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Good, quick description!
NOTE: I definitely do not support all of Michael Brown’s views and practices. Michael supports the anti-Christ, NWO, Talmudic system that’s taking us down, while having admitted that Jesus strongly rebuked the Pharisees, who were Talmudists.
Most of what he says here is good, but his idea that the apostles were speaking in Armenian in Acts 2 and not in tongues is bizarre.
Biblically speaking, tongues are mainly people’s personal prayer language in which the Holy Spirit speaks through people mysteries that “no one understands,” which builds up the speaker.
The most popular, current false teaching says it can only be an Acts-2 experience in which foreigners understand, which the rest of the texts clearly refute.
Michael Brown mentions the blessing with the spirit aspect (verses 16 and 17).
I would add that I believe a main reason that Christians are built up when praying in tongues is because tongues is often perfectly praying against evil spirits, perhaps to angels in their language, who then deal with the demons. And this may be why Paul says tongues are praying in the language of men and angels in 1 Cor. 13:1. Praying in the Spirit can set us and others FREE!
Nice ending:
Brown: “Can we both agree and say ‘Father, we want everything that You have for us in the fullness of the Spirit to glorify Jesus and nothing that’s not from You. … I pray that for you. You pray that for me. Fair enough?”
Minor: “Fair enough.”
TIMING: President Trump is being hunted down by the left, and risks being jailed so he can’t even run in 2024.
SETTING: As is often the case in dreams, my car was different than in real life, and the location was unfamiliar.
THE DREAM: I was standing next to the right side of my car, parked on the street, and President Trump pulled up in a regular car, by himself (no security). He was so interested in what was in my car that he pulled up so close that his bumper almost touched mine. I warned him, so he wouldn’t hit it, and then smiled after he stopped, holding up my thumb and forefinger about 1/8 inch apart.
Irenaeus, who traveled widely (Gaul, Italy, Asia) and his contemporaries (“we”) had themselves been witnesses of the phenomenon as practiced by “many” and in “all kinds of languages,” as he attests in AD 180. Tertullian states that the “interpretation of tongues” was present in his group.
“The gift of tongues in the post-apostolic church: a rejoinder to Cleon Rogers”
by Gary S. Shogren, PhD in New Testament, professor of New Testament at Seminario ESEPA, San José, Costa Rica. See also my commentary on 1 Corinthians, HERE. [Amazon]
…let us read what Irenaeus actually said in Against Heresies 5.6.1 (ANF 1: 531), from c. AD 180:
For this reason does the apostle declare, “We speak wisdom among them that are perfect,” terming those persons “perfect” who have received the Spirit of God, and who through the Spirit of God do speak in all languages, as [Paul] used himself also to speak. In like manner we do also hear many brethren in the Church, who possess prophetic gifts, and those who through the Spirit speak all kinds of languages, and bring to light for the general benefit the hidden things of men, and declare the mysteries of God…[5]
I wrote this related article:
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Thomas R. Schreiner is JAMES BUCHANAN HARRISON PROFESSOR OF NEW TESTAMENT INTERPRETATION AND PROFESSOR OF BIBLICAL THEOLOGY (1997) at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
I looked through the comments under Thomas Schreiner’s video, and post the best-of below. This one introduces Gordon Fee’s excellent article:
Dr. Schreiner is a major NT scholar and I think he has some valuable insights on a lot of the NT. But on the matter of “speaking in tongues” his own lack of experience or the experiences in his churches make him myopic to the text. We need to be careful not to read our own experience or lack of experience, as is Schreiner, back into scripture. The scriptures are addressing people who had certain common experiences, and IF we today have a similar experience to them, the texts make much more sense. For example, Paul’s epistles are addressed to first generation Christians who mostly experienced a dramatic encounter with the Holy Spirit in their conversion. They knew the joy of sins forgiven, deliverances from demons, and Gods love poured out in their hearts; and as Paul says to the Corinthians, “they lacked no spiritual gift.’ I mean, Paul’s explanation in 1 Corinthians 12-14 was not instruction to those who knew nothing in experience of these things. He was correcting certain abuses. …
An opposing view from another eminent NT scholar [Gordon Fee], for those who really seek to know the word.
The Essential Nature of Speaking in Tongues
First, who is Gordon Fee?
Gordon Fee is a noted New Testament scholar, having published several books and articles in his field of specialization, New Testament textual criticism. He also published a textbook on New Testament interpretation, co-authored two books for lay people on biblical interpretation, as well as scholarly-popular commentaries on 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus and on Galatians, and major commentaries on 1 Corinthians and Philippians. He is also the author of a major work on the Holy Spirit and the Person of Christ in the letters of Paul.
Gordon Fee served as the general editor of the New International Commentary series until 2012….
In his article, The Essential Nature of Speaking in Tongues, Gordon Fee writes:
..it is a common error among Cessationists to interpret all accounts of the gift of tongues through the events of Pentecost in Acts 2, in which tongues was clearly understood by the Jewish observers as human languages/dialects. This is a grievous error, because instead of taking all of the accounts of tongues in to account and then forming a theology of the nature of the gift, Cessationists force the well-rounded peg of the full Scriptural witness through the square hole of one passage. The Pentecostal interpretation, on the other hand, takes all of the passages into account first, and then puts together a holistic theology of tongues. …
Tragically, many pastors today are falsely rejecting God’s precious gift of praying in tongues because they say it’s not exactly like what happened in Acts 2, when many foreigners were in Jerusalem for the feast of Passover, and could hear the newly Spirit-filled Christians speaking in their own languages. “So this is always the way it’s supposed to happen or it’s not Biblical tongues,” pastors say.
