(video) Kris Millegan: Fleshing Out Skull & Bones — What happens when Calvinism is mixed with ritual magic and the members become Presidents George Bush I & II?

This is mostly about what has really happened to our country through the George Bush family and other Skull and Bonesmen. Very important to be able to understand what is going on.

At minute-15: “Both Harvard and Yale were set up as schools for Calvinist clerics” and their reverse-Christian doctrines, which still affect US today.

I had a professor at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School who openly taught that we don’t really have free will. We just think we do, so God does really decide who goes to heaven and hell.

When I was at Trinity (never did finish), all of the theology professors were Calvinists except one.

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Fleshing Out Skull & Bones

Fleshing Out Skull and Bones

An expose of Yale’s super secretive and elite Order of Skull & Bones.

This chronicle of espionage, drug smuggling, and elitism in Yale University’s Skull & Bones society offers rare glimpses into this secret world with previously unpublished documents, photographs, and articles that delve into issues such as racism, financial ties to the Nazi party, and illegal corporate dealings. Contributors include Antony Sutton, author of America’s Secret Establishment; Dr. Ralph Bunch, professor emeritus of political science at Portland State University; Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin, authors and historians; and Howard Altman, editor of the Philadelphia City Paper.

http://www.infowarsshop.com/Fleshing-Out-Skull-and-Bones_p_562.html
Your Price: $24.95

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2qP6YZ62E]Fleshing Out Skull & Bones with Author Kris Millegan

Published on Jul 28, 2012 by 

An expose of Yale’s super secretive and elite Order of Skull & Bones.

This chronicle of espionage, drug smuggling, and elitism in Yale University’s Skull & Bones society offers rare glimpses into this secret world with previously unpublished documents, photographs, and articles that delve into issues such as racism, financial ties to the Nazi party, and illegal corporate dealings. Contributors include Antony Sutton, author of America’s Secret Establishment; Dr. Ralph Bunch, professor emeritus of political science at Portland State University; Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin, authors and historians; and Howard Altman, editor of the Philadelphia City Paper.
Fleshing Out Skull & Bones
http://www.infowarsshop.com/Fleshing-Out-Skull-and-Bones_p_562.html
Your Price: $24.95

Related:

Charlotte Iserbyt: Skull & Bones, The Order at Yale Revealed | More on the Secret History of Western Education & Psychology!

Fritz Springmeier in Infowars Studio: How the ‘Elite’ are using mind-control to destroy America, which includes the control of churches and seminaries — “A large share of these denominations were created by Freemasons … And Freemasons are running Christian higher education.”

George W. Bush Appointed at Least 11, Fellow, Skull & Bones Members to Government Positions

[Audio] Real-history book publisher, Dad-was-CIA Kris Millegan: How book publishers and the media suppress truth

All of my George Bush Family category posts at ToBeFree (almost totally 150 now; latest appear first; 10 posts per page)

The Protestant Reformers Were Frauds: An Anabaptist speaks out

John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake — His Ashes Cry Out!

John Calvin was a Persecutor

My Ph.D.-genius-friend, John Calvin expert: “In all my reading of Calvin, I don’t recall him ever apologizing for a mistake or admitting an error.” | According to Paul, can John Calvin be in heaven?

The Pastors-only Experiment: Pastors have held the ball too tightly and have dropped it, trying to lead the church without the prophets. Ephesians 4:11-16 is still the standard, and all five ministries are needed to achieve “the perfecting of the saints” and “the unity of the faith”

My Facebook page: facebook.com/ONEcanhappen. All are welcome. 

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The question posed on Facebook an hour ago:

Did you know that the exact word “pastor” is only used 1 time in the entire New Testament of the authorized King James Bible?

My response:

And the Ephesians 4:11-16 “unity of the faith” standard is hardly mentioned anymore, since this “perfecting of the saints” goal can’t be achieved by apostles, evangelists, pastors and teachers without the prophets. And this remains God’s standard, whether pastors still mention it or not.

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One of the passages in my ONEcanhappen header is Ephesians 4:11-16:

He gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, shepherds and teachersfor the perfecting of the saints, to the work of serving, to the building up of the body of Christ; until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we may no longer be children, tossed back and forth and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in craftiness, after the wiles of error; but speaking truth in love, we may grow up in all things into him, who is the head, Christ; from whom all the body, being fitted and knit together through that which every joint supplies, according to the working in measure of each individual part, makes the body increase to the building up of itself in love.

The fear of the Lord keeps us in the parameter where love can happen!!!

The fear of the Lord “keeps us in the parameter where love can happen!!!”

But now, most pastors say we no longer have to fear the Lord, disregarding what Jesus and Paul clearly said.

With the beginning of wisdom having been removed, we find ourselves in this huge mess — “a Godless generation.”

It is wise to fear the Lord, to stay within His parameters, His guardrails that are meant for our protection from the evil one — who will sell us a lie and call it good. He is deceiving many.

Beauty can reign when we grow in wisdom, because we fear the Lord and stay within his safe parameters — holiness — not giving the Devil a place.

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David Kretzmann: Defending Empire — The miserable strategical failure of killing other human beings in far off lands in supposed efforts to promote peace. I am convinced that revival won’t happen until we have a heart…

When we actually do love our neighbors as ourselves, then God will fill us with His presence — and then the world will know (John 17).

“God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

Hubris: means extreme pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one’s own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.

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Let us not forget those who have been unjustly killed. Let us not forget, lest we neglect the preciousness of human life.

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From: davidkretzmann.com

Defending Empire
By David Kretzmann on October 31st, 2011

I am continuously amazed how quickly people attempt to defend politicians, regardless of the hypocrisy and sheer lunacy displayed by political figures. What have these politicians done to earn your trust? What makes them worth defending? We’re led to believe that without these cherished political behemoths starting new wars, torturing people and ignoring the rule of law, chaos would erupt in the streets.

People within an empire are blind to the empire itself. U.S. citizens have been trained to trust and protect their leaders, even when these leaders are escalating the slaughter of innocent human beings abroad. Is the U.S. different from previous tyrannical empires? Some claim the U.S. is defending freedom and democracy by preemptively invading tens of countries around the world. How many wars must be fought before we acknowledge the miserable strategical failure of killing other human beings in far off lands in supposed efforts to promote peace?

