[3-minute video] Francis Frangipane: “I’m Sorry; I was Wrong; Please Forgive Me”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sONybm4TOAw]I’m Sorry. I was Wrong. Please Forgive Me – Francis Frangipane

Uploaded by on Aug 25, 2010

For more books, audios, videos and e-Books from Francis Frangipane, please visit www.arrowbookstore.com

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The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “Let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned.”

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent

[WordPower!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”

Michael W. Smith soundtracked Canon camera production animation! — What man can do reflects Who God is!!!!!!!

Description from: petapixel.com…

Animation Showing How the Canon 10D and 24-85mm Lens are Assembled

This animation was created by students of the Engineering 128: Advanced Engineering Design Graphics course at UC Berkeley during the Spring 2008 semester. The first part shows a Canon 10D DSLR exploding into its individual parts, and then those parts coming together again to slowly rebuild the camera, while the second part does the same for a Canon 24-85mm lens. Pretty…impressive considering that it’s for an undergraduate course.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-HiBDLVzYw]UC Berkeley E128 Final Project – Canon 10D DSLR v2

Uploaded by on Jun 9, 2008

Canon 10D & 24-85mm F/3.5-4.5 Lens Animation
Version 2

Presented by:
Matthew Farrell
Michelle Pang
Michael Tom

University of California, Berkeley
Engineering 128
Advanced Engineering Design Graphics
Spring 2008

Software Used:
Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0
SolidWorks 2005
Autodesk Viz 2008

Songs Used:
零 (零的自我分裂之歌) – Mars Soundtrack
Thy Word – Michael W. Smith
The Offering – Michael W. Smith
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Original Version 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lOJ1CFquzw

My theory on the Nephilim: When God told the Children of Israel to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan (the giants), there was this Genesis-6, demon-contaminated genetic problem again? Israel did not; and then there was intermarriage. This would explain why so many seem to be predisposed towards evil — and they become our leaders — even of churches?!!

This may be the most controversial concept I’ll suggest at this site, but it’s a theory that explains so much, that I must finally share this view that I’ve been considering for about a few decades.

How is it that we can write about issues so clearly, proving them beyond the shadow of a doubt, yet many reject them wholesale, like the very clear doctrine of who really goes to heaven, for example?

No one can refute Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?, and once-saved-always-saved has been soundly refuted by many, yet this great deception is still mainstream in America — which I believe is the number one cause for our Republic’s destruction. When the ‘Christians’ cease being salt and light, thinking they don’t have to truly be in Christ….

Certainly, the demons that affect most ‘Christians’ are a huge factor. I have an entire category called “Demons in Christians,” in which there are almost 60 posts, currently. I show how demons can absolutely be in Christians. Most have many. This is a huge problem, and certainly this is true of non-Christians as well. Demons empower people to commit and then justify their sins. Most people don’t live holy enough to be free.

And James talks about how ‘Christians’ can actually curse people, what I call James-3 curses. ‘Christians’ can actually wish/pray things on others from their hearts. But these are ‘prayers’/curses that demons answer, not God. And these demons can set the course for people’s lives.

But demons in ‘Christians’ doesn’t by itself explain why so many ‘Christians’ just don’t get it, no matter how clearly we put out the truth. And to make things worse, it seems that today’s church leaders are almost universally unable to understand what is really true about key, basic doctrines. They also seem to be among those most apt to James-3 curse God’s people whom they consider are challenges to their power, for example: Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable”

I personally have probably been cursed by ‘church’ leaders more than any other group of people. It’s fierce, which I show here.

It seems to me, having been a Christian for more than 35 years, that there is something more going on here. Why are most church leaders not even really Christlike, yet few will fully step down and let those who truly are led by the Spirit lead.

They maintain their position by James-3 cursing those whom they see threaten their position of power. They’ll pray against those who would start legitimate churches in which Jesus Christ would be Head — and they’ll vote Republican no matter what, supporting every reverse-Christian war — totally ignoring Ron Paul, the peacemaker. They don’t seem to understand at all how the second greatest commandment applies to our neighbors overseas too. They just don’t get it, and they’ll hardly ever apologize to anyone they’ve hurt, totally ignoring Paul’s elders’ qualifications that overseers MUST be blameless. They seem to have no fear of God. How can this be?

How can church leaders say one thing and do another? And how can they so readily dismiss clear prophecies given to them by those who have been so careful to accurately hear?

And they’ll even lie to cover up what they’ve done, instead of coming clean so we can become ONE in Christ — so God can move among us as His body. How can they lie, knowing what the Bible so clearly says about what happens to all liars? There is mischief in their hearts (Psalm 28), but on the outside they act like everything is okay, “ha, ha, ha” laughing.

Is it possible that many people have a greater propensity for evil based upon their bloodlines, and therefore they force themselves into these power, limelight positions?

I’ve actually put my Nephilim theory aside for many recent years, because I really don’t want to minimize what any person can do. But I’ve just seen too often some people just don’t act like full people. John Prine put it this way:

Some humans ain’t human
Some people ain’t kind
You open up their hearts
And here’s what you’ll find
A few frozen pizzas
Some ice cubes with hair
A broken Popsicle
You don’t want to go there

Watch him sing it here:

John Prine: “Some Humans Ain’t Human” — Austin City Limits

Biblically, this is how I think it comes down. This is a good background reference from which I’ll quote; though, they don’t go exactly where I do: Notes on the Nephilim: The Giants of Old, which is a collection of seven writings by these seven authors: James Montgomery Boice | Henry Morris | Chuck Missler | Ray C. Stedman | Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum | Rick Lanser | Bob Deffingbaugh, Th.M.

Genesis 6

1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 2 that God’s sons [bene elohim*] saw that men’s daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose. 3 Yahweh said, “My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years.” 4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God’s sons came in to men’s daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Yahweh saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 Yahweh was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart. 7 Yahweh said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the surface of the ground; man, along with animals, creeping things, and birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in Yahweh’s eyes.

9 This is the history of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless [his human genes weren’t altered by this spirit-sexual invasion, some say] among the people of his time. Noah walked with God. 10 Noah became the father of three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 The earth was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 God saw the earth, and saw that it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.

13 God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before me, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

* bene elohim, from: Notes on the Nephilim

The phrase “sons of God” (bene elohim) is used only three other times in the Testament, as indicated earlier-in Job 1:6; 2:1; and 38:7. In each case it clearly means spirit beings

The most common interpretation (backed by the Book of Enoch, a non-biblical, but still important work) has been that fallen angles had sex with human women, who bore hybrid offspring who were part demon and part human. And therefore the huge gap between the evil that prevailed in Noah’s day and the righteousness of Noah, himself, whose bloodline was kept pure, from which Jesus was born. I would say all mankind after the flood, but according to Genesis 6, this bizarre union between demons and humans happened again after the flood, which is why God told the Children of Israel to kill all of the giants in the Land of Canaan. Why else would He say that?

Chuck Missler from Notes on the Nephilim

7. Post-Flood Implications

The strange offspring also continued after the flood: “There were Nephilim in the earth in those days, and also after that…” (25) The “Sethite” view fails to meaningfully address the prevailing conditions “also after that.” It offers no insight into the presence of the subsequent “giants” in the land of Canaan.

One of the disturbing aspects of the Old Testament record was God’s instructions, upon entering the land of Canaan, to wipe out every man, woman, and child of certain tribes inhabiting the land. This is difficult to justify without the insight of a “gene pool problem” from the remaining Nephilim, Rephaim, et al., which seems to illuminate the difficulty.

So this is what I think could have actually happened. After the flood, after God wiped out the demon-contaminated gene pool, the Nephilim strange offspring breeding happened again. Caleb reported there were giants. This time, God told the children of Israel to wipe out every man, woman and child, to take care of this gene pool contamination problem. But Israel did not, and eventually even interbred with the Nephilim.

So today, many, if not most people (according to this theory) have some demon in their genetics; though, probably less than the 50% ratio that the original Nephilim had, who were so evil that God decided to wipe them all out in the flood, and then have the children of Israel kill them all, when it happened again (though they did not).

These are the scoundrels, who force their way to most of the top political, corporate and power positions, including church leadership.

They can lie without even hardly feeling guilty. The root of all evil, the love of money often drives them in one way or another — and they’ll James-3 curse those who they see are a threat to their power — those who would lead the country, businesses and churches justly, under God — not just saying they are.

They’ll think that those who aren’t demon-gene contaminated are weird, actually calling for real holiness and real integrity — that we would actually really treat our neighbors (even those overseas) as we would ourselves.