Paul explains God’s gift of praying in tongues to God privately, to be free:
1 Cor. 13:1 If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don’t have love….
1 Cor. 14:1 Follow after love and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2 For he who speaks in another language speaks not to men, but to God; for no one understands; but in the Spirit he speaks mysteries. 3 But he who prophesies speaks to men for their edification, exhortation, and consolation. 4 He who speaks in another language edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the assembly. 5 Now I desire to have you all speak with other languages [everyone could pray in tongues], but rather that you would prophesy [during public church services]. For he is greater who prophesies than he who speaks with other languages, unless he interprets, that the assembly may be built up.
Directly related: (video) Nightline: Speaking in tongues medical study PROVES Holy Spirit praying
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Speaking in tongues
Medical research
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Neuroimaging of brain activity during glossolalia does not show activity in the language areas of the brain.[67][68] …
A study done by the American Journal of Human Biology found that speaking in tongues was associated with both a reduction in circulatory cortisol, and enhancements in alpha-amylase enzyme activity – two common biomarkers of stress reduction that can be measured in saliva.[73]
Several sociological studies report various social benefits to engaging in Pentecostal glossolalia,[74][75] such as an increase in self-confidence.[75]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5_bwbvtRwU
Many good points, and mostly true, like: we don’t need a church leader to baptize us in water, and we all should be baptized after we’re born-again.
But: following righteous, biblically qualified leaders as they follow the Lord and help us be led by the Holy Spirit would be a good thing — if there were any. There will be….
Also, we don’t have to wait to speak in tongues, just do it. It’s really simple once we’re born-again. Just speak the words that are in your mouth whatever they are.
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Really important; though, some parts may be confusing. Having prayed in tongues many thousands of hours since 1981, and having studied this in-depth myself, I’d be glad to answer any questions.
I also have a Pray Perfectly in Tongues category here at ONEcanhappen, that has my posts on this important and maligned subject.
Having had thousands of confirmations, I personally believe that the main purpose of praying in tongues is to deal with demons in a way that we don’t have to see what’s actually going on — because if we saw the demons we’re dealing with we’d probably freak!
Jeff
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Beth @25:50, transcribed by me:
“We have to learn how to trust Him, and know that He’s safe, and that the gift is safe.
The Devil does not want people to have or use any of the gifts of the Spirit, especially tongues, because tongues is that powerful. And that is why there are so many widespread lies and misunderstandings about tongues. Because if the Devil can strip that away from us then we have lost a piece of the armor of God, we have lost a mighty and powerful weapon to defeat the Devil, which is why we’re here. We’re here to partner with Jesus and kick the Devil’s butt!
So of course, he’s going to try and stop that.”
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From: Charisma Magazine
Ex-Witch Breaks Down the Power Speaking and Praying in Tongues Holds
Ex-witch Beth Eckert says one of the key ways to defeat the devil when he launches an attack is to speak and pray in tongues.
However, many Christians today do not believe these are active gifts meant for modern use.
“Recently, I’ve decided to explore more in-depth about what speaking in tongues is versus praying in tongues and what Scripture says about those things, because I’ve seen so much controversy on the topic of speaking in tongues,” Eckert says.
The ex-witch says most of her research comes straight from 1 Corinthians 14, which dictates how and why these gifts should be used.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uErNyf01gik
Speaking In Tongues & Praying In Tongues: A Biblical Guide
Call to “radical, wild prayer” at 17:20!!!!!!!!!
Something terrible happened when our church stopped having group prayer, praying in the Spirit, decades ago. It’s been dead ever since, so many don’t even bother going anymore, including myself. They don’t want truthers.
False doctrine then crept in too, big-time! Sick!
Radical, group prayer, dealing with demonic forces, praying perfectly in the Spirit is a HUGE part of the solution.
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John Burton Interview – TCT Cleveland
As an ex-witch, Beth would be more aware about how much demons really do affect people. Here, she discusses the importance of praying in tongues so people can be set free!
I’ve been praying this way for others since the early ’80s, and have experienced THOUSANDS of deliverances!
Beth correctly says:
“Tongues is perfectly releasing the prayers that need to be prayed for those people.”
Any Christian can do this.
I have a category here on my spiritual blog called “Pray Perfectly in Tongues.” (10 posts per page, latest appear first)
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WATCH: This Ex-Witch Explains the Benefits of Speaking in Tongues
Beth, of the blog The Other Side of Darkness, was a practicing witch until the cross transformed her life.
Now, the Spirit-filled believer is out to share the good news of how others can connect to God through the gifts of the Spirit, particularly praying in tongues as described in 1 Corinthians 14.
“Speaking in tongues can scare people,” Beth says in a recent video. “I mean, we don’t understand what is being said. God understands, and angels and demons understand.”
While our minds can’t comprehend, our spirits can. And though the gift can be a bit confusing, it has several benefits for both the speaker and those around them.
Watch the video to see what they are! (Charisma News)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OygKiRmdtQ
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhREzONUz4]Praying in Tongues Part 2
Published on Sep 15, 2015
Release and activate the gift of praying in tongues! This is an amazing gift for any believer who asks for it.
