to repent NOW!” We’re all going to see our Maker and we MUST be clean!

Power-OVER or power under?:

Greg Boyd: In the kingdom of God, we are not allowed to have any enemies. All body-bags are equally tragic.

The Rothschilds, world kingpins, worth $500 trillion! They own Reuters, AP, and fix the price of gold…

jeff

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“I cannot just sit by any longer & watch how individuals, groups, and countries are demonised & destroyed by our criminal governments — & then watch the media protect those responsible for crimes against humanity.”

“If we sit by & watch these crimes against humanity & do nothing, then we are complicit, & one day it will be our turn.”

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q11R56Y0Dx4]This video MUST go viral NOW.flv

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I believe LIBYA has given us an opportunity to see what our leaders are doing.

Help Lybia and in doing so help yourselves. green book http://www.geocities.com/Athens/8744/readgb.htm

[Excellent audio] Katherine Albrecht (Harvard Ph.D.) discovers God was right in what He told Paul to tell wives and husbands to do. Men want to be honored and women want to be loved and cherished. Then we’ll be happy and fulfilled!

Listen Here

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From: katherinealbrecht.com…

Sat., August 13, 2011

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Hour 2 ( Download the MP3 )

Gender Differences // Marriage //

Males and females communicate differently as shown by being able to tell your gender on Twitter.  Katherine covers this issue in the 12 Biggest Lies DVC.  So what do men and women want in a marriage?  Men to be honored, women to be loved and cherished.  A counselor recommended that men read The Exemplary Husband and women The Excellent Wife to provide a stronger marriage, particularly important in these troubling times and Katherine believes it is well worth it.

Researchers can tell your gender on Twitter

12 Biggest Lies DVD

Katherine in the 12 Biggest Lies DVD talking about gender differences

Katherine’s Show with Eric Bibb (hour 2)

The Exemplary Husband (Amazon)

The Execellent Wife (Amazon)

The New Economics of Marriage:  The Rise of Wives

Related:

Adrian Rogers on MEN and WOMEN: Celebrate the Difference — “God made us different that He might make us ONE.” It’s time to stop trying to be the be the same or resenting each other because of our differences.

Some ‘marriages’ can’t work because they’re not really marriages in God’s eyes:

My Theory on Divorce and ‘Marriage’: It’s time to get out of unbiblical ‘marriages.’ “God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers.” We must all be clean.

Clarifying my perspective on divorce and marriage: The role of the Holy Spirit

Katherine Albrecht: Katherine’s Faith Pulls Her Through Breast Cancer Scare | Apple’s Macintosh logo with the bite out of it — Isn’t this what Adam and Eve were not supposed to do?

Corrie ten Boom remembered: Katherine Albrecht interviews Pam Moore, Corrie’s caretaker. Corrie would say, today: “Are you ready? Are you at peace with God? Have you received the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior? Is He your Lord?” “Have you forgiven? Is there anybody you’ve not forgiven. God can help you forgive.”

All of my The Purpose of Feminism articles at ToBeFree in reverse chronological order

[video] Howard Storm: The Future of the United States — It’s not God’s fault…. We let Him down. He was ready…

This is beautiful —
from an atheist professor turned pastor
after a NDE.

We need to understand that God is for us.
He fully wanted us to overcome.

It’s not His fault….
His heart is grieved.

He has tried to get through to us,
and we have disappointed Him
because we have refused to listen.”

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Transcribed by Jeff Fenske:

“God has tried to get through to us…. We have been a big disappointment to God because we have just consistently refused to listen to God.”

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“As a pastor, people say ‘why does God allow this [evil]…. That question is predicated on a false assumption. God doesn’t want any of these things to happen. It’s all against God’s will. It’s our perverse nature, our sinful nature that allows these things to happen, that causes these things to happen. If we were following God’s will they wouldn’t be happening.

So we tend to ascribe to God all of the bad things that happen, and take responsibility for the good things that happen, when in reality it’s just the opposite.

God wants us to live in harmony with one another and in harmony with the creation. And the conflict and suffering we are experiencing in this world is of a human origin, not originated by God.

When Jesus came into the world it was a great opportunity for the whole world to find a new way of living and interacting with one another. And we all have failed.

And I would lay the greatest responsibility upon Christianity itself…. They were the ones that were given the clear transmission of what God’s desire was.

God is unhappy with humankind, unhappy with the way the world is going, unhappy with the way God’s beautiful creation is being treated. And God is intervening in a very direct way in the world today. And God and the angels are about trying to promote a spiritual awakening.”

“It was made clear to me this is it: ‘Wake up or the slate will be wiped clean.’ Now I’m not talking about the annihalation of the Earth. I’m talking about from a population of about whatever 260 million people the United States could go down to a population of a few tens of thousands.

We, the United States, who have been given the great blessing more than any other nation….”

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“They also told me that there is no sitting on the fence. You are either working for God’s good or you are opposed to God’s good.

To be indifferent to God’s good is to be opposed to it. There’s no middle ground in this, if you will, battle between good and evil. There’s nothing in between.

I would say that most people say ‘You know, I’m good; I’m not doing anybody harm.’ That’s not good. That’s evil. You have to be out there loving God, loving your neighbor, and living that if you’re really part of God’s plan for this world.”

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfy_R_OB7G4]The Future of the United States (Please watch, comment, rate!)

Uploaded by on Feb 1, 2009

In 1985, Howard Storm had a near-death experience. As an avowed atheist, he found himself bewildered by the fact that his physical body was laying on the hospital bed, and yet could move around outside of his own body. He was tortured and beaten up by beings before being saved by a huge ball of light, which he believed to be Jesus. Beings of light gave him a life review, and he learned the true path that is meant for humanity: love. These beings of light showed him many things including but not limited to: revelations about religion, the bible, extraterrestrial life, the future of the world, and the future of the U.S. This is an interview segment about the future of the United States.

The most radical change is that before his NDE he was a cold hearted atheist professor, and afterwards changed to a warm hearted Christian minister. Feel free to upload this video to your own accounts, as to get this guy’s incredible story out. More information about Howard Storm can be found on Wikipedia and a more vivid account of his story on near-death.com:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Storm
http://www.near-death.com/storm.html

Related:

“Let Us Be ONE” (A Prophecy — 2001-02, 2008)

Part 1: A Kindness that I Want to Flow From My Body

Part 2: Jesus’ Heart-Cry: “Let Us Be ONE”

Part 34: ‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/08/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On THE BOAT With YOU”

Ron Paul: Christian Just War Theory — “Evidently, I have been reading a different Bible. I remember something about ‘Blessed are the Peacemakers'”

Many related links, below.

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“Some of the strongest supporters of the war declare that we are a Christian nation, yet use their religious beliefs to justify the war. They claim it is our Christian duty to remake the middle east and attack the Muslim infidels.

Evidently, I have been reading a different Bible. I remember something about ‘Blessed are the Peacemakers.'”

– Congressman Ron Paul, freedom fighter!

Ron Paul: Christian Just War Theory

Uploaded by on Apr 5, 2009

Ron Paul explains the just war theory of Christianity.

The Revolution continues…

http://www.campaignforliberty.com

Related:

Rand Paul: Some ‘Christians’ are “Too Eager for War” — “Jesus stood up in a different sort of way … ‘Blessed are the peacemakers’ not ‘blessed are the war-makers’”

Ron Paul’s Biggest Eye-Opener: ‘Christian’ Evangelicals Pushing Preemptive War in the Name of Spreading Christian ‘Love’

(video) Ron Paul Booed by Reverse-Christian Debate Audience for Endorsing the Golden Rule

EVANGELICALS’ LEGACY: Biggest WARMONGERS! – 2005-6 Gallup Poll: Protestants and Frequent Churchgoers Most Supportive of Iraq War — Least supportive are non-Christians and people with no religion

(audio/video) Was Jesus Booed In SC? Debate Reaction On The Robert Scott Bell Show 1/17/12 | Ron Paul Booed by ‘Christian’ Conservatives for Endorsing the Golden Rule

Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!

[2011] Ron Paul’s Statement of Faith

‘Just War’ Doctrine Abandoned in America — U.S. Foreign Policy Now Reverse-Christian

Just War and the Iran Crisis

Three Questions for Memorial Day: (1) Can we remember without attributing reasons for war that aren’t in fact the real reasons? (2) Can we remember the innocent victims of war even as we remember those who died while fighting? (3) Can we remember without the “us versus them” factor? — Perhaps if all who died were commemorated…

Chuck Baldwin: Why Do Evangelicals Ignore Ron Paul? | My Opinion

Chuck Baldwin: What Does John Hagee Really Want? — “These WARMONGERING EVANGELICALS beat the war drums; they encourage the young men from their churches to go off and fight these ‘holy’ wars; they WORK TIRELESSLY TO ELECT PRO-WAR POLITICIANS…. Then, the politicians … send the US military to invade, bomb, and KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people, the vast majority of whom are innocent people. … ANIMOSITY against the United States is GROWING EXPONENTIALLY; in an effort to keep our country at war, our ECONOMY is being overburdened and overtaxed TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN; in the name of the “War on Terror,” America is on the verge of becoming a giant POLICE STATE; we are INCITING CHINA AND RUSSIA INTO NUCLEAR WAR; and America’s military VETERANS are KILLING THEMSELVES more frequently than are enemy bullets”

Ron Paul: “I’m supporting Chuck Baldwin” & “the most difficult group to recruit has been the evangelicals who supported McCain and his pro-war positions”

The Amazing Ron Paul: Bribe Money — “Wars should not be covert or casual. We absolutely should not be paying off leaders of a country while killing their civilians…. This is not what America is supposed to be about.”

