Pastor Chuck Baldwin: SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES — "Why is it so difficult for modern Christians–especially our pastors and preachers–to understand that this unholy union of Big Government and Big Religion is as evil and sinful today as it ever was?"

From: News With Views

SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES

By Chuck Baldwin
November 17, 2010
NewsWithViews.com

Both Big Government And Big Religion The Enemy Of Freedom

Almost immediately after Adam’s fall, Lucifer and his minions collaborated with evil men to usurp God’s authority and sovereignty. And nowhere is God more sovereign than in the heart and conscience of man. In the spirit world, the First Commandment (“Thou shalt have no other gods before me”) is the battleground that is most fought over. The war for man’s heart and soul is never-ending.

Nimrod was the first would-be tyrant to try and bring the world into a global “New World Order.” His handiwork produced the Tower of Babel, which brought about a cataclysmic judgment from Jehovah. However, while Nimrod was the first globalist to try and unify the nations against God, he was certainly not the last. The Pharaohs, Darius, Artaxerxes, Cyrus, Alexander, Nebuchadnezzar, the Caesars, and hundreds like them have all brought their tyrannical rule over the hearts of men. And their ideas and passions are as alive and active in the world today as ever.

With every would-be world tyrant, there is one constant: the unholy marriage between a supranational government and Big Religion. If Jehovah God made anything clear in the Mosaic model of government, it was the fact that–until Christ Himself comes to occupy both offices–the offices of Priest and King were to be eternally separate. At least one Old Testament Jewish king learned that lesson the hard way.

Yet, Big Government and Big Religion have always come together for the purpose of enslaving the masses. The devilish duo of Big Government and Big Religion killed the Old Testament prophets. They hung Jesus on the cross and persecuted the early Church. They murdered masses during the Dark Ages; they managed the Holocaust; and their obnoxious offspring are still at work today. This criminal cabal has been the bane of genuine faith and personal liberty since the beginning of time.

When Colonial America fired that shot heard around the world and fought their way to independence, they broke free, not only from the political domination of the Crown, but also from the religious domination of a State Church. No longer would citizens be required to join a particular church in order to hold public office. No longer would citizens be required to financially support churches and institutions they deemed to be offensive to their spiritual convictions. No longer could a religious institution use the power and force of civil government to subjugate men to its tenets and, yes, tentacles. Indeed, the apostate kingdom created by Constantine’s spiritual whoredom ended at the eastern shore of America!

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Then, why is it so difficult for modern Christians–especially our pastors and preachers–to understand that this unholy union of Big Government and Big Religion is as evil and sinful today as it ever was? Why are they unwilling to recognize that the same devilish system that plagued the Church throughout the ages–suspended only temporarily by the successful revolution for American independence–is rearing its ugly head again? Why are they unwilling to believe that many of America’s leaders (from both parties) routinely give themselves to luciferian rituals, such as those annual dances around the fire at the Bohemian Grove? Why is it so hard to believe that we have leaders (from both parties) who have given themselves to dark, secret societies, such as Skull and Bones? Why are they not suspicious when certain religious schools and institutions repeatedly produce many of the leaders (from both parties) who seem to universally take America down the same path of globalism?

As most Christians should know, The Beast of Revelation is as much a SYSTEM as it is a person. As the Apostle John warned, the “spirit of antichrist . . . even now already is it in the world.” (I John 4:3) He also warned, “Even now are there many antichrists.” (I John 2:18)

Any Big Government/Big Religion system that seeks to bring nations into global unity, enshrine a politically correct theology of universalism, establish Church/State uniformity, and marginalize independent, nonconformist ideology is nothing more than the emergence of another Tower of Babel or Beast-like system! And, dear Christian friend, has it occurred to you that our central government in Washington, D.C., is currently engaged in all of the above?

Both political parties–including most of our national leaders and news media–actively promote globalism; universalism is, without a doubt, the unofficial–but clearly understood–national religion; and anyone who holds nonconformist views (i.e., pro-life, Jesus-only theology, anti-UN, anti-illegal immigration, questioning official government explanations of national tragedies, etc.) is being viciously ridiculed, impugned, and marginalized by virtually everyone in the national press corps and central government. Yes, I am saying it, THE BEAST IS EMERGING IN WASHINGTON, D.C.!

The powers that be in both Big Government and Big Religion want to control both our hearts and our minds. They cannot tolerate dissent. Mind you: they do not care if one is Republican or Democrat, because at the national level, both major parties are marching in the same beastly direction. They do not care if one is conservative or liberal, because the leaders of both camps are, likewise, marching in lockstep to the tune being played by The Beast. They do not care if one is Jewish, Catholic, or Protestant, because at the highest levels, these religions are committing whoredom with The Beast.

If a pastor or preacher is going to be true to his calling today, he must be willing to adopt the philosophy of the late, great Charles Haddon Spurgeon, who said, “The more prominent you are in Christ’s service, the more certain are you to be the butt of calumny [slander]. I have long ago said farewell to my character. I lost it in the earlier days of my ministry by being a little more zealous than suited a slumbering age. And I have never been able to regain it except in the sight of Him who judges all the earth, and in the hearts of those who love me for my work’s sake.”

Any desire for promotion, pleasure, riches, or fame will quickly make one a servant of The Beast. And, I’m afraid, that is exactly what many of today’s pastors and preachers have become.

The fight for independence was as much for the freedom of the heart and mind as it was for the freedom of a State or nation. In fact, one cannot enslave the latter until he first enslaves the former. And this is what is currently at stake: the freedom of the heart and soul to be governed by God and no other! And this battle will never be won–at least not nationally–as long as Christians and pastors are unwilling to recognize the enemy for what it is: “spiritual wickedness in high places.”

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Charles Obadiah “Chuck” Baldwin (born May 3, 1952) is an American politician and founder-pastor of Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. He was the presidential nominee of the Constitution Party for the 2008 U.S. Presidential election and had previously been its nominee for U.S. vice president in 2004. He hosts a daily one-hour radio program, “Chuck Baldwin Live”, and writes a daily editorial column carried on its website, on News With Views, on VDare, and in several newspapers.

As a Republican Party member, Baldwin was state chair of the Florida Moral Majority in the 1980s. However, during the 2000 campaign of Republican George W. Bush for U.S. President, Baldwin left the party and began a long period of criticism of Bush. Baldwin endorsed U.S. Representative Ron Paul for the 2008 Republican nomination for president, and Paul in turn endorsed Baldwin for the presidency in the 2008 general election.

Baldwin supports ending U.S. involvement in the United Nations, reducing U.S. income taxes and repeal of the Patriot Act. He would withdraw troops from Iraq and seek to end illegal immigration by enforcing immigration laws. He supports the gold standard, the right to keep and bear arms, homeschooling, and pro-life legislation such as the Sanctity of Life Act.

Sid Roth: The missing ingredient, speaking in tongues — "I believe that God wants to restore this gift for the last great push of God’s spirit"

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Sid Roth’s speaking in tongues testimony:

When I received my supernatural language I didn’t feel anything. I didn’t hear anything. Just by faith I started speaking. The man told me to do it, I believed that he knew what he was talking about, so therefore, I could do it. I was like a child. I had like childlike faith. If they had said you could sing, you could walk on water, I would have walked on water. But then immediately after I started speaking my language the thought popped in my head, you’re making that up. And so I was kind of, James calls it, I was kind of double-minded as far as my supernatural language.