Once a Witch and totally given over to darkness, now saved by Jesus Christ! I have been blessed with amazing gifts from our Father!
Check out my My Testimony https://youtu.be/MisoSzipgy8 …
Check out my blog! http://www.theothersideofdarkness.com
Related:
A prophesy that I got 15 years ago, which also has links to some of my other articles on tongues:
Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!
I’m glad this deer TOTALLY gets FREE! My concern would be the deer would pull himself/herself away before the job was done. Looks like the deer was cut badly, trying to free him/herself.
I was thinking about this video this morning, while praying specifically for a number of people. Many are BOUND by actual demons, and praying in the Spirit for people can help FREE them.
And many wish (pray/James-3 curse) that people would be against people, which happens to me many times every day. When we pray for the bullies the people they have cursed get FREE!!! I believe this could be easily clinically proven someday.
I’ve been praying in the Spirit for people since the early ‘80s.
One of the great deceptions in these last days is the widespread ignoring of the effect that demons have on people, which is totally unlike what was taught and practiced in the New Testament. The result is that most Christians now have many demons in them, affecting them directly, even making people sick and lethargic, which I prove can happen here:
Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!
I believe that’s why Paul prayed in tongues more than anyone, to get FREE. He was a point man who was James-3 cursed a lot. This prophecy partially describes what’s going on and ways to get free:
Getting right with those we’ve hurt can FREE us from guilt and condemnation too. This is an important video in many ways. I’ve been pushing for a permanent Asbury to happen, ONE can happen, perhaps starting here in Anchorage, once key people get right with those they’ve hurt — especially one key person, who seems to be holding up this FREEDOM fest. I don’t know what he’s waiting for. I’d be scared to death to die with guilt on my conscience.
Jesus said we need to reconcile (Mt. 5 & Jn. 17). Paul did it (Acts 24:16):
“Herein I also practice *always* having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” (Acts 24:16)
Our consciences must be clean when we see Jesus face to FACE!:
Imagine what a permanent Asbury would be like. Awesome video here!:
To Be FREE!!!!!!!
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[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXh_Pvj_ZHY]Deer Stuck in a Tomato Cage
“You have to speak in tongues while He does it through you. It’s a supernatural encounter.
You have to do it. You have to participate, because when you do it it means God, I’m submitting to You and Your tongue, Your Will that unites us all, Your Spirit that unites us all, Your understanding, Your sovereignty, not my own. …
It’s a humility, submission thing. It’s a big deal! …
..even the core of our prayer life we don’t know how to pray. We allow God to do it in us and through us, for us….”
– Joshua Tanner, 10/12/14, New Covenant Prayer: Praying in Tongues
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from the Abbott Loop podcast
Related:
Nightline: Speaking in tongues medical study PROVES Holy Spirit praying
(video) How to speak in tongues as the Holy Spirit enables you
(video) How to speak in other tongues as the Holy Spirit leads you
I’ve finally shared much of what I know about and what can be done through the TREMENDOUS and mostly misunderstood and underused gift of tongues. A reader thankfully put me over the edge : ) This is specifically about how I do it
Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!
Jim Feeney: Why Speak in Tongues? (Is Speaking in Tongues of God? Is It for Today?)
A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls) — Let Us Be ONEProphecy, Part 13 of 33
A Gift that Will Set Many Free!
There is another day, a day that will happen if you let it.
I want you to be free, free from anxiety. A death warrant is out for your souls. It will get you if you let it. You must pray.
Many die from unknown causes. They are weak from attacks from the Devil who never gives up—curse after curse—toward My people. Many have given in, unable to walk.
Tongues, I’ve given you the gift of tongues from My heart to you. It is a gift that will set many free if you use it regularly. It is for you to walk holy, set free in forgiveness while you pray.
The two work together. One attacks the Devil, while you release those who have hurt you deeply, wounded your soul.
Pray for them. You can focus; you don’t have to pray in general all the time. I will give you the gift of lifeas you pray.
This is how it works. Believe in your heart you are praying for one another; though, it will come from the Holy Ghost, the words you emit that I give you to speak. Focus on these people, and pray until your tongues cease. I will tell you who to pray for, but this isn’t necessary. You can pray for anyone that way.
Believe in your heart; direct your tongues. I will fill your mouth as you speak and set people free. I will pray perfectly, as you obey, giving your life to others through prayer.
Amazing things will result! Your heart will be glad!
Watch Me do it. Prove My point. Try it now. Focus on someone who needs prayer. Believe in your heart you are praying for them as you speak words from above that fill your mouth. Pray it out, and watch them change, for I will release them from anger and all kinds of oppressions as you pray. You will see it, and it will amaze your intelligence. Many will be set free. Do it now. This is an important point.
And as you pray, forgive, release them from all kinds of cares and bondages. The two work hand in hand. You forgive and I pray through your words that I give you.
This is freedom! Set them free. Do it now; why wait when you can have the chance to move mountains, havean impact on society that many will see and feel. Your heart will be glad. Many will walk holy.
Pray for your elders. Many are not in the ministry to give life. Many are sucking you dry. They need to give up the ghost of unforgiveness and get on the bandwagon of love.
The seal of approval, you all want it. You can have it now. Why wait? You can be in Me as we speak. You can know for sure that you are sons of God, that I am in you and you are in Me. You will feel it. Your heart will be glad, and you will pray.