Pat Buchanan: “On foreign policy … Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are on opposite sides completely.” What would Jesus do?

Sarah Palin demonstrates why most evangelicals dissed Ron Paul, who wanted to bring the troops home. ‘Christians’ have two sets of books: one for US and one for THEM (“who don’t deserve rights”). THEY’re not our ‘neighbor’ whom Jesus commanded US to love as much as ourselves. Maybe that’s why most evangelicals refuse to investigate 9/11. If THEY didn’t take down the towers…???

Ron Paul on Evangelical Christians Expected to Be Pro-War All the Time

Ron Paul on what precedes LIBERTY: Life “and I mean all LIFE!”

Ron Paul: “Fascism Comes Wrapped In A Flag, Carrying A Cross”

Ron Paul: Jesus is the Prince of PEACE, Not Preemptive War

Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!

Ron Paul Speaks To The Right To Life Foundation

Ron Paul at the Faith & Freedom Coalition Conference: “Life does begin at conception.” — We would like to think all we have to do is elect the right politicians and everything is going to be okay. But the government is a reflection of the people. The people change before the laws change. Morality has a lot to do with legislation.

Lew Rockwell: The Enemy is in Washington. That’s why RON PAUL runs NOT FOR GLORY, not for POWER, not for CONTROL. He runs to dismantle the aperatus in Washington. He wants to stop the war, stop the Fed’s counterfeiting, stop the rip-offs for the big bank, the big corporation, and for Big Pharma.” | CAN RON PAUL WIN? CAN THE ‘CHRISTIANS’ put their DESIRE FOR BLOOD below their desire to have some kind of standard of living…?

“Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS” Ron Paul: Well meaning church people are keeping the “war on drugs” [the war against the CIA’s competition] going, which helps finance the dark side of our government — our own demise!

Vote For Peace – Ron Paul 2012 — “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God” – Jesus

[Repentance from Power-OVER music video] Golden State: Bombs (End This War/The Ron Paul Song) — “It’s not impossible that we can end this war / Just let your heart explode / It’s not to late for a miracle! — No more lying; No more sighing; I’m still trying, Arms wide open!” | Lets’ be real Christians — “Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS, for they shall be called CHILDREN OF GOD” – Jesus

[Daily Paul comment] The real reason evangelical ‘Christians’ won’t support Ron Paul — “the so called evangelical right wing’s incredible and insatiable lust for war. War is not a family value. War is certainly not a Christian value. … Christ’s views on love and peace and so forth are pretty clearly spelled out. … Many professing Christians will be numbered with the goats on judgement day.”

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Sean Stone (Oliver Stone’s son): Should the United States Bomb Iran? Sean Stone returns from Iran — ATTACKING IRAN COULD MAKE THINGS WORSE for ISRAEL!” href=”http://tobefree.press/2012/03/24/video-sean-stone-oliver-stones-son-should-the-united-states-bomb-iran-sean-stone-returns-from-iran-to-discuss/” rel=”bookmark”>

Sean Stone (Oliver Stone’s son): Should the United States Bomb Iran? Sean Stone returns from Iran — ATTACKING IRAN COULD MAKE THINGS WORSE for ISRAEL!

[Video] 60 Minutes: Meir Dagan, former Israeli CHIEF of MOSSAD tells Lesley Stahl that an AIRSTRIKE anytime soon AGAINST IRAN is premature and COULD LEAD TO *DISASTER*!

Greg Boyd: In the kingdom of God, we are not allowed to have any enemies. All body-bags are equally tragic.

Sarah Palin: U.S. Troops in Iraq Doing God’s Will — “A Task that is From God”

Can Sarah Palin be a real, going-to-heaven Christian?

What is Anchorage’s new statue sitting there thinking? “Why does Alaska still support Sarah Palin, the OPPOSITE OF RON PAUL on foreign interventionism?” — & — “Why did ‘Christians’ in this town vote for George W. Bush, the OPPOSITE OF JESUS on foreign interventionism, TWICE?”

John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran

Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘A God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace’

My observation: Satan is using US to take out regimes that oppose his one-world government/anti-Christ reign. Be on God’s side. Don’t follow the crowd; follow Jesus. “Come out from them and be separate,” says God. Be holy. Let’s love!

Alex Jones: Qaddafi is another tyrant the globalists can’t control, so they’re going after him. The globalists are running the whole world and mopping up the final few countries they don’t control. They’re knocking over the old puppets, putting new ones in.

EXCELLENT! Cynthia McKinney: Obama’s So Called Humanitarian Aid to Libya is A Disaster: “The American people are being lied to.” Kadafi was standing in the way of a globalist, Mediterranean states alliance with Europe.

Ron Blessed-are-the-PEACEmakers Paul: U.S. War On Libya Totally UnConstitutional | Jesus: Peacemakers = “Children of God”

Col. Bob Bowman: The immorality they’re foisting on this country — We haven’t been the good guys for a long time. The countries we’ve invaded happen to be the few countries in the world that are not part of the Rothschilds’ banking cartel.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Will Evangelicals Ever Admit They Were Duped by Bush?

Reverse-Christian George W. Bush: ‘D___ right’ I personally ordered waterboarding — When will evangelicals admit they were wrong, voting for this known Skull and Bonesman for even his 2nd term?

[Reverse-Christianity] Torture and the American Conscience: Most white ‘Christian’ evangelicals and white Catholics condone torture

President Bush — “Bad Fruits versus Good Fruits” List

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

The Boot-Camp Factor: The Hate & Anger Factory Where Men are Programmed to Kill and Then Become Our Dads?!! Our Pastors?!!!

Michael Franti: Bomb the World (”Power to the Peaceful!”)

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

HeartQuotes: Peace

“First keep the peace within yourself,
then you can also bring peace to others.”

Thomas A Kempis

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Gandhi?: “I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

“I like your Christ;
I do not like your Christians.

Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

– Mahatma Gandhi

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Since posting, I have found that some dispute that Gandhi said this. I found the following:

I can’t find any source for him stating the quote as such. I did find a book, The Knights Templar & the Protestant Reformation, which states that when Stanley Jones, a missionary met with Ghandi he asked him:

Mr. Gandhi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?

Gandhi replied:

Oh, I don’t reject Christ. I love Christ. It’s just that so many of you Christians are so unlike Christ.

The book seems to have a reference, although I can’t check what it is as the references page is not on Google Books.

The quote seems to be from the book Mr. Gandhi, the man by Millie Graham Polak although the book is not viewable online.

Searching the book for the first part of the passage quoted in the knights templar book, “Is Mr. Gandhi a Christian?” returns a hit, although searching for “stanley jones” or “reject christ” does not.

In The Christ of the Indian Road by E. Stanley Jones, Stanley Jones asked Gandhi how to naturalize Christianity into India. Gandhi replied in part:

I would suggest first of all that all of you Christians, missionaries and all begin to live more like Jesus Christ.

This could be in part where the quote came from, if it was never said directly by Gandhi.

Given the amount of consistent references to the quote being said in reply to a question from Stanley Jones, I think it is likely something very similar to the oft quoted passage was said. I can’t find anything online that shows this for certain and don’t have access to the books where the quote may appear to check, so it’s hard to say for sure.

Dave A. responds in a comment to this post (below):

The information I have so far attributes the proximate statement in Stanley’s book to Bara Dada and not to Gandhi. I have a first edition copy of “Mr. Gandhi the Man” by Polak (1931) and I assure you that the Gandhi quote is NOT in that book. He speaks to his friend about his attraction to Christianity and the possibility of becoming Christian himself. His reasons for not doing so, he explains, have to do with his sense that he has found, in his “native” Hindu religion, all of the essential values that Christianity promotes. He is in a sense a universalist, believing that a path to God can be found in every major religion. There are no disparaging remarks about Christians in the book. Gandhi’s history is one of reconciliation and marshalling people from many faith communities to promote freedom and justice. That work began in earnest in South Africa, where he brought Christians together with other adherents for his social justice work.

Related:
Gandhi Used His Position To Sexually Exploit Young Women
As a teacher of nonviolence, Gandhi advocated the right to bear arms; use of ‘violence’ to defend innocents against bullying, oppression
Gandhi on Forgiving: “Nobody can hurt me without my permission”

My observation: Satan is using US to take out regimes that oppose his one-world government/anti-Christ reign. Be on God's side. Don't follow the crowd; follow Jesus. "Come out from them and be separate," says God. Be holy. Let's love!

Another war —
another opportunity
to get our hearts right.

“Love your neighbor
as yourself.”