And the minority, who aren’t demon-gene contaminated can more easily see. Many have also been deceived into swimming in the mainstream current that is taking US down, but writings like my own make sense to them. And they, like me are have a hard time realizing why humans, who are supposed to be created in the image of God are not more wise.

I don’t want to name any names, but I can think of a particular talk show host that many Republicans listen to who is clearly not one of us; though, he acts like he’s the gift of God to America. Bush could do know wrong, according to Him: all of the reverse-Christian wars and the Constitution gutting policies — the bankster bailout — and even laughing about torture! And President George W. Bush ran as a Christian. And few were wise enough and Biblical enough to see through the facade that he and so many wear.

Who really is a Christian? Who are the children of God, really? Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Those of us who can see should stick together and get ONE happening. If we don’t lead who will — the same old same old who are leading US into the pit?

Once ONE happens (John 17), then many will see and follow as God’s glory literally falls, and perhaps many will even get gene transplants, which I’ve thought of as a very real possibility.

Another key thing to learn here. This should help us have more compassion for those of us who are so evil to us without cause. Maybe they really just are predisposed, based upon their altered genetics, to evil, and it really is much harder for them to see.

And as we forgive fully, then their curses have no right to stick onto us — and we can all be free!

It seems that America is going down fast, but the church can rise up, and this can be the greatest adventure of our entire lives — ONE with each other in Christ.

Jesus wants to be the head of the church. All church leaders must be truly submitted to Him, or they can’t even be real Christians, let alone qualified to lead, being ‘blameless,’ Paul said. And “those who are Christ’s have crucified their flesh.”

Many pastors are simply confidence-men (con-men). They can tell a good story — and laugh “ha, ha, ha” — as a substitute for the Holy Spirit moving…. What we need are leaders who can lead us to worship God in Spirit and in truth — those whom God chooses to lead.

Then the end will come, after the Gospel (the real Gospel) is preached around the world. Now we’re mostly spreading a cheap imitation in which God isn’t even involved.

May we be ONE.

Then the world will know.

Jeff Fenske

Related:

I touched upon this in 2007: Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘A God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace’

Could this have been true of John Calvin and Martin Luther, whose misinterpretations of Paul’s teaching on salvation are mainstream today? They were clearly Biblically disqualified to lead, yet many follow their doctrine?

John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake for Having Doctrinal Differences — His Ashes Cry Out!

The Protestant Reformers Were Frauds: An Anabaptist speaks out on Martin Luther and John Calvin

Martin Luther: Sin Boldly — “No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day”

Luther: Let us BANISH the epistle of James, for it is ‘WORTHLESS’ — written by a non-Christian and can’t be reconciled with Paul

[ video ] Is Pope Francis the LAST POPE? Tom Horn & Cris Putnam on It’s Supernatural with Sid Roth – Tom and Cris also talk about the Nephilim, UFOs, and Catholic research.

[And I thought Metallica was bad] (video) Qlimax: Satanism through techno! — “Get ready, ’cause tonight the Devil is a DJ! … The lord’s advantage lies in his ability to influence the weak-minded.”

I wrote this at ToBeFree

Qlimax
is an annual event held by the Dutch entertainment enterprise, Q-Dance.
It is considered one of the leading hardstyle events on the calendar…
(Wikipedia)

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And I thought Metallica was bad:

Exit light,
enter night.

“MASTER OF PUPPETS”

End of passion play
Crumbling away
I’m your source of self-destruction…

Taste me you will see
More is all you need

Dedicated to
How I’m killing you

Come crawling faster
Obey your master
Your life burns faster
Obey your master
Master

Master of puppets
I’m pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams

Blinded by me
You can’t see a thing
Just call my name ’cause I’ll hear you scream

Master
Master

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Now,
watch them suck in pure evil at Qlimax
!

“Get ready, ’cause tonight the Devil is a DJ!”

“The lord’s advantage lies in his ability to influence the weak-minded.”

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The remedy
is at my spiritual site:

ONEcanhappen

Jesus prayed that we’d be ONE
with each other
in Him.

Then the world will know….

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7MNCA77IR0]world deception pt28

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk5HTc0RDTE]world deception pt29

Uploaded by on Nov 29, 2009

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD AND AWARENESS OF THIS
Original Series by Chemlin

Part 1 – Newsmedia’s Fake lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA1TPKP5_No

Part 2 – Fearspreading hollywood Propaganda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVuVbPxwm3A

Part 3 – Apocalyptic Fearspreading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzliHQ-AH9s

Part 4 – Genetics and Censorship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe7BDHlP58E

Part 5 – Robotics and A.I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgtWycF8LEY

Part 6 – Can you see?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHbEwAOX6ps

Part 7 – Economy and more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29PeqExoV6g

Part 8 – Quick look at symbols
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S5AXzoab6U

Part 9 – The “Black Pope”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uum1AKFTUaU

Part 10 – AJ Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5deVCkvbDA

Part 11 – AJ Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVmL9ErTzkU

Part 12 – AJ Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTPZQ-iTyfM

Part 13 – Inappropriate Toys and Candies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vf5C5Hj_l8

Part 14 – Who is Sasha Fierce?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAFEszqnPbY

Part 15 – Are you afraid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QXRrokFuFU

Part 16 – TV and internet Commercials
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1kneEINZ38

Part 17 – Can we define reality?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6d1xSxhsk

Part 18 – Sleep Paralysis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvnUvchrmvw

Part 19 – Hypnotized
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muRd6vmhpCw

Part 20 – Did you say UFO?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byv0DPo_zMQ

Part 21 – Video Games Pt.1 – Fear and violence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ue5tOPK48

Part 22 – Video Games Pt.2 – Demonic and satanic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0E-v9vvyc

Part 23 – Video Games Pt.3 – Hidden messages and symbolism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D68p28_A6wE

Part 24 – Video Games Pt.4 – Obsesion and Possession
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sco-_oy4mGA

Part 25 – Subliminal Messages
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYJu3jGYclY

Part 26 – Childhood Witchcraft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkU9pUJQEc

Part 27 – More worship in music Pt.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_aQuCQ_yIo

Part 28 – More worship in music Pt.2 Qlimax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7MNCA77IR0

Part 29 – More worship in music Pt.3 Qlimax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk5HTc0RDTE

Part 30 – Mark of the devil? RFID
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2GJQDDrUk8

Part 31 – Consciouness explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpg-Q1WGNU

Part 32 – Stupidity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFaa345pmsY

Part 33 – Mad World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciEz1sNvTyo

Part 34 – Pills are good, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2-Hgul3mDA

Part 35 – I’ll tell you what
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mytlVbxk3eY

Part 36 – Final words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkVk1x1Ot0s

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Metallica channels Satan in ‘MASTER OF PUPPETS’: “I’m pulling your strings, twisting your mind and smashing your dreams. Blinded by me, you can’t see a thing. Just call my name, ’cause I’ll hear you scream, ‘Master’!” — “I’m your source of self-destruction”

[10-minute video] Francis Chan: Erasing Hell — “Do you ever even consider the possibility that maybe the Creator’s sense of justice is actually more developed than yours? And that maybe His love and His mercy are perfect, and that you could be the one that is flawed. … We can’t afford to be wrong on this issue.”

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

“Do you ever even consider the possibility that maybe the Creator’s sense of justice is actually more developed than yours? And that maybe His love and His mercy are perfect, and that you could be the one that is flawed.”

“We can’t afford to be wrong on this issue.”

Francis is writing a book on Hell:
“I just want to present this fairly, and I don’t want to misrepresent Him.”

– Francis Chan

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnrJVTSYLr8]Erasing Hell by Francis Chan

Uploaded by on May 19, 2011

Important message from Francis Chan, Hell: We can’t afford to get it wrong.
Erasing Hell will be coming out July 5th. When sharing this video on twitter please use #Erasinghell

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[EXCELLENT video] Francis Chan and Preston Sprinkle: Erasing Hell — “He gets to define what love is, and not us.” “That means my sin is way worse than I could ever even imagine.” | ~”I think this whole concept of ‘how could God do this’ is woven into the fabric of our culture that says ‘how dare my dad tell me what I can and cannot do!’ We’ve lost the idea of authority, and it’s killing our culture.”

[Q&A] Francis Chan on Rob Bell and Hell: Why ‘ERASING HELL’ was Francis’ most difficult book and how it prompted him to repent for softening Jesus’ warnings — “WE IN AMERICA READ CERTAIN PASSAGES OVER AND OVER TO THE NEGLECT OF OTHERS, we start to believe that Jesus had a friendly tone all the time. … We have tried to block Hell out of our minds. Yet because it’s written about so often in Scripture, I think God does want it on the forefront.”