I will take you to heights unknown. Miracles will take place all around you as you obey. Many will be glad that you took the step of faith to lead. When all looked hopeless, you got up from your seat and prayed.
Pray. Let your heart be glad, and don’t give up. Pray until your tongues stop. This is an amazing gift that has much power to change.
Anyone can pray in tongues. It is a gift for all who obey, all who call on Me for Mercy.
Drink deeply, and let it give you life, freeing you, while you relax and find peace in a home here on earth.
We are together. Let us pray.
Living Examples, Filled to Overflowing Let Us Be ONE Prophecy, Part 15 of 33 excerpt:
It takes two to have fellowship. No more, but more will come. Start meeting two by twos until more follow. Meet once a week, and pray aloud. Strengthen yourselves, and go to the nations. They will see your light and be glad. But first, start at home. Build yourself a base, a core of believers who know Me from the bottom of their heart.
You will see great things happen in your midst, and it will be fun, exciting to watch Me work in you to others. Let them see your light. Let it shine. Let it be bold. Don’t hold back. Live a life of love.
A Christian’s powerbase! Authority over temptations. “You can win, and win big!!”
A friend sent me this video in which a Dale M. Sides talks about praying in tongues TO BE FREE!!!!!!! I’ve prayed in tongues MANY THOUSANDS OF HOURS, since discovering in the early ’80s that my battles really were with evil spirits inside of me, and praying in tongues is 100% effective in driving them out. Then it’s easy to go COLD TURKEY to the lust demons (“Don’t give the Devil a place” — Paul in Ephesians), etc..
Actively forgiving others is another big key, but this one is hardly ever discussed. God gave us this gift because He doesn’t want us to be able to see the demons and fully understand what’s going on. We would freak if we knew — they’re that ugly — attached to us, driving sin!
Praying in tongues is awesome! And we can even pray for others this way, which I do every day.
I would have been dead many years ago had I not discovered the effectiveness of this gift and used it.
Paul said he prayed in tongues more than anyone else. Why was that? He was a big target; was James-3 cursed a lot! The more we stand up for God the more we need to pray.
Many need to pray just so they can even stand up for God and what is right, living holy until we see Jesus face to Face!
I’m still planning on doing my own videos. Some of my related posts are linked below the video, including how to pray in tongues.
Thanks, Casey!
Feel free to comment, including questions. Very important subject!!
jeff
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50:25 “This is the Christian’s power base.”
51:10 “You can win, and win big — and not just win, but help other people win!”
53:00 “I know this: that speaking in tongues calls angels. It says in 1 Cor. 13:1: ‘though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels.'”
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Starts at minute-6:30[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz8yaHiB6Ac]SPEAKING IN TONGUES TO DRIVE OUT DEMONS
Published on Jan 27, 2014
Thanks to www.lmci.org for this teaching and i hope it helps someone out there
Related:
A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls)
Nightline: Speaking in tongues medical study PROVES Holy Spirit praying
How to speak in other tongues as the Holy Spirit leads you
How to speak in tongues as the Holy Spirit enables you
Jim Feeney: Why Speak in Tongues? (Is Speaking in Tongues of God? Is It for Today?)
One of my most favorite songs, ever!!! Doesn’t run long enough, though.
Thank you, Dave Von Kleist, formerly of The Power Hour! Dave used to play this a lot, talking through it with fervor!
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. – Eph. 6:12
Kick demon butt, praying perfectly in the Spirit against our real enemies!!!!!!!
: )
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TURN IT UP!
Battle Without Honor Or Humanity
Lord of the Rings – fighting evil version – sound not quite as good[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl2_o8SVVIs]Eowyn – Battle Without Honor Or Humanity
WoW!!!!!!!
I just prayed a prayer for others that I’ve never prayed before, and got LOTS of prayer language (tongues) for certain people. I wrote this post in 2011:
“If you sold you soul . . . unsell it!
Related:
Steve Hill: Breaking Up with the Devil — “You must be sick and tired of the relationship”
A reader wrote me this email recently, and graciously gave me permission to post it: really awesome testimony about praying in tongues to overcome and dream! I said I would without mentioning her name. Thank you very much!
Having prayed in tongues many thousands of hours for 33 years, I believe praying in tongues is mostly about freeing from evil spirits, both the prayer and those prayed for. I explain this in a link below, as well as give biblical proof that most ‘Christians’ today have demons, and share my prophecy about praying in tongues to get free!
One of my teachers in Bible school, Frank G. used to call it “getting the carbon out.” We would often blow the carbon out at the start of his classes, or before Prayer and Praise to be free!
Use your gift, you all, and if you don’t know how, or think you don’t have this personal prayer language gift, there are links below for that too, or write me.
Life in the Son!
jeff : )
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“But you, beloved,
keep building up yourselves on your most holy faith,
praying in the Holy Spirit”
– Jude 20
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I’ve been talking to believing friends of mine about speaking in tongues and how powerful it is for spiritual warfare, one friend and I have even started a small group so that those with the gift in the ministry can pray in tongues together. We get together a few times a week and the meetings have been effective and powerful. Every one of the people that have joined the group have expressed how they’re growing into a closer and more intimate relationship with the Father and with Yahushua, and we hear daily testimonies about how the Holy Spirit is dealing with and overcoming sin in the lives of these believers.