I am not a stubborn pacifist. But I am not a blind follower either, which is what the majority of people in the U.S. appear to be today. People blindly followed and supported George W. Bush. After eight years of horrendous atrocities abroad, torturing human beings, and Bush ignoring his own promises to stop nation building, people decided they wanted a change. Barack Obama promised change, and he even campaigned that he was “Change we can believe in.” Give people a catchy slogan and a decent speech and they’ll believe and defend just about anything.

Three years into Obama’s presidency, you can count on one hand the number of the policies Obama has ended from the Bush era. Obama has started new wars, continued torturing untried human beings, and today his administration defends the very policies he strongly criticized just four years ago. Some say Obama just needs more time. “You can’t change everything in a day, Obama’s doing the best he can!”

How long must Obama continue and expand Bush’s abominable policies before I can legitimately criticize his policies? Three years? Five years? Eight years?

No one in government has done a thing to earn my trust. Conservatives” who preach against government intervention in our domestic economy praise the very same government when it sanctions, invades, and militarily occupies foreign countries. “Liberals” who criticize a Republican president for war crimes and the destruction of the Constitution turn a blind eye when a Democrat does the exact same things, instead giving him a pat on the back while writing a check for his reelection.

Think outside the box. Think like a human being. Would you retaliate against a foreign government that attempted to rig your country’s elections, prevented economic trade, and opened permanent military bases on your own soil? Answer that question honestly, and you will understand why “insurgents” and “terrorists” in numerous countries around the world are retaliating against the U.S. They do not do it for religious purposes, they don’t do it because we’re “free” (which is a laughable accusation in and of itself), they do it because they’ve had enough of their friends, family, and countrymen killed by an intruding foreign army. …

I am not going to support any politician who thinks for a second that the U.S. can do whatever it wants around the world without inciting retaliation against those actions. It is the height of arrogance to think the U.S. can only do good, only be welcomed in these countries, and never do anything evil that might warrant a justified retaliation. Put yourself in the shoes of someone in the Middle East, or you will never understand.

Let us not forget those who have been unjustly killed. Let us not forget, lest we neglect the preciousness of human life. Let us not forget, lest we become ignorant of liberty.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOgWuGYGeo]The Truth About War – Who Are The Real Terrorists?

Uploaded by  on Jul 29, 2011

Since being in Iraq and Afghanistan over 1 million civilians have been killed and thousands of soldiers have lost their lives to empire, to the bankers and elite who make a profit from human suffering, they are the real terrorists..This video was dedicated to those who have lost their lives to these criminals….

Entire Article Here

[video] Col. Craig Roberts covers many subjects, including his near death experience

Very interesting overview of much of what is happening in America. I would normally post this at ToBeFree, but Col. Roberts talks about his NDE, where he saw how horrible it would be to be eternally condemned to Hell — no way out.

I don’t believe Roberts gets the angel/demon thing right, though. Unless we’re living 100% free from demons by living in perfect love, forgiving all 100% from our hearts, demons (plural) will affect us. Many people have many voices, not just one (Roberts talks about one) competing with the Holy Spirit’s voice, that Col. Roberts says is the angel’s, whom in my opinion doesn’t speak to us much, if at all.

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Talks about his NDE at the 34-minute mark[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc1VPU1n8kA]Col. Craig Roberts Breaks Down Operation Blackstar

Published on Jul 12, 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel

Alex also talks with Col. Craig Roberts, a Vietnam veteran, former police officer with the Tulsa Police Department, and author of many books, including: The Medusa File, Crosshairs on the Kill Zone, and Doorway to Hell: Disaster in Somalia. Col. Roberts talks with Alex about Operation Blackstar.
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[real-worship! music video] Phillips, Craig & Dean: Revelation Song (longer, sweeter version)

Wonderful!

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Revelation Song

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Phillips, Craig, Dean. Video with lyrics.

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5xeo5PkkE8]Revelation Song

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Dave Macpherson, author of “The Rapture Plot”: Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty — John Darby, Edward Irving, Cyrus Scofield, Tim Lahaye, John Walvoord, Jerry Falwell, Chuck Missler, Hal Lindsey, Jack van Impe, Grant Jeffrey …

From: poweredbychrist.com

PRETRIB RAPTURE DISHONESTY

by 

DAVE MACPHERSON

When I began my research in 1970 into the exact beginnings of the pretribulation rapture belief still held by many evangelicals, I assumed that the rapture debate involved only “godly scholars with honest differences.” The paper you are now reading reveals why I gave up that assumption many years ago. With this introduction-of-sorts in mind, let’s take a long look at the pervasive dishonesty throughout the history of the 179-year-old pretrib rapture theory:

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FINALLY: Don’t take my word for any of the above. Read my 300-page book “The Rapture  Plot” which has a jillion more documented details on the long-hidden but now-revealed history of the dishonest, 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised-until-the-real-bad-stuff-happens pretribulation rapture fad. If this book of mine doesn’t “move” you, I will personally refund what you paid for it.

Entire Article Here

Related:

Dumitru Duduman: The Russian Invasion of America — “It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.’ Then there will be an internal revolution in America…. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans…” — The rapture will occur AFTER America is destroyed, as God destroys the enemies of Israel!

Why There is No Pre-Trib or Mid-Trib Rapture: Jesus will destroy the Lawless One at the same time he is gathering the saints to meet him in the air

12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture

Dumitru Duduman: The Russian Invasion of America — “It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.’ Then there will be an internal revolution in America…. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans…” — The rapture will occur AFTER America is destroyed, as God destroys the enemies of Israel!

The Rapture: History and Influence in America — “Christians trade the message of Revelation as a call of discipleship in a fallen world for escapism.”

Corrie Ten Boom: Prepared for the Coming Tribulation

Warmongers Unite: Rapture Ready – The Christians United for Israel Tour with ‘Pastor’ John Hagee

John Hagee – Enforce UN Thought Crimes Law

Preemptive-Striker John Hagee Endorses 100-Years-in-Iraq John McCain

John Hagee: “Jesus Did Not Come To Earth To Be the Messiah”

Pastor Baldwin: Ron Paul’s Israel Problem [Evangelicals Led Astray?]

