Jesus prayed we'd be 'ONE' with each other in Him that the world will know! (John 17)

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Know for sure what God’s Word REALLY says

Jesus: “Whoever shall say, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of the fire of Hell!”

Matthew 5:

20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

21 “You have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, ‘You shall not murder;’ and ‘Whoever shall murder shall be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whoever shall say to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council; and whoever shall say, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of the fire of Gehenna.

23 “If therefore you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has anything against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are with him in the way; lest perhaps the prosecutor deliver you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be cast into prison. 26 Most certainly I tell you, you shall by no means get out of there, until you have paid the last penny.


Related:

WordPower: BEWARE, in the LAST DAYS People Will Be WILLINGLY IGNORANT

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it WAS PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

Willful Ignorance: Actively Resisting the Truth and Truth-tellers

From Willful Ignorance through Cognitive Dissonance to “Could I Be Wrong?”

[Willfully ignorant] Dr. Doug Rokke: People won’t acknowledge what the US has really done because the foundation for everything they’ve believed and what they’ve trusted literally collapses…

Look what the NIV did to Romans 8:1 — They changed the entire meaning of the verse and leave no requirement or prerequisite to being free from condemnation! [Romans 8:1A is now an OSAS theme song, while verses 4-17 still say we must walk according to the Spirit, suffering with Christ to be heirs & children of God having ‘no condemnation’]

From: hissheep.org

A Comparison Between the King James (KJV) &

The New International (NIV) Bibles

Romans 8:1

KJV “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

NIV “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,”

NIV leaves out “who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” It changes the entire meaning of the verse and leaves no requirement or prerequisite to being free from condemnation. In truth, the verse tells us that if you do walk in the flesh, then there is condemnation. They have taken that out, so that you won’t know the truth. (source).

[Reality-check video] Learn Why Jesus BANNED Heaven From Famous Uganda Pastor!

“Beloved, there is a responsibility to overcome.”

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2YUaeyditU]Learn Why Jesus BANNED Heaven From Famous Uganda Pastor!

Uploaded by on Jan 16, 2012

Renowned Pastor in Uganda with a “successful ministry” in saving many souls, many healed and many delivered was SHOCKED when JESUS told him “if I came today to take my Bride…I WOULD NOT TAKE YOU.” At that moment, he said “ALL HIS THEOLOGIES COULD NOT ACCEPT THAT”, but JESUS is still saying: “I WOULD NOT TAKE YOU.” Will YOU be like HIM when JESUS RETURNS?

Please watch the whole testimony, it will really make you think and hopefully bring you to your KNEES in HUMILITY in DEEP REPENTANCE.

There is so much lies and the spirit of the Anti-Christ floating around videos / FB messages / false grace preaching on the internet and in the churches that SOUNDS GOOD when in fact they are absolutely false. The devil is using these false teachings to MAKE MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS (who think they are ready to see God) to be ABSOLUTELY LEFT BEHIND when all of this happens (which will be ANYTIME NOW). Please examine yourself honestly today, please everyone.

TIME IS OVER!

Related:

Pastor DIES > goes to HELL because he HADN’T FORGIVEN his wife > AROSE from the dead almost 2 days later > tells story

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[video] Paul Washer Sermon Jam: The True Christian | My take: Most theologians are making it way too complicated, trying to fit their doctrine into one of two OSAS mathematical formulas — instead of Christianity being right relationships which come from truly abiding in the Son. If our consciences are clear NOW they’ll be clear THEN!

I just wrote this as a comment to this video (below) posted on Facebook (my Facebook page). It appears very good, but something isn’t quite right. Here is my take.

The warning part is VERY good, and sadly RARE these days; however, some of this seems misleading. Most theologians are making it way too complicated, trying to fit their doctrine into one of two mathematical formulas, instead of Christianity just being a right relationship which comes from truly abiding in the Son.

Who goes to heaven is simple. We need to be forgiven, because we’ve all sinned. And then by God’s grace (Holy Spirit enablement/empowerment) we must overcome sin so our consciences are clear before God and men, now, so when we see Him face to face we’ll be right with Him to enter, then. “Without holiness no one will see God.”

But today, there are these two, disinfo, once-saved-always-saved, misleading doctrines.

Most are teaching that we don’t actually have to be right with men to be right with God — because “it’s all about what Jesus did.” We can be holy *legally* without being holy *experientially.* Which is the main doctrine destroying America, in my opinion.

And then there is John Calvin’s “perseverance of the saints” doctrine, which seems to be what Paul Washer is talking about here. They believe that those who are truly born-again will persevere to never lose their salvation, and that those who don’t persevere were never truly born-again. So in their way of thinking, even when these truly born-againers willfully sin they’ll overcome in the long run so even if they died while willfully lusting/lying/hating they’d go to heaven?!!! This is a direct contradiction to what the Bible really teaches, which I prove here…:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? [I’m planning on pulling my $6,000 offer today, as this has been up for a year. I’ve proven my point.]

Real Christianity is resting in God, confident that we’re right with God and people because we really, experientially are — and if we’re not right, we better get right so we can rest in Christ again, assured of our salvation, having clean consciences —abiding in the Vine, living in the Son.

And when a group of us are doing this we’ll be in unity — or what Jesus called ‘ONE’ (John 17). Then the world will know, because He’ll give us His glory, like He has so many times before in the many revivals, which I think is just basic Christianity that didn’t last, because they didn’t realize that they needed to stay holy to be real going-to-heaven Christians.

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oETpvvFOwZc]Paul Washer Sermon Jam – The True Christian

Uploaded by on Apr 11, 2009

A sermon by Paul Washer, put to some music, with a small slide show.

Related:

Do You Honestly Believe That You Are Saved? JUST BECAUSE YOU PRAYED A PRAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [John Piper, Paul Washer, Leonard Ravenhill, Tim Conway, Charles Leiter]

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

George Whitefield: Doctrine

Once-saved-always-saved does not promote holiness or lead to God.