– Jesus

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It is my observation that Satan has duped the American people
(including pastors who can’t biblically be ‘strikers‘)
to support wars that are taking out those governments
who would oppose the Devil’s one-world government,
anti-Christ reign.

The proof is at ToBeFree!

Wake up
and don’t cut your own throat!

“Come out from among them and be separate.”

Be on God’s side,
not Satan’s.

Don’t follow the crowd.
Follow Jesus,
directly.

Be led by the HOLY Spirit.

Jeff Fenske

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“Blessed are the (true) peacemakers.
They shall be called children of God.”

Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they shall see God.

– Jesus

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Do you want to go to heaven?

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“Those who are led by the Spirit
are the Children of God.”

– Paul

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Not by might,
nor by power,
but by by My Spirit….”

– God

Related:

Alex Jones: Qaddafi is another tyrant the globalists can’t control, so they’re going after him. The globalists are running the whole world and mopping up the final few countries they don’t control. They’re knocking over the old puppets, putting new ones in.

EXCELLENT! Cynthia McKinney: Obama’s So Called Humanitarian Aid to Libya is A Disaster: “The American people are being lied to.” Kadafi was standing in the way of a globalist, Mediterranean states alliance with Europe.

Ron ‘Blessed-are-the-PEACEmakers’ Paul: U.S. War On Libya Totally UnConstitutional | Jesus: Peacemakers = “Children of God”

Col. Bob Bowman: The immorality they’re foisting on this country — We haven’t been the good guys for a long time. The countries we’ve invaded happen to be the few countries in the world that are not part of the Rothschilds’ banking cartel.

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Ron Blessed-are-the-PEACEmakers Paul: U.S. War On Libya Totally UnConstitutional | Jesus: Peacemakers = "Children of God"

Jesus in Matthew 5

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the gentle,
for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness,
for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

10 Blessed are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

11 “Blessed are you when people reproach you,
persecute you,
and say all kinds of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad,
for great is your reward in heaven.
For that is how they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC07ykFMXyM]Ron Paul’s Texas Straight Talk 3/14/11: No-Fly Won’t Fly Constitutionally

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Last week we once again heard numerous voices calling for intervention in Libya. Most say the US should establish a “no-fly” zone over Libya, pretending that it is a benign, virtually cost-free action, and the least we could do to assist those trying to oust the Gaddaffi regime. Let us be clear about one thing: for the US to establish a “no fly” zone over all or part of Libya would constitute an act of war against Libya. Establishing any kind of military presence in the sovereign territory of Libya will require committing troops to engage in combat against the Libyan air force, as well as anti-aircraft systems. The administration has stated that nothing is off the table as they discuss US responses to the unrest. This sort of talk is alarming on so many levels. Does this mean a nuclear strike is on the table? Apparently so.
In this case, I would like to make sure we actually follow the black letter of the law provided in the Constitution that explicitly grants Congress the sole authority to declare war. This week I will introduce a concurrent resolution in the House to remind my colleagues and the administration that Congress alone, not the president, decides when to go to war. It is alarming how casually the administration talks about initiating acts of war, as though Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not exist. Frankly, it is not up to the President whether or not we intervene in Libya, or set up “no-fly” zones, or send troops. At least, it is not if we follow the Constitution. Even by the loose standards of the War Powers Resolution, which cedes far too much power to the president, he would have no authority to engage in hostilities because we have not been attacked — not by Gaddafi, and not by the rebels. This is not our fight. If the administration wants to make it our fight, let them make their case before Congress and put it to a vote. I would strongly oppose such a measure, but that is the proper way to proceed.
Constitutional questions aside, Congress also needs to consider the interests of the American people. Again, we have not been attacked. Whatever we may think about the Gaddafi regime, we must recognize that the current turmoil in Libya represents an attempted coup d’etat in a foreign country. Neither the coup leaders nor the regime pose an imminent threat to the United States and therefore, as much as we abhor violence and loss of life, this is simply none of our business. How can we commit our men and women in uniform to a dangerous military operation in Libya when they swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution? We must also understand that our intervention will undermine the legitimacy of whatever government prevails in Libya. Especially if it is a bad government, it will be seen as our puppet and further radicalize people in the region against us. These are terrible reasons to put our soldiers’ lives at risk.
Finally we need to consider the economic cost. We don’t have the money for more military interventions overseas. We don’t have the money for our current military interventions overseas. We have to rely on the Fed’s printing presses and our ability to borrow from China to fund these wars. That alone should put an end to any discussion about getting involved in Libya’s civil war.

[posted at ToBeFree] We act like we're not, but we are responsible . . . . Here is just one of the many examples of America's POWER-OVER-human-beings policy: We all helped suppress the Egyptians — half live on less than $2 a day. Our taxes have been used to arm, fund and fuel this dictatorship. The tear-gas canisters . . .

We all helped suppress the Egyptians — half live on less than $2 a day. Our taxes have been used to arm, fund and fuel this dictatorship. The tear-gas canisters fired at pro-democracy protesters have “Made in America” stamped on them!

We even kidnap citizens in their own countries, and send them to Egypt for interrogation and torture!
And the main reason most American ‘Christians’ don’t really care is because of the once-saved-always-saved doctrinal heresy. Being “in Christ” no longer means being in Christ.
We were supposed to be salt and light: The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit?
What goes around comes around. We can fool ourselves, but we can’t fool God. There is a reason why He stays at a distance these days.
Paul in Galatians 6:

7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. 9 Let us not be weary in doing good, for we will reap in due season, if we don’t give up.

Related:
All 70 of my Why they hate US posts at ToBeFree

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are Biblically disqualified

“Herein I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”

– Paul in Acts 24:16

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1 Timothy 3
King James Version

1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop [overseer – WEB], he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop [the overseer – WEB] then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker [including warmongering – editor], not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree [For those who have served well gain for themselves a good standing – WEB], and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1
King James Version

4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: 6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. 7 For a bishop [the overseer – WEB] must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre [not greedy for dishonest gain – WEB]; 8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; 9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

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Notice how blameless is used here:

Philippians 2

14 Do all things without murmurings and disputes, 15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you are seen as lights in the world, 16 holding up the word of life….

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Blameless and holy must at least mean that overseers are going-to-heaven Christians, which means they must be in the Galatians-5 “Those who are Christ’s” list and not in the “will not inherit the Kingdom” list.

Galatians 5

13 For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don’t use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, be careful that you don’t consume one another. 16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one other, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

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They must walk according to the Spirit to be in Christ, and led by the Spirit to be a child of God:

Romans 8

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.

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Can’t be a liar

Revelation 21

8 But for the cowardly, unbelieving, sinners, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

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No root of bitterness

Hebrews 12:14-15

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;

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Pure in heart [demon-free heart?] and a peacemaker

Matthew 5

8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called the children of God.

Leaders must reconcile — always having a clear conscience before God and men (as did Paul – Acts 24:16) and Jesus says in Matthew 5:23-24:

If therefore you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has anything against you, leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.

An overseer “must be blameless”: right with God and all people — having a clear conscience — “no condemnation,” walking according to the Spirit, not according to the flesh.

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I wrote in January of 2011:

Most overseers are currently biblically disqualified.

Making sure overseers are biblically qualified will bring in real Christianity, which will be real revival!

A whole lot of healing needs to go on. “It’s time to repent.”

Let us be ONE!

Jeff Fenske
Anchorage, Alaska

: )

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Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!

[WordPOWER!] James – Demons WITHIN drive ‘Christians’ to curse people. “If you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition IN YOUR HEART” you’re probably a James-3 curser. If so, “don’t lie against the truth.” Instead, be a PEACEMAKER, “for they shall be called children of God” – Jesus

(prophecy) MANY CURSE Others From Their HURTS DEEP WITHIN — “Hate and anger breed impatience. This hurt destroys My body, giving death to many members … Let respect overrule impatience … Tell him you’re sorry. See him repent if he did you harm too”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

The Boot-Camp Factor: The Hate & Anger Factory Where Men are Programmed to Kill and Then Become Our Dads?!! Our Pastors?!!!

Is It Right: To Judge, To Expose Error & To Name Names?

Greg Laurie: Don’t Judge? — We are to judge, but we are not to condemn. In fact, a better translation of Matthew 7:1 would be: “Do not condemn others, and you will not be condemned.”

Naming Names? Is that Biblical?: Paul did — Those who teach “any other gospel” are “accursed” of God and to be marked

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “Let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned.”

The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?

The Sheep Stealers Rob the Sheep—Hypocrites Cannot Lead

Leadership: How it is Supposed to Be

Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent

Failed Churches — Hate that Destroys the Yoke of Unity

Many Curse Others From Their Hurts Deep Within

Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable”

‘Christian’ Leaders James-3 Cursing People Example: Jesse

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

Wes Hall to church leaders: “There’s a cry in your heart saying ‘I am not prepared to walk forward another step in dead works and dead religion”

Wes Hall: Many ministers weren’t even called into the ministry. “The reason you’ve gone to seminary is to prove to God…how dedicated you are.” • “Some of you should have been in ministry, and you went into business; and you tried to become the best you could to earn your father’s approval in the natural.”