John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran

John Hagee: Unrepentant Heretic? — Today, churchgoers stand hand in hand with a Jewish people who would crucify Christ again if He walked their streets.

Alex Jones: The pre-trib rapture doctrine is a big, sickening, psyop, bringing US into tyranny! “Most of you are a bunch of torture loving, war loving people…” — Truthful commentary by a non-pastor

Mike Bickle’s (IHOP) prophetic dream: “What is coming is so much more intense than we imagine.” “We must experience manifestation of His majesty that makes us tremble and His kindness that moves us to repentance and servanthood.” “We will receive angelic assistance and great power…”

After America Went Down Music: Our Demise Theme [Barber: “Adagio for Strings”] / The Demons Rejoice Dance Mix [Dj Tiesto] ||| WWWIII ||| “Once saved always saved” + pre-tribulation rapture + old covenant law tithing + “Support Bush no matter what”/dis the peacemakers and Ron Paul = Doomsday! ||| Where were the Bonhoeffers and therefore the disciples of Christ?!!

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it was PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[video] Shane Warren on “It’s Supernatural”: Judgment is coming to America, while a spiritual revival will also take place. “We’re running out of time!”

This seems right on. “We’re running out of time.” Judgment is coming to America, while a spiritual revival will also take place.

Again, here, I’m hearing that people should ‘get right with God,’ but I’m still not hearing leaders say to get right with each other — which was the key ingredient at the Asbury and Welsh Revivals, the Welsh affected the entire nation for years!:

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

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Watch Here:

http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_&page=NewsArticle&id=11623

Guest: Shane Warren
July 9-15, 2012

We are seeing Bible prophecy fulfilled everyday on TV newscasts and in our newspapers! Wars & rumors of wars. The shaking of the global economy. The threat of Muslim extremism. Find the outpouring of God’s blessing in your life as America comes under judgment. Don’t be SURPRISED this comes before the Rapture [the rapture won’t happen until the end – editor]. Learn how to thrive even in trying times!

Gary Gray: Follow Me The Sinning Apostle Of Christ? Paul Was Not A Sinner!

From Gary Gray’s Facebook note:

(Acts 24:16 [AKJV]) And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offense toward God, and toward men.

“If we embrace the lie that “even Paul sinned all his life”, then we will justify our own continuance in undefeated sin. If we deny that freedom from sin is possible by embracing the lie that Paul sinned all his life and never walked in complete sanctification then how can we believe God will bring us into complete sanctification?

Entire Article Here 

Related:

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “Let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned.”

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Leonard Ravenhill: Romans 7 vs 8 — Life before the Son vs Life in the Son — “Romans 7 is a funeral march, Romans 8 is a wedding march … it’s a Spirit dominated life in chapter 8.”

Robert Shank: Erroneous “2 natures of the believer” doctrine — Romans 7 is before Paul’s ‘life in the Son’

THE PATRISTIC INTERPRETATION of ROMANS 7:14-25 — The early church did not understand Rom 7:14-25 to teach the necessity of sin in believers

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

The Sheep Stealers Rob the Sheep—Hypocrites Cannot Lead

Leadership: How it is Supposed to Be

Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent

Failed Churches — Hate that Destroys the Yoke of Unity

Many Curse Others From Their Hurts Deep Within

Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable”

‘Christian’ Leaders James-3 Cursing People Example: Jesse

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

Francis Frangipane: Beware, It is Easy to Fake Christianity — “The moment we stop obeying God we start faking . . . .” “If our Christianity does not work in this life where we can test it, it is foolhardy to hope it will successfully transport us into eternity . . . if we fail the test, we suffer eternal separation from God.” “Let us re-examine what we have been taught.”

How CLEAN do our Hearts have to be from the Hebrews-12 root of bitterness that defiles many? Where is the place of SAFETY — RESTING, KNOWING for SURE we’re going to heaven? Selah …

Are Today’s Pastors Part Sociopath? — “Sociopaths never accept the slightest responsibility for anything that goes wrong, even though they’re responsible for almost everything that goes wrong. You’ll never hear a sincere apology from them.”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

[ audio ] Henry Gruver’s Three Visions: Russian (and Chinese) Invasion of America — “When Russia opens her gates and lets the masses go, the free world will occupy themselves with transporting, housing and caring for the masses, and will begin to let their weapons down, and will cry ‘peace and safety,’ and that’s when it will happen.”

Excerpts from: http://americaslastdays.blogspot.com/p/henry-gruver.html, which also has descriptive charts, so I recommend going over there!

I cleaned up some spelling and punctuation errors.

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Henry Gruver Russian Invasion of America

Henry Gruver had a vision around 1986 of the invasion of America and  its total destruction by the hands of the Russians and the Chinese. He saw Russia moving by sea and air from the north to destroy America by nerve gas and nuclear weapons. The Russians will steal materials and will spoil the United States after the destruction. The death toll of Americans will reach over 120 million people or 60 percent of the population.

Henry Gruver 1st vision 

In Astoria Washington  He saw a Chinese invasion force by sea invading the land.

When the Chinese landed in America any civilians they saw were instantly shot and killed.

The United States responded with World War 2 vintage planes against the Chinese invasion force.

This represented the weakness of America in its national defenses.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfJOaRTRu9U]Henry Gruver 1st vision and the Invasion of China in America

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Henry Gruver 2nd vision

… After He Saw the nerve gas he was taken to the heavens and he saw Trafalgar square in London.

In this square he saw a Russian general being mocked by the European population. The Russian general then commanded Russian troops, each protected with bio warfare suits, to kill everyone. …

In The first half of the vision there may be a clue to the time frame of the Russian invasion of America.

In the vision, Prince Charles gave the invasion announcement to America at the time of the attacks.

Now if you assume that it may be Prince Charles himself to make the announcement, the attack will have to happen within 20-30 years [or even sooner – editor] because as of 2012 he is 63 years old.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzALZQWkimc]Henry Gruver 2nd vision and the Russian Invasion of London nerve gas

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Henry Gruver 3rd vision

Henry Gruver was looking at the island of Anglesey, when he was taken up into the heavens.

He was looking down on the earth like a map and he saw a massive military movement from Russia coming down from the Icelandic waters from the north. The Russian army came down the Atlantic ocean to attack America by sea.