All of my Hell is Real — Forever Posts (Most recent listed first)

[The place of FREEDOM — where we will be SAFE and find REST] Francis Chan on loving God with ALL of our HEART: “In Moses’ time, the HEART was understood to be the seat of a person’s emotions, the very center of his being, the place where decisions are made.”

FRANCIS CHAN from his book “Crazy Love,”
emphasis mostly mine

The Engrossed

Jesus didn’t pull the greatest command out of nowhere. He hearkened all the way back to the days of Moses, when God says to His people,

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts, Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. Write them on the door-frames of your houses and on your gates.

—Deuteronomy 6:4–9

In Moses’ time, the heart was understood to be the seat of a person’s emotions, the very center of his being, the place where decisions are made. The soul was considered the basis for a person’s traits and qualities, or his personality. Strength refers to physical, mental, and spiritual strength.

So within this command to love God with “all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength,” every fiber of humanity is addressed. Our goal as people who follow Christ should be no less than becoming people who are madly in love with God.

A person who is obsessed with God is
characterized by committed,
settled, passionate love for God,
above and before every other thing
and every other being.

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Related:

Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God at Amazon [paperback, Kindle, and audio editions]

Francis Chan Freedom Quotes!

Brandy: Review of “Crazy Love: Overwhelmed By a Relentless God” — Francis Chan has put his finger on the problem in American Christianity.

Francis Chan Freedom Quotes: Lukewarm People — “Lukewarm people call ‘radical’ what Jesus expected of ALL His followers.” — “Lukewarm people feel secure because they attend church, made a profession of faith at age twelve, were baptized, come from a Christian family, vote Republican…” — More…

Alex Jones: The pre-trib rapture doctrine is a big, sickening, psyop, bringing US into tyranny! “Most of you are a bunch of torture loving, war loving people…”

I brought this over from ToBeFree.

Alex Jones is a talk show host trying to wake up people to tyranny being brought upon US by the globalists. He sees what is going on with ‘Christians’ too, who have been key supporters of globalist candidates like President George W. Bush, who have thrashed our country and the Constitution, just like Obama is doing.

The unbiblical pre-trib rapture doctrine is one of the main psyop ways Satan is able to convince ‘Christians’ that they don’t really have to follow Christ. Thus, America is falling fast, and it won’t be pretty for anyone.

The ‘Christians’ won’t get taken out before things get really bad.

I put ‘Christians’ in quotes, because most really aren’t, biblically. Most ‘Christians’ wouldn’t go even if there was a pre-trib rapture. See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

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“Most of you [pre-trib-rapture-believing ‘Christians’]
are a bunch of torture loving,
war loving people,
who go along with tyranny,
and then never go out and protest abortion
because the world is ending next week.

It’s a big, sickening, psyop cop out.”

– Alex Jones

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omo3L-wNmmc]Preview of Today’s Alex Jones Show: Jerome Corsi, Bob Chapman & Demonizing Christians

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXQ2o09n9vw]The Alex Jones Show: A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing 1/2

Uploaded by on May 20, 2011

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2W6oS5jASw]

Related:

Delusional preacher Harold Camping says May 21st to be the Rapture and Judgment Day — Caller asks Camping: “On May 22nd, do they [contributors to Family Radio who believed this hoax] get a refund?”

12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Delusional preacher Harold Camping says May 21st to be the Rapture and Judgment Day — Caller asks Camping: “On May 22nd, do they [contributors to Family Radio who believed this hoax] get a refund?”

Jesus
(Mark 13:32-33)

“But of that day or that hour no one knows,
not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Watch, keep alert, and pray;
for you don’t know when the time is.”

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9acwNHKvoo]Harold Camping says Millions will die on May 21, 2011

Uploaded by on Nov 20, 2009

Harold Camping proclaims the rapture will happen on May 21, 2011. He say’s if you don’t believe “his” prediction with all your heart, then you will be left behind to face the wrath of God.

Moreover, according to the Jewish tradition of that day, the betrothal was a common form of wedding. In this tradition we see that the “FATHER” of the bridegroom was the only one who knew at what time he would send out the BRIDEGROOM (Jesus) his son to take the BRIDE (true church/saints) to live with Him.

So Jesus was giving a parable of His return and applying it in an applicable context to the culture of that day.

What a wonderful God!

Yes, Christ is coming back, but he doesn’t reveal the date of his coming because even he doesn’t know, only the Father knows the exact timing when to send back his Son to catch up the saints.

Please watch out for these false prophets, there will be plenty more as the real day approaches.

Related:

12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture

Alex Jones: The pre-trib rapture doctrine is a big, sickening, psyop, bringing US into tyranny! “Most of you are a bunch of torture loving, war loving people…”

Francis Chan: “We are consumed by safety. Obsessed with it, actually. …we’ve made safety our highest priority. We’ve elevated safety to the neglect of whatever God’s best is, whatever would bring God the most glory, or whatever would accomplish His purposes in our lives and in the world.”

We can now see that this obsession with safety, which Francis Chan shows here is reverse-Christianity, is how they’re able to bring US into a police state — as most American ‘Christians’ are willing to allow even their daughters’ naked bodies to be seen by TSA screeners; though, the chances of being killed by a terrorist is less than being killed by a bee sting.

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Excerpt from Crazy Love by Francis Chan, page 133 (original formatting)

Risk Takers

Haven’t we all prayed the following prayer? Lord, we pray for safety as we travel. We ask that no one gets hurt on this trip. Please keep everyone safe until we return, and bring us back safely. In Jesus’ name we pray, amen. The exact wording may vary a bit, but that is the standard prayer we recite before leaving on mission trips, retreats, vacations, and business trips.

We are consumed by safety. Obsessed with it, actually. Now, I’m not saying it is wrong to pray for God’s protection, but I am questioning how we’ve made safety our highest priority. We’ve elevated safety to the neglect of whatever God’s best is, whatever would bring God the most glory, or whatever would accomplish His purposes in our lives and in the world.

Would you be willing to pray this prayer? God, bring me closer to You during this trip, whatever it takes….

People who are obsessed with
Jesus aren’t consumed with their
personal safety and comfort above
all else. Obsessed people care
more about God’s kingdom coming
to this earth than their own lives
being shielded from pain or
distress.

Related:

4-minute video[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA_uwWPE6lQ]Francis Chan – Balance Beam

Francis Chan Freedom Quotes!

Francis Chan’s ‘Last Sermon’ — There will be no cowards in heaven

It’s Official: A Majority Of Americans Would Give Up Liberty In Order To Be Safe From Terrorism. Almost 4 out of 5 Americans are perfectly fine with letting airport security officials gawk at their naked bodies just so they can feel a bit safer from terrorists.

Americans Are Just As Likely to Get Struck By Lightning Than Killed By Terrorists — So why are why are pastors saying nothing as the people line up to get strip searched?

Benjamin Franklin on naked body scanners: “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”

TSA Tactics Find Ominous Parallel in Nazi Germany — It took Hitler and the Nazis nearly a decade to impose a murderous police state on the German people. In the wake of the staged burning of the Reichstag…

All of my Naked Body Scanners posts at ToBeFree

Ken Duncan: Why I call this photo “Piercing the Darkness” — “It’s like God revealing His glory … There is hope even in the darkest moments!”

Ken Duncan’s prices have become outrageous — out of the reach of most people. But I’ve always greatly appreciated his perspective on photographing to reveal God’s glory, and then print BIG to greatly affect a room!

…which is what I’m trying to do.

jeff

3-minute video presentation

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The Print:
Piercing the Darkness
starting at $1900

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“It’s like God revealing His glory.”

Have it BIG as you can get it,
cause you’ll just fall into it.”

“Hopefully what it will convey to you:
there is hope even in the darkest moments.”

– Ken Duncan

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

Photographer Patrick Di Fruscia: The World Needs You :) — “Everyday we are bombarded by reasons why we should not do what our heart tells us … words with no foundation brought to you by people with no passion.” “Fear is a transition stage between your so called zone of comfort and your new life!”

Patrick Di Fruscia, an absolutely pioneering and inspiring photographer is French/Canadian — thus the unique grammar.

As usual, emphasis is mine.

jeff : )

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From: natureismykingdom.com

The World Needs You 🙂

Patrick Di Fruscia

Everyday we are bombarded by reasons why we should not do what our heart tell us. Reasons like, it will never work, there is no money to be made in that field, it will be very difficult etc. Most of the time we are being told what we should and shouldn’t do by people who have never followed their dreams and passion and are now simply wishing they had done more to make it happen. These are merely words with no foundation brought to you by people with no passion.

