Month: January 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Getting Right with Each Other, Revival, The Third Great Awakening, Who Goes to Heaven

Some ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt. They think they can press on without getting right….
I know a church leader who did this very thing publicly before the entire congregation, and twenty-some years later he still hasn’t gotten right with many people he hurt. What is he thinking? He certainly misread Paul.
Paul didn’t say he was forgetting to get right with those he hurt in the past, what Jesus said we are supposed to quickly do in Matthew 5. Much of Paul’s “pressing on” was to make sure that he did everything necessary to make sure that he would “be found in Him,” “becoming conformed to His death” that “I may attain….”
Paul was so careful to make sure he was solidly in Christ that he could without hesitation say: “be imitators together of me.” I am “an example” of how to do it. Paul actually fought and won in his struggle with demons (I’ll explain this below).
Philippians 3:

2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision. 3 For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh; 4 though I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If any other man thinks that he has confidence in the flesh, I yet more: 5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; 6 concerning zeal, persecuting the assembly; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, found blameless.

7 However, what things were gain to me, these have I counted loss for Christ. 8 Yes most certainly, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus, my Lord, for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and count them nothing but refuse, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death; 11 if by any means I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.

12 Not that I have already obtained, or am already made perfect; but I press on, if it is so that I may take hold of that for which also I was taken hold of by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers, I don’t regard myself as yet having taken hold, but one thing I do. Forgetting the things which are behind, and stretching forward to the things which are before, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, think this way. If in anything you think otherwise, God will also reveal that to you. 16 Nevertheless, to the extent that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule. Let us be of the same mind.

17 Brothers, be imitators together of me, and note those who walk this way, even as you have us for an example.

How do we know for sure that Paul got right with everyone he was supposed to, so he had a totally clear conscience? In Acts 23 and 24, Paul tells us specifically: “I also practice always having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”
Part of Paul’s “pressing on” was to make sure he was right with everyone, “having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”
Acts 23:1

Paul, looking steadfastly at the council, said, “Brothers, I have lived before God in all good conscience until this day.”

Acts 24:

1 After five days, the high priest, Ananias, came down with certain elders and an orator….

10 When the governor had beckoned to him to speak, Paul answered, “Because I know that you have been a judge of this nation for many years, I cheerfully make my defense, 11 seeing that you can recognize that it is not more than twelve days since I went up to worship at Jerusalem. 12 In the temple they didn’t find me disputing with anyone or stirring up a crowd, either in the synagogues, or in the city. 13 Nor can they prove to you the things of which they now accuse me. 14 But this I confess to you, that after the Way, which they call a sect, so I serve the God of our fathers, believing all things which are according to the law, and which are written in the prophets; 15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. 16 Herein I also practice always having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”

Paul’s battle with demons is explained in my Let Us Be ONE prophecy. “He fought and won — not at first.” “They made him obey”:

Give Up the Ghost of Pride and Settle for Nothing Other Than Love

… Do not let it get in, your pride. Don’t take it. Don’t accept it as your own. It is not from above, but from the father of lies. He remains inside of most who disobey. The demons are thick as muck, all over, festering. There is much confusion, and it is not right. They can get in. Many don’t believe they are filled. It is them, part of their personality. Yes it is, but it is not Me. You are full of them, those yukky things that wreak inside My body, making it unclean. Paul did not have these. He walked tall. They made him obey, for he learned how to live above the fray. He hated disobedience and shunned sin. He still had a spirit of pride that held him back, but it was not from Me, and you know it.

You know you are like him in many ways, hurting, because you haven’t given your all. He overcame. Sin had taken him for a ride. He had hurt many, taking them into prison, putting them in chains—people like you who proclaim the Gospel. He took time to pray and overcame His grief. He was amazing, and is with Me, happy, because he fought and won—not at first. It took time. He needed to be holy. Righteousness came, and he grew until he became great in My thinking, full of Me, pride no longer. He humbled himself, and slowly became obedient until the point of death. He hurt.

Many are in dismay. They think he is great, that no one can be like him, but you will do better. He faltered. You, as a body can do much better. You can be one, you in Me, all under authority, all led by Me, all together, all one, hand in hand, much better than it was. Can you believe it? …

So what are we waiting for. [WordPOWER!] Jesus on reconciliation in Matthew 5: If you remember that your brother has anything against you, reconcile quickly or . . .
Paul can no longer be used as an excuse: “I also practice always having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” / “Brothers, I have lived before God in all good conscience until this day.”
I’m currently ending my Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way article with this:

That we may have boldness on the day of judgment.

1 John:

2:28 Now, little children, remain in him, that when he appears, we may have boldness, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

4:16 We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him. 17 In this[,] love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.