Earlier this week, a dear friend of mine even received his gift of speaking in tongues for the very first time. 🙂 We were both very excited, and I encouraged him to use the gift often, as he’s very much in tune with the great need for spiritual warfare.
I know what you mean about ‘Christians’ being empowered by these demonic forces – sometimes the “Sunday morning disconnect” is so great that one can hardly believe that the person saying “I love Jesus” is the same one that dropped the F-bomb yesterday while threatening to cut her nephew’s eyes out for something he did a year ago. True story.
I had an interesting spiritual dream the other night. I dreamed that a friend and I were on an embankment by the side of a great body of water during a storm. As a wave came up and was about to crash over us, I thought to myself, “I guess this is it. I’ll see you in the new city.” I closed my eyes in the dream and expected the next scene to be waking up in New Jerusalem. Instead, I opened my eyes underwater, realized I was still alive and swam up to the surface.
When I reached the surface, I looked up and saw the golden city above me, and Jesus was reaching his arms out for my friend and I, like he was inviting us. My friend started to fly up in the air toward him, I tried to grab his leg but I couldn’t hold on. Then I looked at Jesus and started speaking in tongues, and as I would pray in tongues, I started to fly up toward him too. We eventually made it up to him, and he set us on a high platform overlooking New Jerusalem.
At that point the dream was interrupted by someone calling me in real life, but it left me with a tremendous sense of awe, and I felt very loved and humbled afterwards.
Related:
I’ve finally shared much of what I know about and what can be done through the TREMENDOUS and mostly misunderstood and underused gift of tongues. A reader thankfully put me over the edge : ) This is specifically about how I do it
Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!
Nightline: Speaking in tongues medical study PROVES Holy Spirit praying
(video) How to speak in other tongues as the Holy Spirit leads you
(video) How to speak in tongues as the Holy Spirit enables you
Jim Feeney: Why Speak in Tongues? (Is Speaking in Tongues of God? Is It for Today?)
A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls) — Let Us Be ONE Prophecy, Part 13 of 33
A Gift that Will Set Many Free!
There is another day, a day that will happen if you let it.
I want you to be free, free from anxiety. A death warrant is out for your souls. It will get you if you let it. You must pray.
Many die from unknown causes. They are weak from attacks from the Devil who never gives up—curse after curse—toward My people. Many have given in, unable to walk.
Tongues, I’ve given you the gift of tongues from My heart to you. It is a gift that will set many free if you use it regularly. It is for you to walk holy, set free in forgiveness while you pray.
The two work together. One attacks the Devil, while you release those who have hurt you deeply, wounded your soul.
Pray for them. You can focus; you don’t have to pray in general all the time. I will give you the gift of lifeas you pray.
This is how it works. Believe in your heart you are praying for one another; though, it will come from the Holy Ghost, the words you emit that I give you to speak. Focus on these people, and pray until your tongues cease. I will tell you who to pray for, but this isn’t necessary. You can pray for anyone that way.
Believe in your heart; direct your tongues. I will fill your mouth as you speak and set people free. I will pray perfectly, as you obey, giving your life to others through prayer.
Amazing things will result! Your heart will be glad!
Watch Me do it. Prove My point. Try it now. Focus on someone who needs prayer. Believe in your heart you are praying for them as you speak words from above that fill your mouth. Pray it out, and watch them change, for I will release them from anger and all kinds of oppressions as you pray. You will see it, and it will amaze your intelligence. Many will be set free. Do it now. This is an important point.
And as you pray, forgive, release them from all kinds of cares and bondages. The two work hand in hand. You forgive and I pray through your words that I give you.
This is freedom! Set them free. Do it now; why wait when you can have the chance to move mountains, havean impact on society that many will see and feel. Your heart will be glad. Many will walk holy.
Pray for your elders. Many are not in the ministry to give life. Many are sucking you dry. They need to give up the ghost of unforgiveness and get on the bandwagon of love.
The seal of approval, you all want it. You can have it now. Why wait? You can be in Me as we speak. You can know for sure that you are sons of God, that I am in you and you are in Me. You will feel it. Your heart will be glad, and you will pray.
I will take you to heights unknown. Miracles will take place all around you as you obey. Many will be glad that you took the step of faith to lead. When all looked hopeless, you got up from your seat and prayed.
Pray. Let your heart be glad, and don’t give up. Pray until your tongues stop. This is an amazing gift that has much power to change.
Anyone can pray in tongues. It is a gift for all who obey, all who call on Me for Mercy.
Drink deeply, and let it give you life, freeing you, while you relax and find peace in a home here on earth.
We are together. Let us pray.
Living Examples, Filled to Overflowing Let Us Be ONE Prophecy, Part 15 of 33 excerpt:
It takes two to have fellowship. No more, but more will come. Start meeting two by twos until more follow. Meet once a week, and pray aloud. Strengthen yourselves, and go to the nations. They will see your light and be glad. But first, start at home. Build yourself a base, a core of believers who know Me from the bottom of their heart.
You will see great things happen in your midst, and it will be fun, exciting to watch Me work in you to others. Let them see your light. Let it shine. Let it be bold. Don’t hold back. Live a life of love.
This is an excellent article circulating on Facebook that I can’t find the origin of.
Because so few ‘Christians’ are daily praying in the Spirit, those of us who do have to pray more — and it isn’t enough. In the big picture, Satan’s kingdom is moving stronger than God’s, and America is falling into a trap, history repeating itself, again.