You need to believe in everything your heart desire. If you don’t nobody will that’s for sure. You need to make sure that everyday you take a step however small it may be towards your goals. Always stay focus even when times are hard. When fear takes over, don’t worry about it ..this is a transition stage between your so call zone of comfort and your new life..keep pushing harder and don’t let that discourage you. Fear of the unknown is one of our greatest enemy and it has the power to make us believe a hundred fictional reasons why it will never work. Always Stay focus on the end result and visualize your new life

Entire Article with Scrumptious Photo Here

Texas Rep. David Simpson: Bill Would Criminalize TSA for Molesting Travelers — The government should protect our identity, not take it away! — “Refuse to go through the naked body scanner. Protect your dignity.”

“We’re taking away people’s dignity,
their privacy,
and we’re limiting their freedom.

The government should keep us from harming one another.
It shouldn’t harm us.
And it should protect our freedom,
protect our dignity.”

“Refuse to go through the naked body scanner.
Protect your dignity.”

– Rep. David Simpson

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4BGBUlMUwg]Tex Rep. David Simpson: Bill Would Criminalize TSA for Molesting Travelers

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Alex welcomes to the show Texas Republican Rep. David Simpson, who is the sponsor of a bill passed in the Texas House that will make it a criminal offense for the TSA to inappropriately touch travelers during airport intrusive pat-downs. Simpson says the legislation will prevent TSA officials from treating travelers like criminals.
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Americans Are Just As Likely to Get Struck By Lightning Than Killed By Terrorists — So why are why are pastors saying nothing as the people line up to get strip searched?

What does God say? Women, children and men exposing themselves to TSAs in NAKED BODY SCANNERS!

The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Separation from the World — What the Early Christians Believed About Separation from the World. D. Bercot. The Bible exhorts us: “Adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” So…

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Modest Dress and Cosmetics — How literally did the early Christians take Peter’s exortation?

Wes Hall: It’s Not Just Porn! “You’re asking for power and there are areas of hidden compromise in your life. … I’m not talking about the R-rated movies. I’m talking about the PG-13s … certain sitcoms, TV shows where your spirit is being defiled.”

A Nation ‘Bewitched’: Farrah Fawcett — “When the show [Charlie’s Angels] got to be No. 3, I figured it was our acting. When it got to be No. 1, I decided it could only be because none of us wears a bra”

1942 Minnesota: Bathing beaches prior to the low-cut top epidemic

All of my Lust Freedom! posts

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Radiation scientists agree TSA naked body scanners could cause breast cancer and sperm mutations

PROBLEM > REACTION > SOLUTION: FBI manufactures terrorism to cause fear so public will accept the naked body scanner police state

Paul Craig Roberts: TSA is a far greater threat to Americans than are terrorists. There has not been a successful terrorist act since 9/11, and thousands of independent experts doubt the government’s explanation of that event. The very fact that the FBI has to orchestrate fake terrorism proves the absence of real terrorists. If Americans were more thoughtful and less gullible…

IMPORTANT! Alex Jones: Another Clueless Patsy Set-up by FBI in Christmas Tree Bombing Plot — “…so they can sit up there on the news and say: ‘We’ve got terrorists everywhere. We’ve gotta have naked body scanners!’”

Naked body scanners: You can see the bones in people’s fingers. They’ve been giving the public de-rezzed images.

The real purpose of naked body scanners: Using phony terrorist scares to bilk Americans out of millions in tax dollars and rob them of their privacy and dignity

The TSAs paid to view Americans’ naked bodies: Airport passenger screener charged in distributing child pornography

RON PAUL: Crotch Groped by TSA, Calls for Boycott of Airlines — “If we tolerate this there’s something wrong with us” ~”SHOWING OUR PAPERS, we’ve capitulated on that a long time ago, because we show our social security number, but NOW THEY WANT US TO SHOW OUR GENITALIA!”

Naked body scanners will be everywhere! Napolitano: Next step for body scanners could be trains, boats, metro

Gerald Celente on naked body scanners and full-body pat-downs: They freaked the whole country out over the underwear bomber who didn’t even have an igniter!

TSA Tactics Find Ominous Parallel in Nazi Germany — It took Hitler and the Nazis nearly a decade to impose a murderous police state on the German people. In the wake of the staged burning of the Reichstag…

IRRATIONALlY FEARFUL: Why are people so willing to show their naked bodies? “More people die each year from honey bee stings than from terror” — Alex Jones

More Proof! Photo: Naked Body Scanners Really Can Show Naked Bodies — and Even Bones!

Photo/Video: Naked Body Scanners Really Do Show Naked Bodies

Benjamin Franklin on naked body scanners: “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”

Paul Craig Roberts: “People have forgotten the warnings of the founding fathers that you can’t trade your rights for safety, because the minute you don’t have your rights anymore you’re not safe”

Naked Body Scanners, Michael Chertoff and NPR

Airport Naked Body Scanners: Experts Now Warn X-ray Devices “could give you cancer” “because the beam concentrates on the skin — one of the most radiation-sensitive organs of the human body — that (the) dose may be up to 20 times higher than first estimated”

Excellent! How to opt out of the TSA’s naked body scanners at the airport — “They all just lined up like cattle to have their bodies scanned with ionizing radiation”

Feds Caught Storing Naked Body Scanner Images at Florida Courthouse Security Checkpoint

Katherine Albrecht: Nakedizing Machines — “Would you get naked for Big Brother?” Katherine won’t.

Biochemist: ‘Naked’ scanners may increase cancer risk — “While the dose would be safe if it were distributed throughout the volume of the entire body, the dose to the skin may be dangerously high”

Miami airport security guard attacks colleague over ‘manhood’ jokes after walking through full nudity body scanner

Full-Body Airport Scanners May Not Have Thwarted Alleged Christmas Day Bomber, GAO says.

Airport security guard was given a police warning after he was caught staring at images of a female colleague in a body scanner. — Their solution is training and monitoring to ensure that TSAs will only be able to lust “lawfully, with fairness and without discriminating.” Where is the outcry from women, from fathers — from the pastors???

Transportation Security Administration is misleading the public (lying). Body scanners can store, send images, group says.

Airport Worker Caught Ogling Image of Woman on Naked Body Scanner — called “perv scanner” in Europe

Pornographic Scanners: The TSA has been trying to turn airports into peep-shows courtesy of these strip-machines since 2002. Then along comes Umar Farouk Abdullmutallab and his burning britches, and bingo …

Exposed — Naked Body Scanner Images Of Film Star Printed, Circulated By Airport Staff

Aussie TSA on ‘naked’ full-body scanners: “It will show the private parts of people, but what we’ve decided is that we’re not going to blur those out, because it severely limits the detection capabilities.”

It’s Official: A Majority Of Americans Would Give Up Liberty In Order To Be Safe From Terrorism. Almost 4 out of 5 Americans are perfectly fine with letting airport security officials gawk at their naked bodies just so they can feel a bit safer from terrorists.

Breaking The Will Of The People: The Real Purpose Of Body Scanners

FBI LIED 5 TIMES about the underwear bomber. Full-body scanners were scheduled to be installed in hundreds of US airports BEFORE incident! PROBLEM > REACTION > SOLUTION. But body scanners wouldn’t have stopped incident anyway?

Pastor Chuck Baldwin: The Death Of Bin Laden; The Death Of America

From: http://chuckbaldwinlive.com…

Posted on May 12, 2011

The Death Of Bin Laden; The Death Of America

News outlets all over America have repeatedly announced the government story that Navy SEALS recently killed Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in a palatial “safe house” in Pakistan. But, of course, government photos of the dead bin Laden will not be released to the public for fear of inciting animosity among bin Laden’s militant Muslim followers–as if the announcement that he had been killed wouldn’t be enough to enrage them! And, furthermore, the body of bin Laden was quickly buried at sea out of “respect” for Muslim tradition that one has a speedy burial. But no mention is made, of course, as to why his body could not have been buried. Were all nearby cemeteries filled? And the question, “Why were the rest of the dead bodies of the other Muslims who were killed in the raid also not buried at sea?” has neither been asked nor answered. The media simply keeps regurgitating the announcement that Navy SEALS killed bin Laden. And, of course, the one thing a burial at sea accomplishes is it circumvents any attempt by independent sources to confirm the true identity of bin Laden via a post burial examination.