And at that time an orthodox Jewish rabbi became a believer in Jesus. And I was talking with him and a woman came up that was expecting a baby, and the doctor had said the baby was dead within her. And she walked up to me, and I’m a brand new believer, and she said, “Pray for my baby to come to life.” Now I didn’t know anything. That was a little too much for me. And so when I prayed for the baby to come back to life all I could think of doing was praying in my supernatural language, and I did it. And after she left, the rabbi said to me, “You were speaking in an ancient form of Hebrew. Where did you learn it?” I said, “Rabbi, I know Bar Mitzvah Hebrew. I know how to read it. I don’t speak too many words.” This rabbi said to me, “Sid, you prophesied that the child was with the God the Father and be at peace.” And I, Janie, I never doubted again.

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It was NORMAL for the early believers in Messiah to walk in the Supernatural Power of God with signs and wonders commonplace – thousands healed and saved. But somehow NORMAL has been hijacked! Find out the KEY that early believers understood and get ready to become NORMAL.


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Sid Roth welcomes Janie DuVall

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Janie DuVall, and we’re talking about supernatural languages. I believe that God wants to restore this gift for the last great push of God’s spirit. As I study the great men and women of God throughout history one ingredient is left out, but it’s in the record, Janie, and that is they all have spoke in supernatural languages. There was a one-eyed, uneducated African-American man that literally led the Azusa Street Revival.

JANIE: William Seymour.

SID: Most people don’t know this. If you had walked into his service the first thing you would see is a man sitting there with a box over his head. You wouldn’t be able to see his face. You would have run out. But you know what he was doing? He was praying in supernatural languages, and he would not take the box off of his head until God told him what to do.

JANIE: But you know, he’s not the only one. John G. Lake, Smith Wigglesworth, that was their key to walking in the miraculous. And all the guests that you’ve had lately, even in like the past year, I asked them, okay, what’s your secret? How come you’re seeing angels? How come you’re being translated? How come you see fast answers to prayer? How come so many people are getting healed? I prayed in supernatural languages a long time. That’s the key. And you know what the big key, but some people can still pray in supernatural languages and not have anything happen. And the reason is when you’re praying in supernatural languages you’re allowing the Holy Spirit to change you. You’re allowing him to have you walk in supernatural love and supernatural power. But if you don’t allow that change then you could be stopping it.

David Bercot's CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About War — Jesus taught his followers to love their enemies. How literally did the early Christians take Jesus' teachings?

The evangelicals almost 100% support for what have proven to be immoral wars is totally reverse-Christian.

We really need to get right in our hearts in this issue for real Christianity to happen among us — to be safe in God — to have the world’s respect — and so God will be glorified through His people who are finally respectable.

“Then the world will know,” Jesus said in John 17 — when we become one with each other in Himself!

I will say that I don’t totally agree with Bercot on pacifism though. We need to be led by what we know in our heart is right — keeping step with the Holy Spirit. And angry/unforgiving people (most American ‘Christians’?) are going to have a hard time hearing from God in this area. I do believe there is a place to defend people and even countries, but we’ll know it’s right when if this time would come.

Most wars are not just wars, especially Bush War I and Bush War II. Did Afghanistan or Iraq attack us? And what ever happened to forgiving, instead of revenge? Maybe if Christians would forgive the Muslims they’d be more interested in researching what really happened on 9/11. Jet fuel cannot take down steel buildings. The proof is at my other main site, ToBeFree. The ‘church’ has been had, duped, so that they’re complicit in these huge attrocities! And now they’re even going through the naked body scanners?!!

We need to really re-assess this important subject, especially since Sarah Palin, John Hagee, and others are insisting we nuke Iran without even knowing for sure Iran has nukes! And they totally ignore our long, dark history in manipulating Iran’s government covertly. To many evangelicals, humbling ourselves, apology and discussion isn’t even an option. We solve everything through power-over: WAR verses What Would Jesus Do? and what would the Holy Spirit have us do?

And Sarah and John don’t even call Israel to apologize for their pride and arrogance in their numerous and egregious inhumane atrocities, partly from their lack of willingness to forgive too.

Now we are our own gods. We do our own thing. “We don’t need the Holy Spirit to lead us for we have the Bible” — and we have nukes!

I saw a John Hagee conference in which many famous evangelical leaders and I think even some politicians attended. The singers sang “Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit,” while John led this “bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” rally.

Hagee might as well be singing: “I did it MY WAY.” Strikers are disqualified from being church leaders according to Paul’s overseer qualifications in 1 Timothy and Titus, by the way.

And soon it may be “bomb, bomb, bomb America.” God won’t save a people who reject His leadership.

What goes around comes around. We reap what we sow.

Maybe Israel deserves getting bombed, for what they’ve done so hatefully to others. And maybe we do too for our unrepentant covert and overt operations/manipulations in God’s name over many decades! Ever thought of that? If we get nuked or EMP’d, who is to blame? We certainly don’t deserve God’s protection at this point. Does Israel?

It was God’s will that Assyria and Babylon conquered Israel and took them into captivity because they had stubbornly ignored His leading. Consider this, part 6 of my “Let Us Be ONE” prophesy: “I lift My hand of protection when My people are far away.”

Why 9/11? | Forgiveness is the Key to Repentance

10/3/01

There is fear in My people—a fear that is great. You need not dismay, for I am with you. I am in everything you do, non-stop. I never cease.

Feel My hurt, imagine the pain, when you go your own way. I am in you, waiting. Let’s be one. Let’s do it.

There is another thing: a disaster has struck. People have been hurt, suicide bombings attacking towers. Why?

Do you not know that I lift My hand of protection when My people are far away?

We are one; we need not be far away. There is a way that seems right to a man. Disaster will result unless we forgive.

See the fallen; see them rise up and be refreshed as you give them a kiss, a holy kiss from above, pulling them up, giving them aid when they are down.

Let Me be in control; let Me lead your life. Do not be full of error, wondering this or that, going to and fro, not sure of which direction, being unable to forgive. Forgiveness is the key to repentance.

I forgave. I hung there and gave My life so you can have freedom. I hurt so you can walk in humility and be refreshed. You must take it and run, the precious gift of forgiveness, but not just for yourself, for others.

Forgive and be free.

Jesus said: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.” So where does that leave the warmongers? What is the opposite of blessing for the warmongers? And whose children are they — those who won’t repent for supporting the Illuminati Bush wars that are actually taking out countries who would oppose Satan’s one-world government? See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

We need to wash our hands and be clean. It’s probably too late to save America, but at least we can save ourselves from hellfire for wishing evil on people who didn’t even do anything to us.

We need to be way more careful. Today’s ‘Christianity’ is far different from real Christianity. Warmongering is a stench in God’s eyes and others.

What does the Bible really say?

What is the Holy Spirit saying? Hardly anyone seems to be hearing God anymore. What’s up with that?

And what does early Christian history say?

Jeff
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David Bercot's CD teaching: How to Harmonize Paul and James | "Once Luther remarked that he would give his doctor’s beret to anyone who could reconcile James and Paul."

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David Bercot. James wrote, ““Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? …You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone.” But Paul said, “If Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. …But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness.”
Harmonizing these seemingly contradictory passages is no mere theological exercise. No, the answer to this apparent contradiction lies at the very heart of Christianity.This 3-CD set consists of two audio CDs and one text CD-ROM which can be read on any computer.
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Martin Luther’s Subordinate Bible Books: Hebrews, James, Jude & Revelation

I transcribed this years ago from: Here I Stand: A Life of Martin Luther, by Roland H. Bainton, 1978, p. 259-261.