Those who won’t get right with those they know they should will not only be in big trouble on Judgment Day, but they can also be standing in the way of the Third Great Awakening from happening. If God came now in His glory how many would get zapped: Mike Bickle: Making a Purity Covenant so the HOLY Spirit can come and we won’t get zapped … to bless His heart — that we may be ONE!
Reconciliation prepares the way so we can have full revival, which is actually just real Christianity: Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Enabling abusive people helps them prolong their agony. Imagine the joy they could have when they’re free, like this woman at Asbury!
On the other hand, helping abusers reconcile is preparing the way for the Kingdom — so fruit remains and we’re all happy — when God is again clearly in our midst!
If we build it He will come!
He’s just waiting in the meantime.
ONE will happen when we reconcile — become right with each other.
And the more God shows up the easier it will be to see our sin, and the less we’ll be concerned about what man thinks when we admit what we’ve done. The fear of God will supersede the fear of man.
The people who hurt people don’t want to lose face, but usually the people see the sin anyway. They’re not really getting away with anything. They might be able to fool some people, but many know — especially the prophetic — and that’s why they don’t like and even James-3 curse those who are gifted by God to know — and love-inspired by God to not give up either.
In Bible school, Frank used to say “You can either fall on the Rock or the Rock will fall on you.” Which do you prefer? Get right with God voluntarily and experience the joy of the Lord and the good fruit that will follow, or stay feeling guilty (condemnation actually – Romans 8:1, including 8:1b) until the tragic consequences finally occur. “It’s a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.” Which is what Hebrews 10 says happens to willful sinners.
So why not get right now? The woman at Asbury said it would kill her if she admitted to people that she had lied to them. But then when she did, God filled her with so much joy!!!
And right now, we’re looking at the collapse of America. Do you want to be the one who kept the revival from happening, so God couldn’t show up and help us through the difficult times ahead?
Right now, the church is basically powerless. A main reason is The Achan Factor: The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience, the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan Factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!
I’m not sure how to end this.
If you’ve hurt people that you know you are supposed to apologize to, please just do the right thing no matter how hard it may seem. Fear God, not man and “go forth and multiply.” Perhaps God is saying that when one starts and experiences the joy and freedom, then many others will also get right with those they’ve hurt.
You can be the catalyst that started the whole thing!!!
Focus on the fruit that will come, and just do it. Many of us have known all along anyway. From many of us you’ll get big smiles, not put downs. We’re in this together. The fear of man is overrated (demon empowered) and the fear of God is tremendously underrated when we’re not close to Him.
We can start the Third Great Awakening! God can and will show up when the Achans, Ananiases and Sapphiras come clean.
The Third Great Awakening just has to start at just one church, and then it will spread like wildfire — people coming from everywhere wondering how we did it!
Jeff Fenske : )
Related:
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “Let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned.”
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”
Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent
[WordPower!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Paul aimed to always please the Lord, knowing that all we do will be “revealed before the judgment seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”
The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?
My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!
[3-minute video] The Hermeneutics of Language: Few still say “You’re welcome.” | The Benchmark of the Psychopathy: The almost organic inability to look back, to recognize error, hurt, disappointment and pain — an inability to appreciate consequence and to take responsibility for actions of one’s past
Clive Boddy: Corporate Psychopaths Rule Over Us — The key thing about psychopaths is they’ve got no conscience. If you caught them lying, they wouldn’t be flustered. They come across as almost better than everybody else, and they can make you feel as if you’ve just met your next best friend. By the time that you realize who they really are…
Are Today’s Pastors Part Sociopath? — “Sociopaths never accept the slightest responsibility for anything that goes wrong, even though they’re responsible for almost everything that goes wrong. You’ll never hear a sincere apology from them.”
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the "Achan factor" among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Getting Right with Each Other, Reverse-Christianity Responsible, Revival

Rick taught this at Abbott Loop in Anchorage, many years ago.
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From: SermonCentral.com

The Achan Factor!
by George Dillahunty
Joshua 7:1-7:1

While no one was looking, Achan wrapped his discovery in a Babylonian garment, put it on like a backpack and took it to his tent! That evening, Achan dug a hole in the floor and buried his “looted” treasure there! Achan knew he had sinned – how do we know? Because he hid what he had taken! If he was unaware of his disobedience, he would have taken his “war booty” and flaunted it before his friends, bragging about how good he had done in the campaign and what he would be taking home to his family because of his combat prowess! You see, church, it was the custom of ancient warfare that the spoils of battle were given to the soldiers – this being, on occasion, their only source of payment for their services – not this time, however, for Jericho was the “devoted thing”!

The next city to be taken under Almighty God’s “Battle Plan” was a little place called Ai – compared to the city of Jericho, Ai was a small country town with no standing Army of its own! Ai was basically nothing more than a wide spot on a camel trail! Joshua, the Commanding Officer of the Israelite Army, thinking that this would be an easy victory and not worthy of his personal attendance, sent the Army out to war without him! However, Almighty God was about to teach the children of Israel a valuable lesson!

As the Israelite Army approached the town of Ai, their faith quickly evaporated! The men of Ai threw open the town gates and charged at the Israelites wielding farm implements and sticks! Soon, the Israelites realized that something was wrong – why? Because they were losing men – people were dying – they were losing the battle – and none of that was a part of God’s Battle Plan! After fleeing for their lives and returning to Joshua, they told him that “something was wrong!!”