Christianity isn’t that hard, but we must do what the Bible says to be free, which also includes holding as a goal and implementing Ephesians 4:11-16, by the way.
American churches have substituted slick, “seeker friendly” presentations and man-made programs for what God clearly says to do.
We need to be like little children, doing the simple things we’re called to do that make the profound difference.
God has given us these gifts to be used here on Earth, now. In heaven, they won’t be needed (1 Cor. 13).
What are we waiting for?
Too sophisticated?
We need to be like children…
jeff
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One reason for praying in the Spirit
The Lord has purposely limited Himself to only acting in the earth in response to what we PRAY and what we SAY [with rare exceptions – jeff]. We know this because Jesus taught us to pray: “Thy Will be done on earth as it is IN HEAVEN.” So if we DO NOT pray, His Will DOES NOT occur.
Now, the Lord has infinite abilities, Jesus told us that with God, ALL THINGS are possible. But we come to God so often and PRAY very small prayers. And because He only responds to what we PRAY and SAY in FAITH, He will answer those very small prayers, though He is capable of FAR EXCEEDING anything that we ask or think. And that is ONE MAJOR REASON He has given us the Gift of Praying in Tongues, because it REMOVES the limits off of our prayers, by praying according to HIS PERFECT WILL.
So as the Church begins to seek after God, and pray in the Spirit, rather than only with understanding, we will see Him do MORE AND MORE than we ever thought possible.
The Father says: “I am capable of doing SO MUCH MORE than My People ask. They ask for a piece of bread when I am willing to give them a thousand fields of wheat. They ask for a penny when I have billions upon billions at My disposal. They ask for their city block while I am willing to give them a Nation. You limit me by praying small prayers. I am capable of doing infinitely beyond your ability to imagine. So pray in the Spirit daily, more and more, and you will see JUST HOW BIG A GOD I AM.”
Related:
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How to speak in other tongues as the Holy Spirit leads you
How to speak in tongues as the Holy Spirit enables you
Jim Feeney: Why Speak in Tongues? (Is Speaking in Tongues of God? Is It for Today?)
From: RevivalSchool.com
TODAY’S “UNSAVED” CHURCH
-by Andrew Strom.
It is an interesting fact that Charles Finney spent his entire ministry preaching to professing Christians. And yet he was called the greatest ‘evangelist’! What he was doing was evangelizing the church people – because he found that most of them were not living in a state of true salvation at all. The church was ‘unsaved’!
Thus his first calling was to the believers of his day – to see them converted. -Just like Jesus and the apostles were called first to the Jews – the ‘believers’ of their time. Finney found himself preaching piercing salvation messages his whole life in church buildings, Bible Colleges and so-on. The “Christians” must be saved.
Actually, you see this pattern in most Revivals down the centuries. In many cases, what Revival was, was the church coming into true SALVATION for the first time. They THOUGHT they were saved before, but they had been under a delusion. When the ‘Revivalist’ arrived and preached to them, suddenly they saw that they were undone and in a lost state, and multitudes were converted. Revival almost always begins with the church.
I believe it is no different today, especially in America where church attendance is very high (-around 40 percent) – the highest percentage in the world. Everyone agrees that there is a lot of ‘nominal’ Christianity and ’social’ Christianity going on – as well as a huge number of people who attend churches where they are told they are ’saved’ when clearly they are not.
It is difficult not to come to the conclusion that most of these churches are like “holding pens” for the damned – telling people that they are ‘OK’, when in reality they are headed for destruction. Personally, I find this very hard to take. What will God do to the preachers who are lulling the flock to sleep in this way? And when will men be found who will dare to tell the “Christians” that many are not ’saved’ at all – but still in their sins? -Such is the role of the true prophets of God. Such is the role of the coming “John the Baptists”.
Of course, Finney was hated and despised by church men for saying such things. How DARE he preach in such a way that assumed that many ‘fine church members’ were unsaved? How offensive and ill- mannered! But Finney had such a passion and a burden to REACH THE ‘CHRISTIANS’ with the gospel. -And this was exactly what God had called him to do.
Today we see exactly the same thing in the West as Finney saw in his day. We see a church that is very largely UNSAVED. A truly “saved” church (in the New Testament sense) behaves and looks and sounds utterly different to what we have today.
Even in Pentecostal/Charismatic circles we often find many “previously-saved-but-no-longer-walking-in-it” believers. Friends, this is not a state of ’salvation’. The Bible is very clear that only those who CONTINUE in New Testament Christianity and who “overcome” will be saved. These people are lost. You are either walking as a ‘new creature’ in love with Christ or you are not. If you are not walking in it then do not assume you are “saved” – no matter what some preacher tells you. It is all or nothing with God. The Bible tells us to “work out our salvation with fear and trembling”. I would be very surprised if more than a quarter of the West’s so-called “Spirit-filled” believers are actually walking with a clean heart before God. What on earth do they think will happen to them on Judgement Day?
Added to this, we have millions upon millions of ‘mainline’ believers who literally NEVER get the opportunity to find out about “FULL” salvation. -The Holy Spirit is never made real to them, and many have never been fully BAPTIZED in water, either.