Luther read the New Testament in light of the Pauline message that the just shall live by faith and not by works of the law. That this doctrine is not enunciated through the New Testament with equal emphasis and appears to be denied in the book of James did not escape Luther, and in his preface to the New Testament of 1522 James was stigmatized as “an epistle of straw.” Once Luther remarked that he would give his doctor’s beret to anyone who could reconcile James and Paul. Yet he did not venture to reject James from the canon of Scripture [not true – editor], and on occasion earned his own beret by effecting a reconciliation. “Faith,” he wrote, “is a living, restless thing. It cannot be inoperative. We are not saved by works: but if there be no works there must be something amiss with faith.” This was simply to put a Pauline construction on James. The conclusion was a hierarchy of values within the New Testament. First Luther would place the Gospel of John, then the Pauline Epistles and First Peter, after them the three other Gospels, and in a subordinate place Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation.

David Pawson on Paul and James: Paul was defending Gentiles from Jewish *works-of-the-law* legalism; James was defending Jews from Gentile license to sin. — When Paul says ‘works’ he means *works of the law,* but James means *actions.* — “Faith without actions cannot save you.” — FAITH + ACTIONS = SAVING FAITH!
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David Bercot CD teaching: What the Early Christians Believed About Imputed Righteousness. Is salvation simply a heavenly bookkeeping transaction, where the righteousness of Christ is credited to Christians whether or not they have any actual holiness in themselves?

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D. Bercot. What the Early Christians Believed About Imputed Righteousness. Is salvation simply a heavenly bookkeeping transaction, where the righteousness of Christ is credited to Christians whether or not they have any actual holiness in themselves? What did the early Christians believe on this subject? 
Note: This CD is included in the Atonement set described above. If you are ordering that set, there is no need to order this CD separately.
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David Bercot's CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About Salvation — Did the early Christians believe that we saved by faith alone? Does obedience play a role in salvation? What the early Christians believed may surprise you.

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D. Bercot. What The Early Christians Believed About Salvation. Did the early Christians believe that we saved by faith alone? Does obedience play a role in salvation? What the early Christians believed may surprise you.
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David Bercot CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About Tithing and Fasting? "You might be surprised to know…"

“You might be surprised to know that the tithe,
as it’s taught in churches today,
is not something that anyone has taken from the New Testament
or from the early church.

It actually came into being after Constantine legalized Christianity.”

– David Bercot
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from this disc

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D. Bercot. What The Early Christians Believed About Tithing and Fasting. One of the questions we are most frequently asked is: “What did the early Christians believe about tithing? Did they teach literal tithing, or did they simply teach voluntary giving?” In this message, Bercot answers this question in depth. He also discusses what the primitive Christians believed about fasting—including how they fasted.
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David Bercot's CD teaching: Dispensationalism exposed as a modern invention contrary to the historic faith!

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Prior to the late 1800s, no Christians—evangelical, catholic, or liberal—believed in Dispensationalism. Today, most evangelicals accept without question the tenets of Dispensationalism as exemplified in the Scofield Study Bible. This is not surprising as evangelicals have been blind to the doctrine of the Two Kingdoms and have no real understanding of the kingdom of God. But what is shocking is that so many kingdom Christians have heartily embraced this new doctrine. In this message, Bercot exposes Dispensationalism as a modern innovation that is contrary to the historic Christian faith. It is also at odds with specific New Testament teaching and the facts of modern history.
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David Bercot's CD teaching: Separation from the World — What the Early Christians Believed About Separation from the World. D. Bercot. The Bible exhorts us: “Adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” So…

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What the Early Christians Believed About Separation from the World. D. Bercot. The Bible exhorts us: “Adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” So unless we want to be an enemy of God, we need to live a life of separation from the world. This is how Christians lived when the church was still young.
In this message, Bercot pinpoints five areas where the early Christians lived differently than the world around them: 
● Material riches and job employment
● Entertainment
● Participation in government
● Modesty and dress
● Purity and marital fidelity
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David Bercot's CD teaching: Modest Dress and Cosmetics — How literally did the early Christians take Peter's exortation?

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D. Bercot. Peter wrote, “Do not let your adornment be outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on apparel—rather let it be the hidden person of the heart.” But just how literally did the early Christians take that apostolic commandment? Bercot quotes extensively from Scripture and the early Christian writings to answer that question. A challenging message!
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David Bercot's CD teaching: What the Early Christians Believed About Entertainment — including sports. The early Christians were different from the world of their day.

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David Bercot's CD teaching: The Claims of Rome — have no basis

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The Roman Catholic Church claims that Peter was the first pope. It further claims that the pope, or bishop of Rome, has been vested with primary authority over all other Christians as “Christ’s vicar on earth.” The Catholic Church also claims that the pope is infallible when defining matters of faith and morals. 
But is this what Christians originally believed? Bercot quotes from Scripture and the early Christians to demonstrate that Rome’s claims have no basis.
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David Bercot's CD teaching: What the Early Christians Believed About Venerating Images and Praying to Saints?

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D. Bercot. What the Early Christians Believed About Venerating Images and Praying to Saints. Did the early Christians use images or icons? Did they pray to saints, Mary, or anyone other than God?
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Ex-Illuminati Interviewed by Henry Makow

What’s really going on in the Catholic church is discussed in video #4

“It’s rotten at the top, for sure.”

– Mary Ann

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Children Sacrificed by Illuminati –Defector “Mary Anne”

by Henry Makow, Ph.D.

The Illuminati sacrifice children in rituals eight times a year, “Mary Anne,”  an Illuminati defector who had been groomed for high political office, told me Sept 21, 2008 .

I spoke to Mary Anne again last week. She said new and disturbing memories had surfaced. I will present her incredible new information tomorrow evening in “Part Two.”

In preparation, I am summarizing my 2008 interview here for people who don’t have 45 min to listen to it. Much of what she says in both interviews is simply outrageous. I can’t vouch for any of it. But it is consistent with the testimony of other defectors, Svali, Sue Ford and Cathy O’Brien.

The Illuminati count on people to be incredulous. That’s their protection. The more egregious their crimes, the safer they are.

Mary Anne sounds convincing to me. Why would anyone defy the most powerful people in the world? The first interview is available here so you can decide for yourself. Also, both interviews, although 14 months apart, are consistent. People who invent stories rarely can keep track of them.

Entire Article Here

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9UX2KA0mDE]Ex-Illuminati Interviewed by Henry Makow-1 of 5

thefifthseal | September 22, 2008 | 182 likes, 23 dislikes

On September 21, 2008, Henry Makow, on the Republic Broadcasting Network, interviewed an ex-Illuminati member named ‘Mary Ann.’

http://www.henrymakow.com
http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/
http://thesenatorhillary.blogspot.com

Continue reading “Ex-Illuminati Interviewed by Henry Makow”

After America Went Down Music: Our Demise Theme [Barber: "Adagio for Strings"] / The Demons Rejoice Dance Mix [Dj Tiesto] ||| WWWIII ||| "Once saved always saved" + pre-tribulation rapture + old covenant law tithing + "Support Bush no matter what"/dis the peacemakers and Ron Paul = Doomsday! ||| Where were the Bonhoeffers and therefore the disciples of Christ?!!

Our End
Our Legacy
Our Perspective
Our Bad Doctrine!