They had lost thirty-six (36) men trying to take the little town of Ai; but, had lost no one when they took the city of Jericho! So, what was wrong with that picture? Joshua fell on his face before Almighty God and asked Him what was wrong? Almighty God revealed the fact that there was a thief among them and when Joshua dealt with the thief, Almighty God said that His blessing would return! Perhaps that seems harsh to you; however, Almighty God could not tolerate a violation of His law!

Joshua lined up all twelve tribes of Israel and began an inquiry into the matter! The population totals were enormous, coming to a figure approaching three million people, so the interview process lasted a day and part of another day! All of this time, Almighty God was allowing Achan to confess – but, Achan remained mute!

Eventually, Almighty God showed Joshua, through a word of knowledge, who it was! Achan must have been sweating profusely….

Almighty God gave Achan plenty of time to confess and he still had not done it! Because of one man’s disobedience, the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan Factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

Entire Article Here
Related:
My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?
My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!
If we build it He will come: “Let Us Be ONE” (A Prophecy)
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!

[WordPOWER!] Jesus on reconciliation in Matthew 5: If you remember that your brother has anything against you, reconcile quickly or . . .

In Freedom

Matthew 5:

20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

21 “You have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, ‘You shall not murder;’ and ‘Whoever shall murder shall be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whoever shall say to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council; and whoever shall say, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of the fire of Gehenna. 23 “If therefore you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has anything against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly [Don’t put it off – editor], while you are with him in the way; lest perhaps the prosecutor deliver you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be cast into prison. 26 Most certainly I tell you, you shall by no means get out of there, until you have paid the last penny.

This prison terminology is similar to what Jesus speaks of in Matthew 18: [WordPower!] Jesus on forgiving to be free from demons in Matthew 18: “So my heavenly Father will also do to you, if you don’t each forgive your brother from your HEARTS for his misdeeds.”
I suspect that reconciliation is usually a salvation issue, and it’s absolutely much of what real revivals are made of:
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

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[WordPower!] Jesus on forgiving to be free from demons in Matthew 18: "So my heavenly Father will also do to you, if you don't each forgive your brother from your HEARTS for his misdeeds."

In Demons in Christians?, Forgive & Be FREE, Getting Right with Each Other, God's Love Revealed, No Enemy, WordPOWER

Matthew 18:

21 Then Peter came and said to him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Until seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I don’t tell you until seven times, but, until seventy times seven [The NIV makes it easier, lowering 490 times to “seventy seven times” – editor].

23 Therefore the Kingdom of Heaven is like a certain king, who wanted to reconcile accounts with his servants. 24 When he had begun to reconcile, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But because he couldn’t pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, with his wife, his children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down and kneeled before him, saying, ‘Lord, have patience with me, and I will repay you all!’ 27 The lord of that servant, being moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.

28 “But that servant went out, and found one of his fellow servants, who owed him one hundred denarii, and he grabbed him, and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ 29 “So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will repay you!’ 30 He would not, but went and cast him into prison, until he should pay back that which was due. 31 So when his fellow servants saw what was done, they were exceedingly sorry, and came and told to their lord all that was done. 32 Then his lord called him in, and said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt, because you begged me. 33 Shouldn’t you also have had mercy on your fellow servant, even as I had mercy on you?’ 34 His lord was angry, and delivered him to the tormentors [demons (Eph. 4:26-27) — NIV just says jailers – editor] until he should pay all that was due to him.

35 So my heavenly Father will also do to you, if you don’t each forgive your brother from your hearts for his misdeeds.”

When we won’t from our hearts fully forgive:
In a sense, we actually from our hearts cast our ‘enemies’ into a prison (verse 30). In our way of thinking (or feeling) we’re taking justice into our own hands. We won’t let them be free until they get fully right with us for whatever misdeeds they committed.
This literally makes God “angry” (verse 34), when we won’t love everyone no matter what. Unforgiveness grieves the Holy Spirit, because He loves these people that we won’t. And we’re the Bible they read. We represent Him.
Demons are Discipline:
It is then God’s will to allow the demons to torment us so we greatly dislike how it feels, enough so we repent to then fully walk in love. Then perfect love casts out all fear (1 John 4) = FREEeeeeeeee———–DOM!!!!!!
What is ironic is that those who mistreat us are themselves tormented by evil spirits. It’s the evil spirits that drive them to hurt us — and it’s the demons in us that drive us to withhold forgiveness.
“Our warfare [really] is not against flesh and blood….” It’s demons in them verses demons in us.
We can break the cycle. “Those who are led by the Spirit are the children of God.” Not those who are demon-led to not forgive. We need to seek out and eagerly submit to and follow the still, small voice of the Prince of Peace inside of us — not heeding at all, and even excising the voices that cause strife.
Our hearts should be so soft.
When they hurt us, no problem — “Father, forgive them; they know not what they do.” “Bless them that curse you.” And Romans 12:

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless, and don’t curse.

15 Rejoice with those who rejoice. Weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Don’t set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Don’t be wise in your own conceits.

17 Repay no one evil for evil. Respect what is honorable in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as it is up to you, be at peace with all men.

19 Don’t seek revenge yourselves, beloved, but give place to God’s wrath. For it is written, “Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord.”

20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in doing so, you will heap coals of fire on his head.”