Russian submarines parked along the coastlines of America and nuclear warheads attacked and completely destroyed New York City and other cites in the nation.

The major destruction started in the cities of New York; Seattle, Washington; Miami, Florida; San Diego; and Los Angeles, California [also San Francisco – editor]. …

“When Russia opens her gates and lets the masses go, the free world will occupy themselves with transporting, housing and caring for the masses, and will begin to let their weapons down, and will cry ‘peace and safety,’ and that’s when it will happen.”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_K_DLjs4U]Henry Gruver 3rd vision and the Russian Invasion of America dec 1986

Published on Jun 25, 2012 by carlos85333

http://americaslastdays.blogspot.com

Related:

Dumitru Duduman: The Russian Invasion of America — “It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.’ Then there will be an internal revolution in America…. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans…” — The rapture will occur AFTER America is destroyed, as God destroys the enemies of Israel!

Dumitru Duduman: Wake Up America

Skousen: U.S. Intentionally Vulnerable to Nuclear Attack from China/Russia

[2-hour audio] Henry Gruver with Steve Quayle: Visions of War – Visions of Heaven

[mp3 audio] Henry Gruver’s Vision of America being invaded by Russia

[47-minute audio] Henry Gruver: Russian Invasion of America

Skousen: U.S. Intentionally Vulnerable to Nuclear Attack from China/Russia

[Updated December 2013] Joel Skousen: Year-End Big Picture Review of Threats — Russia/China invasion of U.S.A. TIMING discussed

Skousen: RUSSIA’S PREPARATIONS TO FIGHT AND WIN A NUCLEAR WAR • The US is actively inviting a first strike against our forces by disarming while Russia cheats—and we don’t even have a treaty with the Chinese for them to cheat on, so it’s full steam ahead for all the major nuclear powers except the US • The US will do anything to coverup or downplay the Chinese threat • The Chinese have over 3,000 miles of tunnels to hide their mobile missiles

Skousen: Analysis of Strategic Threats in the Current Decade

[Updated May 2010] Joel Skousen: Analysis of Strategic Threats in the Current Decade — The Big Picture!

All 100 of my Joel Skousen posts in reverse chronological order

(vision ’84) Dumitru Duduman: The Russian Invasion of America — “It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.’ Then there will be an internal revolution in America…. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans…” — The rapture will occur AFTER America is destroyed, as God destroys the enemies of Israel [after the true Jews repent]!

This is an amazing story from an AMAZING man of God that we should well take heed of.

Notice what Dumitru was told when the rapture will occur — after America is destroyed, and just as God destroys the enemies of Israel:

When Israel doesn’t have the help of the Jews in America anymore, in their terror, when they see what is coming, the Jews in Israel will call upon the Messiah.  The Messiah will come to help Israel. Then the church of God will meet Him in the clouds (1 Thes.4:16).

This seems to fit with what Paul said in 2 Thess.: Why There is No Pre-Trib or Mid-Trib Rapture: Jesus will destroy the Lawless One at the same time he is gathering the saints to meet him in the air

– jeff

This vision also at Dumitru’s grandson’s site: THE MESSAGE FOR AMERICA

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From: americaslastdays.blogspot.com/p/dumitru-duduman-vision-of-russian.html

Dumitru Duduman Russian Invasion of America

Dumitru Duduman was a Romanian pastor that smuggled bible into Russia. He was captured and tortured by the electric chair. When he was close to death Gabriel the archangel came to him and ministered to him and by the grace of God he was expelled out of Romania.

When he moved to America Dumitru Duduman received a vision from the Lord and Gabriel showed him all of Californian, Las Vegas, New York, Nevada, and Florida and was told that these cities were as Sodom and Gomorrah and that in one day it would burn. He was told that Revelation 17,18 and Ezekiel 38,39 talks of the Russian invasion of America Mystery Babylon and in one day it will burn.

In one day Russia will attack America by sea and destroy America by nuclear weapons.

The Nations that will attack and destroy America are Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and 2 others that where forgotten but one may be China according to Henry gruver’s vision of the destruction of America.

Dumitru Duduman
The Russian Invasion of America

It was late at night and I couldn’t stay inside because of the smell.  I was sitting outside on a rock.  A light came toward me.  The fear of cars came with me.  The Romanian Police tried to run over me with cars.  That’s why I jumped up.  The light surrounded me.  Out of the light I heard the same voice.  It said, “Dumitru, why are you so despaired?”

I said, “Why did you punish me?  What did I do that was so rotten that you brought me to the United States?  I have nowhere to lie my head down upon.  I can’t understand anybody.”

He said, “Dumitru, didn’t I tell you that I am here with you also?  I brought you here to this country because this country will burn.”

“Then why did you bring me here to burn?  Why didn’t you let me die in my own country?”

“Dumitru, have patience and I will tell you.  Get beside me.”

I don’t know what it was.  Brothers, I got beside the angel.  He showed me all of California.  He showed me all the cities of California.  Then he showed me Las Vegas.

“You see what I have shown you?  This is Sodom and Gomorrah.  In one day it will burn.”

He said, “It’s sin has reached the Holy One.”

He showed me another great city.  He said, “Do you know what city this is?”

I said, “No.”

He said, “This is New York City.  This is Sodom and Gomorrah.  In one day it will burn.”

He showed me Florida.  He said, “This is Florida.  This is Sodom and Gomorrah.  In one day it will burn.”

He didn’t let me say a word until he brought me back to the place we had left.  He said, “Now, Dumitru, you can ask me questions.”

He said, “I brought you to this country.  Dumitru, I want to wake up a lot of people.  I love this country.  I love the people.  I want to save them.  America will burn.”

I said, “How can I save them?  I can’t even speak their language?  Who knows me here?  How will they call me?”

He said, “Don’t worry.  I will be ahead of you.  I will make great healings among the American people.  You will go to television stations, radio stations and churches.  Tell them everything I tell you.  Don’t hide anything.  If you try to hide anything I will punish you.  America will burn.”

“How will America burn?  It is so powerful.”

He said, “The Russian spies have discovered where the most  powerful nuclear missiles are in America.  It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.  Then there will be an internal revolution in America, started by the Communists.  The government will be busy with internal problems.  Then, from the oceans, Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries (which I cannot remember) will attack!  The Russians will bombard the nuclear missile silos in America.  America will burn.