Sad
&
Shameful

We had it all!

We’ve been Platooned!

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfxqZagHXbM]Platoon Soundtrack

theme from the movie!
Composer – Samuel Barber

• • •

Our End
Our Legacy
Their Perspective

The world parties;
though, some feel a tinge of pain,
a bit of guilt for being so happy
as they see our body parts strewn all over.

Where were the Bonhoeffers,
the disciples of Christ??

AMAZING song – actually!
This first one has 3.5 million hits!

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lOB0my97SA]DJ Tiesto – Adagio for strings

• • •

Longer version with coherent ending
Play over and over to lose weight.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGfq57asAzA]Dj Tiesto-Adagio For Strings

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Why We Got Jacked

What goes around comes around

Did we ever apologize?

Or were we too proud?

Sorry…?

Where were the Bonhoeffers,
and therefore
where were the disciples of Christ?!!

“The world wants to know!”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECQeLQURNuw]

Didn’t we learn from history
(pastors in Nazi Germany),
God’s written word
(what Paul really said),
and the HOLY Spirit
Who was supposed to
lead us into all truth?!

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Related:

The ‘church’ is responsible:

The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit?

Are you ready to meet your Maker?

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way |
Who are the Children of God?

Let’s get ready!

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08:
“It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done
for MY MEN have been REJECTED …
Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL …
FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last …
Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE
and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me
when others are On The BOAT With You”

– God

• • •

Zeitgeist | The Response

Related:
Zeitgeist Refuted [Final Cut]: Film refutes part 1 of Zeitgeist, which distorts history to portray Jesus as a myth
G. Edward Griffin: “ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM” — A CRITICAL REVIEW [many comments]
[7-minute video] Did Zeitgeist Destroy Your Faith In Jesus Christ (Jesus vs Horus) — This online movie has single handedly wounded and infiltrated the truth movement by telling truths about politics but lying about the Salvation of all men!
Mark Dice: Christophobics, Jesus Haters, and Zeitgeist’s Claim that “Jesus Never Even Existed”

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Zeitgeist Response – Part 3

John Hagee: Unrepentant Heretic? — Today, churchgoers stand hand in hand with a Jewish people who would crucify Christ again if He walked their streets.

A system of eschatological escapism and heresy begun in the mid-nineteenth century British Isles today feeds on Christian fundamentalist idealism and desire to please anti-Christ Jews. It has brought Christian evangelicalism to a shocking state. The church is embarrassed to name Christ to those He first came to redeem—the lost sheep of the house of Israel. It disobeys Christ’s great commission to spread the gospel to the whole world, starting with Jerusalem.

From: TruthTellers.org

National Prayer Network

HAGEE: UNREPENTANT HERETIC

By Harmony Daws
23 Nov 10

A Christian recently wrote to me asking for more clarity about John Hagee, whom I have called a heretic. Hagee has tried to defend himself against this oft-made charge, even revising his book and carefully denying belief in a dual covenant where Jews can be saved apart from Christ. Yet in his Christians United for Israel conferences held in most major cities, he enforces a strict policy of not mentioning Jesus, forbidding attendees to attempt to convert them. Hagee zealously trumpets the cause of political Zionism, believing Jewish control of all Palestine will hasten the Rapture, and puts this priority far ahead of bringing Christ to the Jewish people.

Hagee is not alone in believing and teaching that Christians have a moral duty to support the physical, political dominance of Jews in Palestine regardless of their spiritual condition before God. This has not always been the case. Most Christians once prioritized evangelism to Jews and expansion of Christian civilization; they believed the Jews would return to the Holy Land only as a result of converting to obedient faith in Christ. Today, that truth has been lost. As it eroded, so did the American church’s sense of responsibility to evangelize the Jewish people. Today, all major Christian Zionist organizations actively discourage evangelism to Jews, preferring to expedite political cooperation for the conquest of the Promised Land. Inappropriate Zionist goals have also misshaped the American church’s view of the Arabs of the Mideast; siding with Israel has made Christians angry antagonists, not evangelists, to the one billion plus Muslims in the world today.

Thoughtful Christians need to take a much harder look at this incredible development. Today, churchgoers stand hand in hand with a Jewish people who would crucify Christ again if He walked their streets. Judaism and Israel does crucify Him by forbidding His missionaries, banning His Bible, and reviling Him in Jewish sacred writings. The alliance between evangelicals and Jews is both strange and unholy, yet only half the alliance—the Jewish activists who tentatively partner with believers—seem aware of its forced, unnatural and temporary status. Christians, with a naïve and self-betraying ardor, embrace and fund the Jewish people, seeking the benediction of its rabbis and the partnership of its activists. Let’s again look closely at the state of spirituality in Christian Zionist organizations, comparing their activities to what is mandated by the Bible. We have to ask, “Can any sincere Christian know these facts and still take part?”

No Christ in Christians United for Israel

[…]

Away from Spiritual Roots

The 2009 Jews for Jesus study is titled, How Christian is Christian Zionism?” It retells the shift from religious Christian Zionism to political Christian Zionism, from a church focused on sharing Christ with Jews to a church focused on getting the Jews into political power in Israel. Stephen Sizer, author of Christian Zionism: Roadmap to Armageddon, points out that most Christians used to believe the Jews would inherit Palestine as a result of converting to Christ. Although some Christians had always believed the Jews would rule Palestine before finding Jesus, the idea began to gather real steam about the time that Theodore Herzl was pioneering political Zionism in the late nineteenth century.

In 1909, C. I. Scofield forever changed the landscape of American Christianity with his annotated Bible. Scofield taught that certain events must occur before Jesus can return and rapture the faithful to heaven. Perhaps most importantly, the Jews must be reinstated in Palestine. Scofield’s work carried on the legacy of late-nineteenth century eschatologist John Nelson Darby, who is considered the father of modern Dispensationalist theology and was a respected explainer of End Times theology.

Darby believed the church will be raptured before any tribulation occurs, as did Scofield—and as do Hagee, Tim LaHaye and other contemporary hasteners of Armageddon. Since believers will enjoy a quick stage-left exit, according to these pastors, the church should do everything it can to hasten the end of the age—including getting the Jews into dominion in the Holy Land. Darby and modern dispensationalists teach that the Jews are still under God’s unconditional blessing, even in rebellion; their vision of the ongoing Abrahamic covenant means that despite rejection—even persecution—of Christ and His followers, the right of all Jews to consider themselves God’s chosen people and occupy Palestine as a nation remains unaltered. These theologians laid the groundwork for a Christian Zionism intent on reinstating Jews in rebellious conquest of the Promised Land and thus signaling the church’s elevator ride to heaven.

According to the Jews for Jesus report, this uncharitable emphasis truly began to cut off Christian evangelism to Jews around 1970. “ It was only after the establishment of the State of Israel and indeed after the recapture of Jerusalem in 1967 that we began to see the rise of a non-biblical or rather a political Christian Zionism that divorced itself from Jewish evangelism.” Scofield’s seeds were in full bloom at this point. A church intensely focusing on the rapture has less and less interest in saving Jewish souls in the here and now.

A system of eschatological escapism and heresy begun in the mid-nineteenth century British Isles today feeds on Christian fundamentalist idealism and desire to please anti-Christ Jews. It has brought Christian evangelicalism to a shocking state. The church is embarrassed to name Christ to those He first came to redeem—the lost sheep of the house of Israel. It disobeys Christ’s great commission to spread the gospel to the whole world, starting with Jerusalem.