21 Don’t be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

This is so cool! And is so the opposite of how most US ‘Christians’ reacted to 9/11. And look at the police state being set up against us as a result. But we can still be free inside, where it counts most.
Forgiveness really isn’t an option. That should be our [I absolutely include myself] mindset. Forgiving should be our way of LIFE! It’s a major part of doing the Second Greatest Commandment: loving our neighbor as ourselves.
Let’s love one another. People are so special — every single one — no matter how demonized. “Father, forgive them; they know not what they do.” Let’s give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It’s not our job to judge them, to determine to withhold love from.
Let’s show the world that we care.
And this will help us be ONE. Then the world will know (John 17).
Bless you!
Jeff : )

[WordPOWER!] Acts 5: Great FEAR came on the whole assembly, many signs and wonders were done. They were all with 'ONE' accord. None of the rest (the unrepentant) DARED to join them, however the people honored them. More believers were added.

In Healing, Lying, WordPOWER

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Acts 5

1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira, his wife, sold a possession, 2 and kept back part of the price, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 While you kept it, didn’t it remain your own? After it was sold, wasn’t it in your power? How is it that you have conceived this thing in your heart? You haven’t lied to men, but to God.” 5 Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and died. Great fear came on all who heard these things. 6 The young men arose and wrapped him up, and they carried him out and buried him.

7 About three hours later, his wife, not knowing what had happened, came in. 8 Peter answered her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for so much.” She said, “Yes, for so much.” 9 But Peter asked her, “How is it that you have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? Behold, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” 10 She fell down immediately at his feet, and died. The young men came in and found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her by her husband. 11 Great fear came on the whole assembly, and on all who heard these things.

12 By the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. They were all with one accord in Solomon’s porch. 13 None of the rest dared to join them, however the people honored them. 14 More believers were added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women. 15 They even carried out the sick into the streets, and laid them on cots and mattresses, so that as Peter came by, at the least his shadow might overshadow some of them. 16 Multitudes also came together from the cities around Jerusalem, bringing sick people, and those who were tormented by unclean spirits: and they were all healed.

Rhydian Roberts: O Holy Night

In Music Videos

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HEGOmx4Krg]X Factor 4, The Final, Rhydian (itv.com/xfactor)

TheXFactorUK | December 15, 2007 | 1,328 likes, 142 dislikes

More at http://www.xfactor.tv – Rhydian’s first celebrates Christmas with O Holy Night

Rhydian Roberts: You Raise Me Up – To More Than I Can Be!

In Music Videos

When I am down and oh my soul so weary;
When troubles come and my heart burdened be;
Then I am still and wait here in the silence,
Until you come and sit awhile with me.

You raise me up so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up to more than I can be.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlhbV1ssEDY]X Factor 4, ep 14, Rhydian (itv.com/xfactor)

TheXFactorUK | November 12, 2007 | 1,944 likes, 85 dislikes

More at http://www.xfactor.tv – Rhydian wows the audience and even the judges with his rendition of ‘You Raise Me Up’

How does 2 Thess. 2:10,11 work? Does God actively deceive people who willfully reject truth?

Theme for the Third Great Awakening: Somewhere —
“We’ll find a new way of living.
We’ll find a way of forgiving –
Somehow – Someday – Somewhere!”

In Demons in Christians?, Doctrines Demystified

Recently, I posted:
Pastor Chuck Baldwin: A Nation of Truth Rejectors — “Churches are filled with bitterness, carnality, envy, deceit, duplicity, false accusation, greed, and cowardice due to a lack of truth. … Many of those today that are resisting and disabling truth call themselves Christians. … In reality, people who reject truth lose a whole lot more than whatever they had hoped to gain. Eventually, they lose, not only their own lives, but also the life of their country.”
In his article, Chuck stated and somewhat interpreted this 2 Thess. text:

There is a passage of Scripture that I simply must interject here: “Because they received not the love of the truth . . . God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” (II Thess. 2:10,11 KJV)

This is one of God’s universal principles: when people deliberately reject truth, God will allow them to believe lies, which always leads to ultimate destruction. I submit that is exactly where America is today. As a nation, we have rejected truth, and God is giving us over to deceit and falsehood. And what is interesting to me is the way in which many unbelievers seem to have a thirst for truth that far surpasses that of many professing Christians.

The uninterupted text states this [as a Baptist, I think Chuck Baldwin is once-saved-always-saved, which is perhaps why he ellipsed certain words that mentioned salvation]:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle. 16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 17 comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work. (NKJV)

Note that most ‘Christians,’ right now are having pleasure in unrighteousness. So this is referring to most ‘Christians.’
I do believe that God can actively harden someones heart that is already hard, which seems to be what happened with Pharoah, when he was trying to decide if he would let the people go.
I think what is mostly going on is that God restrains the evil spirits as to how much they are allowed to affect people directly. Earlier in this same chapter, Paul wrote

3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God. 5 Don’t you remember that, when I was still with you, I told you these things? 6 Now you know what is restraining him, to the end that he may be revealed in his own season. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness already works. Only there is one who restrains now, until he is taken out of the way. 8 Then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will kill with the breath of his mouth, and destroy by the manifestation of his coming; (WEB)