My Theory on Divorce and ‘Marriage’: It’s time to get out of unbiblical ‘marriages.’ “God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers.” We must all be clean.

Clarifying my perspective on divorce and marriage: The role of the Holy Spirit

Ron Paul’s Biggest Eye-Opener: ‘Christian’ Evangelicals Pushing Preemptive War in the Name of Spreading Christian ‘Love’

Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

Francis Frangipane: Beware, It is Easy to Fake Christianity — “The moment we stop obeying God we start faking . . . .” “If our Christianity does not work in this life where we can test it, it is foolhardy to hope it will successfully transport us into eternity . . . if we fail the test, we suffer eternal separation from God.” “Let us re-examine what we have been taught.”

How CLEAN do our Hearts have to be from the Hebrews-12 root of bitterness that defiles many? Where is the place of SAFETY — RESTING, KNOWING for SURE we’re going to heaven? Selah …

[WordPOWER!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)

Steve Hill: Violent Revival — “Your salvation depends on your waging violent warfare against sin. … The violent man goes to war with his sins. He doesn’t make excuses for them, he annihilates them!”

When Billy Graham laughed to minimize Bill Clinton’s adultery
(video) Pat Robertson Cheating Comments: ‘Well, He’s a Man. Males Have a Tendency to Wander’

Francis Frangipane: Holiness Precedes Power | More of my experiences at Trinity and in the Vineyard Movement | Why did John and Chris Wimber die?

“A mature Christian will be both holy and powerful,
but holiness will precede power.”

– Francis Frangipane

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I read Holiness, Truth and the Presence of God, by Francis Frangipane during the Vineyard Movement, when I first attended Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in ’89-90.
It was so much fun to attend the Evanston Vineyard (where I bought Francis’ book) — the presence of God and the peace that passes all understanding was so evident.
The fire spread to other students, and Professor Wayne Grudem was wonderfully also involved.
The effect this was having on the students greatly angered many of the cessationist adhering faculty members. There were us smiling students and then there were the eyes that looked away as we approached on the campus sidewalks. It was almost like in the days of Jesus, how he was hated by the religious leaders while saying “blessed are the peacemakers.”
Some of the faculty even openly opposed the movement (writing papers), which died soon after I left, so that when I returned to Trinity a few years later things were back to dead-normal; though, TEDS did add a course finally in Systematic Theology on the person of the Holy Spirit: ST 5103 (603)!
When John Wimber and his son, Chris Wimber (head of Vineyard Music) physically died, I knew why: Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable” I knew why when John was sick and couldn’t figure out why. “Christians” can be so mean, diabolical!

[WordPOWER!] David in Psalm 38: “…neither is there any HEALTH in my bones because of my sin. … Those who SEEK MY HURT…meditate deceits ALL DAY LONG. … Those who HATE ME WITHOUT REASON…render evil for good…BECAUSE I FOLLOW WHAT IS GOOD.” — Check your HEART. Are you one of the James-3 cursers?

During the second time I studied at Trinity, I had a dream in which I was told that if I didn’t pray an hour a day (in tongues) that I wouldn’t make it. Here, God shows how this works: A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls). The gift discussed here is speaking in tongues, which unfortunately the Vineyard Movement largely ran from; even though, they embraced many of the other spiritual gifts, like healing and the word of knowledge. Had they embraced tongues, I think it’s probable that John and Chris would still be alive today. There is no doubt that John was hated fiercely by the old guard. Instead of admitting they were wrong, they James-3 cursed him. Many were Calvinists basically doing what their founder did:

John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake for Having Doctrinal Differences — His Ashes Cry Out!

Some of us saw Francis Frangipane and John Wimber speak (I think even Jack Deere was there, former professor Dallas Theological Seminary — Dallas excludes those who believe in the gifts) in a Chicago auditorium at a Vineyard conference during this time, including Wayne Grudem. I discuss some of this here:

“The Perfect Storm” by John Paul Jackson. What to expect in the next 10 years. To overcome, we must be right with each other: “You must have clean hands and not harmed others. And if you have, you must repent so that you can be clean” | My experience at Trinity.

In this post, I state a key reason why I believe the movement died — the introduction of tithing. They built a new building at their headquarters in Los Angeles. Prior to this, they taught the people to be led by the Holy Spirit in giving, determining in their hearts what to give, like Paul actually taught:

The Day that Tithing Ended—To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit

Another key reason the Vineyard Movement died is that John Wimber, himself was a Calvinist. Vineyard did not teach the truth about who goes to heaven: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
In the ’90s, when the worship music died, there was much sin in the camp and they were still trying to worship God in song. People sought the gifts and not the Creator. Though, in the late ’80s, there was a strong holiness emphasis, influenced to a great degree by Francis Frangipane’s book: Holiness, Truth and the Presence of God. And this is the main reason why God responded in signs and wonders during this period. The glory of God, His presence was so often evident.

May we get it right this time:

no tithing;

include tongues

and the truth about who goes to heaven.

jeff fenske
Anchorage, Alaska

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From: An email from Francis Frangipane

Holiness Precedes Power

Many Christians look for shortcuts to the power of God. To try shortcuts is to become, at best, frustrated; at worst, a false teacher or prophet. Listen very carefully: there is tremendous power for us in God but not without holiness. Holiness precedes power.

When John Saw Jesus

Then Jesus arrived from Galilee at the Jordan coming to John, to be baptized by him. But John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I have need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?” But Jesus answering said to him, “Permit it at this time; for in this way it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he permitted Him. After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.”        Matthew 3:13-17

Let us understand this prophet, John the Baptist. According to the Scriptures, John was filled with the Holy Spirit “while yet in his mother’s womb” (Luke 1:15). We are also told his coming was in the spirit and power of Elijah. Historians tell us that John’s penetrating, uncompromising ministry led nearly one million people to repentance. Vast multitudes left their cities and towns and went into the wilderness to hear the prophet and be baptized into repentance in preparation for the kingdom of God.

Only Jesus knew the fallen condition of the human heart more perfectly than John. No class of people escaped the Baptist’s judgment: soldiers and kings, sinners and religious leaders alike were all brought into the “valley of decision.” John’s baptism was more than a simple immersion in water. He required a public confession of sins as well as the bringing forth of righteousness (Matt. 3:6, 8).

Jesus testified that John was “more than a prophet.” He said, among those born of women, “there has not arisen anyone greater than John” (Matt. 11:9-11). John was a “seer prophet,” which meant he had open vision into the spirit realm. He testified that “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven” (John 1:32). He saw “the wrath to come” (Matt. 3:7). He witnessed “the kingdom of heaven” (v. 2). John had insight into the secrets of men’s hearts. His vision penetrated the veneer of the well-respected Pharisees; within their souls he saw a “brood of vipers.” Understand this about prophets: they are aware of things that are hidden from other men.

But when Jesus came to be baptized, before the heavens opened and the Holy Spirit descended, John saw something that was overwhelming even to his standard of righteousness. He gazed [into] Jesus’ heart, and he saw no sins, no lies, no lusts. John saw a level of holiness that, without knowing he was gazing at the Messiah, caused him to utter with astonishment, “I have need to be baptized by You” (v. 14).

Jesus, as the “Lamb of God” (John 1:36), was without spot or blemish. This is exactly what the prophet beheld in Jesus: spotless purity of heart. Christ’s virtue took John’s breath away! The powerful emanation of Christ’s inner purity made John immediately aware of his own need. When John saw Jesus, he discovered a level of righteousness that was higher, purer than his own. This great prophet looked into the heart of Jesus, and in the brightness of Christ’s holiness he cried, “I have need.”

And so it is with us. Each time we see Jesus, each successive revelation of Christ’s purity makes our need more apparent. As Christ’s holiness unfolds before us, we cannot but echo the same cry of John the Baptist: “I have need to be baptized by You!”

Yet, in the beginning of our walk, we embraced life in our own strength, trusting in our own skills for success and attainment. Yes, we turned to God, but mainly in times of grief or trial. However, as the Lord brings us into maturity, what we once considered strengths are actually discovered to be weaknesses. Our pride and self-confidence keep us from God’s help; the clamor of our many ideas and desires drown the whisper of the still small voice of God. Indeed, in God’s eyes, the best of human successes are still “wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked” (Rev. 3:17).

In time, we discover that all true strength, all true effectiveness–yes, our very holiness itself–begins with discovering our need. We grow weaker, less confident in our abilities. As the outer shell of self-righteousness crumbles, Jesus Himself becomes God’s answer to every man who cries for holiness and power in his walk.

We may think we have spiritual gifts, we may presume we are holy, we may rejoice with human successes, but until we see Christ and abandon our reliance upon our self-righteousness, all we will ever have, at best, is religion.

Oh, let us grasp this truth with both hands; let it never slip from us. Jesus Himself is our source of holiness! We are so eager to do something for Him–anything, as long as we do not have to change inside. God does not need what we can do; He wants what we are. He wants to make us a holy people. Let us not be anxious in this process. Allow Him to do the deep inner work of preparation. Jesus lived thirty years of sinless purity before He did one work of power! His goal was not to do some great work but to please the Father with a holy life.