Is there any worse description of heresy?


Harmony Grant is a writer for National Prayer Network. To greater understand the illogic behind hate laws, read her article “Top Eleven Reasons You Should Fight Hate Laws.”

Entire Article Here
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Related:
John Hagee – Enforce UN Thought Crimes Law
Preemptive-Striker John Hagee Endorses 100-Years-in-Iraq John McCain

John Hagee: “Jesus Did Not Come To Earth To Be the Messiah”
Pastor Baldwin: Ron Paul’s Israel Problem [Evangelicals Led Astray?]
John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran
(video) Roots of Christian Zionism: How Scofield Sowed Seeds of Apostasy — The ‘Angry’ Evangelicals – Praying for War instead of “Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God” – Jesus
12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
All of my Israel posts at ToBeFree
All of my Israel’s Getting Jacked posts at ToBeFree

Drudge kicking demon butt on the naked body scanners and full body pat downs! Will we help him? What Would Jesus Do? What would Jesus have us do? Get ready for Auschwitz?? Seriously, the pastors are almost totally silent as the sheep willingly show their naked bodies to government agents.

No nakedizing radiating scanner for me.
I went for the full body pat down
at Fresno, California on 10/31.

“We have an opt out.”
And I was the only one.
Everyone else went through the nakedizer!!!

Where is your line in the sand?
Will you stand up for what is right?

Satan wants us all physically and emotionally stripped naked —
ready for the death camps.

It won’t be long
unless we all say enough is enough now!

– Jeff

Breaking The Will Of The People:
The Real Purpose Of Body Scanners

Benjamin Franklin on naked body scanners:
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety”

All 45 of my Naked Body Scanners posts at ToBeFree

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Drudge Report
11/22/10

He’s been hitting the scanners hard.
Now he’s going after the pat downs.

 

The Nick Vujicic Challenge: I Love Living Life. I Am Happy. Are YOU Going To Finish STRONG?

If I fail,
I try again,
and again,
and again.

– Nick Vujicic

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8ZuKF3dxCY]I Love Living Life. I Am Happy.

DailyMotivation | January 20, 2009 | 12,409 likes, 117 dislikes

http://LifeWithoutLimbs.org

Nick Vujicic and his attitude serve as a great examples of the celebration of life over limitations.

The human spirit can handle much more than we realize.

“I LOVE LIVING LIFE. I AM HAPPY.”

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Think you’ve got it bad?
Need some encouragement?
Fallen down?
Can’t find the STRENGTH to get back up?

Watch this video. It will help. Then share it with others.

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“If I fail, I try again, and again, and again…”
If YOU fail, are YOU going to try again?

It matters how you’re going to FINISH…
Are you going to finish STRONG?

We are put in situations to build our character… not destroy us.

The tensions in our life are there to strengthen our convictions… not to run over us.

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Nick is thankful for what he HAS.
He’s not bitter for what he does NOT have.

I have never met a bitter person who was thankful.
I have never met a thankful person who was bitter.

In life you have a choice: Bitter or BETTER?

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Related:
Nick Vujicic: Joy No Matter What!

Lying: What's politically acceptable vs. what's Biblically acceptable

“It’s even politically acceptable for anybody in business to lie.
And it’s acceptable.
It’s mind-blowing.”

– Bob Chapman

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from
Dr. Stanley Monteith’s Radio Liberty, 11/8/10, hr. 3

“But for … all liars,
their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur,
which is the second death.”

– Jesus
Revelation 21:8

Related:

AMAZING! Brazen Brzezinski admits outright the U.S. LIES — What we SAY vs what we DO “as a matter of practice”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

A. W. Tozer: The church needs the SPECIALISTS, the TROUBLESHOOTERS whom they've labelled 'extreme'

 

From: Johnthebaptisttv… (Andrew Strom)

A.W TOZER – The “DRASTIC RADICALS” NEEDED

Great industrial concerns have in their employ men who are needed only when there is a breakdown somewhere. When something goes wrong with the machinery, these men spring into action to locate and remove the trouble and get the machinery rolling again.

For these men a smoothly operating system has no interest. They
are specialists concerned with trouble and how to find and correct it.

In the Kingdom of God things are not too different. God has always
had His specialists whose chief concern has been the moral
breakdown, the decline in the spiritual health of the nation or the
Church. Such men were Elijah, Jeremiah, Malachi, and others of
their kind who appeared at critical moments in history to reprove,
rebuke, and exhort in the name of God and righteousness.

A thousand or ten thousand ordinary priests or pastors or teachers
could labor quietly on, almost unnoticed, while the spiritual life
of Israel or the Church was normal. But let the people of God go
astray from the paths of truth, and immediately the specialist
appeared almost out of nowhere. His instinct for trouble brought
him to the help of the Lord and of Israel.

Such a man was likely to be drastic, radical, possibly at times
violent, and the curious crowd that gathered to watch him work
soon branded him as extreme, fanatical, negative. And in a sense
they were right. He was single-minded, severe, fearless, as these
were the qualities the circumstances demanded. He shocked
some, frightened others, and alienated not a few, but he knew
Who had called him and what he was sent to do. His ministry
was geared to the emergency, and that fact marked him out as
different, a man apart.

To such men as this the Church owes a debt too heavy to pay.
The curious thing is She seldom tries to pay him while he lives,
but the next generation builds his sepulcher and writes his
biography, as if instinctively and awkwardly to discharge an
obligation the previous generation to a large extent ignored.

Such a man as this is not an easy companion. The professional
evangelist who leaves the wrought-up meeting as soon as it ends
to hurry over to the most expensive restaurant to feast and crack
jokes with his sponsors will find this man something of an
embarrassment, for he cannot turn off the burden of the Holy Ghost
as one would turn off a faucet. He insists upon being a Christian
all the time, everywhere; and again, that marks him out as different.

Toward him it is impossible to be neutral. His acquaintances are
divided pretty neatly into two classes, those who love him with all
admiration, and those who hate him with perfect hatred!
[‘Christians’ James-3 cursing Christians – ed.]

-SOURCE: “Why Revival Tarries” by Leonard Ravenhill. -One of
the best books you will ever read.

Related:

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTEDNow is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”

Promiscuity & The Death of Love: For a woman, sex is an act of self-sacrifice and surrender. By definition, it requires trust, i.e. love and devotion to one man. When she has casual sex, inevitably she is disappointed and feels used. She starts TO HATE MEN and falls victim to feminism and lesbianism.

From: Henry Makow

Promiscuity & The Death of Love

Why women today are losing the ability to love, and how men must adjust.

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

If a young woman today said she was saving her virginity for her husband, she’d be considered hopelessly old fashioned. She’d be treated with disdain, as polite society treated a whore 100 years ago.

This is a measure of the triumph of Satanism, the “religion” of the modern world, which lurks behind secularism. Not coincidentally, virgins also had to hide their purity in Bolshevik Russia.

The defining characteristic of civilization is the consecration of sex to marriage, or at the very least, love and courtship. Marriage and family are the red blood cells of a healthy society and the basis for procreation.

Satanists understand this very well. That’s why they used “sexual liberation,” to undermine humanity. As Giuseppe Mazzini said, “we corrupt in order to conquer.”

They are like the devil. Corruption is a form of conquest. Enslavement can take the form of addiction, to sex or drugs or alcohol.