When we let the sun go down while still angry we give the Devil a place (Eph. 4), a right to reinforce this anger, probably often so it festers as hate. And only when we repent fully of this sin, like forgiving from our hearts, can we get free.
Or if we willfully lust, we open the door so lust demons can then drive the lust so this sin is much harder to break if. The demons help lust become an addiction.
So if we are completely lust free, then lust demons have no right to enter. God allows them to enter; otherwise, He restrains them to not be able to enter at all.
But as soon as we willfully lust, consciously decide “I’m going to look,” or whatever, then the demons have a right to enter and drive the lust so it’s hard not to lust. Whereas before it was much easier to not lust, to be free. I describe this process here: [Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: Homosexuality, heterosexuality & demonic oppression in Christians — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because…
For some reason, God decided to let the tormentors torture us in various ways when we willfully sin (including not fully forgiving, ie: Mt. 18). This can include making willful sins harder to stop.
But remember, He is waiting at the other side with arms wide open ready to empower us to overcome, when we make the cold-turkey-to-sin decision, to be free!
The Great News
What we can say for sure is that God totally restrains all demons from affecting us directly when we are living with no willful sin — including forgiving everyone from the heart. Unfortunately, almost no one is totally free from demons. But when ONE happens it will probably be fairly easy.
The “what should send us scurrying into holiness” news is that we need to realize that we are in a battle with wicked spirits who are at the ready to infest and drive our sins once we choose to commit them.
So we need to be extremely vigilant to submit to God and resist the Devil. Draw near to God and He will draw near to us (James 4). And then we can be free.
This is life or death. We are in a battle for our souls, and most are currently losing, giving demons a place, a right to control, and drive sins.
Our Great Incentive!
Knowing that we are in an active battle with invisible and totally yukky, disgusting spirits is our great incentive!
I talk a lot about who goes to heaven, which is probably rightfully the GREATEST INCENTIVE. But if we win this battle we’ll automatically go to heaven.

We must be demon free. We must obey. And when we all do our parts it will be so much easier, because the body of Christ, us believers will be strong. And the more holy we get the more His glory can come.
And then we have His tangibly felt comfort that many of us who have felt it want as fully as we can get it.
“Draw near to god and He’ll draw near to you.” This is a guaranteed principle.
Are we willing to shut all doors Randy Stonehill: “Shut De Do, Keep Out De Devil” so no demons will be able to torment us ever again?
I often mention The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? Opening up the door just a little bit allows this flood of yuck to come in like a flood, and then it’s really hard to get the gate closed again. And most ‘Christians’ are just leaving it open.
And this is how the ‘Christians’ (who were supposed to hold the sin back) opened the flood of sin and demons into our land, destroying it.
But we can shut the gate completely. When we realize what is going on, how lust demons work, how hatred demons work. Then we know that it’s not just our flesh we’re dealing with. It takes 100% cold turkey to be free. And we can do that.
And praying in tongues helps so much. Don’t let anti-Spirit people talk you out of using your #1 demon busting gift, the ability to pray perfectly with pinpoint accuracy — and we don’t even have to visualize the target — we wouldn’t want to.
I’ve had just a few visions of demons. A couple were really nasty. I’m glad that I don’t have to regularly see demons to be able to fight them by praying in the Spirit.
And when we are all operating in our unique gifts, given power and wisdom directly from the Holy Spirit, it will be so much easier to always overcome.
Are you willing to step up and determine to do whatever it takes to win your battles? We can help each other, and then when God comes in His comforting glory we will all be so happy!
Power to the peaceful — the pure in heart. They shall see God. And in God there is fullness of joy. God won’t let us be tempted above which we are able to endure. His comfort will comfort us when the sufferings of Christ flow into our lives (2 Cor. 1).
Let us engage our fights with more vigor and determination to always be totally free, to always walk in love, forgiving everyone from our hearts.
Our enemies are all demon driven. If we can understand that, to love the people always, realizing they don’t fully know what they’re doing because the enemy is so pervasive — and so invisible.

“Father, forgive them, for they no not what they do.”
May that be our prayer.

May we love everyone, forgiving all from our whole hearts.

God bless!

Jeff : )

[music video] Theme for the Third Great Awakening, Rhydian Roberts: Somewhere — "We'll find a new way of living. We'll find a way of forgiving – Somehow – Someday – Somewhere!" — 'ONE' Will Happen!!!!!!!

In Forgive & Be FREE, Getting Right with Each Other, Music Videos, Revival, The Third Great Awakening

There’s a place for us,
Somewhere a place for us.
Peace and quiet and open air
Wait for us
Somewhere.

There’s a time for us,
Someday a time for us,
Time together with time to spare,
Time to learn, time to care,

Someday
Somewhere
We’ll find a new way of living,
We’ll find a way of forgiving
Somewhere.