Nor does the old covenant law of tithing.

Now, we’re supposed to be led by the Holy Spirit.

Then we can become ‘ONE’ — walking in our graces — together!

The glory of Christ will fill us, and then the world will know – John 17 realized!

– jeff

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“It is an undoubted truth that every doctrine that comes from God leads to God;
and that which doth not tend to promote holiness is not of God.”

 – George Whitefield

[EXCELLENT video] Francis Chan & Preston Sprinkle: Erasing Hell — “He gets to define what love is, and not us.” “That means my sin is way worse than I could ever even imagine.” | ~”I think this whole concept of ‘how could God do this’ is woven into the fabric of our culture that says ‘how dare my dad tell me what I can and cannot do!’ We’ve lost the idea of authority, and it’s killing our culture.”

Francis Chan and Preston Sprinkle are coauthors of: Erasing Hell: What God said about eternity, and the things we made up, which I have read, and highly recommend; however, I was disappointed with one of their points. When Jesus mentions the worm that never dies and the fire that is never quenched, I do believe the worms and the fire is real, not figurative, which Mary Katherine Baxter experienced. She explains how the fires and utter darkness are fully compatible in that realm. It’s a place we don’t want to go, period!

I listened to the audio book a few times through. Francis wrote the final draft, but Preston narrates the text, which to me, isn’t ideal, since I’m used to hearing Francis express his own thoughts. But as you can see here, Preston is a great guy too!

There is one thing he says though…. Not wanting to go to hell is actually a good motivation for serving God and living a life in love, in Christ. Jesus, Himself used the threat of hell as a motivational warning. For example, on lusting:

27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,  ‘You shall not commit adultery.’  28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Very important topic and discussion!

jeff

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Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

“He gets to define what love is,
and not us.”

“We question things like ‘does a loving God torture those in hell?’ But I have another question. Does a fair God just forgive you for all the stuff that you did? Does a fair God let you escape hell? Does a fair God have His own Son come down and die for your sake? It’s weird how we’ll question ‘God, how could you punish anyone,’ but we never ask the question, ‘God, how could you forgive anyone?'”

“His thoughts are WAY BEYOND mine.”

“There’s just a sense of arrogance when I tell God ‘look,
this is right or this is wrong….'”

And Francis’ excellent statement @ 52:25 ends with:

“… And then when you disobey God, Himself, there are consequences to that. But the way that we teach love [to children – editor] has been: oh, you never punish; you never discipline; you never say ‘no.’ Just let them act out. It’s like: no, that’s not what God does. That’s not love.

So I think this whole concept of ‘how could God do this,’ it’s woven into the fabric of our culture that says ‘how dare my dad tell me what I can and cannot do.’ And we’ve lost the idea of authority all together, and it’s killing our families; it’s killing our churches; it’s killing our culture.”

– Francis Chan

Preston Sprinkle adds:

“When I think of hell, it’s made me kind of think of the enormity of our sin.
If God is at all just, and He says that the punishment for sin is hell,
that means my sin is way worse than I could ever even imagine.”

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[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zluOaMKGA]Francis Chan: Erasing Hell

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[Q&A] Francis Chan on Rob Bell and Hell: Why ‘ERASING HELL’ was Francis’ most difficult book and how it prompted him to repent for softening Jesus’ warnings — “WE IN AMERICA READ CERTAIN PASSAGES OVER AND OVER TO THE NEGLECT OF OTHERS, we start to believe that Jesus had a friendly tone all the time. … We have tried to block Hell out of our minds. Yet because it’s written about so often in Scripture, I think God does want it on the forefront.”

[10-minute video] Francis Chan: Erasing Hell — “Do you ever even consider the possibility that maybe the Creator’s sense of justice is actually more developed than yours? And that maybe His love and His mercy are perfect, and that you could be the one that is flawed. … We can’t afford to be wrong on this issue.”

All of my Hell is Real — Forever Posts (Most recent listed first)

[video] Fear Of God Has Been Lost In The Church — So MANY WON’T COME INTO FREEDOM — “Oh, so MANY people are GOING to go TO HELL through these churches. These PASTORS WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE” – David Wilkerson

“A reverent fear of God which brings freedom. And it’s because many ‘Christians’ do not have that reverent fear of God they don’t come into freedom.”

– Zac Poonen [correct me if I’m wrong. I’m not familiar with this speaker]

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“There’s no fear of God left in the land. This is what the Bible says: ‘Fear the Lord and depart from evil. The fear of the Lord is to hate evil.’ By mercy and truth, iniquity is purged, and by the fear of the Lord men depart from their evil.”

“Oh, so many people are going to go to Hell through these churches. They’re going to go to Hell. These pastors will be held responsible.”

“I’m telling you now what I believe the Holy Spirit is saying, ‘It’s time to get right with God.'”

— David Wilkerson

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJVbFC9ODZI]Fear Of God Has Been Lost In The Church (Compilation)

Uploaded by on Oct 21, 2011

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Julie Meyer’s Dream: The FEAR OF THE LORD is coming ‘into’ His House — I was reminded of Exodus 20:20: “…that His fear may be before you, so that you may not sin.” | With great anticipation I began MY JOURNEY. … Not every one was allowed to walk up this Great Mountain. Only those with clean hands and a pure heart. … There are NO SHORT CUTS and there are NO OTHER PATHS. … Finally as we ascended to the very top…

Nicky Cruz: David Wilkerson ‘Never Lost His Heart’ — “I almost killed him then because I really was totally full of hate. That was when he told me that Jesus loved me.”

How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!

[Q&A] Francis Chan on Rob Bell and Hell: Why ‘ERASING HELL’ was Francis’ most difficult book and how it prompted him to repent for softening Jesus’ warnings — “WE IN AMERICA READ CERTAIN PASSAGES OVER AND OVER TO THE NEGLECT OF OTHERS, we start to believe that Jesus had a friendly tone all the time. … We have tried to block Hell out of our minds. Yet because it’s written about so often in Scripture, I think God does want it on the forefront.”