Now, we have already discussed elsewhere how people became Christians in the Bible. We know that there were THREE THINGS that always needed to happen when someone wanted to become a Christian in the New Testament:
(1) Repentance
(2) Water Baptism
(3) Being filled with the Holy Spirit. [Though this was the pattern in Acts, speaking in tongues is not required to be a Christian. But many will not overcome and go to heaven if they don’t speak in tongues, because praying perfectly in the Spirit deals directly with demons – Jeff]
-Every time, these were the three things that happened STRAIGHT AWAY. (-See Acts 2:37-41, Acts 8:12-20, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 19:1-6, Acts 22:16, Heb 6:1-2, Mk 16:16-18, etc.)
As I have said before, the doctrine of “Asking Jesus into your heart” does not exist in the Bible, and personally I would come very close to calling it a lie from the pit of hell, because it falsely assures people that they are “saved” just because they have ‘prayed a little prayer’. It is very dishonest and totally unscriptural. So we know that a basic “New Testament Christian” is someone who has:
(1) Repented
(2) Been Baptized (immersed) in water, and
(3) Been filled with the Holy Spirit (-accompanied by ‘tongues’, as far as we can tell in Scripture).
So how on earth do we reach all these vast millions who are being duped with this half-Christianity of “Asking Jesus into your heart” – but never hear the full gospel? What on earth can be done to get this message through to them?
This is a burden that is very much on my heart. And I am convinced that only the coming “John-the-Baptist” ministries will have the anointing to break through the walls of ‘Religion’ to reach these people with the truth. We are talking about millions upon millions of precious souls here. And they are people who DO BELIEVE in God. But they have been lied-to, and the real truth has been denied them.
I am convinced that the coming harvest will BEGIN IN THE CHURCH. It will begin with converting the “CHRISTIANS”. -This has always been God’s order. “First in Jerusalem, then in Judea….”
I am deeply burdened for the church in the West. Let the new “Charles Finneys” arise. Let the trumpet sound go forth. The message of PIERCING REPENTANCE must be heard in the land once again. And the idol of “Mammon” must surely be one of it’s key targets.
I am convinced that such prophets must arise for Revival to come to the West in these days. “For the word of God is quick and powerful, sharper than any two-edged sword.” -May this mighty sword be brought to bear on the walls of Religion and false ‘assurance’ in these days.
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“We have two choices:
continue to blame the world for our stress
or take responsibility for own reactions
and deliberately change our emotional climate.”
– Doc Childre and Howard Martin,
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Gene Bacon is the father of Chuck Bacon, who had the dream about me that birthed the Let Us Be ONE prophecy. I discuss this in the intro, but up until now have not mentioned Chuck’s name.
jeff
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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8x_l3KOKEk]John Wimber – Gifts of the Holy Spirit (1/3)
This is from a Vineyard conference of 1985
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From: Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural, July 14-20, 2008 | pdf of Entire Interview
[RADIO BROADCAST]
Sid Roth:
My guest as a young man met elderly people
who were involved in the biggest move of miracles
in the history of America.
It was called the Azusa Street Revival.
He tells me that he met some of the people and heard
first hand what occurred, stories such as ears
that did not exist popping back into place,
arms that did not exist coming out and growing,
these are called creative miracles.
Did you know that the Azusa Street Revival
that happened in the early 1900′s was the
first integrated church in America?
God picked a one-eyed black man to lead the greatest
move of God’s Spirit in miracles I believe since the first
coming of the Messiah….
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Sid: Tell me one miracle that you heard of that occurred with William Seymour?
Tommy: The greatest that I knew of was that Brother Seymour would tell them to sing in the Spirit and then that fire would come up out of the roof, would come down and then he…
Sid: Wait, you are going too fast for my peanut brain. A fire would go through a roof?
Tommy: Yes.
Sid: Explain what you mean.
Tommy: Okay a fire would come up out of the roof and the fire would go up about fifty feet and the fire about fifty feet away from it in the sky would come down and mingle with it.
Sid: Could people see this fire?
Tommy: Oh yes, matter of fact they got many calls to the fire department, not from people in the meeting, but from people outside that would see it.
Sid: Really, it was the fire of God’s glory.
Tommy: Yes, now it wouldn’t consume, you didn’t smell any fire, but that is when the greatest miracles would happen, and he would, he got up was telling them and Brother David Garcia was there, and he said, he was the
one that told me about it
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Tommy: … And the man’s arm had been ripped out on a job related with a big machine, and it had ripped out even the shoulder.
Sid: So in other words he did not have the limb
Tommy: He didn’t have the shoulder, the arm or nothing, and he, when he prayed for him Brother Garcia said “Brother Tommy, I was standing very close where I could look right down into that socket and see the bone.”
And he said, “Brother Seymour prayed for him, and he just kind of stood there for a while with his hands on his head smiling,” “All of a sudden that bone started growing out and right behind it would come this flesh going around the bone.”
And he said it probably took about two seconds, but to him it was in slow motion. And that mans arm just grew out, and he said within a few minutes even the fingernails grew back on his fingers.
* * *
Sid: Now William Seymour prophesied about the next revival that will come, tell me about that.
Tommy: He prophesied that in about a hundred years, he did this in 1909, that there would be a…
Sid: So about a hundred years would be 2009?
Tommy: Yes, that would be about, before or after?
Sid: About, okay.
Tommy: He said another revival like unto Azusa Street, only greater, would come again, only this time it wouldn’t be in one place, it would be all over the world….