Any animal can have anonymous sex. It is human to form a permanent loving bond and raise children properly. This is why Satanists use free love to attack attack marriage.

FREE LOVE IS AN OXYMORON

The more sexual partners a young woman has, the less she is able to love a man. A woman’s love must be exclusive. It must be focused on her husband, the father of her children. She must preserve her soul for him. That’s what her body represents. By becoming a sexual free agent, she loses the ability to love.

For a woman, sex is an act of self-sacrifice and surrender. By definition, it requires trust, i.e. love and devotion to one man. When she has casual sex, inevitably she is disappointed and feels used. She starts to hate men and falls victim to feminism and lesbianism.

When men were required to get married in order to have sex, women were courted and loved. Later, they were honored for their contribution as wife and mother. Far from protecting “women’s rights,” feminism has left them twisting in the wind.

The separation of sex from marriage, i.e. “sexual liberation,” is one of the principle ways satanism has killed love.

Wanton sex has become a substitute for love. Young women now market themselves as sex partners, not wives and mothers. Men are also trained to seek sex.

Entire Article Here

Who will lead the Third Great Awakening? "The only one qualified to preach is the one who wants to run the other way, like Jonah. The man, however, who loves to talk, loves to be public, and enjoys being seen and heard…"

Are his initials R. S.?
From: Charisma

The Power and the Pain of True Prophetic Preaching

J. Lee Grady

No true message from God will flow through a person who is smug and self-confident. If you want to speak for Him, prepare to die!


“We measure the impact of a sermon not by whether hearts were slain by Holy Ghost conviction but by how loud the preacher shouted or how high the people jumped when the preacher told them what they wanted to hear.”

The power of prophetic preaching actually works in the opposite way we assume it should. If we view things carnally, we believe God chooses gifted orators who hone and shape their skills like a doctor who learns surgery or an actor who learns to perform on stage.
But true preaching is not a natural exercise—it is actually one of the most supernatural tasks anyone can ever be called to do. It requires an imperfect human vessel to yield himself (or herself) to speak the very words of God. If we do it in the flesh, the results will be miserable; but if we wholly trust the power of the Spirit, prophetic preaching will unleash God to move however He desires.
If we fail in this process, we are humiliated. Why would anyone want to preach?
No wonder most of the leaders we encounter in the Bible were reluctant to speak. Moses made excuses about stuttering, Gideon tried to disqualify himself and Jeremiah complained to the Lord about the weighty responsibility of carrying a prophetic burden. Jonah bought a one-way ticket to the other side of the Mediterranean Sea so he wouldn’t have to give his unpopular sermon.
And the apostle Paul, who was a silver-tongued Pharisee before he met Christ, was stripped of his worldly eloquence before he preached throughout the Roman Empire. He told the Corinthians: “I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God” (1 Cor. 2:3-5, NASB).
Charismatic revivalist Arthur Katz, who died three years ago, wrote about the power of true preaching in his 1999 book Apostolic Foundations: “The only one qualified to preach … is the one who wants to run the other way, like Jonah. The man, however, who loves to talk, loves to be public, and enjoys being seen and heard, need not think that a word like this will ever be emitted from his mouth. The man who sighs and groans when called upon to speak, who does not want to be there, who feels terribly uncomfortable, who knows that he is not going to be understood, is the man out of whose mouth the word of true preaching is most likely to come.”
That is certainly not the way most of us view pulpit ministry in contemporary America. We celebrate the smooth and the polished. We measure the impact of a sermon not by whether hearts were slain by Holy Ghost conviction but by how loud the preacher shouted or how high the people jumped when the preacher told them what they wanted to hear.
That kind of carnal preaching may win the accolades of men, boost TV ratings and even build megachurches. But the kingdom is not built on smug self-confidence. We need God’s words. The church will live in spiritual famine until broken, reluctant, weak and trembling preachers allow His holy fire to come out of their mouths.
If this is your assignment, die to your fears, doubts and excuses and drink the cup of suffering that accompanies the genuine call of God.

Entire Article Here

Awakening Meetings End at IHOP. Why?

IHOP head, Mike Bickle says this (from: IHOP…):

Our last awakening service this year was on Saturday, October 9. Wes Hall shared at Forerunner Christian Fellowship on Sunday, September 19, on how the Lord spoke to us about this. We encourage you to listen to Wes’s message.

“The awakening leadership received a word from the Lord from several people, leading them to the conclusion that it was time to discontinue the awakening services for a season. At that time, the nightly meetings were full of life and full of people, yet Wes Hall, Allen Hood, and the awakening leadership team responded in obedience to the word from the Lord. It is very unusual for leaders to stop such meetings when they are full and successful by every human standard. The fruit from laboring for eleven months in this time of awakening (November 2009 to October 2010) is very good. We received over 6,000 testimonies of emotional and physical healing from all over the world and we have had the privilege of baptizing over 1,700 people. I am very proud of the excellent leadership of Wes Hall and Allen Hood and their team. The IHOP–KC family is in a much better place because of their labors.”

—Mike Bickle

Here’s my take:
I was totally rooting for IHOP! Their goal was to see the Third Great Awakening happen before their eyes, which is God’s goal.
For about 3 months, I watched many of the 6-hour meetings in their entirety. I was thrilled at Wes Hall’s attitude and teachings. But more and more I became leery about what IHOPU president, Allen Hood was saying.
It’s no surprise to me that the revival started in Wes’ class. Wes just shone. He seems to be as pure as snow. It’s also no surprise that Wes became noticeably touched by God over and over and over, while Allen seemed to be hardly affected.
“God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” This is a principle that I’ve seen demonstrated in many of the revival meetings I’ve been in.
I have found that most church leaders aren’t fully right with God and people, so it’s usually the norm that they don’t get touched. You can watch them. Hundreds will be  greatly touched by God, as did Wes, but with the leaders who aren’t holy, little happens, or they put on an act.
Wes stated a number of times that who gets touched doesn’t really mean anything, but from what I’ve seen, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble” is a key factor, if not the key factor.
It is my opinion that God wants to move among every human being in fullness, but we have to be right with Him and each other, otherwise bad things would happen when God reveals Himself in a greater fullness. So God can’t fully come until our hearts are pure. Mike Bickle knows this:

Mike Bickle: Making a Purity Covenant so the HOLY Spirit can come and we won’t get zapped … to bless His heart — that we may be ONE!

In Acts, Ananias and Sapphira died because they publicly lied in God’s presence. The believers in these meetings were greatly respected, but “none of the rest dared to join them.”
After Ananias and Sapphira died, Luke writes in Acts 5:

11 Great fear came on the whole assembly, and on all who heard these things.

12 By the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. They were all with one accord in Solomon’s porch. 13 None of the rest dared to join them, however the people honored them. 14 More believers were added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women.