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[first rough draft – mostly scriptures on a work just begun] Who Goes To Heaven Part III: Do we have to do anything to go to heaven? Can sins of omission disqualify…? What if we refuse to do what we know we should do?

In the Dan Corner post [Video] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security, a few have asked whether we actually have to do things to go to heaven, one referring to the parable of the talents. I said I’d do a study on it, and quickly compiled some scriptures, but then I somehow lost my motivation to finish the project right away.

So I offered to put the scriptures online in case anyone would like to read the texts themselves. Here they are.

My plan right now is to work on these texts in this post until the study is eventually done. If it’s finished, it will be my third compilation of scriptures on the subject of who goes to heaven. The first two parts are Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

I’m saying “if it’s finished” because I’m not totally sure why I lost motivation, but I suspect it is this. For me, this has been a hard summer to get things done. There are many ‘Christians’ (especially ‘Christian’ leaders) who allow themselves to be internally driven by the dark side [Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!] to actively oppose the truth coming out. The James-3 curses seem to never end. There has so much denial, unwillingness to get right with those who’ve been hurt, and flat out hate within the so called ‘body of Christ.’ And they so desperately want the once-saved-always-saved doctrine to be true so they can go to heaven without having to lose face in front of their friends. Though they’ve lost face already.

The fact that I’m getting so much flack is confirmation that I’m directly over the target. And by the way, I know pretty much who it is who James-3 curses me, via the word of knowledge (God often tells me) and who and what I get prayer language for: I’ve finally shared much of what I know about and what can be done through the TREMENDOUS and mostly misunderstood and underused gift of tongues.

James-3 cursers, you may think you’re getting away with something, but “Don’t be deceived, God is not mocked. What you sow you will reap….” If you don’t feel right with God and people you probably are not. And now is your chance to get free. And people getting right with people will bring revival, the Third Great Awakening about!

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

And bad doctrine has kept revival from happening. People thought they were getting away with something: Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

And those of you who know Kevin Conner. This is what he said: Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

We must be right with God and man. If your conscience condemns you, it probably really is, despite what the current false doctrine says. What did Paul really say in Romans 8:1 about no condemnation?

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Bad doctrine is responsible for the spiritual death that prevails. Whereas good doctrine will bring in revival.

Okay. If anyone else would like to write a study based upon these scriptures feel free. And if you know studies already online that have done a good job on this topic please mention them in a comment.

And please feel free to comment on this even though it’s just a first draft that hopefully will become a coherent overview on this subject.

So hopefully this post will change quite a bit in the future.

Jeff Fenske

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Do we have to do things to go to heaven?

Be not hearers only, and so deceive yourselves, but doers

Many in doing their own thing work against the kingdom and God’s people

4-minute video[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA_uwWPE6lQ]Francis Chan – Balance Beam

Sheep and goats

James: by what I do

John 15: Those in the Vine we will bear fruit

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[WordPOWER!] Jesus in Matthew 5:9 — Christians MUST be peacemakers — the peacemakers are blessed!

Matthew 5:9

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.”

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Related:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way |
Who are the Children of God?

(1-min video) Leonard Ravenhill: Romans 7 vs 8 — Life before the Son vs Life in the Son — “Romans 7 is a funeral march, Romans 8 is a wedding march … it’s a Spirit dominated life in chapter 8.”

In Romans 7,
the Holy Spirit isn’t mentioned once.

“But 19 times, the Holy Spirit is mentioned,
because it’s a Spirit dominated life in chapter 8.”

– Leonard Ravenhill

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Rom. 7 vs 8 by Leonard Ravenhill

Uploaded by on Dec 16, 2009

The Controversy between Romans Chapter 7 vs Chapter 8. The Results are clear as day light.

Related:

Bruce Ware: Christians are wrongly using Romans 7 to justify defeat in their lives!

Paul Furlong: How Romans 7 is unbiblically used to justify sinning

Robert Shank: Erroneous “2 natures of the believer” doctrine — Romans 7 is before Paul’s ‘life in the Son’

THE PATRISTIC INTERPRETATION of ROMANS 7:14-25 — The early church did not understand Romans 7:14-25 to teach the necessity of sin in believers

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[video] Do You Honestly Believe That You Are Saved? JUST BECAUSE YOU PRAYED A PRAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX9Pzo3j58M]Do You Honestly Believe That You Are Saved? JUST BECAUSE YOU PRAYED A PRAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uploaded by on Jun 23, 2009

i never knew you, depart from me.

John Piper, Paul Washer, Leonard Ravenhill, Tim Conway, Charles Leiter

Related:

Paul Washer Sermon Jam: The True Christian | My take: Most theologians are making it way too complicated, trying to fit their doctrine into one of two OSAS mathematical formulas — instead of Christianity being right relationships which come from truly abiding in the Son. If our consciences are clear now they’ll be clear then!

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[WordPOWER!] Romans 6:20-23 — Jesus set us FREE from the slavery of sin to be servants of God. Having FRUIT of sanctification, the result is eternal life ‘in Christ Jesus’!

Paul said we have been set free from the slavery of sin, which he explains is not freedom to sin and still go to heaven, the once-saved-always-saved tragedy that is commonly taught in America today. The wages of sin is still death, whether we’ve been born-again or not.

If we walk in righteousness, bearing fruit that remains (John 15), we will inherit the free gift of God, which is eternal life.

The free gift of God only applies when we are truly in Christ Jesus according to what Romans 8 really says.

We have been set free from the slavery of sin to now be in Christ Jesus, which means….

The Devil tries to twist this. We’ll reap what we sow (Galatians 5 and 6).

Let’s be honest.

We can either go along with THE SPIN
that is destroying America
and sending multitudes to Hell,
no way out —

or we can come out from them and be separate,
so we and many others can be FREE,
‘in Christ,’
now and forever!