Is Osama bin Laden really dead? I don’t think there is any question about it. In fact, bin Laden has been dead for several years. If readers will recall, this is the latest of several announcements by various government spokesmen that Osama bin Laden left the land of the living. As respected researcher Joel Skousen notes in his latest World Affairs Brief, no less than 9 public announcements of bin Laden’s demise have been made spanning the years 2001-2009.

For example, on January 18, 2002, the Pakistani President declared, “I think now, frankly, he [bin Laden] is dead.”

In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN, “I would come to believe that [bin Laden] probably is dead.”

In November of 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in October of that year.

In September of 2006, French intelligence leaked a report suggesting Osama had died in Pakistan.

In March of 2009, noted military and intelligence analyst Angelo Codevilla stated, “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama bin Laden.”

And in May of 2009, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari said, “I’ve said before that he [bin Laden]–I don’t think he’s alive.” He also said the head of US intelligence told him they [the US] hadn’t heard from Osama bin Laden in 7 years so they presumed him dead.”

Skousen also points out the fact that it is unfathomable that bin Laden could have remained alive and hiding out in caves and primitive safe houses for an extended period of time, because it was a well known fact that he suffered from acute kidney disease that required almost daily usage of a dialysis machine (which was NOT present in the home where the US government claimed he was shot). US intelligence personnel surely knew that bin Laden was treated at the American Hospital in Dubai in July of 2001 by Dr. Terry Callaway, and that CIA station chief Larry Mitchell met bin Laden in the hospital during the time he was admitted. In fact, French television and the Agence France Presse reported that bin Laden was hospitalized between July 4th and 14th of that year.

See Joel Skousen’s web site at:

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/

I certainly do not doubt that Navy SEALS killed someone during that raid. In all likelihood, it was a bin Laden look-alike who had outlived his usefulness. The official story of the raid has changed so many times and has so many holes in it, it is an embarrassment to the US national press corps that they have carried the story “as is” in such a careless and unprofessional manner. But, then again, the national press corps has been little more than a national propaganda machine for the federal government for decades, anyway. So, why should this story be any different?

At this point, I encourage readers to check out the following report that chronicles some of the more obvious discrepancies and laughable explanations of the government’s official story (or more appropriately, stories):

http://tinyurl.com/446qt5g

So, the obvious question that needs to be asked is, “What is to be gained by the announcement of this raid in which Osama bin Laden was supposedly killed?”

For one thing, this is going to make it extremely difficult for Republicans to beat President Barack Obama in the 2012 elections. Immediately following the raid’s announcement, Obama’s approval rating soared by almost 25 percentage points. And with an extremely weak GOP Presidential field (believe it or not, Republican Congressman Ron Paul actually fares better head-to-head against Obama than any other Republican candidate–but the Powers That Be (PTB) within the propaganda media and the GOP establishment will do everything in their power to prevent Paul from gaining the nomination), the “bin Laden factor” makes Obama almost unbeatable. As Skousen astutely asked, how many terrorists have Gingrich, Palin, or Huckabee killed?

However, the thing that benefits the most from this raid is America’s emerging police state, which is now strategically positioned to take another giant leap forward.

With bin Laden now declared “dead,” the US government will have to find another excuse to continue the “War On Terrorism.” Will US forces now pull out of Afghanistan? Not on your life! Literally! US forces are permanently embedded in the Middle East. They are never coming home. In fact, the US 2nd Marine Division is on alert for an insertion into Libya, and US attacks against Syria are soon to follow.

All the PTB need now is another 9/11-style attack, and the architects that are drawing up plans for America becoming a Gestapo-style police state will be free to launch their evil machinations almost at will. And revenge for the death of bin Laden will be the reason provided to the American public that will convince them to accept this next round of attacks against the Bill of Rights and America’s liberties.

While Americans are rejoicing over the death of Osama bin Laden, they need to be infuriated at the death of America, because that is what this so-called “War on Terror” is accomplishing.

P.S. For the month of May, I am making three of my most popular video messages available at a special package price: “What Every Christian Should Know About The New World Order,” “There Is A Conspiracy,” and “The Biblical Standard Of Government.” During the month of May, these three video messages may be purchased for the price of two.That’s like buying two and getting one free. To take advantage of this special offer, go to:

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© Chuck Baldwin

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Joel Skousen’s EXCELLENT Analysis of ‘Obama Getting Osama,’ Ron Paul Running Despite the Media, and Obama’s Absolutely Fake Birth Certificate

Alex Jones: Bin Laden Death Another Gov’t Lie — Everything has been a lie– cooked-evidence about WMDs in Iraq, the Hollywood-scripted Jessica Lynch-incident, the shameful murder of Pat Tillman, the false-flag attacks on 9/11, , phony bin Laden videos faked by assets at SITE and the Intel Center, Osama’s CIA identity Tim Osman…

A. W. Tozer: “Our most pressing obligation is to do all in our power to obtain a revival that will result in a reformed, revitalized, purified church…”

“I hope some of you will agree with me that it is of far greater importance that we have better Christians than that we have more of them!

If we have any spiritual concerns, our most pressing obligation is to do all in our power to obtain a revival that will result in a reformed, revitalized, purified church… followers of Christ must become personally and vitally involved in the death and resurrection of Christ. And this requires repentance, prayer, watchfulness, self-denial, detachment from the world, humility, obedience and cross-carrying..”

– A.W. Tozer

John Wesley: “The real cause why the extraordinary fits of the Holy Ghost were no longer to be found in the Christian Church; because the Christians were turned Heathens again, and had only a dead form left.”

“It does not appear that these extraordinary gifts of the Holy Ghost were common in the Church for more than two or three centuries.

We seldom hear of them after that fatal period when the Emperor Constantine called himself a Christian… From this time they almost totally ceased… The Christians had no more of the Spirit of Christ than the other heathens….

This was the real cause why the extraordinary fits of the Holy Ghost were no longer to be found in the Christian Church; because the Christians were turned Heathens again, and had only a dead form left.”

– John Wesley

[REVERSE-CHRISTIAN AMERICA] Alex Jones: “It’s 2-minutes to midnight!” — “If they can get us to say ‘torture is good’ they can do anything.” | My opinion: The time is short because the ‘church’ is not the church!

REVERSE-CHRISTIAN AMERICA

“If they can get us to say ‘torture is good’
they can do anything.”

“It’s 2-minutes to midnight.”

– Alex Jones

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske
from The Alex Jones Show, 5/10/11

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My site: ToBeFree

Survey of Christian Men on the Subject of Women’s Clothing — Men responded: “This area is the greatest challenge in my life!” • “Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight.” • “Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing!” • Many more…

This questionnaire is directly related to my article: The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy — which includes Jesus’ Dress Code from my Let Us Be ONE prophecy.

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A comment from the article:

“I know many women say, ‘Well, that’s their problem, not mine!’ But while we men will answer for our lust, the ladies will answer for doing something that causes another to fall into sin.”

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This really is a big deal because heart-adultery keeps us from abiding in Christ. Lust is clearly a salvation issue! See also: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Jesus in Matthew 5:

27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Paul in Galatians 5 and 6:

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

6:7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

From: wayoflife.org

SURVEY OF CHRISTIAN MEN ON THE SUBJECT OF WOMEN’S CLOTHING

Updated August 6, 2008 (first published May 1, 2007) (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org …) –

This article is from the author’s book, “Dressing from the Lord,” which is available from Way of Life Literature. It can be ordered via the online catalog or by phone or e-mail (866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org).
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I sent out a notice to the Fundamental Baptist Information Service e-mail list and asked the following question of the men on the list who are members of fundamentalist and independent Baptist churches:

“In your opinion, which of the following items of female dress cause a real potential for lust?”

short skirts tight skirts slit skirts long skirts with slits to the knees sleeveless blouses low cut blouses and dresses tight blouses sheer blouses T-shirts V-neck dresses form-fitting jeans looser-fitting pants shorts one piece bathing suits …

My objective in this is to help girls and women in strong Bible-believing churches to understand how men think, not only men in the world or men in churches in general but men in the very churches that they attend.

I received a flood of response to this survey. In just one day I received well over 100 responses from men ages 24 to 74 and from many parts of the world, and that was on a weekend, and they are still coming in a week and a half later. This tells me that there is a readiness on the part of men to let women understand how they see this issue.

As you will see, the responses were very earnest. The men are discouraged that lust is such a powerful temptation in their lives, and they admitted that it is so. Some of the men literally begged me to tell the women that their manner of dress is important and that they need to understand how men look at things.