There’s a place for us,
A time and a place for us.
Hold my hand and we’re half way there.
Hold my hand and I’ll take you there
Somehow,
Someday,

We’ll find a new way of living
We’ll find a way of forgiving
Somewhere

There’s a place for us,
Somewhere a place for us.
Peace and quiet and open air

Hold my hand and I’ll take you there

Somehow
Someday
Somewhere

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2zNB-6J4SE]Rhydian Roberts – Somewhere (with Lyrics)

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Rhydian Roberts – Somewhere

One of Rhydian’s best known songs, “Somewhere” is from the 1961 musical “West Side Story”

As usual, enjoy

From X Factor (Britain’s American Idol)[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhvtg4X2zKw]Rhydian Somewhere

[WordPOWER!] Acts 9:31: Where 'ONE' Happened Throughout the Land! The Key Ingredient Missing Today = The Fear of the Lord!

[WordPOWER!] Acts 5: Great fear came on the whole assembly, many signs and wonders were done. They were all with ‘ONE’ accord. None of the rest dared to join them, however the people honored them. More believers were added.

In Doctrines Demystified, Filled with the HOLY Spirit, Real History, Revival, WordPOWER

* * *

Acts 9:31

So the assemblies throughout all
Judea and Galilee and Samaria
had peace,
and were built up.
They were multiplied,
walking in the fear of the Lord
and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit.

* * *

What is the key ingredient that we’re missing so ONE was happening in “the assemblies throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria?”
They were “walking in the fear of the Lord” — the missing ingredient in today’s ‘church.’
Therefore, because they were walking in the fear of the Lord they had peace, were built up, were multiplied, walking in the comfort of the Holy Spirit (John 14-16, 2 Cor. 1).
“The fear of the Lord” is the beginning of wisdom.
We don’t even have the beginning of wisdom, so ONE can’t happen, Jesus’ prayer for all believers in John 17.
So please, let us embrace the Word of God, what it really says: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
And let’s be ONE, having peace, being built up and multiplied, walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit.
Jeff : )

I just updated: "My notes: R. T. Kendall’s 4th message at Muldoon A of G: On being tomorrow’s man or woman | Being thankful for everything! | The most neglected teaching on the Holy Spirit: The dove is a very shy, sensitive bird. You can be in a car and someone is driving so slow in front of you and the Dove just flies away. Or “I’m just telling the truth,” but the Dove flies away. Let’s learn to get the Dove to come down and maybe the FIRE will fall!"

My notes: R. T. Kendall’s 4th message at Muldoon A of G: On being tomorrow’s man or woman | Being thankful for everything! | The most neglected teaching on the Holy Spirit: The dove is a very shy, sensitive bird. You can be in a car and someone is driving so slow in front of you and the Dove just flies away. Or “I’m just telling the truth,” but the Dove flies away. Let’s learn to get the Dove to come down and maybe the FIRE will fall!

In Freedom

We can be ONE in Christ 24/7 —
ONE with God
and ONE with each other.

Here’s how:

Steve Quayle on 'Coast' 1/6/11 quotes: Christians are supposed to be the salt of the earth. Salt preserves. "The reason the Illuminati are taking over is the pulpits are powerless and the people have no teaching." | It's frustrating to be ahead of time when no one seems to want to listen until it's too late.

In FreedomQuotes, Reverse-Christianity Responsible

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from Coast to Coast AM 1/6/11

“For the Christians who are to be the salt of the earth, salt preserves….

I submit to you that the reason the Illuminati are taking over is, number one: … the pulpits are powerless and the people have no teaching, and the people don’t understand.

It’s like if I put the most powerful weapon in someone’s hands and they don’t know how to use it it won’t do them any good. …

Why does evil triumph over good? Because the good fails to exert the power that God’s given it. …

There was a time when we were the salt of the earth and good held back evil.”

* * *

“No word of God spoken by any word of God to the people of God in all the history of God’s people is ever received by the people of God by the man of God who speaks it at any time. …

God’s people never believe him at the time he speaks it. Only in retrospect do all men see clearly.”

* * *

“It’s tough to be ahead of time, and then wait for everyone to catch up, and then be frustrated during that time.”

– Steve Quayle

Steve quoted Hosea 4:

1 Hear the word of Yahweh, you children of Israel; for Yahweh has a charge against the inhabitants of the land: “Indeed there is no truth, nor goodness, nor knowledge of God in the land.

2 There is cursing, lying, murder, stealing, and committing adultery; they break boundaries, and bloodshed causes bloodshed.

3 Therefore the land will mourn, and everyone who dwells therein will waste away. all living things in her, even the animals of the field and the birds of the sky; yes, the fish of the sea also die.

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Related:
Coast to Coast AM’s Recap

Pastor Chuck Baldwin: A Nation of Truth Rejectors — "Churches are filled with bitterness, carnality, envy, deceit, duplicity, false accusation, greed, and cowardice due to a lack of truth. … Many of those today that are resisting and disabling truth call themselves Christians. … In reality, people who reject truth lose a whole lot more than whatever they had hoped to gain. Eventually, they lose, not only their own lives, but also the life of their country."

In Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, James-3 Cursing People, Lying, Reverse-Christianity Responsible

On January 6, 2011

This, my friends, is a masterpiece!!!

Chuck hits another one out of the park!