ONE can happen
as we draw near to Him
He will draw near to us!

“It’s up to us.”

– Jeff

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Romans 6:

20 For when you were servants of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 What fruit then did you have at that time in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.

22 But now, being made free from sin, and having become servants of God, you have your fruit of sanctification, and the result of eternal life.

23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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Romans 8:1-19

Rom. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace….

12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God. 15 For you didn’t receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abbaa! Father!”

16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God; 17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him. 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which will be revealed toward us. 19 For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

(audio) Dan Corner: “The Romans Road” Isn’t…

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63-Q8-1cqGM]The Romans Road Unedited (Conditional Security not Eternal Security) Dan Corner

Uploaded by on May 31, 2011

The popular Romans Road, as most people know it, is really not complete, according to the book of Romans. The added passages from Romans help clarify more on salvation and bring a much more accurate picture to the listener’s minds.

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Related:

(Video) Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security

Dan Corner’s 801-page book: “The Believer’s Conditional Security”

(audio) Dan Corner: “If you’re lusting in your heart, you are an adulterer, and you won’t inherit the kingdom”

John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake for Having Doctrinal Differences — His Ashes Cry Out!

(audio) Dan Corner: The parable of the sower — “Bringing forth fruit is a salvation issue”

(video) The Grace Changers: Calvinist Mark Driscoll Exposed — “Mark Driscoll’s popularity is proof that we are in a deep dark church apostacy now!”

What about the thief on the cross? He wasn’t required to do works | ‘Sweaty ministry’ VS “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me…”

Father of Calvinism, Augustine’s Prayer To Mary For His Salvation

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

(audio) Dan Corner: “If you’re lusting in your heart, you are an adulterer, and you won’t inherit the kingdom”

Jesus in Matthew 5

27 “You have heard that it was said, a ‘You shall not commit adultery;’ 28 but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna. 30 If your right hand causes you to stumble….

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“You don’t have to lust.
If you’re lusting in your heart,

you are an adulterer,
and you won’t inherit the kingdom.”

– Dan Corner,
after citing Matthew 5:28

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from:
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Four Final Comments

Interview/Debate on Eternal Security

(Dan Corner VS. Jeff Oliver)

Click here for the audio debate
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Entire Article Here

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[Video] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security

Dan Corner’s 801-page book: “The Believer’s Conditional Security”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

[Beautiful cartoon] The Prodigal Son: Life in the Son can be lonely at times, but it’s still the best life

The text moves a bit fast, and we don’t get to see God run, but great audio and visuals!

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The prodigal had the best life when with the father, but got deceived away from it into wickedness, which resulted in loss of salvation.

NOTE: Saints have the best life one can have. It can be lonely and hard, but it is still the best life. The devil will try to get us to be discontent.

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2qi0IMogVc]The Prodigal Son

Uploaded by on Jan 22, 2011

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PLEASE VIEW IN FULL SCREEN so that you can easily read the text. Luke 15 (verses 11-32)

The Prodigal Son is Jesus’ teaching on salvation. It is possible to pass from spiritual life to spiritual death according to what the Lord taught in Luke 15. Sin can bring loss of salvation. God wants the backsliders to repent and come to salvation again.

Related:

(video) Dan Corner: Prodigal Son — “My son was dead, and is alive again! He was lost, and is found!”

Benny Hester: “When God Ran”

Mike Bickle: The most miserable people in the whole earth = TOO MUCH GOD TO ENJOY SIN; TOO MUCH SIN TO ENJOY GOD. WholeHEARTedness: it’s the only way we can function right.

It’s Okay To Be Lonely For Now: The Spiral Staircase Vision

(audio) Dan Corner: The parable of the sower — “Bringing forth fruit is a salvation issue”

The parable of the sower – Dan Corner – salvation

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The parable of the sower is a very important salvation teaching by the Lord Jesus. In it, He describes the four types of people who actually are confronted with the Word of God. Only one of the four types brings forth fruit and therefore will enter God’s paradise kingdom in the end. It also shows the danger of persecution for godliness and how spiritual weeds (cares of this life, deceitful of riches and lust for other things) can choke the fruitfulness out of God’s word.

Related:

[Video] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security

Dan Corner’s 801-page book: “The Believer’s Conditional Security”

[Video] Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

(video) The Grace Changers: Calvinist Mark Driscoll Exposed — “Mark Driscoll’s popularity is proof that we are in a deep dark church apostacy now!”

Once-saved-always-saved (and “it’s hard to lose one’s salvation”) is destroying this nation — as well as keeping the desperately needed Third Great Awakening from happening.

OSAS is even affecting a church in Anchorage that I know well, which used to teach the truth. They used to even hold up Ephesians 4:11-16 as their goal.

Bad doctrine is producing bad churches:

Kevin Conner: Doctrine Determines the Health of the Church

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

We’re being NIVd:

NIV alterations that greatly affect Christian doctrine — including my pet peeves. The NIV is destroying the church! Here’s proof.

Jeff Fenske

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_Anp-LLGE]Calvinist MARK DRISCOLL (of Mars Hill) EXPOSED

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http://www.nocalvinism.org

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/calvinismrefuted.htm Though popular, the real Mark Driscoll is a spiritual snare to people. He is a shock jock who says unusual things which have caused people to examine him out of curiosity.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com

Please see http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/MarkDriscoll.htm for the Transcript, Observations and Comments For The Mark Driscoll vs. Dan Corner Eternal Security Debate.

See also the Skull and Crossbones award that Driscoll so richly deserves http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/mark_driscoll.htm

Related:

[Video] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security

Dan Corner’s 801-page book: “The Believer’s Conditional Security”

[Video] Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Francis Chan: Are Your Beliefs Biblical? What would you believe if you had only read the Bible on your own?

“We should test everything we hear, and see if it’s really in this book.”