One man wrote: “Thank you for this request. This area is the greatest challenge in my life — in all honesty to a brother-in-the-Blood.” …

Most of the men observed that their response to a woman’s immodest dress depends on their spiritual condition and acknowledged that they have a responsibility before God not to lust after women regardless of how they are dressed.

For example, one man said: “Men are sight oriented creatures. The Lord has so equipped men to be sexually stimulated visually. … Men must govern their own hearts.”

Another man said: “My response to immodesty is often dependent on the environment, situation and my spiritual defense mechanism at a particular moment. If I have had a wonderful prayer time and clothed myself with all the spiritual armor, I am usually just about OK for anything. But more often then I would like it, I am not prepared or I am in a vulnerable situation; then I better run for my dear life (Gen. 39:12).” …

Many of the men also observed that this is a heart issue. The following statement by a pastor is typical of those made by many others:

“I believe the most important issue in female modesty is the issue of a chaste heart. If the woman desires to please her Saviour and honor her brother in Christ, there is seldom an issue with the clothing she wears. Mandating modest clothing without focusing on creating a chaste heart does little good. If the woman wears ‘modest’ clothing but is sensual in the way she walks or conducts herself, it will invariably cause a man to lust. I don’t need to see skin to cause me to lust. We men have pretty good imaginations.”

As to the individual items of dress, the men made the following points:

First of all, many of the men replied that all of the aforementioned female dress styles hold a real potential for lust. The following two statements were typical:

“I believe that ALL you had listed cause a ‘potential’ for lust.”

“I think that ALL of the listed items can cause lust. The bottom line for me is that anything that is form fitting, exposing, sheer, or clinging to a woman is immodest and can cause men to lust.” …

CONSIDER SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE MEN:

[These are just some of the quotes listed in the article. I normally do, but did not here use ellipses to indicate where statements were cut – editor]

“I do believe most women just do not know how men think. Period. I believe that there is a whole segment, group, class of women, who, if they really understood men, would change their dress code, because they do want to please God. Not all women, by far, but some would. They just need to understand it’s not just a list of do’s and don’ts set forth to force them in to ‘frumpiness,’ but a desire of godly men to gain their cooperation in helping them NOT lust, and to not be stumbling blocks, because they just want to please God.”

“MANY WOMEN, USUALLY YOUNGER, DRESS TO ATTRACT MEN AND DO NOT KNOW HOW DANGEROUS IT TRULY CAN BE FOR THEM. … I am a retired criminal investigator and worked criminal work for 17 1/2 years of my career. I think many homicides and serious physical assaults in addition to the obvious sex crimes are brought about by immodest dress and any born again Christian woman should never dress as such. A sexual predator can be turned on and be as dangerous as a hand grenade with the pin pulled by a women that has the one turn on factor for his mind (which is a variable with such criminals) which could be any of the listed ways of dressing.”

“I have to admit some of the dresses that are worn even though the dress hits the floor, and some of the blouses, even though it goes all the way to the neck, are very form fitting. I don’t think that women are out to stumble the men of the church, and nor am I saying that women need to walk around in sacks. There are sometimes when a lady is doing a special music or something that I have to look away that I may not stumble. In summation I think that all of the clothing you have listed that is form fitting and shows the curves of a woman is a real potential for lust.”

“I am a 24-year-old, unmarried man. I am very glad that you are asking us men about this issue, because it has been my experience that women truly do not understand the things that can run through a man’s head when he sees an immodestly-dressed woman. For a God-fearing man, this is a true concern. Fashionable clothing is not, as far as I can tell, designed by God-fearing Christians with any interest in modesty. Sex sells, and sexy clothing sells. … I have talked to women I know about the dress issue and told them that when they wear certain things, no matter how ‘covered up’ they may be, the fit of the clothing still makes a huge difference. Some women have told me that it is a man’s fault for having such a dirty mind or for letting it get to a point where lust becomes a problem, but the fact is men seem specifically prone to these types of thoughts. In North American culture we are inundated with sex. Everywhere we look there is a provocatively dressed (or practically undressed) woman selling something, and I think that women (and men) need to seriously consider the way they dress and how it affects members of the opposite sex. The last place I want to have to worry about lust is in my church. AS CHRISTIANS, IT IS NOT OUR PLACE TO SAY, ‘WELL, I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY MEN CAN’T LOOK AT ME DRESSED LIKE THIS AND NOT BATTLE WITH LUSTING THOUGHTS.’ INSTEAD, WE NEED TO TAKE IT FOR TRUTH WHEN A PERSON OF THE OPPOSITE SEX INFORMS US THAT OUR DRESS IS CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THEM, AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PROTECT OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM STUMBLING.”

“All men are aroused in one way or the other over revealed flesh. That is exactly why these clothes are made this way. I know some men are more easily aroused than others but normally any man is naturally inclined (by our sinful nature) to take notice of a woman wearing any garment that is revealing flesh. I THINK IT IS A SHAME TO COME TO CHURCH AFTER A WEEK IN THIS EVIL WORLD AND WANT TO ENJOY A SERVICE OF WORSHIP AND PRAISE TO THE LORD AND FELLOWSHIP AMONG SEPARATED PEOPLE AND SEE WOMEN DRESSING LIKE THE WORLD AND WHEN YOU CONFRONT THEM ABOUT THIS YOU ALWAYS GET THE SAME OLD LINE ‘WELL IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, YOU’VE GOT THE PROBLEM.’ Well, I always wonder why a woman who loves the Lord and wants to please the Lord would want to dress like the world and have men looking at her in a carnal way. When I see a woman in a store in town and she is dressed a certain conservative way, I always think, ‘I bet she is a Christian.’ IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF A WOMAN WHEN SHE SHUNS THE STYLES OF THIS WORLD AND WALKS IN SUCH A WAY THAT SHE WANTS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT SHE IS DIFFERENT.”

“I am 55 years old and I am BROKENHEARTED over the dress of a great number of females in the churches I visit. Oh, if I could only talk to moms and dads. I have never been married but lived in the world many years. I beg you, preacher, tell them that wearing ANYTHING that draws attention to a particular area, accentuating ANY form or flesh, is a great distraction for me. Please, stop wearing TIGHT clothing, exposing flesh, and wearing articles of clothing with writing on them. How many times have I had to turn my eyes away, or worry, did I look too long, did somebody notice me looking? I wish I could talk to a group of women and just tell them, because I know many don’t really realize what a distraction it is. [Surely] they don’t want the brethren to sin. I can’t believe how some of these young girls dress. Don’t they know the things we cherish, we must protect. I don’t care about peer pressure; clothing is an opportunity to share your faith when people see a difference. Remember that man and (wo)man looks at the outward appearance. We have to be separated and yes a ‘PECULIAR’ people. Men are tempted and aroused by the things they SEE. David was tempted when he SAW Bathsheba; Herod was tempted when he SAW Salome dance; when Samson ‘saw a women in Timnath,’ he wanted her because her looks ‘pleased’ him.”

“I travel a bit, and as I’m walking through a crowded airport looking around, I tend more to notice things like short skirts, skirts or dresses with slits that come to or above the knee, low-cut blouses or dresses, sheer blouses, or tight-fitting anything. Clothing that accentuates or draws attention to one part of the body seems more noticeable to me. I believe that clothing absolutely can draw attention to the woman’s body and that once attention is there, the potential, perhaps even likelihood, for lust isn’t far behind.”

“From what I see in the way many woman and teens dress, Christians included, many act like they are ‘for sale’ or are very ignorant of what they are doing to their image. That’s the way I see things on this issue.”

“The more skin I see, the more I have to force myself to look away from that individual. It brings back the past [before I was saved]. It seems like some women flaunt their bodies. What they are saying by their clothes, ‘Don’t look at my face, look at my body!’ … I am all for modesty and I wish all churches had a dress code. Not just in church but also out of church. Skin is a distraction! More skin; more sin.”

“I agree with you about the lack of understanding from most women about the male weakness in the area of lust. The average Christian woman today seems to think, ‘If you’ve got it, flaunt it.’ I actually had one woman who used to be in my church saying that. … God’s final act of creation was His most beautiful. A normal man would agree with this. This sets us apart from the animal kingdom. In animals the male is the most attractive. The female is often rather dowdy. Humans are reversed. … A godly woman can dress attractively and properly by following a few simple thoughts. Do the clothes she is wearing draw a man’s eyes to her face or to her other body parts? Is the clothing she is wearing obviously feminine and modest and not made for men?”

