Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘a God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace”

Quotations from: Chuck Norris’ WND piece: Would Jesus support war?
When Joseph Farah started WorldNetDaily, I was a big fan – proudly displaying my WorldNetDaily: A Free Press for a Free People bumper sticker on my car. I thought Farah was really pro-freedom.
But then came 9/11, and Afghanistan (yuck!), and Iraq (quadruple yuck!). Farah supported all of the knee-jerk reactions, and wouldn’t print anything contrary to the corporatocracy, pro-war line. And now it seems there is no end in sight.
Chuck Norris continues Farah’s philosophy in this pro-Huckabee, Jesus-is-pro-our-wars article. Norris writes:

That’s another reason I’ve endorsed Mike Huckabee. He’s also the only presidential candidate who publicly values the Second Amendment as much as the First. He reminds Americans that our Second Amendment gun-bearing rights were given not merely as a license to hunt, but a protection against tyranny.

At least Farah, as editor in chief, must know better: the only presidential candidate line patently ignores the champion of the Constitution, 10-term congressman, Ron Paul. WND completely ignores Congressman Ron Paul and his total support of the United States Constitution (no other candidate comes close). And Paul is especially strong on the right to bear arms to protect ourselves even against our own government if it becomes tyrannical.
To justify Huckabee’s pro-preemptive war stance, the famous kick-fighter mentions a specific situation in which God told the Children of Israel to kill every man. Norris is correctly stating that Jesus already has supported war. But then Norris wants us to make the leap that because Jesus supported that war he now supports Bush’s (and Huckabee’s continuation of) The Project for a New American Century’s (PNAC) globalist wars??
God gets a bad rap for that particular kill-them-all mandate, but there is a very important, but little-known, bizarre reason why God righteously commanded the Children of Israel to preemptively kill the giants (the Genesis 6 and-after-that, Nephilim hybrids) in the promised land. Satan’s plan was to occupy Canaan with “his own seed” in advance of Abraham’s seed so they would interbreed and contaminate the human race.
Our totally holy Creator is very serious about the taking of human life. He was then and is now.
George W. Bush and our future President don’t have this same mandate, no matter what W thinks God told him about Iraq. And we must consider that anyone who supports this “kill them over there” philosophy is a murderer in heart. This mentality is polluting “the church,” sickening our nation, and turning the world against us and even Jesus!
Instead of electing another like the President we have, we should be contritely reconsidering our position and support a more Christlike, a more Prince-of-Peacelike international policy. “They’ll know us by our love.”
Norris continues:

(Of course every dagger draper must also wrestle with his caution, “for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword”!)

Will this scripture come true for America? Will America perish by the sword as China and/or Russia take us out? For based upon their own statements, Huckabee would not exercise sufficient caution when it comes to war. Only Ron Paul would. Only Ron Paul would restore our credibility. If we sow peace, we’ll reap peace. If we sow war, we’ll reap war. And we’re no longer the only big boy on the block, China for example.
WND asks:

WWJW [What would Jesus war]?

No question that Jesus Christ has called us to love our neighbors as ourselves, turn our other cheek in sacrifice for another, and pray for our enemies. And so we should. However, he also realizes criminals and terrorists will confront us and calls us to defend and protect our families and borders too.

I agree, but have we really prayed for whom the neocons say are our enemies? Do we really love Iraqi men, women, children and old folks as much as we love American men, women, children and old people? As many as hundreds of thousands of the innocent have died, and their nation is in shambles. Even most of the Christians have fled. And we’re responsible. And incredibly, many “Christians” are willing to do the same thing all over again in Iran. “Pastors” are even drum-beating for this next, preemptive war.
How would we like it if Iraq had been the stronger power and invaded us for the attrocities we really have committed around the world for decades, which included our supplying biological weapons to Sadam Hussein. Bush then played the “weapons of mass destruction” card to justify taking him out, but the real reason was because Sadam was no longer under our thumb and was getting in the way of his daddy’s New World Order’s agenda – which the Bible predicted but in no way supports.
And now Jesus’ name is besmirched because the “Christians” have been Bush’s (and now Huckabee’s) loudest supporters.

“‘Come out from among them,
And be separate
,’ says the Lord,
Touch no unclean thing.
I will receive you. (2Cor. 6:17)

Ron Paul, a sincere Christian who most evangelical leaders won’t support, believes in hands off until necessary: a strong military defense, but only to be used as a last resort and only when our families and borders are truly in peril. This is Jesus’ way. We need to separate ourselves and come out of the Antichrist, beast system.
Norris incorrectly concludes:

The baby born in a manger 2,000 years ago was not only a Savior, but a God of war. But, even more, he is a Prince of Peace who spiritually waged war on our behalves to bring us peace with God and a promise to live forever in heaven.

Jesus isn’t just a Prince of Peace, He is THE Prince of Peace who resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

James 4:1 (WEB) Where do wars and fightings among you come from? Don’t they come from your pleasures that war in your members? 2 You lust, and don’t have. You kill, covet, and can’t obtain. You fight and make war. You don’t have, because you don’t ask. 3 You ask, and don’t receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it for your pleasures. 4 You adulterers and adulteresses [America?], don’t you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who lives in us yearns jealously”? 6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” 7 Be subject therefore to God. But resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament, mourn, and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you.