– Francis Chan

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Is8QnxviOI]Francis Chan: Are Your Beliefs Biblical? (Crazy Love Chapter 5)

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Related blog post: http://westcoastwitness.com/2010/09/09/francis-chan-are-your-beliefs-biblical/

This clip is an excerpt from chapter 5 of the Crazy Love DVD Study Resource designed for small groups reading Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God by Francis Chan.

Purchase the book and DVD here: http://www.crazylovebook.com/

(video) David Pawson: Reconciling PAUL and JAMES on ‘WORKS’ — Paul was defending Gentiles from JEWISH works-of-the-*law* LEGALISM; James was defending Jews from Gentile LICENSE TO SIN • When Paul says ‘WORKS’ he means works of the *law*, but James means *actions* • “Faith without actions cannot save you” • FAITH + ACTIONS = SAVING FAITH!

David Pawson quotes from the video transcribed by Jeff Fenske:

Beautiful & Important!!!

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“When he [Martin Luther] translated the Bible,
he put James in the appendix at the end.”

See:
Luther: Let us BANISH the epistle of James, for it is ‘WORTHLESS’ —
written by a non-Christian and can’t be reconciled with Paul
and

Martin Luther’s Subordinate Bible Books:
Hebrews, James, Jude & Revelation

“Martin Luther was no more infallible than the Pope he opposed.”

“I believe James needs the rest of the New Testament,
and the rest of the New Testament needs James.”

“We need both Paul and James to get this right.”

* * *

“Paul was defending Gentiles from Jewish [works of the law] legalism,
whereas James was defending Jews from Gentile license [to sin].”

* * *

Legalism says we are saved by works [of the law].
License says we are saved without works [actions].
But liberty says we are saved for works [actions].”

Legalism says we’re going to make sure that you are not free to sin
by rules and regulations [the law].
License says you are free to sin.
Liberty says we are free not to sin.”

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“When Paul says works he means works of the law.
[e.g. Gal. 2:16 & Rom. 3:28]
But when James talks about works he doesn’t mean that.
I think it’s better translated…with the word actions.
And what James is saying is faith without actions is dead
not ‘faith without works of the law.’

And he uses the illustration that love without actions is no use. …
Unless you act in faith you don’t have faith.
Professing faith can’t save you.
He says even the devils believe….”

“Faith without actions cannot save you.
It’s as dead as a corpse.”

– David Pawson

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Crucial concept at minute-7:

James, Faith or Works?

Published on Feb 3, 2011

 
Taken from Pawson’s study of James.
 

Related:

David Pawson’s excellent book on who goes to heaven: Once Saved, Always Saved?: A Study in Perseverance and Inheritance 

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: “OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security.”

(video) David Pawson: The True God and The True Gospel — “We have had what I believe is an overemphasis on the God of love in our preaching to non-believers, something that the New Testament apostles never did”

(video) David Pawson: “Once Saved Always Saved?” — “80 PASSAGES in the New Testament that WARN US not to lose what we’ve found in Christ” • “People who believe in ‘once saved always saved’ believe it because they’ve listened to someone who taught it” • “Preachers rarely quote Romans 11: ‘if you do not continue in His kindness you too will be cut off’” — Jesus said: only those who overcome will not have their names removed from the Book of Life

(video) David Pawson Interview on “Divorce & Remarriage” — Unbiblically married? What to do…

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

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Martin Luther actually ended up being crazy;
though, his false-salvation doctrine is taught by most pastors today.
…destroyed by his own doctrine,
which is destroying US.

* * *

Martin Luther: Sin Boldly — “No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day”

The Protestant Reformers Were Frauds: By their Fruits You Will Know Them — Martin Luther was a false teacher, a racist, a persecutor and a murderer! John Calvin was a false teacher, a deranged tyrant, a persecutor and a murderer!

Martin Luther Cursed from His Heart Catholic Leaders, ‘Every Day’

Luther: Let us BANISH the epistle of James, for it is ‘WORTHLESS’ — written by a non-Christian and can’t be reconciled with Paul

Martin Luther’s Subordinate Bible Books: Hebrews, James, Jude & Revelation

[WordPOWER!] James 2:14-26 — From the book that Luther called ‘worthless,’ ‘an epistle of straw,’ putting ‘James’ in the appendix of his translation. — Instead of changing his doctrine to fit the Bible, he changed the Bible to fit his worthless doctrine that is taught by most pastors today!

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VVwtg-dllY]James 2:14-26

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Related:

Luther: Let us BANISH the epistle of James, for it is ‘WORTHLESS’ — written by a non-Christian and can’t be reconciled with Paul

Martin Luther’s Subordinate Bible Books: Hebrews, James, Jude & Revelation

Martin Luther: Sin Boldly — “No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day”

 

David Pawson on Paul and James: Paul was defending Gentiles from Jewish *works-of-the-law* legalism; James was defending Jews from Gentile license to sin. — When Paul says ‘works’ he means *works of the law,* but James means *actions.* — “Faith without actions cannot save you.” — FAITH + ACTIONS = SAVING FAITH!

John Piper: “If we don’t abide, we are not truly his disciples. And the opposite of true disciples is false disciples. That’s what we are if we count on past experiences without ongoing devotion to Jesus”

From: What Jesus Demands from the World, p. 62

“When Jesus said, ‘If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples’ (John 8:31), he meant that if we don’t abide, we are not truly his disciples. And the opposite of true disciples is false disciples. That’s what we are if we count on past experiences without ongoing devotion to Jesus”

– John Piper

Related:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

(vid) Boshoff: PROPHETIC WARNING – DON’T PLAY WITH GOD — “If you made a promise to God keep that promise” “Whoever you have wronged, go to them now and repent” “Break with your sin before your sin breaks you!”

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

“Fix up your relationships. …
Whoever you have wronged,
go to them now and repent.
Ask them forgiveness.

And also, you must grant forgiveness to them.
Because if you do not grant forgiveness
God will not forgive you, my friend.”