Hear me; our goal, likewise, is not to become powerful but to become holy with Christ’s presence. God promises to empower that which He first makes holy. Do you want your Christianity to work? Then seek Jesus Himself as your source and standard of holiness. Do you want to see the power of God in your life? Then seek to know Christ’s purity of heart. If we are becoming the people Jesus calls His own, we should be growing in holiness. A mature Christian will be both holy and powerful, but holiness will precede power.

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The preceding article came from Pastor Frangipane’s first book, Holiness, Truth and the Presence of God. This book was recently re-published by Charisma House. Look for the new edition to be in stores March 1. However, we still have a number of the previous edition, which has the same content. If you are interested in this powerful classic, we are making the old version available for just $4.95. This is available on a first-come, first-served basis as quantities are limited.

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[video] Daniel Rodes: A Man Dedicated to God

UPDATE: For some reason, it looks like this video was removed.
If anyone knows where it still is online please let me know.
jeff
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This is excellent!
…but just scratches the surface.
I hope there are parts 2, 3, 4, 5 … !

Daniel is the real deal!
I’ve spent significant time with Daniel and Esther.
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Daniel Rodes

Some topics discussed:
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Daniel’s testimony
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Completely breaking addictions:

Grace doesn’t give you permission to sin.
It will help you over it.”
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Having a great marriage every single day
(he and Esther TOTALLY do):

“I’d rather not be married than to get the wrong one.”

“You [husbands] have to submit to God first.”
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Being filled with the Holy Spirit
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A clean heart
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Finances
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Watch 1-Hour Video Interview Here

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Apostle Daniel Rodes Interview Part 1
from Timothy Johnson on Vimeo.

An interview with Apostle Daniel Rodes that took place in Harrisonburg, VA in January of 2010.

The backstory of how Brother Rodes, who grew up in a conservative church setting, became a teacher, evangelist, pastor, prophet and apostle. Brother Rodes has travelled extensively throughout the world preaching and teaching the Word of God.

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Daniel’s Website:

Truth, Light and Life Ministries International
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Related:
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[Photo] Daniel Rodes and Me in Alaska
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Mom with Esther and Daniel Rodes
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Daniel Rodes Prophecy 2/28/09: What Will Happen to Our Little Ones?

Daniel Rodes’ 2003 prophecy: The Joy of the Lord —
“I want you to warn My children
that Deuteronomy chapter 28 verses 47 and 48 are about to be fulfilled.”
“We need to repent of our lack of gratitude
and turn to the lord with a heart full of joy and gladness.”

Reverse-Christians 'Pastor' Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin on Wikileaks exposures: KILL the messenger! — Instead of "Maybe we should admit where we've been wrong and apologize to our neighbors and be real Christians. WWJD? = What Would Jesus Do? | What Would Jesus Have US Do?

“Christians” are destroying the land of the free!

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“If my people, who are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways;
then will I hear from heaven,
and will forgive their sin,
and will heal their land.

– God
2 Cor. 7:14

America,
the unforgiven

From: The Guardian

US embassy cables culprit should be executed, says Mike Huckabee

The Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee has called for whoever leaked the 250,000 US diplomatic cables to be executed.

Huckabee, who ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination at the last election but is one of the favourites for 2012, joined a growing number of people demanding the severest punishment possible for those behind the leak, which has prompted a global diplomatic crisis.

His fellow potential Republican nominee Sarah Palin had already called for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to be “hunted down“, and an adviser to the Canadian prime minister has echoed her comments.

Huckabee said: “Whoever in our government leaked that information is guilty of treason, and I think anything less than execution is too kind a penalty.”

Tom Flanagan, a senior adviser to the Canadian prime minister, Stephen Harper, issued what has been described as a fatwa against Assange, on the Canadian TV station CBC.

“I think Assange should be assassinated, actually,” he said. “I think Obama should put out a contract and maybe use a drone or something.” Flanagan chuckled as he made the comment but did not retract it when questioned, adding: “I wouldn’t feel unhappy if Assange does disappear.”

Entire Article Here
Related (lots of reverse-Christianity here. We should be ashamed, instead of “Rah, Rah!”):
Paul Craig Roberts on ‘Pastor’ Mike Huckabee calling for Assange’s execution: “So here we have a ‘man of God’ calling for the US government to murder an Australian citizen. And Americans wonder why the rest of the world hates their guts.”
Pat Buchanan: “On foreign policy … Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are on opposite sides completely.” What would Jesus do?
Paul Craig Roberts: The Collapse Of Western Morality — “Americans will be the first people sent straight to Hell while thinking that they are the salt of the earth”
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
All of my Sarah Palin posts at ToBeFree
All of my Mike Huckabee posts at ToBeFree

David Bercot's CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About War — Jesus taught his followers to love their enemies. How literally did the early Christians take Jesus' teachings?

The evangelicals almost 100% support for what have proven to be immoral wars is totally reverse-Christian.

We really need to get right in our hearts in this issue for real Christianity to happen among us — to be safe in God — to have the world’s respect — and so God will be glorified through His people who are finally respectable.

“Then the world will know,” Jesus said in John 17 — when we become one with each other in Himself!

I will say that I don’t totally agree with Bercot on pacifism though. We need to be led by what we know in our heart is right — keeping step with the Holy Spirit. And angry/unforgiving people (most American ‘Christians’?) are going to have a hard time hearing from God in this area. I do believe there is a place to defend people and even countries, but we’ll know it’s right when if this time would come.

Most wars are not just wars, especially Bush War I and Bush War II. Did Afghanistan or Iraq attack us? And what ever happened to forgiving, instead of revenge? Maybe if Christians would forgive the Muslims they’d be more interested in researching what really happened on 9/11. Jet fuel cannot take down steel buildings. The proof is at my other main site, ToBeFree. The ‘church’ has been had, duped, so that they’re complicit in these huge attrocities! And now they’re even going through the naked body scanners?!!

We need to really re-assess this important subject, especially since Sarah Palin, John Hagee, and others are insisting we nuke Iran without even knowing for sure Iran has nukes! And they totally ignore our long, dark history in manipulating Iran’s government covertly. To many evangelicals, humbling ourselves, apology and discussion isn’t even an option. We solve everything through power-over: WAR verses What Would Jesus Do? and what would the Holy Spirit have us do?

And Sarah and John don’t even call Israel to apologize for their pride and arrogance in their numerous and egregious inhumane atrocities, partly from their lack of willingness to forgive too.

Now we are our own gods. We do our own thing. “We don’t need the Holy Spirit to lead us for we have the Bible” — and we have nukes!

I saw a John Hagee conference in which many famous evangelical leaders and I think even some politicians attended. The singers sang “Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit,” while John led this “bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” rally.

Hagee might as well be singing: “I did it MY WAY.” Strikers are disqualified from being church leaders according to Paul’s overseer qualifications in 1 Timothy and Titus, by the way.

And soon it may be “bomb, bomb, bomb America.” God won’t save a people who reject His leadership.

What goes around comes around. We reap what we sow.

Maybe Israel deserves getting bombed, for what they’ve done so hatefully to others. And maybe we do too for our unrepentant covert and overt operations/manipulations in God’s name over many decades! Ever thought of that? If we get nuked or EMP’d, who is to blame? We certainly don’t deserve God’s protection at this point. Does Israel?

It was God’s will that Assyria and Babylon conquered Israel and took them into captivity because they had stubbornly ignored His leading. Consider this, part 6 of my “Let Us Be ONE” prophesy: “I lift My hand of protection when My people are far away.”

Why 9/11? | Forgiveness is the Key to Repentance

10/3/01

There is fear in My people—a fear that is great. You need not dismay, for I am with you. I am in everything you do, non-stop. I never cease.

Feel My hurt, imagine the pain, when you go your own way. I am in you, waiting. Let’s be one. Let’s do it.

There is another thing: a disaster has struck. People have been hurt, suicide bombings attacking towers. Why?

Do you not know that I lift My hand of protection when My people are far away?

We are one; we need not be far away. There is a way that seems right to a man. Disaster will result unless we forgive.

See the fallen; see them rise up and be refreshed as you give them a kiss, a holy kiss from above, pulling them up, giving them aid when they are down.

Let Me be in control; let Me lead your life. Do not be full of error, wondering this or that, going to and fro, not sure of which direction, being unable to forgive. Forgiveness is the key to repentance.

I forgave. I hung there and gave My life so you can have freedom. I hurt so you can walk in humility and be refreshed. You must take it and run, the precious gift of forgiveness, but not just for yourself, for others.

Forgive and be free.

Jesus said: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.” So where does that leave the warmongers? What is the opposite of blessing for the warmongers? And whose children are they — those who won’t repent for supporting the Illuminati Bush wars that are actually taking out countries who would oppose Satan’s one-world government? See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

We need to wash our hands and be clean. It’s probably too late to save America, but at least we can save ourselves from hellfire for wishing evil on people who didn’t even do anything to us.