Why didn’t the rest dare to join them? Because they weren’t right enough with God and people, just like most ‘Christians’ today. They weren’t walking in “perfect love” so their “perfect love casted out all fear (James)” to be able to rest in confidence in the manifest presence of the HOLY Spirit.
Most ‘Christians’ today (including leadership) are either putting on that they’re holy or they don’t even claim to be. After all, the currently popular teaching is that they’re saved no matter what — if they’ve been truly been born again — which is the very doctrine that are keeping ‘churches’ from being holy enough for God to fully come.
To me, it is crystal clear that the main thing that kept the IHOP awakening meetings in the stuck mode is Allen Hood’s salvation doctrine (see related articles, below) which Mike Bickle must have approved. Mike even said in his statement “I am very proud of … Allen Hood;” even though, Allen gave attendees a license to willfully sin. I wrote these. It’s so clear:

False, revival killing, salvation doctrine at IHOP continues from IHOPU president, Allen Hood at the Awakening meetings 🙁

FALSE DOCTRINE: Why won’t Christian leaders even mention Hebrews 10:26? An IHOP example — so close and yet so far away — from full REVIVAL 🙁

They kept asking, even telling God to come, but the Holy Spirit couldn’t come in His fullness as He has done in so many previous revivals, including Acts 5 — which is just what is supposed to be normal Christianity. God wants to live among us in a very real way.
There was Allen Hood’s false salvation teaching, but there was also key exhortation that was curiously absent. I kept waiting and waiting and waiting…. The main theme of the Asbury revival (that they must have known about, having studied revival history) was totally missing: the importance of getting right with each other: Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’” Not once, did I hear one of the leaders say we need to get right with each other. Not once!!! As if Asbury never happened.
IHOP also ignored the church history that God emphasized to Shelley Hundley in a dream. He showed her specifically how Jonathan Edwards was a key example for them. But Jonathan Edwards’ Sinners in the Hand of an Angry God was the opposite of what Allen Hood kept repeating over and over: God loves us no matter what we do — the prevalent teaching in churchianity today — but the truth is still what the Bible clearly teaches: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

There was a key reason that God emphasized Jonathan Edwards, who taught the fear of the Lord, front and center, while Allen taught against the idea that the fear of the Lord applies to ‘Christians’ — except as to what we’ll have to go through on earth. See this.
IHOP was trying to bring in the revival without the Biblical requirement for holiness taught for us to just be real Christians. Only the pure in heart will see God. At Asbury, the Christians publicly confessed their sins. They did James 4, while the IHOP awakening meetings were largely just partysville. From God’s Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4:

God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

7 Be subject therefore to God. But resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament, mourn, and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy [partysville joy, not fruit-of-the-Holy-Spirit joy] to gloom.

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you.

There was mixture at IHOP. Holiness was an option, not a necessity for those who are God’s children, so many opted out; though, they wanted the blessing of being in God’s fullness while still being too fully in the world — not having even been told to get right with their neighbors so God could come.
Jesus greatly desires us to be ONE. He longs for us to be ONE. Only then will the world know, He said in John 17. Now, the world smells a rat. There is so much unrepentant sin in the ‘church.” God can’t come until we’re ONE. So let’s become ONE! And this will happen when holiness is no longer an option, which is what the Bible really teaches.
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” ‘Church’ leaders claim to be wise, but they’re fools when they teach that none of the warning scriptures apply to us; though, they were clearly written to new covenant believers.
This is the great deception. This is what is destroying America and keeping real Christianity, the Third Great Awakening from happening in our midst.
I wonder how many thousands of times I heard those at IHOP actually tell God to come. What gall, I’ve often thought — us telling God what to do when He can’t come in His manifest presence or many would flat out die. How dare we, when He is the Potter and we are the clay.
I think it’s mainly a matter of one church somewhere getting their doctrines right and living accordingly. That will start the Third Great Awakening.
The positive message here is that when we get our doctrines right — especially regarding who goes to heaven — and when we live within what the Bible really says, we will have revival. It will be automatic follow.
The unwavering principle is “Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.” It’s not complicated. The Third Great Awakening didn’t happen at IHOP because those who are truly Christ’s wasn’t even taught. “Those who are Christ’s have crucified their flesh” (Paul in Galatians 5). The opposite was actually taught. “People were pacified.”
“God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” Who are the humble? Those who obey. Who are those who obey? Those who actually really do love the Lord, our God with all of their heart, soul, mind and strength, and who really do love their neighbors as themselves.
That means we have to do Asbury. We have to get right with everybody we’ve hurt. We need to humble ourselves before God and each other. I believe the community that will do this will bring in the Third Great Awakening.
Many good things happened at IHOP. I don’t want to minimize the good. I gave much applause in this blog. I think Wes Hall, especially did a lot of good. I really like Wes!  I think Wes and some of the others even plowed  ground that will make it easier for the Third Great Awakening to happen. But Allen’s reverse-Bible salvation killed it. False salvation doctrine poured water on the whole move.
And then “we bless You, Lord” songs turned more into “bless us, Lord” songs. That was another factor. How much of the worship was really worship — especially in Spirit and in truth? Straight-to-God “We worship You” songs were hardly ever sung. “Worship” was more man centered than “You are awesome!” People’s hearts weren’t right. I saw certain worship leaders start to sing real worship songs, but it’s like the crowd wasn’t ready. They poured poured water on the coals, and rarely did the worship leaders have the courage to fully try again.
Only new wineskins can hold the New Wine, God Himself. It’s really simple. We can’t expect God to move among us differently than He did in previous revivals where the people really repented.

God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

7 Be subject therefore to God. But resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you.

Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

9 Lament, mourn, and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to gloom.

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you.

We shouldn’t be telling God what to do. We need to do what is right and then He will come. This is guaranteed when we really do humble ourselves to His standard.
Then He will come. We’ll see great miracles! The joy of the Lord will be our strength!
We can have a permanent Asbury where there will be no doubt that God is among us. But first, we need to get our salvation doctrine right.
Or America has to totally fall and we lose everything. Maybe that would also bring about real repentance. But why are we going to wait until then?
We can have revival now. It’s just a matter of us doing what we already know to do — what the Holy Spirit has been convicting us of.
False teachers should step down. Those who teach the truth will bring in this next move.
Luther didn’t get it, yet most pastors basically teach what Luther taught. Some follow John Calvin, but he didn’t get it either. And certainly the Catholic Church didn’t get it. So let’s get it!
We need to believe what Jesus, Paul, James, John, and what the writer to the Hebrews taught.
Then we’ll see heart-soaring, pure revival come!
Related:
My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified
False, revival killing, salvation doctrine at IHOP continues from IHOPU president, Allen Hood at the Awakening meetings 🙁
FALSE DOCTRINE: Why won’t Christian leaders even mention Hebrews 10:26? An IHOP example — so close and yet so far away — from full REVIVAL 🙁
Here is an example (if you listen to the audio) of how close (and yet so far away) Mike Bickle (head of IHOP) is to the truth about who goes to heaven
Mike Bickle, Head of IHOP: From Porn to Worship “Within the Minute?” Yikes, Mike!
(video) The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next, even greater revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
Tommy Welchel on William Seymour and Charles Parham’s 100-Year Prophecy: On the same day in 1909, hundreds of miles apart, they both prophesied God’s visible shekina glory would return to earth after 100 years, but this time everywhere!
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s *1909 prophecy* of the SHEKINAH GLORY RETURNING to the church *in 100 years*: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. ..the fear of God was on the community, and…they were highly esteemed” | My theory …

Smith Wigglesworth: “THE LAST DAY REVIVAL WILL BE THE GREATEST revival this world has ever seen!”

(audio) Sid Roth on ‘Coast to Coast AM’ 9/1/13: Miracles & Healing — Why did the Azusa St. revival stop (1906-1909)? William Seymour “became too sophisticated for the box” — to hear and obey — but prophesied an even greater revival would happen in 100 years!
Sid Roth: The missing ingredient, speaking in tongues — “I believe that God wants to restore this gift for the last great push of God’s spirit”
Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”
Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved
The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy
All of my Lust Freedom! posts (in reverse-chronological order)

All of my Who Goes to Heaven posts (in reverse-chronological order)
All of my IHOP posts (in reverse-chronological order)

‘CARNAL’ CHRISTIANS – Saved or Not? — The following quote from Leonard Ravenhill caused the biggest reaction yet on our Facebook page…

From: johnthebaptisttv.com (Andrew Strom)

‘CARNAL’ CHRISTIANS – Saved or Not?