I said, “What will you do with the church?”

He said, “The church has left me.”

I said, “How? Don’t you have people here?”

He said, “People in America honor people.  The honor that should be given to God, they give to other people.  Americans think highly of themselves.  They say, ‘I serve God,’ but they don’t.  In the church there is divorce, adultery, fornication, sodomy, abortion and all kinds of sin.  Jesus Christ doesn’t live in sin.  He lives in holiness. I brought you here so you could cry out loud.  Don’t be afraid.  I am with you.  Tell them to stop sinning.  God never stops forgiving.  Tell them to repent.  He will forgive them.  Tell them to start preparing themselves so I can save them in the day of trouble.”

If you call me to speak, God loves you.  That’s what the angel of God told me.

“Whoever I love, I want to wake.  I will put on their hearts to call you.  Don’t hide anything or I will punish you.”

Stop sinning and repent.  He will forgive and we will have salvation.

I said, “How will you save the Church if America will burn?”

He said, “Tell them as I tell you.  As he saved the three young men through the oven of fire, and Daniel from the mouth of the lion, that is how I will save them.  Tell them to stop sinning and repent.

“I have blessed this country because of the Jews that are here.  I have 7 million Jews here.  They haven’t tasted war of persecution.  God blessed them more than anyone else.  Instead of thanking God, they started sinning and doing wickedly.  Their sins have reached the Holy one.  God will punish them with fire.  Israel doesn’t recognize the Messiah, because they place their trust on the power of the Jews in America.  When God will hit America, all the nations will be terrified.

“God will raise up China, Japan and many other nations and they will beat the Russians.  They will push them back to the gates of Paris.  There they will make a peace treaty, but they will make the Russians their leader.  All the nations with the Russians as their leader go against Israel.  It’s not that they want to.  God makes them.

Israel doesn’t have the help of the Jews in America anymore.  In their terror, when they see what is coming, they will call upon the Messiah.  The Messiah will come to help Israel. Then the church of God will meet Him in the clouds (1 Thes.4:16).

Are you ready to meet Jesus Christ?  Are your wedding clothes clean?  If there are still spots on the clothes of your soul, then the blood of Jesus Christ still has power to cleanse sins.  Jesus Christ will live with the Church on the Mount of Olives.  He himself will fight against the nations.

I said, “If you are the angel of God, everything you tell me has to be written in the Bible.  If it is not, then I can’t tell the Americans.”

“Tell them to read Jeremiah 51:8-15.  He names it ‘The Mystery Babylon,  The Great Adulteress.’  Also, Revelation Chapter 18, the entire chapter.  There it says clearly what will happen to America.”

Why did he name it, “The Mystery Babylon”?

“Tell them because all the nations of the world immigrated into America and America accepted them.  America accepted Buddha, the devil church, the sodomite church, the Mormon church and all kinds of wickedness.  America was a Christian nation.  Instead of stopping them, they went after their gods.  Because of this, He named them “The Mystery Babylon.”

So you know that truly I have been sent by God, tomorrow at 9:00 am, someone will come to give you a bed.  At 10:30 someone will come to pay your rent.  At noon, someone will bring you a car and give you a bucket of honey.”

Brothers, it happened as the angel had said.  At 9:00 someone rang my doorbell and said, “I brought you a bed.  I could not sleep all night long.  God told me that you were from Romania and that you need a bed.”  At 10:30 someone else rang my doorbell and handed me a check for $500 and said, “God told me to bring you $500.”  At noon, someone came and gave [me] a car and a bucket of honey!

You might say, “Why?  We trust in God!  We have God on our side!  On our dollar bill it has ‘In God we trust.’  How are our lives?  We go after the foreign gods.  The American church has adultery, fornication, sodomy, divorce and abortion.  If we repent with all of our hearts and call Jesus to help us, we will stop sinning.  We know that when Jesus comes we will meet him in the clouds.

The angel also said, “Before the internal problems begin in America, your country (Romania) will have a revolution (fulfilled December 22, 1989).

(Dumitru told me about the revolution in March of 1988 over a year before it occurred.)

Entire Article Here with Maps

Related:

(vision) Dumitru Duduman: WHEN AMERICA GOES TO WAR WITH CHINA the RUSSIANS WILL STRIKE Alaska, Minnesota, Florida — “America’s sin has reached God. He will allow this destruction, for He can no longer stand such wickedness. God however, still has people that worship Him with a CLEAN HEART as they do HIS WORK. He has prepared a heavenly army to save these people”

[ audio ] Henry Gruver’s Three Visions: Russian (and Chinese) Invasion of America — “When Russia opens her gates and lets the masses go, the free world will occupy themselves with transporting, housing and caring for the masses, and will begin to let their weapons down, and will cry ‘peace and safety,’ and that’s when it will happen.”

(video) Dumitru Duduman: Wake Up America

[2-hour audio] Henry Gruver with Steve Quayle: Visions of War – Visions of Heaven

[mp3 audio] Henry Gruver’s Vision of America being invaded by Russia

[47-minute audio] Henry Gruver: Russian Invasion of America

The WW3 Prophecies (includes prophecies by others)

RED DAWN: ASIAN MILITARY INVASION OF USA? (prophecies by many others)

(vision) Woman Sees Russia Attack US In WWIII! — SOVIET UNION the threat, not ISIS • TIME is SHORT – she saw PUTIN “the way he looks now!” • No pre-trib rapture!

[Updated December 2013] Joel Skousen: Year-End Big Picture Review of Threats — Russia/China invasion of U.S.A. TIMING discussed

Skousen: U.S. Intentionally Vulnerable to Nuclear Attack from China/Russia

Skousen: RUSSIA’S PREPARATIONS TO FIGHT AND WIN A NUCLEAR WAR • The US is actively inviting a first strike against our forces by disarming while Russia cheats—and we don’t even have a treaty with the Chinese for them to cheat on, so it’s full steam ahead for all the major nuclear powers except the US • The US will do anything to coverup or downplay the Chinese threat • The Chinese have over 3,000 miles of tunnels to hide their mobile missiles

China Preparing to Target U.S. Aircraft Carriers — The WU-14 can penetrate missile defense systems by traveling at up to ten times the speed of sound!