“All of those items of female dress cause a real potential for lust. WHY SHOULD A MAN HAVE TO BATTLE WITH LUST DURING A CHURCH SERVICE WHEN IT IS HARD ENOUGH JUST TO WALK IN A WORLD FULL OF SENSUALITY? IF WOMEN ONLY KNEW THE SNARE OF TEMPTATION THAT IS SET BEFORE OUR EYES. Even if it is a fraction of a second and a man turns his head away, the battle can still rage in the mind just from a mere glimpse. I honestly believe that many of them know exactly what they are doing. Why else would they dress like the rebellious world?”

“It seems the last few years as the churches have grown more liberal and the women show more skin, I HAVE TO FIGHT HARDER TO KEEP MY MIND STRAIGHT. I am happily married. I do not and will not stray. … I wish women could just take the Bible for what it says. Yes, the Lord made us men this way. … I think the most beautiful thing God created on this earth is a woman, and Satan knows it to. That is just the way I feel.”

“Almost all of the styles you listed serve to in some way accentuate, reveal, or tantalize the senses of men. Men are very liable to visual temptation. Even Job realized that (Job 31:1). The Psalmist did, too (Psa. 101:3). The ladies need to know that there is a need to have a heart of modesty that will give them the desire to strengthen and honor their brothers in Christ. If that happens, modesty will be a matter of heart and dress, and not simply a legalistic issue.”

“In my personal opinion, I think the styles that expose the bosom or the tight form of the bosom present the majority of the problem because it is more accepted to show that area in our society as opposed to the upper thigh or lower buttocks.”

“My wife was taught as a little girl that all attention should be drawn to her face, and that rule has been a great guideline.”

“I am certainly not proud to have to say that all of the above items of clothing on women cause a real potential for lust, but for me it is the case. OF ALL OF MY CLOSE BROTHERS IN THE LORD WHOM I HAVE TALKED WITH ON THIS SUBJECT OVER TIME, ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THEY STRUGGLE WITH LUST; and it is so few women, at least where I am, that dress modestly or even have a single clue that there is a Biblical instruction for them to do so. I am so thankful for my Pastor’s wife (they are new here and have planted a new Church in my city) and her decision to dress modestly.”
“Maybe I just have a problem with lust, but I know my own heart. There is no godly, good reason that I should ever see from ‘the neck to the knees’ of any woman other than my wife.”

“IT IS AMAZING TO ME THAT HUSBANDS, FATHERS, ETC., WOULD ALLOW THEIR WOMEN OUT IN PUBLIC WEARING SOME OF THE THINGS WOMEN WEAR. Have they no idea the thoughts of other men? Shame on them.”

“If such things draw the attention of normal, godly, Christian men, by definition they are immodest, no matter what the women think.”

“I don’t know how women can ‘not’ know the impact their dress has on men. In fact I believe they do (more than they say or let on). One thing I see in my church is tight clothing. Oh, it may very well be covering but it is revealing the shape in a woman. This can be even more tantalizing to a man. I once was at a conference and the preacher asked a very strong Christian couple (wife modestly dressed) who do you dress for (question to the wife) and she said her husband. The preacher and the congregation gave their amens. I thought about that answer and it was an answer I would have wanted my wife to give until to a few years before. Now she knows I would want her to dress for the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. I have the potential to be carnal, and in the flesh and to want to see her in less modest apparel. That would never be the case with our Lord. Thus I told her to dress for Jesus Christ.”

“Thank you for addressing this serious problem. I agree that most Christian women do not seem to understand how that the way they dress affects men. Unfortunately, some do understand and they enjoy dressing in a way that attracts the attention of men. … We are living in the last part of the last days. Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing. ONE SIGN OF DEMON ACTIVITY IS NUDITY AND LEWD DRESS. MEN RESPOND BY SIGHT. Sight arouses their sexual drive. Anything that exposes highlights or outlines the torso and thigh is lustful dress. The Word of God is clear that a man who lusts after a woman is guilty of adultery along with her. I told my people last Sunday that if the women dress inappropriately and go to town, causing four men to look and lust, they will be held accountable for participating in committing adultery.” [Demons absolutely do empower lust: Demons absolutely do empower lust, and this is how it works – editor]

“As a man, a Christian, and a pastor, I believe modesty is perhaps the most important issue in dress, whether among the church or otherwise, because, I’M TELLING YOU, MEN NOTICE, MEN LOOK, AND MEN LUST, EVEN THE GOOD ONES. I know many women say, ‘Well, that’s their problem, not mine!’ But while we men will answer for our lust, the ladies will answer for doing something that causes another to fall into sin. Ladies, understand, your dress DOES effect us, and as such, you should prayerful consider what you wear. Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight–so when we see a lady, pretty, or sometimes not, we are stimulated by the sight of their flesh. It’s just the way we are.”

Entire Article Here

Related:

The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

[Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because…

What does God say? Women, children and men exposing themselves to TSAs in NAKED BODY SCANNERS!

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Separation from the World — What the Early Christians Believed About Separation from the World. D. Bercot. The Bible exhorts us: “Adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” So…

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Modest Dress and Cosmetics — How literally did the early Christians take Peter’s exortation?

Wes Hall: It’s Not Just Porn! “You’re asking for power and there are areas of hidden compromise in your life. … I’m not talking about the R-rated movies. I’m talking about the PG-13s … certain sitcoms, TV shows where your spirit is being defiled.”

A Nation ‘Bewitched’: Farrah Fawcett — “When the show [Charlie’s Angels] got to be No. 3, I figured it was our acting. When it got to be No. 1, I decided it could only be because none of us wears a bra”

1942 Minnesota: Bathing beaches prior to the low-cut top epidemic

Jesus’ Dress Code

All of my Lust Freedom! posts

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Francis Chan Freedom Quotes: Lukewarm People — "Lukewarm people call 'radical' what Jesus expected of ALL His followers." — "Lukewarm people feel secure because they attend church, made a profession of faith at age twelve, were baptized, come from a Christian family, vote Republican…" — More…

These are quotes by Francis Chan, probably all taken from chapter 4 of Crazy Love. I’m listening to the wonderful audio version, read by Francis, himself!
I thought Francis’ lukewarm list to be so exceptional that I’d share some of his points with you even if I had to transcribe them myself. Thankfully, I don’t have to.
This is my favorite:

Lukewarm people are moved by stories about people who do radical things for Christ, yet they do not act. They assume such action is for “extreme” Christians, not average ones. Lukewarm people call “radical” what Jesus expected of all His followers.

We don’t want to be among those whom our perfectly holy Father whom we can TOTALLY trust spits out of His mouth having squandered away our inheritance (Rev. 3:14-22). We want to safely and JOYFULLY rest in Him!
Life in the Son!

jeff

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaidsEzynWw]Ch 4 – Crazy Love by Francis Chan

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Excerpts from: markartrip.wordpress.com, emphasis mine

LUKEWARM PEOPLE-FRANCIS CHAN

3. Lukewarm people tend to choose what is popular over what is right when they are in conflict. They desire to fit in both at church and outside of church; they care more about what people think of their actions (like church attendance and giving) than what God thinks of their hearts and lives (Luke 6:26; Rev. 3:1; Matthew 23:5-7).

4.  Lukewarm people don’t really want to be saved from their sin; they want only to be saved from the penalty of their sin. They don’t genuinely hate sin and aren’t truly sorry for it; they’re merely sorry because God is going to punish them. Lukewarm people don’t really believe that this new life Jesus offers is better than the old sinful one (John 10:10; Romans 6:1-2).

5.  Lukewarm people are moved by stories about people who do radical things for Christ, yet they do not act. They assume such action is for “extreme” Christians, not average ones. Lukewarm people call “radical” what Jesus expected of all His followers (James 1:22; James 4:17; Matthew 21:28-31).

8.  Lukewarm people say they love Jesus, and He is, indeed, a part of their lives. But only a part. They give Him a section of their time, their money, and thoughts, but He isn’t allowed to control their lives (Luke 9:57-62).

9.  Lukewarm people love God, but they do not love Him with all their heart, soul, and strength. They would be quick to assure you that they try to love God that much, but that sort of total devotion isn’t really possible for the average person; it’s only for pastors and missionaries and radicals (Matthew 22:37-38).

10.  Lukewarm people love others but do not seek to love others as much as they love themselves. Their love of others is typically focused on those who love them in return, like family, friends, and other people they know and connect with. There is little love left over for those who cannot love them back, much less for those who intentionally slight them, whose kids are better athletes than theirs, or with whom conversations are awkward or uncomfortable. Their love is highly conditional and very selective, and generally comes with strings attached (Matthew 5:43-47; Luke 14:12-14).