[But it’s gotta start somewhere – jeff]
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Tommy: It was the shekinah glory, it was a smoky looking kind of, one woman said kind of an orangey color, and it went on over to the young people and they all fell out in the spirit and hysterical laughter, they just couldn’t stop laughing and four brand new converts came up to Brother David and said Brother David it dawned on them and they had only the baptism a few weeks, they figured out what this stuff is and he kind of laughed and said, “What is this?” They said, “It’s God’s laughing gas.”
[TV BROADCAST]
Guest: Tommy Welchel |pdf of Entire Interview
Azusa Street Revival | It’s Supernatural with Sid Roth | Tommy Welchel
Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural!
Published on Oct 21, 2013
This week on Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural, as a young man, Tommy Welchel lived among the survivors of the Azusa Street Revival. Now he shares the impartations he received from the very people who were there!
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I was shocked when I found this online a few days ago! I was in the studio audience during this particular show — the only time I visited TBN.
I think this was during the time I was visiting Fuller Theological Seminary — checking out the library and sitting in on some classes. John Wimber (Vineyard) taught his signs and wonders class here.
There were only a handful of us in the audience, so we could hear the pre-recorded people-clapping track when the show began. And it can be heard here too.
Regarding Cecil Roebeck’s statement that I quote, soon, we all may be poor — and desperate. But why wait until then to get the Third Great Awakening, which is just real, biblical Christianity happening!
Jeff
“It’s very interesting that revivals almost inevitably
take place among the lower classes….
When that desperation turns to a quest after God….”
– Cecil Mel Roebeck
Fuller Theological Seminary
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE8N36OrnWs
The Azusa Street Revival Full Documentary
Published on Jan 15, 2013
The Azusa Street Revival was a Pentecostal revival meeting that took place in Los Angeles, California and was led by William J. Seymour, an African American preacher. It began with a meeting on April 14, 1906 at the African Methodist Episcopal Church and continued until roughly 1915.
The revival was characterized by speaking in tongues, dramatic worship services, and inter-racial mingling. The participants received criticism from secular media and Christian theologians for behaviors considered to be outrageous and unorthodox, especially at the time. Today, the revival is considered by historians to be the primary catalyst for the spread of Pentecostalism in the 20th century.
“And these signs will follow those who believe:
In My name they will cast out demons;
they will speak with new tongues….”
– Jesus
(Mark 16:17)
From: www.sidroth.org/site/DocServer/IS580Transcript_DuVall.pdf?docID=3121
Sid Roth’s speaking in tongues testimony:
When I received my supernatural language I didn’t feel anything. I didn’t hear anything. Just by faith I started speaking. The man told me to do it, I believed that he knew what he was talking about, so therefore, I could do it. I was like a child. I had like childlike faith. If they had said you could sing, you could walk on water, I would have walked on water. But then immediately after I started speaking my language the thought popped in my head, you’re making that up. And so I was kind of, James calls it, I was kind of double-minded as far as my supernatural language.
And at that time an orthodox Jewish rabbi became a believer in Jesus. And I was talking with him and a woman came up that was expecting a baby, and the doctor had said the baby was dead within her. And she walked up to me, and I’m a brand new believer, and she said, “Pray for my baby to come to life.” Now I didn’t know anything. That was a little too much for me. And so when I prayed for the baby to come back to life all I could think of doing was praying in my supernatural language, and I did it. And after she left, the rabbi said to me, “You were speaking in an ancient form of Hebrew. Where did you learn it?” I said, “Rabbi, I know Bar Mitzvah Hebrew. I know how to read it. I don’t speak too many words.” This rabbi said to me, “Sid, you prophesied that the child was with the God the Father and be at peace.” And I, Janie, I never doubted again.
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From:
SidRoth.org…
This Week’s Guest
Sid Roth with Janie DuVall
November 29 – December 5, 2010
It was NORMAL for the early believers in Messiah to walk in the Supernatural Power of God with signs and wonders commonplace – thousands healed and saved. But somehow NORMAL has been hijacked! Find out the KEY that early believers understood and get ready to become NORMAL.
From: itssupernatural.net…
Sid Roth welcomes Janie DuVall
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Janie DuVall, and we’re talking about supernatural languages. I believe that God wants to restore this gift for the last great push of God’s spirit. As I study the great men and women of God throughout history one ingredient is left out, but it’s in the record, Janie, and that is they all have spoke in supernatural languages. There was a one-eyed, uneducated African-American man that literally led the Azusa Street Revival.
JANIE: William Seymour.
SID: Most people don’t know this. If you had walked into his service the first thing you would see is a man sitting there with a box over his head. You wouldn’t be able to see his face. You would have run out. But you know what he was doing? He was praying in supernatural languages, and he would not take the box off of his head until God told him what to do.
JANIE: But you know, he’s not the only one. John G. Lake, Smith Wigglesworth, that was their key to walking in the miraculous. And all the guests that you’ve had lately, even in like the past year, I asked them, okay, what’s your secret? How come you’re seeing angels? How come you’re being translated? How come you see fast answers to prayer? How come so many people are getting healed? I prayed in supernatural languages a long time. That’s the key. And you know what the big key, but some people can still pray in supernatural languages and not have anything happen. And the reason is when you’re praying in supernatural languages you’re allowing the Holy Spirit to change you. You’re allowing him to have you walk in supernatural love and supernatural power. But if you don’t allow that change then you could be stopping it.