(audio/text) Joel Skousen: With a Growing Russian Missile Threat, US is Still Disarming — “Russia says their missiles are for “containment” of the US, but we know they are preparing for a nuclear first strike on America”

(video) Joel Skousen: An Evil Pact Drives Globalists to Set Up USA for China/Russia Takeover | North Korea Will Be the Trigger

New Russian Submarines Are So Silent That The U.S. Navy Calls Them “Black Holes” — An earlier model armed with long-range cruise missiles sailed around in the Gulf of Mexico for weeks without being detected in 2012!

(video) US aircraft carriers would last 2-3 days against Soviet navy at sea – Admiral Rickover in the ’70s — Russian subs are so capable and difficult to locate!

345 MPH Supercavitating Torpedoes — US aircraft carriers now sitting ducks to Russia & China’s torpedoes

Russia and China’s SS-N-22 Sunburn missile: U.S. aircraft carrier and Aegis-class cruiser killer! — SS-N-22 skims the surface of the water at 2.5x the speed of sound until just before impact, when it lifts up and then heads straight down into the target’s deck. Its 200 kiloton nuclear warhead has almost 20 times the explosive power of the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima. The U.S. Navy has no defence against this missile system

(video) Russia Electronically Disables U.S. Guided Missile Destroyer — Ultra-modern destroyer USS Donald Cook paralyzed by a single SU-24 in the Black Sea (2014)

China may have largest Pacific fleet by 2020 — and capability to destroy US military and intelligence satellites?

Skousen: Analysis of Strategic Threats in the Current Decade

[Updated May 2010] Joel Skousen: Analysis of Strategic Threats in the Current Decade — The Big Picture!

CORRIE TEN BOOM: PREPARED For The COMING TRIBULATION — “Daddy, I am afraid that I will never be STRONG ENOUGH TO BE A MARTYR for Jesus Christ.” My father said, “OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN KNOWS when you will need the strength…. HE WILL SUPPLY ALL YOU NEED – JUST IN TIME.“

12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture

In-studio with Infowarrior Alex Jones: Pastor Anderson Reveals Pre-Trib Rapture Deception — “Before the year 1830, EVERY denomination, every type of Christianity taught that the rapture took place AFTER the tribulation, because that’s what the Bible explicitly says.”

[7-minute video sneak peek] The RAPTURE will take place “AFTER THE TRIBULATION” — “Christians, today, are NOT BEING WARNED about the events they will face in the great tribulation. To learn the truth about the rapture, we must look within the pages of the Bible, itself”

Pastor Steven Anderson in Infowars studio: The Truth Left Behind — “The PRE-tribulation rapture is not based on ANY scripture.” The “Left Behind” series was fiction.

All 100+ of my Joel Skousen posts (10 posts per page; latest appear first)

Why There is No Pre-Trib or Mid-Trib Rapture: Jesus will destroy the Lawless One at the same time he is gathering the saints to meet him in the air

From: Scholars Corner

The Last Trumpet: Why There is no Pre-Tribulation* or Mid-Tribulation* Rapture

Paul’s View of the Last Days – Why There are None “Left Behind”

Those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation or Mid-Tribulation Rapture have argued that Jesus will appear and gather the saints and then disappear for either 3.5 years or 7 years* while the Anti-Christ takes over the earth.* However, Paul clearly states that when Jesus appears, Jesus will destroy the Lawless One at the same time he is gathering the saints to meet him in the airThere is no intervening period of 3 to 7 years.

The logic is very simple. Paul equates the return of the Lord with the slaying of the Anti-Christ [or Man of Lawlessness], he equates the return of Christ with the Rapture [or Assembly to meet Jesus in the air], and he equates the return of Christ with the Last Trumpet. Paul sees all three events as simultaneous. The Anti-Christ is causing a reign of terror before the coming of the Lord, and the saints are still on the earth being persecuted while this Man of Lawlessness has power. Paul anticipates that he may even be alive at the time of the Lord’s appearing during this time of persecution – which would mean that Paul, a faithful, believing saint, might be on the earth during the time of the tribulation. He is not being left behind because of apostasy:

“But we would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangels call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, RSV.

There was a rumor spreading among the Thessalonians that they had missed the “rapture.” They had heard that the Lord had already returned, and they feared they might have been “left behind.” Paul writes 1 & 2 Thessalonians in part to assure believers that they have not been “left behind.” Paul wants them to know that all believers will share in Christ’s return and none will be left or miss the Lord’s coming. Believing that even he might be on earth at the Lord’s return, Paul says that the there will be many saints on the earth when Christ returns, and together with the previously dead in Christ, they all will assemble in the air to meet Jesus, who will, at that time, slay the Anti-Christ. Jesus will not leave people on the earth at the mercy of the Anti-Christ. There will not be an rapture [assembly in the air] and then, later, Jesus again coming a third time to destroy the Anti-Christ. Jesus destroys the Lawless One at the very same time he comes for the saints:

“Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the Man of Lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you this?… And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and his coming.” 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, RSV.

Entire Article Here

Related:

12 Reasons NOT To Expect a PRE-Trib Rapture

Dumitru Duduman: The Russian Invasion of America — “It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.’ Then there will be an internal revolution in America…. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans…” — The rapture will occur AFTER America is destroyed, as God destroys the enemies of Israel!

Dave Macpherson, author of “The Rapture Plot”: Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty — John Darby, Edward Irving, Cyrus Scofield, Tim Lahaye, John Walvoord, Jerry Falwell, Chuck Missler, Hal Lindsey, Jack van Impe, Grant Jeffrey …

The Rapture: History and Influence in America — “Christians trade the message of Revelation as a call of discipleship in a fallen world for escapism.”

Corrie Ten Boom: Prepared for the Coming Tribulation

Warmongers Unite: Rapture Ready – The Christians United for Israel Tour with ‘Pastor’ John Hagee

John Hagee – Enforce UN Thought Crimes Law

Preemptive-Striker John Hagee Endorses 100-Years-in-Iraq John McCain

John Hagee: “Jesus Did Not Come To Earth To Be the Messiah”

Pastor Baldwin: Ron Paul’s Israel Problem [Evangelicals Led Astray?]