May the pro-preemptive-war ‘church’ humble themselves and repent to the world for what they’ve done, or we will all pay the consequences. Ron Paul is our chance, our God-given chance to repent. Too many Bush and Huckabee supporting, evangelical ‘churches’ are merely “partysville” – all smiles but no real joy and peace within. The remedy is above in verse 9 & 10, and politically, I believe, in Ron Paul’s “humble” foreign policy.
Chuck Norris ends with this certainly well meaning but very problematic prayer:

Jesus, I accept that you were born with a mission to die. I believe you spiritually waged war on the cross by taking the punishment for me there to pay for my sins. I open the door of my heart right now and invite you in as my Lord and Savior. Take control of my life. Teach me to be your follower. Thank you for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. In Your name I pray. Amen.

This is problematic, because praying “Jesus…take control of my life” while publicly supporting unnecessary mass killing is like the popular, female, ‘Christian’ singer who sings “Jesus Take the Wheel” before millions while clearly disregarding the Apostle Paul’s mandate that Christian women dress modestly.
We can thank God for forgiving our sins and giving us eternal life, believing the promise to live forever in heaven, like Norris states. But will this promise apply to us if we aren’t truly peacemakers?

According to the Prince of Peace, we can only be children of God if we really are peacemakers:

Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called children of God. (Mt. 5:9)

Jesus doesn’t mess around. He doesn’t just say things and not mean them. Every word of the Bible can be trusted, and we’ll be judge by it.
If we hate we’re in trouble. He wants us pure, like Him. Our goal is too small. And love, peace and joy is just around the corner – that blissful corner that we take to live in Him!
The Bible also says this about who the children of God are:

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God. (Rom. 8:14)

We just can’t do our own thing and think we’re in because positive-encouragement-only “Christian” music and “Christian” preachers say so, telling us what we want to hear. But what does the Bible say? We must be led by the Spirit, Who is the Prince of Peace, not preemptive war.
We should really, seriously pray: Lord Jesus, the Prince of Peace, take the wheel. Really.
Quoting Chuck’s prayer, but said differently: Jesus, take control of my life. Teach me to be your follower. Teach us whom you want us to vote for, and teach us how to love the Iraqis, Iranians and even our worst enemy as much as we love ourselves?
Ron Paul is a true peacemaker and child of God. Now is our chance!
Ron Paul 2008!
Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee——————dom!!!!!!!!!!!
Power to the people!!!!!!!!!!!!

May we forever be ‘ONE’ in Christ Jesus, THE PRINCE of PEACE – right with Him and right with the nations – having clean hands and a pure heart – peacemakers.
Jeff Fenske : )

Chuck Norris: Would Jesus support war?

Related:
Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!

6 thoughts on “Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘a God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace”

  1. Vince

    AMEN!It’s human nature to view God’s nature to be the same as ours. Human nature wants God to torture and mame those evil people to teach “them” a lesson. The only way to LOVE our enemy is to die to self and allow Jesus Christ to re-create us
    Shalom,
    Vince

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  3. Hi
    Peace is so much needed if the humans have to survive on this planet called Earth.
    Would you allow me that I copy/paste this write-up on my blog site under the title “Would Jesus Support War?”?!
    Kindly visit my blogsite for charitable discussion on the posts there.
    Thanks
    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  4. Hi
    I think you won’t mind, if I copy/paste a post of mine titled”A peaceful man that Muhammad was”:
    The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation mostly because of the mislead Mullah/clergy that serves the purpose of rulers have been given to understand that Islam is a religion of violence, converting others by sword and punishing those who leave Islam by killing them. This suited the rulers as also the clergy for keeping the public subjugated. But this has been the religion of the establishment that may be called as MullahIslam or MullahShariah; this has nothing to do with Islam/Quran/Muhammad. Under this thread I intend to uncover the yet hidden face of true Islam as I understand from Quran and the life of Muhammad, both are open books, no mystery. The true face of peaceful and human loving Muhammad and his religion Islam which is truly speaking moral and peaceful, is very close to the present day concepts as would be seen here.The first forty years i.e. before Muhammad was appointed ProphetMessenger by GodAllahYHWH has been offered as a reasonable argument/challenge in Quran before Infidels-of-Mecca, and they could not deny its truthfulness.
    Muhammad had a marvelous record of a peace loving person for 40+13+2=55 years, he joined in welfare activities if there was any inMecca, he helped the needy and in distress, he stood for the human cause, he never harmed any person. His record in these 55 years is clean by any standards.
    Thanks
    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  5. Jeff Fenske

    Paar,
    You have my permission to post this on your site. Thanks for asking.
    As to your “A peaceful man that Muhammad was” comment. History apparently shows otherwise. For example, Craig Winn’s research: http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_Islams_Terrorist_Dogma_in_Muhammads_Own_Words.Islam.
    I’m into real Christianity, and into investigating what is hindering Jesus’ heartcry for ‘ONE’ from happening. This is my focus. I don’t have many posts in which I try to refute other religions, because I think that once people see real Christianity happen, the truth will become evident to many. “Then the world will know,” Jesus said in John 17.
    The light will be that bright!!
    Currently, Christianity in America, for the most part, isn’t. I’m sorry that this is what the world sees, but I believe the picture will get much better, hopefully soon. Though there will always be the false version, because of the great deception. The Devil is a liar, and he’s pretty good at it. And many “Christians” aren’t careful enough in their research.
    I visited your site. There is no doubt in my mind that Jesus is God. See comment #6 at http://tobefree.press/2008/02/28/coasttocoastam-censored-dr-bill-deagle-interview-feb-26th.
    God bless—may we be one—in Christ!
    Jeff Fenske : )

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