We need to be way more careful. Today’s ‘Christianity’ is far different from real Christianity. Warmongering is a stench in God’s eyes and others.

What does the Bible really say?

What is the Holy Spirit saying? Hardly anyone seems to be hearing God anymore. What’s up with that?

And what does early Christian history say?

Jeff
Freedom Fighter

Related:

Sarah Palin demonstrates why most evangelicals dissed Ron Paul, who wanted to bring the troops home. ‘Christians’ have two sets of books: one for US and one for THEM (“who don’t deserve rights”). THEY’re not our ‘neighbor’ whom Jesus commanded US to love as much as ourselves. Maybe that’s why most evangelicals refuse to investigate 9/11. If THEY didn’t take down the towers…???
The Boot-Camp Factor: The Hate & Anger Factory Where Men are Programmed to Kill and Then Become Our Dads?!! Our Pastors?!!!
Boot camp kills the conscience so soldiers can do evil without being convicted in their hearts
Lose your empathy, and you’ve lost your soul: “Republicans still support Bush’s torture and murder of about two million innocents, and Democrats overlook Obama’s expanded war and torture.” “Once a combat soldier kills a defenseless non-combatant…”
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

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Who will lead the Third Great Awakening? "The only one qualified to preach is the one who wants to run the other way, like Jonah. The man, however, who loves to talk, loves to be public, and enjoys being seen and heard…"

Are his initials R. S.?
From: Charisma

The Power and the Pain of True Prophetic Preaching

J. Lee Grady

No true message from God will flow through a person who is smug and self-confident. If you want to speak for Him, prepare to die!


“We measure the impact of a sermon not by whether hearts were slain by Holy Ghost conviction but by how loud the preacher shouted or how high the people jumped when the preacher told them what they wanted to hear.”

The power of prophetic preaching actually works in the opposite way we assume it should. If we view things carnally, we believe God chooses gifted orators who hone and shape their skills like a doctor who learns surgery or an actor who learns to perform on stage.
But true preaching is not a natural exercise—it is actually one of the most supernatural tasks anyone can ever be called to do. It requires an imperfect human vessel to yield himself (or herself) to speak the very words of God. If we do it in the flesh, the results will be miserable; but if we wholly trust the power of the Spirit, prophetic preaching will unleash God to move however He desires.
If we fail in this process, we are humiliated. Why would anyone want to preach?
No wonder most of the leaders we encounter in the Bible were reluctant to speak. Moses made excuses about stuttering, Gideon tried to disqualify himself and Jeremiah complained to the Lord about the weighty responsibility of carrying a prophetic burden. Jonah bought a one-way ticket to the other side of the Mediterranean Sea so he wouldn’t have to give his unpopular sermon.
And the apostle Paul, who was a silver-tongued Pharisee before he met Christ, was stripped of his worldly eloquence before he preached throughout the Roman Empire. He told the Corinthians: “I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God” (1 Cor. 2:3-5, NASB).
Charismatic revivalist Arthur Katz, who died three years ago, wrote about the power of true preaching in his 1999 book Apostolic Foundations: “The only one qualified to preach … is the one who wants to run the other way, like Jonah. The man, however, who loves to talk, loves to be public, and enjoys being seen and heard, need not think that a word like this will ever be emitted from his mouth. The man who sighs and groans when called upon to speak, who does not want to be there, who feels terribly uncomfortable, who knows that he is not going to be understood, is the man out of whose mouth the word of true preaching is most likely to come.”
That is certainly not the way most of us view pulpit ministry in contemporary America. We celebrate the smooth and the polished. We measure the impact of a sermon not by whether hearts were slain by Holy Ghost conviction but by how loud the preacher shouted or how high the people jumped when the preacher told them what they wanted to hear.
That kind of carnal preaching may win the accolades of men, boost TV ratings and even build megachurches. But the kingdom is not built on smug self-confidence. We need God’s words. The church will live in spiritual famine until broken, reluctant, weak and trembling preachers allow His holy fire to come out of their mouths.
If this is your assignment, die to your fears, doubts and excuses and drink the cup of suffering that accompanies the genuine call of God.

Entire Article Here

Reverse-Christian George W. Bush: ‘D___ right’ I personally ordered waterboarding — When will evangelicals admit they were wrong, voting for this known Skull and Bonesman for even his 2nd term?

When will evangelicals admit they were wrong,
voting for this known Skull and Bonesman
for even his 2nd term?

Yikes!

Sermon of the Mount
(Matthew 5)

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.

– Jesus

From: Raw Story

President George W. Bush admits for the first time in his new memoir that he personally approved the use of waterboarding, a technique in which an interrogator simulates drowning on a suspect. The method, which most describe as torture, has since been banned by the Justice Department.

In his book, “Decision Points,” Bush asserts that he was asked by the Central Intelligence Agency whether he would support the agency’s waterboarding of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the alleged 9/11 mastermind.

“Damn right,” Bush says that he said.

The Washington Post’s R. Jeffrey Smith avers that a source close to Bush says he would have done the same thing again “to save lives,” though there’s been no proof produced that the torture technique has.

Entire Article Here
Related:
[Reverse-Christianity] Torture and the American Conscience: Most white ‘Christian’ evangelicals and white Catholics condone torture
Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Will Evangelicals Ever Admit They Were Duped by Bush?
Nader: President George W. Bush is guilty of at least 5 impeachable offenses that go on day after day
President Bush — “Bad Fruits versus Good Fruits” List
Bush: The Bible isn’t Literally True; Evolution is Scientifically Proven; Jesus isn’t the Only Way
Reverse-Christian George W. Bush: ‘Damn right’ I personally ordered waterboarding
More Proof: Skull and Bonesman President George W. Bush is a Reverse-Christian
Top architect explains why 9/11 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition and Al Qaeda didn’t have the technology or access to do it. Who did? Two months before the ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION PROJECT, Nick ROCKEFELLER predicted a 9/11-like event to trigger war!
All of my George Bush Family posts at ToBeFree in reverse-chronological order — See how deep the rabbit hole goes
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[Photo] My Car: NOHATE

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Paul Craig Roberts: The Collapse Of Western Morality — "Americans will be the first people sent straight to Hell while thinking that they are the salt of the earth"

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

– Jesus

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Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.

From: Rense

The Collapse Of Western Morality
By Paul Craig Roberts

…permit me to acknowledge that the US dropped nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities, fire-bombed Tokyo, that Great Britain and the US fire-bombed Dresden and a number of other German cities, expending more destructive force, according to some historians, against the civilian German population than against the German armies, that President Grant and his Civil War war criminals, Generals Sherman and Sheridan, committed genocide against the Plains Indians, that the US today enables Israel’s genocidal policies against the Palestinians, policies that one Israeli official has compared to 19th century US genocidal policies against the American Indians, that the US in the new 21st century invaded Iraq and Afghanistan on contrived pretenses, murdering countless numbers of civilians, and that British prime minister Tony Blair lent the British army to his American masters, as did other NATO countries, all of whom find themselves committing war crimes under the Nuremberg standard in lands in which they have no national interests, but for which they receive an American pay check.

I don’t mean these few examples to be exhaustive. I know the list goes on and on. Still, despite the long list of horrors, moral degradation is reaching new lows. The US now routinely tortures prisoners, despite its strict illegality under US and international law, and a recent poll shows that the percentage of Americans who approve of torture is rising. Indeed, it is quite high, though still just below a majority.

And we have what appears to be a new thrill: American soldiers using the cover of war to murder civilians. Recently American troops were arrested for murdering Afghan civilians for fun and collecting trophies such as fingers and skulls. …

The US government, a font of imperial hubris [def. – excessive pride or self-confidence; arrogance], does not believe that any act it commits, no matter how vile, can possibly be a war crime. One million dead Iraqis, a ruined country, and four million displaced Iraqis are all justified, because the “threatened” US Superpower had to protect itself from nonexistent weapons of mass destruction that the US government knew for a fact were not in Iraq and could not have been a threat to the US if they were in Iraq. …

Some sports teams now have a win-at-all-cost attitude that involves plans to injure the star players of the opposing teams. …

Americans will be the first people sent straight to Hell while thinking that they are the salt of the earth. The Americans have even devised a title for themselves to rival that of the Israelis’ self-designation as “God’s Chosen People.” The Americans call themselves “the indispensable people.”

Entire Article Here
For more of what’s really going on, check out my extensive research at ToBeFree
Who really goes to heaven? Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

My "Who Goes to Heaven" article has been up for over 2.5 years — without refutation!

My article, Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way article [which now includes Who are the Children of God] has been online since January 14, 2008.
And it’s long been the number one hit in Google if you type in: <who goes to heaven>.
So it has been online for 2.5 years, and has been widely read, and no one can refute it even though I’m offering a monetary reward to anyone who can.
So why aren’t ‘churches’ dropping their false doctrines and teaching the truth so real revival can come?
It’s so clear!