“Judgment is now starting in the house of God.”

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[1-minute video] BASIC.Follow Jesus by Francis Chan

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX_mA93jtgo]BASIC.Follow Jesus by Francis Chan

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The first words of Jesus’ ministry were “Follow Me.” He did not promise health, wealth, comfort, or safety. But He did ask that we give up everything for His sake. We often think of Jesus as a teacher and a sacrificial lamb, yet forget that He is also the judge who will come back to judge mankind. Like the disciples, we follow Him to learn of the Kingdom of Heaven, but also because He holds the keys to eternal life.
©2010 David C Cook. All rights reserved

To my homosexual friends: May we all overcome temptation and be ‘ONE’ in Christ! What is the ‘fury fire’ that Piper Perabo talks about? How can it be tamed? What is God’s true perspective in “The Homosexuals Will Arise” prophecy and what does Romans 1 really say?

Ever since I got this prophecy in October of 2001, The Homosexuals Will Arise, I’ve had a soft heart for the homosexuals, those who are caught in this sin. I took off whatever ‘Baptist glasses’ I had. God helped me see more through His eyes what is going on.

The Homosexuals Will Arise

The homosexuals will arise. They have been hurt so badly in their heart. They are not the enemy. They are full of hurt, and are looking for a way out.

You can help if you don’t judge. Don’t criticize; show them the way through your smile. They are not worse than you, just unforgiven. They have a long way to go, but are not weird, as some would say. Do not mock. Lift them up. Give them space to watch.

Pray with them when you get a chance, but until then be slow. Their hearts are brittle, hardened by sin that has often been done unto them, not of their own accord. Have grace and Mercy, not judgment, or pain will come to you both, and alienation from the things of God, the life I can give.

It can happen. Love can start with you. It just takes one. Find it and run, run with arms outstretched, praying as you go, praying in tongues a lot. Don’t hold back. This is a precious gift. Use it now; it is for you to be free, to be built up in the might of My Spirit. Pray often, and do not faint. Do not let the world take control. I have overcome the world. You will too, if you walk in My steps, living a life of love.

God says homosexuals are not weird. They are just caught in a sin that is different, which is also similar to heterosexual lust, which many of the judgmental ‘Christians’ are also stuck in (whether it’s actually doing it with a person or just thinking it. And it is actually worse to do it with someone than just think about it). But both same and opposite-sex lust will put us in the who-doesn’t-go-to-heaven lists. See especially what Galatians 5 says in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

There is this critical spirit especially in the country western listening, evangelical community that homosexuals are the problem in America — along with al Qaeda. But it’s willfully sinning ‘Christians‘ who are the main problem in America: The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? The believers, not the non-believers, have opened the gate to sin, which is why this country has deteriorated.

All lusters are going to Hell unless we repent. And we need to get the plank (heterosexual lust, for example) before we can see clearly enough to take the speck (homosexual lust) out of our neighbor’s eye.

How’s that? I think this is actually how we are supposed to read this verse? Who knows what these dear people have gone through, often even at a young age, not of their own accord.

My heart is that we will all be one, truly in Christ, free from all kinds of lusts — and that those of who haven’t succumbed to this same-sex sin will not treat those who have any differently than those who have succumbed to opposite-sex lust.

People look at Romans 1 and put homosexuals in this worst-person category. But lets take another look at Romans 1:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known of God is revealed in them, for God revealed it to them. 20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse. 21 Because, knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator [worshiping, lusting after the opposite or same-sex and not really worshiping God in Spirit or in truth – editor], who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions. For their women changed the natural function into that which is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men doing what is inappropriate with men, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error.

28 Even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, malice [desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another — James-3 cursing – editor]; full of envy, murder [“he who hates his brother” — James-3 cursing – editor], strife, deceit, evil habits, secret slanderers, 30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent [presumptuous and insulting in manner or speech; arrogant — I know pastors who are this way & ‘Christians’ who comment at this website — editor], haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.

I think there are two clear points here unlike what is commonly taught. First, when homosexuality is rampant in a society it says a lot about the morality of the entire society in general. Rampant homosexuality is a key sign of a fallen society.

Secondly, every adjective I underlined i the last paragraph is true of many heterosexual ‘Christians’ whom I know, especially pastors, who are especially prone to James-3 curse those they see as their enemy: Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable”

Instead of holding as a standard the scriptures that are in the header at the top of this page — so we will then achieve this standard, the feel-good remedy that is popular in most evangelical churches today is to accept the “I’m okay; you’re okay” once-saved-always-saved, false, eternal security doctrine — so then we all go to heaven anyway, regardless of what the Bible says in so many texts, including Romans 1, above.

Most ‘Christians’ today fit somewhere in the Romans 1:28-32, “worthy of death” list as well as the many scriptures in my Who-Goes study that clearly show who will not go to heaven. Though, is it fair to say that many, if not most ‘Christians’ don’t see themselves in Romans 1 at all, because the teaching in American pulpits has not been really Biblical or Spirit-led.

All lusters are in trouble, period — as well as those who hate others, wish people evil; secret slanderers; have strife, deceit; are unforgiving, unmerciful.

We must repent, having mercy on all people.

Who is going to get the greater judgment: homosexuals or pastors who won’t get right with those they’ve hurt?

The Bible says that spiritual teachers will get a stricter judgment!

I’m trying to put this into perspective so that ‘Christians’ will be more merciful towards homosexuals and that homosexuals will have great hope! The homosexuals will arise!!! FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———-DOM!!!!!!!

Bless you!!! And that has mainly been my heart in why I’ve written this. Personally, I don’t want anyone to think that I wouldn’t accept you just as I would if you had not fallen into this sin.

If therefore the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.

You can be free from homosexual sin just like opposite-sex lusters can be free from heterosexual sin. You don’t have to walk in guilt any longer. And we better not put any guilt on you either for what you did in the past that is now forgiven completely!!! If we do, slap us.