We must desire truth, first, in our own hearts [heart’s color added by editor — because we’re literally talking about the actual heart here!]. We MUST be willing to objectively analyze our motives and actions.

Truth also demands courage and honesty, because sometimes it can be very painful to look at! It takes an honest man to desire truth, as truth will often reveal the character flaws in his own soul. It also takes courage to appreciate truth, as truth will often demand that one change his own opinion or conduct.

How can people be so unconcerned about truth and so spiteful toward those who seek it? [James-3 cursing them – editor]

From: chuckbaldwinlive.com…

Posted on Jan 6, 2011

A NATION OF TRUTH REJECTERS

A bedrock principle of Natural Law (the Law upon which Western Civilization rests) is the primacy of truth. Without a desire for, and appreciation of, truth, society cannot sustain itself. Lies, deceit, duplicity, etc., are more than moral evils; they are the bane of freedom and liberty. Take away truth, and one is left without honor, justice, or decency. Truth is the cement that holds the bricks and stones of a sane and civilized society together. Remove the former and the latter will crumble.

Truth also demands courage and honesty, because sometimes it can be very painful to look at! It takes an honest man to desire truth, as truth will often reveal the character flaws in his own soul. It also takes courage to appreciate truth, as truth will often demand that one change his own opinion or conduct. Unfortunately, it does appear that the desire for truth has been replaced with a desire for deceit.

Years ago, a great, old preacher-warrior told my former church congregation, “People today love being lied to.” How right he was! For the most part, even professing Christian people today love being lied to. It would seem that many people find deceit easier to digest than truth. Maybe it’s because these people lack the aforementioned virtues of honesty and courage.

Truth demands the virtue of honesty, because honesty requires that information be objectively analyzed and studied; it requires that personal prejudices and proclivities be set aside; it requires that humility replace pride, which allows one’s opinions and conduct to change in the face of truth.

Truth also demands courage, as courage is the active response to honesty. To know what is right to do is great (many people do not even know this much), but to act upon what one knows to be right is even greater–and also harder! Courage gives men the fortitude and conviction to suffer personal loss in order to be faithful to their own honesty. Courage places more value on honesty and truth than on personal prosperity or aggrandizement [The act or practice of enhancing or exaggerating one’s own importance, power, or reputation – editor]. Courage propelled Daniel into the lion’s den; it drove Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego into the burning fiery furnace; it placed a youthful David onto the battlefield alone against a fierce and ferocious adversary; it gathered Pastor Jonas Clark’s congregants (mostly farmers and merchants) onto Lexington Green to face Britain’s highly trained, professional soldiers.

So, where are the virtues of honesty and courage in the desire for truth today? Threaten the average pastor and church leader with some obscure IRS tax code and they will quickly turn their backs upon virtually every principle of truth and honor that they once professed to believe. The mere threat of potential financial loss sends men (excuse me, males) scurrying for cover.

In this regard, when then-Senator Lyndon Johnson created the heinous 501(c)3 IRS tax-exempt status for churches, he very cleverly (with assistance from Hades, I might add) planted the seeds that would grow up to intimidate the vast majority of America’s pastors and church leaders into becoming silent slaves of the state. In fact, if one has an opportunity to ever bore deeply into the matter, he or she will discover that most pastors and church leaders today do not even regard the Church as the institution of the living God, bound only to the laws and principles of God’s Holy Word; they perceive it as a creature of the state, bound to the subjective machinations of IRS bureaucrats and their toadies in the law profession. And should a choice ever have to be made between the two, God, His Word, and His Church will be thrown under the bus in preference to the state-owned corporation. So much for truth–or honesty, or courage, for that matter.

The rejection of truth seems ubiquitous in America today. When did it start? Maybe when Abraham Lincoln turned the Constitution on its head and–at bayonet point–turned republicanism into nationalism; maybe when Woodrow Wilson rejected thousands of years of human history and turned America’s sound money system over to the corrupt and illegitimate Federal Reserve; maybe when Wilson created the monstrous Internal Revenue Service; maybe when the 17th Amendment was adopted; maybe when the American media convinced people that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy; maybe when the American people (including the vast majority of pastors and Christians) turned their backs (and their hearts) to the Branch Davidians, who were murdered by federal agents outside Waco, Texas; maybe when so-called “conservative” Senate Republicans deliberately chose to cover up President Bill Clinton’s criminal conduct; maybe when the powers that be began demonizing anyone who dared to question the “official” story regarding the events on 9/11/01; maybe when a vast majority of Christians and conservatives blindly followed and actively supported the unconstitutional, un-American policies of President George W. Bush. They supported Bush when he threw off Western Civilization’s time-tested Just War doctrine (and replaced it with an unconscionable Preemptive War policy), and, again, when he officially began turning America into a police state by creating the Department of Homeland Security, implementing the Military Commissions Act, introducing the Patriot Act, and dismantling Habeus Corpus and Posse Comitatus. Whenever it started, the sad reality is, America has largely become a nation of truth-rejecters.