The following quote from Leonard Ravenhill caused the biggest
reaction yet on our Facebook page. We are now discussing it on
our new website – where ANYONE can now comment (not just
members). Here is the quote and a few replies to kick things off!-

The QUOTE:

“Get rid of this bunkum about the ‘carnal Christian’. Forget it! If
you’re carnal, you’re not saved.” – Leonard Ravenhill.

Some REPLIES:

A.M – “Well the Bible is white and black, there is no gray, either
you’re with Christ or you are against Him.
“He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather
with me, scatters.””

R.B – “I have enjoyed reading through all the comments regarding
this qoute. In my opinion, and correct me if am wrong Andrew, but
I feel that the meaning of this qoute is refing to those who habitually
live in carnality. I think that every Christian falls into carnallity from
time to time, does that make them “unsaved”? I don’t think so.”

L.C – “Well I don’t agree on this one! The Bible speaks of carnal
“Christians”! In 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 Paul is speaking to the
Corinthian BELIEVERS when he tells them he couldn’t speak to
them as spiritual (one governed by the Spirit) but as carnal, mere
infants in Christ.”

A.M – “If you read 1 corinthians Paul is rebuking them for
being carnal, not condoning it.”

Olive Branch – “Without the phrase (‘Carnal Christian’) many so
called Christians have no way of justifying their sin.”

– Have something important to say on this?
Please add your comment below-

Posted in Uncategorized by Andrew on May 5th, 2010 at 1:26 am.
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Related:
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way  | Who are the Children of God?

Teaching tithing keeps the little (and the big) children from coming to Jesus where they can have life!

See at my personal blog:

One of my pastor friends died on Saturday —
and I’m not sure where he now is

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Related:
The Day that Tithing Ended — To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit
Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine
Many Pastors Still Teach Old Covenant, Pre-Pentecost Tithing—Not Spirit-Led Giving
Tithing or the Carriage Driver?
David Bercot CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About Tithing and Fasting? “You might be surprised to know…”
All of my Tithing or Spirit-led posts

I re-wrote the Romans 8 portion of "Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way" — What Romans 8 really says…

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This is what Paul really says.

Rom. 8:1 There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace….

12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God. 15 For you didn’t receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abbaa! Father!”

16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God; 17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him. 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which will be revealed toward us. 19 For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

Excerpt from Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Romans 8:1 is one of the most commonly mistaught scriptures, largely because of certain faulty modern Bible translations like Rupert Murdoch’s NIV:

“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.” The NIV stops there, but the KJV, NKJV and others keep Paul’s complete thought: who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.” (WEB)

And we know this is the correct interpretation to what Paul means to be in Christ Jesus because of what Paul also says in verse four: “that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

Most pastors are teaching that the “no condemnation” from being “in Christ Jesus,” is automatic because Christ died for us and we accepted his free gift. But that’s not what Paul taught at all. It is so clear.

Those “who are in Christ Jesus” have “no condemnation” because they “don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit”—by God’s grace, of course.

Most ‘Christians,’ today, rightfully feel condemnation because they are in one or more areas walking after the flesh and not putting to death the misdeads of the body by the Holy Spirit. Compare what Paul says in Galatians 5:

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. 25 If we live by the Spirit, let’s also walk by the Spirit.

Most pastors are confidence men (con-men) who go to great lengths to convince the people that the condemnation they feel is really from the Devil, because born-again Christians can’t be under condemnation because of what Paul says in Romans 8:1a. They’re totally deceiving the public.

Most ‘Christians’ and pastors constantly live in condemnation. And instead of living totally clean and getting right with those they’ve hurt so they can be free from condemnation, they actually seek comfort from the positive-encouragement K-LOVE propaganda that tells listeners that we’re okay with God no matter what. The “never let go” songs are so popular, while we should really be listening to our-heart-to-God’s real worship music, which hardly gets played at all. Most ‘Christians’ can’t worship in Spirit and in truth because their hearts aren’t right.

“If therefore you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has anything against you,leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. (Mt. 5:23, 24)

In ‘church,’ today, it’s all about “I’m okay, you’re okay,” and this simply is not true. “God’s people” aren’t even repenting from supporting the United States’ immoral, reverse-Christian wars. Abortion is deemed so bad while it’s okay to kill hundreds of thousands of full grown humans who never did anything to us, and who are mostly now in Hell (abortion is despicable, but at least the babies go to heaven). We slaughtered them in the name of God and country. America gets what it deserves. We are now becoming a police state, and the end of America may soon be at hand, all because the ‘Christians’ are no longer salt and light. See: The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit?

The fear of God has been removed from pastors’ vocabularies and from the songs that are played. The Bible has been gutted. Satan knew he couldn’t get away with adding words to the Bible, so instead, he took them out, largely through his servants, Wescott and Hort.

Paul continues to explain who goes to heaven in the middle of Romans 8, as well as in Romans 11, but pastors are leading the church astray by focusing instead on Romans 8:1a and the last part of the chapter which says nothing can separate us from the love of Christ; though, Paul was referring to those who are truly in Christ Jesus according to what he had previously said in chapter 8.

Americans are getting brainwashed/ mind-controlled. That is what is happening in most churches and on most ‘Christian’ radio and TV today. The deception in the last days is indeed great and almost universal! “Come out from them and be separate” is the remedy.

This is what Paul really says.

Romans 8:1-19

Rom. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace….

12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God. 15 For you didn’t receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abbaa! Father!”

16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God; 17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him. 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which will be revealed toward us. 19 For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

Rom. 11:1; 20-23

1 I ask then, Did God reject his people? May it never be! For I also am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. …
20 True; by their unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by your faith. Don’t be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God didn’t spare the natural branches [the Jews], neither will he spare you. 22 See then the goodness and severity of God. Toward those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 They also, if they don’t continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

The New Testament teaches that Jesus was an example on earth that we should follow in his steps. And having read the warning scriptures that describe what will happen to us if we fall away, “working out our salvation with fear and trembling” as the Holy Spirit enables us to makes total sense.

Related:
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way  | Who are the Children of God?

Former porn star Shelley Lubben blesses Howard Stern for helping her spread her lust-freedom message!

From: twitter.com/slubben

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Former Porn Actress Shelley Lubben: Porn is Not Glamorous and Destroys Lives — “I used to brag endlessly to fans and pornographers about how I loved making porn movies. I lied 100% of the time to 100% of the people”
(video) Ex Porn Star’s Amazing Story: “For eight years, I battled the Devil for my life with the Word. I’d fall … I fell a little bit less … and I started WALKING TALL, like a CHAMPION!!!”
(video)Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben’s FREEDOM Testimony: The Champion in You!!!
(video) Shelley Lubben Former Porn Actress Finds Freedom in Christ — “I had to forgive everybody”
Twelve Steps of Sex Addicts Anonymous involves getting right with those who’ve been hurt — so we can BE FREE! | I’m ADDING MORE STEPS.
All of my Lust Freedom! posts. We can be free!!!
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way We must be free!!!