15.  Lukewarm people are continually concerned with playing it safe; they are slaves to the god of control. This focus on safe living keeps them from sacrificing and risking for God (1 Timothy 6:17-18; Matthew 10:28).

16.  Lukewarm people feel secure because they attend church, made a profession of faith at age twelve, were baptized, come from a Christian family, vote Republican, or live in America. Just as the prophets in the Old Testament warned Israel that they were not safe just because they lived in the land of Israel, so we are not safe just because we wear the label Christian or because some people persist in calling us a “Christian nation” (Matthew 7:21; Amos 6:1)

Entire Article Here
Related:
Francis Chan Freedom Quotes!
Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God at Amazon [paperback, Kindle, and audio editions]
Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

[video] Francis Chan: The Awe Factor Of God

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ya12I036lg]The Awe Factor Of God – Francis Chan

Uploaded by on Apr 28, 2008

I was truly amazed when I saw this video, seriously it shows how God’s creation is just indescribable, just amazing, just AWESOME!

Speechless? Amazed? Humbled?
When I first saw those images, I had to worship. I didn’t want to speak to or share it with anyone. I just wanted to sit quietly and admire the Creator

Reality Check

I just expanded the title of this important post on deception and the times we are in:

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it was PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

So we really shouldn’t be surprised when we discover that so much of what we hear in the ‘church’ and in the media isn’t true at all.
And much of this involves James-3 cursing, which hardly anyone is talking about, but I have an entire category on this key factor.
Deception this effective and this universal cannot happen without evil spirits affecting people directly. Most people (including ‘Christians’) are lead by familiar spirits that drive them to believe and do all kinds of stuff.
Let’s be free so ONE can happen!
We may not have much time to even speak freely over the web. The U.S. government is waging psy ops on us. Much of what we’re being told isn’t even true [See what I’ve been reporting on at ToBeFree], but most people (and most ‘Christians’) are buying it.
We must be vigilant to live holy, so we only hear one voice — the voice of the HOLY Spirit who wants to lead us into all truth so we can be ONE!
…then the world will know.
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Are you liking the Francis Chan posts?

Jeff : )

[video] Francis Chan: "Crazy Love" (chapters 2-4 illustrations)

On his scooter[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRP4jZ6KMFI]Crazy Love – Chapter 2

Uploaded by on Apr 25, 2010

Chapter 2 of Crazy Love for LifeGroup

At the market[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12MKToWNb8Q]Crazy Love – Chapter 3

In Cornerstone[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdrizzZIvUA]Crazy Love – Chapter 4

“What we call sanctification
they [Iraqi Christians] call prerequisite.”

Gandhi?: “I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

“I like your Christ;
I do not like your Christians.

Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

– Mahatma Gandhi

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Since posting, I have found that some dispute that Gandhi said this. I found the following:

I can’t find any source for him stating the quote as such. I did find a book, The Knights Templar & the Protestant Reformation, which states that when Stanley Jones, a missionary met with Ghandi he asked him:

Mr. Gandhi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?

Gandhi replied:

Oh, I don’t reject Christ. I love Christ. It’s just that so many of you Christians are so unlike Christ.

The book seems to have a reference, although I can’t check what it is as the references page is not on Google Books.

The quote seems to be from the book Mr. Gandhi, the man by Millie Graham Polak although the book is not viewable online.

Searching the book for the first part of the passage quoted in the knights templar book, “Is Mr. Gandhi a Christian?” returns a hit, although searching for “stanley jones” or “reject christ” does not.

In The Christ of the Indian Road by E. Stanley Jones, Stanley Jones asked Gandhi how to naturalize Christianity into India. Gandhi replied in part:

I would suggest first of all that all of you Christians, missionaries and all begin to live more like Jesus Christ.

This could be in part where the quote came from, if it was never said directly by Gandhi.

Given the amount of consistent references to the quote being said in reply to a question from Stanley Jones, I think it is likely something very similar to the oft quoted passage was said. I can’t find anything online that shows this for certain and don’t have access to the books where the quote may appear to check, so it’s hard to say for sure.

Dave A. responds in a comment to this post (below):

The information I have so far attributes the proximate statement in Stanley’s book to Bara Dada and not to Gandhi. I have a first edition copy of “Mr. Gandhi the Man” by Polak (1931) and I assure you that the Gandhi quote is NOT in that book. He speaks to his friend about his attraction to Christianity and the possibility of becoming Christian himself. His reasons for not doing so, he explains, have to do with his sense that he has found, in his “native” Hindu religion, all of the essential values that Christianity promotes. He is in a sense a universalist, believing that a path to God can be found in every major religion. There are no disparaging remarks about Christians in the book. Gandhi’s history is one of reconciliation and marshalling people from many faith communities to promote freedom and justice. That work began in earnest in South Africa, where he brought Christians together with other adherents for his social justice work.

Related:
Gandhi Used His Position To Sexually Exploit Young Women
As a teacher of nonviolence, Gandhi advocated the right to bear arms; use of ‘violence’ to defend innocents against bullying, oppression
Gandhi on Forgiving: “Nobody can hurt me without my permission”

The Golden Mean/Ratio: The Divine Proportion

[googlevideo=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7179950432887640376#]Fibonacci and the Golden Mean

This piece uses illustrations ranging from contemporary studies in biology to ancient Greek architecture to describe how, in 1202 A.D., the Italian mathematician Fibonacci uncovered a mathematical link between science and art.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOhVzvcFerk]Golden Mean

Uploaded by on Sep 22, 2008

A pictorial illustration of the Golden Mean and the Fibonacci sequence through use of artistic imaging. Natural beauty of botanical subjects used to demonstrate the repeated use of the Golden Mean in earths ecosystems. Created by http://geosage.net

[video] 2 Tests: Can you see the difference between what Francis Chan taught vs what he now teaches about salvation? | Can you see the 3D horse at 15:50?

More of Francis’ current teaching on salvation can be seen in the links at the end of this post.

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Francis Chan
05/02/10

Conditional Security

[Teaching the true-freedom truth
just before leaving Cornerstone
with clean hands!

Notice how much happier
he now really is!]

See the 3D horse at 15:50[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUoPsNfiu8E]Salvation by Francis Chan

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Compare above message to
what Francis spoke
2.5 years earlier

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Francis Chan
11/04/07

Unconditional Security

[This is actually diabolical —
the greatest deception,
leading so many astray and ruining America.

This is probably some of what Francis was trying to undo
in the message above —
so he could be clean
and so he could see many of them in heaven.]

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6HJGzA7dNM]Francis Chan – GRACE GRACE GRACE

Related:
Francis Chan’s ‘Last Sermon’ — There will be no cowards in heaven
Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”
Francis Chan Freedom Quotes!
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

Dan Corner: What's wrong with today's gospel — Eternal security is false, no matter how popular! Actual audio quotes from big name teachers

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sbZYcRE-Fs]What’s wrong with today’s gospel Pt 1 (Eternal Security is false) No once saved always saved

Uploaded by on Mar 28, 2008

http://www.dancorner.com

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/eternal-security.htm
Dan Corner exposes and refutes the false gospel and counterfeit grace of eternal security. Hear actual audio quotes from big name teachers and a sound biblical refutation of the devil’s lie of once saved always saved aka eternal security
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ydu-yPPT0w]
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyZBZrLdX4]
Related:
[Video] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security
 
Dan Corner’s 801-page book: “The Believer’s Conditional Security”
 
How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!
 
[Video] Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved
 
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? (what the Bible really says about who goes to heaven)
 
(video) Dan Corner: True Grace Vs False Grace — Charles Stanley’s security in sin: “You cannot out-sin the grace of God” Vs Jesus: “He who endures to the end will be saved”
 
(video) Dan Corner: Prodigal Son — “My son was dead, and is alive again! He was lost, and is found!”
 
(cartoon) The Prodigal Son
 
(audio) Dan Corner: “If you’re lusting in your heart, you are an adulterer, and you won’t inherit the kingdom”
 
John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake for Having Doctrinal Differences — His Ashes Cry Out!
 
(audio) Dan Corner: The parable of the sower — “Bringing forth fruit is a salvation issue”
 
(video) The Grace Changers: Calvinist Mark Driscoll Exposed — “Mark Driscoll’s popularity is proof that we are in a deep dark church apostacy now!”
 
What about the thief on the cross? He wasn’t required to do works | ‘Sweaty ministry’ VS “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me…”
 
Father of Calvinism, Augustine’s Prayer To Mary For His Salvation