I’ve already tried to address this before, particularly here:

[Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because freedom lies straight ahead!

I was trying to show that both heterosexual and homosexual lust is demon driven — that when people feel a powerful attraction to a person sexually, it’s demon driven. The fact that it’s demon driven is good news because when totally repent, 100% cold turkey, then the lust demons can’t affect us. We can be 100.00% free — no matter what we’ve done.

And we need to have Spirit-filled churches led by Spirit-filled people, which will be our sanctuary.

Some people can overcome without being a part of a great church, but many need the body of Christ to truly be the body of Christ. We can all be ONE, experiencing His glory till death do us part.

The willfully sinning leaders need to get out of the way and encourage those who are supposed to lead, so they can lead us into holiness.

And in the meantime, some of us can just get holy to then help bring in this bigger thing that has been prophesied. Then we’ll have the Third Great Awakening.

Having said all of this, I wanted to include this quote, transcribed by me from this video interview of Piper Perabo, which I don’t recommend most people watch because of some of the images — though I didn’t have a problem with them.

Piper was in a same-sex movie, Lost and Delirious, which she talks about here:

“It didn’t occur to me when I read the script that it would be a controversy. … I feel like we’re past that. I hope that we are. From my eyes we are. You love who you love, you know. And especially when people love so strong. It’s like how can you deny them that kind of…. I mean there is no denying that kind fury fire.”

I’m trying to give homosexuals hope — really big hope that you can be totally, 100% free from homosexual and heterosexual lust.

And heterosexuals can be free from lust too. There really isn’t that much difference. The source of the power (the addiction) is the same.

My contention is that this kind of fury fire that you may have felt is furious because it’s demonic. It may feel really good (a high like a drug — dopamine, actually), like there is no denying it, but the fire part of this lust comes from giving into sinful sexual desire in which lust demons are ready and waiting to take you to Cloud 9 — though you know it’s wrong and you feel guilty all of the time.

And we can be free now, and have right relationships within marriage that aren’t sinful or demon driven. Though there can be demon driven lust inside marriage too.

And some of us are single and don’t like it at all, but it wouldn’t be so bad if real Christianity was happening and we could bask in the glory of God.

It will be so easy to NOT sin when ONE happens. But until then, many of us can live pure and clean anyway. And those of us who do can help ONE to happen!

Power to the peaceful — the power to overcome sin and live together as ONE!

Jeff Fenske
Anchorage, Alaska
ToBeFree!
ONEcanhappen!

Related:

Against Masturbation: “Men rob themselves of the very essence and energy that fuel their lives and protect their health”

When Sin Looks Delicious: TAKE THE BLAME for wanting to sin; RESIST Satan; RESOLVE that you will not sin; GIVE THANKS for Jesus’ enabling grace

(video) Seattle Gay Pridefest Turns Violent; Street Preachers Get Attacked — What Would Jesus Do?

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT” — Includes my dream of being in danger of going to hell just for lusting while watching TV

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: Many Challenge the Authority of the Word Despite its Clarity — “When the Scriptures contradict our feelings and preferences, RATHER THAN crucify our feelings and preferences and BOW DOWN BEFORE GOD and His Word, WE QUESTION GOD’S WORD”

[science] Why is Lust Addictive? — SEX increases dopamine by 200 units (1/6 the height of a METH euphoria)

The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? The believers, not the non-believers, have opened the gate to sin, which is why this country has deteriorated

Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!

A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls)

[Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because freedom lies straight ahead!

[Lust Freedom!] As Cautiously as Folding Our Own Parachute — “We ought to think out each step with the same kind of rationale and determination that a man uses when he folds his own parachute. Small, careful decisions can save his life. 5 minutes of pleasure earned Esau the loss of a lifetime of blessing and the enmity of God. Is it worth it?”

Joel Osteen: Homosexuals Get Into Heaven [But ‘Christians’ keep in mind that lusting HETEROsexuals WON’T INHERIT the kingdom either. We must all be holy so we can all be ONE!]

Wes Hall: It’s Not Just Porn! “You’re asking for power and there are areas of hidden compromise in your life. … I’m not talking about the R-rated movies. I’m talking about the PG-13s … certain sitcoms, TV shows where your spirit is being defiled.”

[ video ] David Icke with Alex Jones In-studio First Time!: The Royal Families Illuminati, Pedophilia, Murdering Past

The Homosexual Guild in D.C.: “They’re outing their white, male straights.”

Blackmail: How The Controlling Elite Owns Politicians — Almost every one of them has some dark secret that they can be blackmailed over if they fail to follow the Washington consensus.

[ video – full unedited ] Former Marine Colonel’s Wife: Sleeping With The Enemy — Kay Griggs Talks About Sexual Perversion Deep Within the Highest Levels of U.S. Military and Government, Military Assassin Squads, Drug Running, and Illegal Weapon Deals — “Why are Good People Silent?”

Madonna Fully Aware She’s Promoting Homosexuality

General Motors Psy-Op Ad Castrates Men By Using Feminism

“Reflections And Warnings: An Interview With Aaron Russo” – Entire Film – Aaron explains how the elite created the women’s liberation movement to break up the family and tax working women

Sandusky Part of Illuminati Pedophile Network

[NBC 1989] Call Boys Take Midnight Tour of Reagan/Bush White House

Retired FBI Chief Ted Gunderson: SATANISM & THE CIA — “The CIA is the most evil organization in the history of the world. They’re involved in kidnapping kids, international drug trafficking. They’re assassinating people….” | 50-60,000 human sacrifices per year in America!

Age of consent should be lowered to 13 to stop persecution of old men, says top barrister

[ video ] “Conspiracy of Silence”: The program that many compromised (and now blackmailable) Republicans don’t want you to see. It is the story of a cancer at the heart of America and its continuing cover-up at the highest level!

John DeCamp discusses the Franklin Cover-up: “The biggest monster I’ve ever encountered!”