John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran

John Hagee: Unrepentant Heretic? — Today, churchgoers stand hand in hand with a Jewish people who would crucify Christ again if He walked their streets.

Alex Jones: The pre-trib rapture doctrine is a big, sickening, psyop, bringing US into tyranny! “Most of you are a bunch of torture loving, war loving people…” — Truthful commentary by a non-pastor

Mike Bickle’s (IHOP) prophetic dream: “What is coming is so much more intense than we imagine.” “We must experience manifestation of His majesty that makes us tremble and His kindness that moves us to repentance and servanthood.” “We will receive angelic assistance and great power…”

After America Went Down Music: Our Demise Theme [Barber: “Adagio for Strings”] / The Demons Rejoice Dance Mix [Dj Tiesto] ||| WWWIII ||| “Once saved always saved” + pre-tribulation rapture + old covenant law tithing + “Support Bush no matter what”/dis the peacemakers and Ron Paul = Doomsday! ||| Where were the Bonhoeffers and therefore the disciples of Christ?!!

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it was PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[video] The Rapture: History and Influence in America — “Christians trade the message of Revelation as a call of discipleship in a fallen world for escapism.”

“Why should the last generation of Christians expect to do less
cross-bearing than previous ones?”

– Ben Witherington
Asbury Theological Seminary 

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“Proponents of the rapture have taken particular passages and removed them from their context in order to support their theological ideas. Such theology distorts the message of the Bible. Christians trade the message of Revelation as a call of discipleship in a fallen world for escapism.”

“Rather than viewing natural disasters and wars as horrific events that require Christian action, many embrace these events as exciting signals that Christ will soon rapture His church. Many fear that these views are shaping American culture and political beliefs.”

(transcribed by Jeff Fenske)

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Witherington stated it this way in his book, Revelation and the End Times: Unraveling God’s Message of Hope —

“Why should the last generation of Christians be exempt from suffering or martyrdom when no previous generation of the faithful have been?”

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Left Behind History and Influence-Great Lies and false Teachings
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Warmongers Unite: Rapture Ready – The Christians United for Israel Tour with ‘Pastor’ John Hagee

John Hagee – Enforce UN Thought Crimes Law

Preemptive-Striker John Hagee Endorses 100-Years-in-Iraq John McCain

John Hagee: “Jesus Did Not Come To Earth To Be the Messiah”

Pastor Baldwin: Ron Paul’s Israel Problem [Evangelicals Led Astray?]

John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran

John Hagee: Unrepentant Heretic? — Today, churchgoers stand hand in hand with a Jewish people who would crucify Christ again if He walked their streets.

Alex Jones: The pre-trib rapture doctrine is a big, sickening, psyop, bringing US into tyranny! “Most of you are a bunch of torture loving, war loving people…” — Truthful commentary by a non-pastor

Mike Bickle’s (IHOP) prophetic dream: “What is coming is so much more intense than we imagine.” “We must experience manifestation of His majesty that makes us tremble and His kindness that moves us to repentance and servanthood.” “We will receive angelic assistance and great power…”

After America Went Down Music: Our Demise Theme [Barber: “Adagio for Strings”] / The Demons Rejoice Dance Mix [Dj Tiesto] ||| WWWIII ||| “Once saved always saved” + pre-tribulation rapture + old covenant law tithing + “Support Bush no matter what”/dis the peacemakers and Ron Paul = Doomsday! ||| Where were the Bonhoeffers and therefore the disciples of Christ?!!

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it was PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[video] Pastor Antonio Thomas: The Truth about Tithing — Pastors are afraid they won’t get paid, so they threaten people with an old covenant curse instead of teaching heartfelt, Spirit-led giving

Many pastors don’t want to give up on teaching tithing; even though, they know it’s wrong. Antonio points out that they’re afraid they won’t get paid. That’s because people rightfully don’t want to fund spiritually dead ‘churches’ in which the pastors aren’t Spirit-led themselves to even be able to teach the people how to be led by the Holy Spirit.

If pastors need to teach tithing to keep the doors open they shouldn’t be pastors. And could these pastors then pray against (James-3 curse) those who refuse to go along with tithing — thinking they even have an Old Testament scripture that gives them license to even curse those who they are supposed to lead into holiness?

I think so. See: Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable” I can still remember the pastor slamming the pulpit, yelling: “don’t you dare rob God!!” Another in the same ‘church’ led us in a prayer in which he actually cursed the abortionists. I spoke to him afterward, saying we can’t do this because of James 3. He said he can do this because of what it says in the Old Testament. And we have never spoken again.

One of the pastors in this ‘church’ told me that they all know tithing isn’t biblical, but they aren’t telling the people….

But once the truth about tithing is taught, and how we need to be right with each other in Christ to even be real, going-to-heaven Christians, then God would show up in such great glory — ‘ONE’ happening (John 17) — that there never would be money problems again!!!

It’s just such a no brainer. Com’ on, you all. The Bible really is clear on both of these doctrines: “who goes to heaven” and “tithing or being Spirit-led.” I prove them on this site.

If we’ve been wrong, let’s just admit it, and get right with all people in God, and live in His glory for the rest of our lives on earth.

People in the churches keep crying for revival, but the only way ‘ONE’ will happen is if we actually do the greatest two commandments. And getting this love-of-money issue right is a key part.

Imagine, if you were God, and the pastors are keeping people under a curse instead of teaching them to be led by You. It grieves God’s heart. His people are so far from Him because the pastors refuse to teach the truth; even though, they’ll get a stricter judgment — which they teach that they can’t because of the once saved, always saved heresy.

Jeff

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“We have to now attach curses to people to motivate them to give. … Whenever you attach giving to those things [threat of being cursed, etc.], and that means that your giving is under compulsion. and it is no longer a heartfelt, spirit-led action.”

“Most of our pastors don’t trust God enough for that. … At the end of the month there would be a whole lot of nervous pastors wondering if they’re going to get paid. … My philosophy is that if this is of God, then your lack of giving cannot destroy it. If this is of God?”

– Antonio Thomas

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67wiZovdpl0]The Truth about Tithing by Pastor Antonio Thomas of Freedom Christian Church in Tucker, GA

Uploaded by  on Mar 31, 2009

Sr. Pastor Antonio Thomas exposes the fallacy of requiring members of local churches to pay tithes and reveals the truth about tithing’s exclusive connection to the Old Covenant in scripture. This interview will surely liberate many people who have felt uncomfortable with the concept of tithing in their local church.