There is a passage of Scripture that I simply must interject here: “Because they received not the love of the truth . . . God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” (II Thess. 2:10,11 KJV)

This is one of God’s universal principles: when people deliberately reject truth, God will allow them to believe lies, which always leads to ultimate destruction. I submit that is exactly where America is today. As a nation, we have rejected truth, and God is giving us over to deceit and falsehood. And what is interesting to me is the way in which many unbelievers seem to have a thirst for truth that far surpasses that of many professing Christians. This leads to an amazing paradox.

Think of it: when God is moving within a nation with His plan of truth and justice (which He is always doing), then it stands to reason that the evil one is, likewise, resisting and countering God’s plan through deceit and falsehood. This means that those unbelievers who seek truth are allying themselves with God (maybe even unwittingly), while those professing Christians who have rejected truth are allying themselves against God (again, maybe even unwittingly). Remember, God called the heathen king, Cyrus, “my shepherd.” (Isa. 44:28) But one thing is constant: truth is like a magnet: one is always being pulled toward it or away from it, depending upon the polarity of one’s heart and mind. People who embrace truth tend to embrace it further, while people who reject truth tend to be continually hardened against it.

Think of the conflicts of world and American history where brothers fought against brothers. Many of these brethren died at the hands of brethren fighting for truth, while other brethren died fighting against truth. And though men may be unable to discern the difference, God suffers from no such malady. He knows those who enable truth and those who disable it. And many of those today that are resisting and disabling truth call themselves Christians. There is another appropriate Scripture: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20 KJV)

Again, the desire for truth is a bedrock principle of a free and independent society. We must desire truth, first, in our own hearts [heart’s color added by editor — because we’re literally talking about the actual heart here!]. We must be willing to objectively analyze our motives and actions based upon this fundamental principle. How can so many people (including professing Christians) behave so dishonestly? How can they act so cowardly? How is it that truth is only precious when it doesn’t cost us anything? How can people be so unconcerned about truth and so spiteful toward those who seek it [James-3 cursing them – editor]? How can those who claim as their Savior the One is “the way, the truth, and the life” be so calloused against truth? How can those who claim to read the word of truth (the Bible) be so ignorant of truth?

Look around you: our society is breaking apart due to a lack of appreciation for truth. Small businesses are being put out of business due to a lack of truth. Families are being torn apart due to a lack of truth. Churches are filled with bitterness, carnality, envy, deceit, duplicity, false accusation, greed, and cowardice due to a lack of truth. Our political institutions mock the principles of decency and honor due to a lack of truth. The national media loves to distort truth; the federal judiciary loves to twist truth; and there is no such thing as truth to Big Business–only bottom line profits [the love of money is… – editor].

As we enter a new year in search of Heaven’s blessing and protection, let us remind ourselves that God always judges people who reject truth. Always! If we truly want Heaven’s blessing and protection upon our land, we will start–each of us–by being willing to seek and embrace truth, even if doing so costs us something; because, in reality, people who reject truth lose a whole lot more than whatever they had hoped to gain. Eventually, they lose, not only their own lives, but also the life of their country.

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'Jeff's Writings' Updated & Expanded

On January 3, 2011

In Personal

I updated Jeff’s Writings,
if you’re interested.

I threw out some of the chaff,
but many are still gems.

I changed some stuff up,
added my most recent faves —
as well as a few photos.

Big job —
but I hope you enjoy it.

I’ll try to again keep it updated.

God bless!

Jeff : )

ONEcanhappen in review 2010

On January 2, 2011

In Freedom

The stats helper monkeys at WordPress.com mulled over how this blog did in 2010, and here’s a high level summary of its overall blog health:
Healthy blog!
The Blog-Health-o-Meter™ reads Wow.

Crunchy numbers

About 3 million people visit the Taj Mahal every year. This blog was viewed about 53,000 times in 2010. If it were the Taj Mahal, it would take about 6 days for that many people to see it.

In 2010, there were 267 new posts, growing the total archive of this blog to 641 posts. There were 42 pictures uploaded, taking up a total of 7mb. That’s about 4 pictures per month.
The busiest day of the year was February 15th with 464 views. The most popular post that day was Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?.

Where did they come from?

The top referring sites in 2010 were tobefree.press, en.wordpress.com, facebook.com, search.aol.com, and mail.live.com.
Some visitors came searching, mostly for who goes to heaven, kenneth hagin, william seymour, dennis cramer, and william seymour 100 year prophecy.

Attractions in 2010

These are the posts and pages that got the most views in 2010.

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? January 2008
78 comments

Sid Roth Interviews John Paul Jackson On The Coming Perfect Storm. “The Woes of 2012! The Woes of 2012!” And Beyond-Asbury, ‘ONE’-Happens, All-Get-Healed REVIVAL!!!!!!! September 2009
9 comments

William Seymour, 1909: Next Revival Will Come in About 100 Years — It’s Due! August 2008
11 comments

Louie Giglio: How GREAT Is Our GOD — The Heavens Proclaim the GLORY of GOD! (But laminin doesn’t support the false doctrine of once-saved-always-saved) January 2010
27 comments

“No One Else Can Love You…” — IHOP 9/19/09 December 2009

Bruce Springsteen & Neil Young: All Along The Watchtower — "No reason to get excited," the thief [through all-smiles pastors] he kindly spoke. … Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late!"