How low does America have to fall before we teach what the Bible really says — before we come alive — ONE with each other in Christ! (Jesus’ heart-cry for us in John 17)

When will we wake up that: [music video] Seawind: The Devil Is A Liar — “Don’t let the Devil do his number on you, child
There is no longer any excuse.
Let’s for once be truly Biblical: right with God and each other so the Holy Spirit can come, indwelling our hearts with peace, joy and power!
But this power is power-under, not power over.

We must follow and be led by the Prince of Peace, under His authority, not the too often reverse-Christian globalist controlled Fox News channel: Is Murdoch’s NIV the ‘N’ew ‘I’lluminati ‘V’ersion? Has the Word of God Been Corrupted to Bring US Into the New World Order?

The Devil is a liar, but the Holy Spirit is life, peace and joy!

More of my research into Fox News and how they control the right with their globalist ‘Christian’ and etc. personalities can be seen at ToBeFree. See in particular these categories:

Sarah Palin
Mike Huckabee
Glenn Beck Deception
George Bush Family
Media Bias Exposed
‘Christians’ Trashing America
Republicans Blackmailable

The Republican party has been almost totally hijacked, and the globalists do it through the naivety of ‘Christians,’ who aren’t learning the truth from their pastors — of whom most are Biblicaly disqualified to lead — which I’ll prove in an upcoming article.

The ‘church’ is the cause of the crash because we haven’t held up the standard. See The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit?. We’ve let the sin into our own lives; though, we blame the homosexuals, the Muslims, the Democrats, etc. — when we’re responsible for the collapse of America.

Jesus in Matthew 7:3-5

Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but don’t consider the beam that is in your own eye? Or how will you tell your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye;’ and behold, the beam is in your own eye? You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.

Do we still even care what Jesus says? I often wonder. Do evangelicals really care about what the Bible really says and about what the Holy Spirit is really saying?
Is Jesus really Lord of our lives; though, we say “Lord…”

Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?’ Then I will tell them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.’

– Jesus in Mat. 5:21-23

Let us be ONE!
Jeff Fenske
Anchorage, Alaska

HeartQuotes: Contempt

“There is no room in the universe for the least contempt or pride;
but only for a gentle and a reverent heart.”

– James Martineau

Grand Teton Reflection Version Here

My Ph.D.-genius-friend, John Calvin scholar: "In all my reading of Calvin, I don’t recall him ever apologizing for a mistake or admitting an error" | According to Paul, can John Calvin be in heaven?

Dave and I became close friends at seminary. Afterward, he shared with me what he had learned about John Calvin’s character. This is the first time I’ve seen it in writing from him.
If there is anyone who should know, it’s Dave. He’s probably read everything from at least every American library written by or about John Calvin, often even in the original languages. Dave is pure genius, having this amazing memory!
In Birmingham (his home), I went with him to the library one day to drop off and pick up the books he ordered. I watched him exchange about 30 books for the 30 books he was getting. I think he said he did this every week. His Ph.D. thesis blew the professors away. Apparently, it had this bibliography that was almost endless. I’ll have to ask him again about the specifics. He’s not one to toot his own horn.
From: calledtocommunion

How John Calvin Made me a Catholic

Jun 1st, 2010

This is a guest post by Dr. David Anders. David and his wife completed their undergraduate degrees at Wheaton College in 1992. He subsequently earned an M.A. from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in 1995, and a Ph.D. from the University of Iowa in 2002, in Reformation history and historical theology.  He was received into the Catholic Church in 2003. He will be on EWTN Live on June 23rd, 7:00 pm Central (8 EST), and may be discussing some of the material from this article.

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When I finished seminary, I moved on to Ph.D. studies in Reformation history. My focus was on John Calvin (1509-1564), the French Reformer who made Geneva, Switzerland into a model Protestant city. I chose Calvin not just because of my Presbyterian background, but because most American Protestants have some relationship to him. The English Puritans, the Pilgrim Fathers, Jonathan Edwards and the “Great Awakening” – all drew on Calvin and then strongly influenced American religion. My college and seminary professors portrayed Calvin as a master theologian, our theologian. I thought that if I could master Calvin, I would really know the faith.

Strangely, mastering Calvin didn’t lead me anywhere I expected. To begin with, I decided that I really didn’t like Calvin. I found him proud, judgmental and unyielding.

[…]

I already knew that Calvin himself, for all his insistence on unity and authority, had been unable to deliver the goods. His own followers descended into anarchy and individualism.

I realized instead that Calvin was part of the problem. He had insisted on the importance of unity and authority, but had rejected any rational or consistent basis for that authority. He knew that Scripture totally alone, Scripture interpreted by each individual conscience, was a recipe for disaster. But his own claim to authority was perfectly arbitrary. Whenever he was challenged, he simply appealed to his own conscience, or to his subjective experience, but he denied that right to Bolsec and others. As a result, Calvin became proud and censorious, brutal with his enemies, and intolerant of dissent. In all my reading of Calvin, I don’t recall him ever apologizing for a mistake or admitting an error.

Entire Article Here

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So can John Calvin be in heaven?

Unlike Calvin, Paul actually did ~”work out his own salvation through fear and trembling.” He made sure he ALWAYS right with everyone and God.

“Herein I also practice *always* having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” (Acts 24:16)

He overcame sin by the power of the Holy Spirit. He once lived in Romans 7 before he became born-again. Then he lived in Christ, not walking according to the flesh, but according to the Holy Spirit:

“There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

Consider Paul’s words in Paul in Galatians 5 & 6. In which list do we find John Calvin?

13 For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don’t use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, be careful that you don’t consume one another.

16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

25 If we live by the Spirit, let’s also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let’s not become conceited, provoking one another, and envying one another.

1 Brothers, even if a man is caught in some fault, you who are spiritual must restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; looking to yourself so that you also aren’t tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if a man thinks himself to be something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each man test his own work, and then he will take pride in himself and not in his neighbor. 5 For each man will bear his own burden.

6 But let him who is taught in the word share all good things with him who teaches. 7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

9 Let us not be weary in doing good, for we will reap in due season, if we don’t give up. 10 So then, as we have opportunity, let’s do what is good toward all men, and especially toward those who are of the household of the faith.

Related:
John Calvin Didn’t Follow Christ: “If you can burn people at the stake, and drown people in the river, and drive them out of town into a Swiss winter, and say you got that from the Bible, you’re not an exegete. And that’s the kind of man John Calvin was” – Mike Floyd
John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake — His Ashes Cry Out!
The Protestant Reformers Were Frauds: By their Fruits You Will Know Them — Martin Luther was a false teacher, a racist, a persecutor and a murderer! John Calvin was a false teacher, a deranged tyrant, a persecutor and a murderer!
John Calvin was a Persecutor
Felix Manz (1498-1527) – Drowned by Zwingli for Rebaptizing — Manz wanted to bring together those who were willing to accept Christ, OBEY the Word, and FOLLOW in Jesus’ footsteps, to UNITE with these by baptism
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”
My friend, David Anders on Catholic TV (I don’t recommend Catholicism, but I’m a big fan of Dave)

Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Why Do Evangelicals Ignore Ron Paul? | My Opinion

This is an oldie but goody, written by Chuck before I started this blog.
My opinion follows Chuck’s article.

From: News with Views

WHY DO EVANGELICALS IGNORE RON PAUL?

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin
February 27, 2007
NewsWithViews.com

Evangelical Christians are already beginning the process of selecting the Republican presidential candidate whom they can anoint as their successor to George W. Bush. Somehow, evangelicals have this deluded idea that President Bush is one of them. How they came to this delusion both fascinates and escapes me. Bush is anything but one of them. However, most evangelicals believe he is, and today it seems that illusion is greater than reality, anyway. Bush proves that more than anyone I have ever known. But enough about Bush.

The question burning in the minds of evangelicals today is: Which Republican candidate for president will we anoint? There are several possibilities, but apparently Congressman Ron Paul is not one of them.

For example, Jerry Falwell’s widely distributed National Liberty Journal, in its March 2007 edition, had a major section entitled “Campaign 2008-Identifying the Republican Presidential Candidates.” A total of ten Republicans made the Journal’s list. The ten listed were Sen. Sam Brownback, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Sen. Chuck Hagel, Gov. Mike Huckabee, Rep. Duncan Hunter, Sen. John McCain, Gov. George Pataki, Gov. Mitt Romney, and Rep. Tom Tancredo.

However, even though Rep. Ron Paul has also formed a presidential exploratory committee (something Gingrich has not even done yet), his name was conspicuously absent from Falwell’s list. Why is this? Why do evangelicals ignore Ron Paul?

Ron Paul received his Bachelor’s degree from Gettysburg College. He received his MD from Duke University. He began his OB/GYN career in 1968. He was also an Air Force Captain and a member of the Air National Guard.

Ron Paul has served as a conservative congressman from Texas for over 16 years. He currently has a 100% rating from The Conservative Index, which is probably the most relevant and accurate reflection of a congressman’s true conservative record out there.

Furthermore, unlike most Republicans, Paul’s commitment to the life issue is more than rhetoric. For example, during the 2005 congressional session, Rep. Paul introduced H.R. 776, entitled the “Sanctity of Life Act of 2005.”