Related:

[My Dream] Tithing? “No, it’s a Holy Spirit thing!!”

The Day that Tithing Ended — To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit

Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine

Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Where in the Bible Were Tithes Abolished?

Russell Kelly: REASONS TO OPPOSE N.T. TITHING

Russell Kelly: TITHERS’ MATTHEW 5:17 PROBLEM

Russell Kelly, Ph.D.: Reply to Jim Feeney, Ph.D. on Tithing

Many Pastors Still Teach Old Covenant, Pre-Pentecost Tithing—Not Spirit-Led Giving

Tithing or the Carriage Driver? [From the Let Us Be ONE prophecy]

Pastor Cornelius Simon: No More Tithing (Atlanta Live Interview)

Creflo Dollar: “Pay Tithes or get SHOT!”

David Bercot CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About Tithing and Fasting? “You might be surprised to know…”

Teaching tithing keeps the little (and the big) children from coming to Jesus where they can have life!

All of my Tithing or Spirit-led posts

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A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls)

‘Pastor’: You can pray AGAINST people. “It’s well worth it!” – Vs – God: “Bless and don’t curse,” “This wisdom is…DEMONIC,” “Overcome evil with good” “that you may be children of your Father”

“Breaking Christian Curses: Finding Freedom from Destructive Prayers” by Dennis Cramer

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way (Can James-3 cursers go to heaven?)

Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!

WordPOWER: Repay No One Evil for Evil — Don’t Curse — Give Place to God’s Wrath

Many Curse Others From Their Hurts Deep Within

WordPOWER: The Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4

Martin Luther Cursed from His Heart Catholic Leaders, ‘Every Day’

[WordPOWER!] David in Psalm 38: “…neither is there any HEALTH in my bones because of my sin. … Those who SEEK MY HURT…meditate deceits ALL DAY LONG. … Those who HATE ME WITHOUT REASON…render evil for good…BECAUSE I FOLLOW WHAT IS GOOD.” — Check your HEART. Are you one of the James-3 cursers?

[WordPOWER!] Romans 12: Repay No One Evil for Evil — Don’t Curse — Give Place to God’s Wrath

All of my ‘Christians’ Cursing People posts at ONEcanhappen

All of my People Cursing People posts at ToBeFree

[video] Pastor Cornelius Simon: No More Tithing (Atlanta Live Interview)

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfeDi5E16P0]No More Tithing (Atlanta Live Interview)

Uploaded by  on Jan 25, 2011

Should believers tithe under the new covenant as it was mandated under the old covenant, the law? What were the rules of tithing under the old coveant? Were everyone to tithe off of everything? In this Atlanta Live interview, Pastor Simon shares the truth about tithing and its relevancy under the New Covenant.This intervie will have you asking questions and wanting more knowledge on the subject of tithing.

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Related:

[My Dream] Tithing? “No, it’s a Holy Spirit thing!!”

The Day that Tithing Ended — To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit

Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine

Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Where in the Bible Were Tithes Abolished?

Russell Kelly: REASONS TO OPPOSE N.T. TITHING

Russell Kelly: TITHERS’ MATTHEW 5:17 PROBLEM

Russell Kelly, Ph.D.: Reply to Jim Feeney, Ph.D. on Tithing

Many Pastors Still Teach Old Covenant, Pre-Pentecost Tithing—Not Spirit-Led Giving

Tithing or the Carriage Driver? [From the Let Us Be ONE prophecy]

Creflo Dollar: “Pay Tithes or get SHOT!”

David Bercot CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About Tithing and Fasting? “You might be surprised to know…”

Teaching tithing keeps the little (and the big) children from coming to Jesus where they can have life!

All of my Tithing or Spirit-led posts

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it was PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

[video] Truth vs Unity: “Truth must come before unity”

“Truth must come before unity.”

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“There is an absolute truth to the universe. Somethings are bad and somethings are good. Truth is not relative.

The phrase “What is true for you is not true for me” by definition cannot be true. Ex: The world is round regardless of whether you believe it is flat.” (The Paradigm Shift)

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycY8y9cK0SE]Know Your Enemy (Part 68 – Truth v Unity)

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Series exploring the coming New World Order from a Christian perspective. In this part, how Christians should deal with Post-Modernism and its ideas about ecumenism, interfaith dialogue and world peace.

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When Americans Understood the Declaration of Independence — Americans did not always attend church services on the Sunday before the Fourth of July to “honor” their “military heroes” and pray that they may kill many more human beings in other countries that have done them no harm.

From: Infowars

When Americans Understood the Declaration of Independence

Thomas J. DiLorenzo
lewrockwell.com
July 4, 2012

The Fourth of July was not always a national celebration of the militarization of American society and of the federal government’s never-ending quest for world domination (disguised as “defending our interests abroad”). Americans did not always attend church services on the Sunday before the Fourth of July to “honor” their “military heroes” and pray that they may kill many more human beings in other countries that have done them no harm. Americans once actually read and understood the Declaration of Independence for what it was: a declaration of secession from the British empire and a roadmap for opposing a highly centralized, militaristic empire of the sort the U.S. government has become.

The Declaration of Independence was the ultimate secessionist or states’ rights document. “Governments are instituted among men,” Thomas Jefferson wrote, for the sole purpose of securing God-given, “unalienable” rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Moreover, governments derive “their just powers from the consent of the governed” and nowhere else. And “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government . . .”

The way in which “the People” were to express their consent (or lack thereof) was through state and local political organizations. Hence, in the final paragraph of the Declaration of Independence Jefferson wrote that: “We . . . the Representatives of the united States of America . . . are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.”

It is important to note that the word “united” is not capitalized but “States” is, and that the individual states are described as “Free and Independent.” Thus, the free, independent, and sovereign states were united in the cause of secession from the British empire. The phrase “united States” did not mean, and does not mean in any of the founding documents, the “United States government,” as is commonly believed today. It is always in the plural to signify that the free and independent states are united in their common cause of protecting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. To Jefferson and the other signers of the Declaration of Independence, each American state was sovereign in the same sense that Great Britain, France, and Spain were sovereign states.

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