Had it passed, H.R. 776 would have recognized the personhood of all unborn babies by declaring, “human life shall be deemed to exist from conception.” The bill also recognized the authority of each State to protect the lives of unborn children. In addition, H.R. 776 would have removed abortion from the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, thereby nullifying the Roe v Wade decision, and would have denied funding for abortion providers. In plain language, H.R. 776 would have ended abortion on demand. (It is more than interesting to me that none of the evangelicals’ pet politicians, including George W. Bush, even bothered to support Paul’s pro-life bill.)

In addition, Ron Paul has been the most outspoken defender of constitutional government in the entire congress-bar none. He has often stood virtually alone against federal abuse of power, corruption, and big government.

Currently, Ron Paul is one of only a handful of congressmen that dares speak out against the emerging North American Union, NAFTA superhighway, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership agreement, all of which are being promoted by the White House in concert with the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

Speaking of the CFR, two of the U.S. senators listed as presidential candidates in Jerry Falwell’s Liberty Journal, Chuck Hagel and John McCain, are current members of the CFR.

For his entire political career, Ron Paul has served foursquare upon the principles of constitutional (limited) government, less taxation, right to life, and personal liberty. Ron Paul is a conservative’s conservative, a principled constitutionalist of the finest order. How is it, then, that Jerry Falwell and other evangelicals ignore him?

The answer to the above question is not easy to determine. Maybe today’s evangelicals are more concerned about being accepted by the GOP establishment than they are supporting principled, conservative candidates. After all, Paul’s willingness to openly oppose his own party has caused him to be blacklisted by party loyalists and apologists. Therefore, it might be that our illustrious evangelical leaders are unwilling to be identified with Paul lest they share the same ostracism.

Another reason might be that today’s evangelicals are extremely shallow in their discernment. They seem to love Republican candidates who wear religion on their sleeve. Whether the candidate walks the walk does not seem to matter near as much as whether he talks the talk.

Hence, evangelicals are already warming up to John McCain, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, and even to Rudy Giuliani. Falwell’s National Liberty Journal (NLJ) calls Gingrich “a true American statesman.” McCain is called “pro-life.” Already, McCain has spoken for Dr. Falwell at his Liberty University. (Don’t be surprised if Falwell becomes one of McCain’s strongest proponents.) The NLJ quotes Evangelicals for Mitt as saying, “Gov. Romney . . . shares our values.” Of Giuliani, NLJ states, “On issues such as national security, battling terrorism and combating crime, Mr. Giuliani is very popular with conservatives.”

However, the truth is, neither Gingrich, Giuliani, Romney, nor McCain deserves the support of principled conservatives. Each of these men has numerous examples of failure and compromise of essential conservative values.

Another trap evangelicals seem to fall into is the puerile desire to “pick a winner.” Wanting to be sure that they are seen dancing with the last man on the floor, evangelicals are trying to figure out who that man will be so as to be ready to receive their invitation to the dance. And since they don’t expect to see Ron Paul issuing dance invitations, they have already written him off.

However, rather than letting themselves be used as dupes by the GOP machine, if America’s evangelicals would determine to stand on principle by supporting only those candidates who most courageously champion our principles (regardless of their popularity, or lack thereof, with the Republican hierarchy), they might actually be able to bring real change to American politics.

As it is, evangelicals continue to call George W. Bush “one of us,” they continue to drink Kool Aid from the faucet of Republican propaganda, and they continue to ignore Ron Paul.

My opinion:
I agree with what Chuck says above, but would add this.
I think the main reason most evangelicals wouldn’t even consider Ron Paul was that he was and is too biblical.
Clearly, Ron Paul actually believes in actually doing what Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount: “Blessed are the peacemakers.” Ron Paul wasn’t pro-reverse-Christian-war enough. Ron Paul believes in treating people equally, in loving all of our neighbors as ourselves.
Ron Paul is too pro-life. He’s fully pro-life, not stopping at just standing up to protect the unborn, but Ron Paul believes we also shouldn’t be bombing children and full grown people, regardless of their skin color or their religion. War is a last resort for Ron Paul. Ron Paul isn’t a striker (one of the qualifications for church leadership that Paul states in 1 Tim. 3:3, which alone disqualifies most pastors, those who support the immoral, reverse-Christian wars — willing to treat others differently than they would want to be treated).
Ron Paul is power under, not power-over. Ron Paul is a libertarian (liberty), not desiring to bully others. We shouldn’t be pushing people around, making people do what we’d like them to do. We should stick to the Constitution and not go beyond it.
And he’s not into revenge (ie: evangelicals, their pastors and 9/11).
So it is my opinion that Ron Paul is too biblical for most evangelicals. Ron Paul won’t push their unbiblical, power-over, reverse-Christian agenda.
How can this be? The only possible answer seems to be that most evangelicals have lost their soul, whether born-again or not. Being born-again is just the start. Most evangelicals aren’t abiding in Christ, which Jesus lays out in John 15, where He says to abide in Him we must love one another. Otherwise, we’ll be thrown into the fire and burned. We must bear fruit because we’re connected to the Vine. In this, the Bible is consistent. See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

God gave us Ron Paul, and the ‘church’ rejected God’s gift to US. So now, ‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
What we should be focusing on now is getting real Christianity going, because America is going down, having rejected Ron Paul, the peacemaker.
It’s time to get right with God and each other.
Jeff
Related:
Sarah Palin demonstrates why most evangelicals dissed Ron Paul, who wanted to bring the troops home. ‘Christians’ have two sets of books: one for US and one for THEM (“who don’t deserve rights”). THEY’re not our ‘neighbor’ whom Jesus commanded US to love as much as ourselves. Maybe that’s why most evangelicals refuse to investigate 9/11. If THEY didn’t take down the towers…???

WOW! Abortion survivor Gianna Jessen speaks before Aussie Parliament: "My whole intent in living here is just to make God smile."

Wow!!!

What an example to all of us she is!

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

We have removed our emotions. We are becoming harder. Do you really want that?

How much are you willing to take, and how much are you willing to risk to speak the truth in love and graciousness — and stand up — and at least be willing to be hated?

Or at the end of the day, is it all about you…?”

If abortion is merely about women’s rights, ladies and gentlemen, then what were mine? …my life was being snuffed out in the name of women’s rights.”

“And what arrogance, what absolute arrogancethat the stronger should dominate the weaker, should determine who lives or dies.”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ]Gianna Jessen Abortion Survivor in Australia Part 1

TellTheTruthTV | September 10, 2008

Part 1 of 2 Gianna Jessen, abortion survivor speaks at Queen’s Hall, Parliament House, Victoria. Australia – on the eve of the debate to decriminalize abortion in Victoria.
Gianna’s visit was sponsored by the Ad Hoc Interfaith Committee.

Some of you might be slightly annoyed that all I keep doing is talking about God and Jesus. But how on earth can I walk about, limping through this world, and not give ALL my heart and mind and soul and strength to the Christ Who gave me LIFE!

So if you think I’m a fool, it’s just another jewel in my crown.

My whole intent in living here is just to make God smile.”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8B1nKGIAeg]Gianna Jessen Abortion Survivor in Australia Part 2

Related:

GiannaJessen.com

Abortion Survivor Gianna Jessen on Hannity & Colmes

[Illustration] USA and Israel totally ignore: "Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord." Who are we listening to instead?

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All pro-war-with-Iran-too 'Christians' should listen: Dr. Stan – Is War With Iran A Set-up? Lies that led US into all of the wars in the last 120 years! "It's really all about bringing about the one-world government." Evangelicals are complicit!

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

Mom and me
At the Monteith’s

———

“I would warn you that terrible times lie ahead.
We have no business going into an unnecessary war with Iran.

And when you go back over the history of all the wars
that have taken place in the last 120 years,
every one of them has been contrived,
and in every one of them
they lied
to the public as to why they went to war.”

“There has been a plan since long before the inception of the United States
to use our nation to bring about a world government.”

“Ladies and gentlemen,
all these wars are started and contrived by other people
who have a different agenda,
and it’s really all about bringing about the one-world government
that’s prophesied in the scriptures.
And the average American doesn’t understand.”

“Between 1977 and the year 2008,
every President and/or Vice President of the United States
came from the membership roles of the Trilateral Commission.

And you’re never going to read about that in the newspapers
because of course, they control the newspapers….

And of course,
they are moving us towards a war with Iran, today.”

“Men and women become accomplices to the evils they fail to oppose.”

“If we get involved in another major war,
and it goes for any period of time,
it will bankrupt America.
And we are already bankrupt morally
.

And I fear that God is going to bring His judgment on this nation,
as He does upon any nation that turns against Him.
And believe me, America has turned against God.

And of course,
this is because of the occult influence in our country.

– Dr. Stanley Monteith

From:
Dr. Stanley Monteith’s Radio Liberty Archives

Date: 07-10-10
Saturday Broadcast
Dr. Stan – Is War With Iran A Set-up?
Date: 07-09-10

Related:
Dr. Stanley Monteith’s Newsletters from Radio Liberty (with Footnotes) – Updated
All of my Dr. Stanley Monteith posts at ToBeFree

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