Ted Gunderson: Many of our congressmen and senators have been blackmailed through children, sex and drugs…”and we don’t have enough people like Kucinich and Ron Paul to stand up.”

Invisible Empire Sneak Peek #4 — Call Boy Rings Exposed. “Many of us believe that our leaders are in fact Christian conservatives with our best interest at heart…” | But WE must have INTEGRITY no matter what.

[Video] Insider: Pedophilia Among America’s Leaders — Including ‘Conservative’ Republican Presidents?

Pedophilia in the White House — Interview with John DeCamp (Nebraska State Senator)

[WordPOWER] Jesus on Salvation (Mt. 7:13,14): “NARROW is the gate and DIFFICULT is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW who find it.”

Jesus

(Matthew 7:13, 14 NKJV)

_____

“Enter by the narrow gate;

for wide is the gate and broad is the way
that leads to destruction,
and there are many who go in by it.

Because narrow is the gate
and difficult is the way which leads to life,
and there are few who find it.”

Related:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Survey of Christian Men on the Subject of Women’s Clothing — Men responded: “This area is the greatest challenge in my life!” • “Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight.” • “Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing!” • Many more…

This questionnaire is directly related to my article: The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy — which includes Jesus’ Dress Code from my Let Us Be ONE prophecy.

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A comment from the article:

“I know many women say, ‘Well, that’s their problem, not mine!’ But while we men will answer for our lust, the ladies will answer for doing something that causes another to fall into sin.”

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This really is a big deal because heart-adultery keeps us from abiding in Christ. Lust is clearly a salvation issue! See also: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Jesus in Matthew 5:

27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Paul in Galatians 5 and 6:

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

6:7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

From: wayoflife.org

SURVEY OF CHRISTIAN MEN ON THE SUBJECT OF WOMEN’S CLOTHING

Updated August 6, 2008 (first published May 1, 2007) (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org …) –

This article is from the author’s book, “Dressing from the Lord,” which is available from Way of Life Literature. It can be ordered via the online catalog or by phone or e-mail (866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org).
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I sent out a notice to the Fundamental Baptist Information Service e-mail list and asked the following question of the men on the list who are members of fundamentalist and independent Baptist churches:

“In your opinion, which of the following items of female dress cause a real potential for lust?”

short skirts tight skirts slit skirts long skirts with slits to the knees sleeveless blouses low cut blouses and dresses tight blouses sheer blouses T-shirts V-neck dresses form-fitting jeans looser-fitting pants shorts one piece bathing suits …

My objective in this is to help girls and women in strong Bible-believing churches to understand how men think, not only men in the world or men in churches in general but men in the very churches that they attend.

I received a flood of response to this survey. In just one day I received well over 100 responses from men ages 24 to 74 and from many parts of the world, and that was on a weekend, and they are still coming in a week and a half later. This tells me that there is a readiness on the part of men to let women understand how they see this issue.

As you will see, the responses were very earnest. The men are discouraged that lust is such a powerful temptation in their lives, and they admitted that it is so. Some of the men literally begged me to tell the women that their manner of dress is important and that they need to understand how men look at things.

One man wrote: “Thank you for this request. This area is the greatest challenge in my life — in all honesty to a brother-in-the-Blood.” …

Most of the men observed that their response to a woman’s immodest dress depends on their spiritual condition and acknowledged that they have a responsibility before God not to lust after women regardless of how they are dressed.

For example, one man said: “Men are sight oriented creatures. The Lord has so equipped men to be sexually stimulated visually. … Men must govern their own hearts.”

Another man said: “My response to immodesty is often dependent on the environment, situation and my spiritual defense mechanism at a particular moment. If I have had a wonderful prayer time and clothed myself with all the spiritual armor, I am usually just about OK for anything. But more often then I would like it, I am not prepared or I am in a vulnerable situation; then I better run for my dear life (Gen. 39:12).” …

Many of the men also observed that this is a heart issue. The following statement by a pastor is typical of those made by many others:

“I believe the most important issue in female modesty is the issue of a chaste heart. If the woman desires to please her Saviour and honor her brother in Christ, there is seldom an issue with the clothing she wears. Mandating modest clothing without focusing on creating a chaste heart does little good. If the woman wears ‘modest’ clothing but is sensual in the way she walks or conducts herself, it will invariably cause a man to lust. I don’t need to see skin to cause me to lust. We men have pretty good imaginations.”

As to the individual items of dress, the men made the following points:

First of all, many of the men replied that all of the aforementioned female dress styles hold a real potential for lust. The following two statements were typical:

“I believe that ALL you had listed cause a ‘potential’ for lust.”

“I think that ALL of the listed items can cause lust. The bottom line for me is that anything that is form fitting, exposing, sheer, or clinging to a woman is immodest and can cause men to lust.” …

CONSIDER SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE MEN:

[These are just some of the quotes listed in the article. I normally do, but did not here use ellipses to indicate where statements were cut – editor]

“I do believe most women just do not know how men think. Period. I believe that there is a whole segment, group, class of women, who, if they really understood men, would change their dress code, because they do want to please God. Not all women, by far, but some would. They just need to understand it’s not just a list of do’s and don’ts set forth to force them in to ‘frumpiness,’ but a desire of godly men to gain their cooperation in helping them NOT lust, and to not be stumbling blocks, because they just want to please God.”

“MANY WOMEN, USUALLY YOUNGER, DRESS TO ATTRACT MEN AND DO NOT KNOW HOW DANGEROUS IT TRULY CAN BE FOR THEM. … I am a retired criminal investigator and worked criminal work for 17 1/2 years of my career. I think many homicides and serious physical assaults in addition to the obvious sex crimes are brought about by immodest dress and any born again Christian woman should never dress as such. A sexual predator can be turned on and be as dangerous as a hand grenade with the pin pulled by a women that has the one turn on factor for his mind (which is a variable with such criminals) which could be any of the listed ways of dressing.”

“I have to admit some of the dresses that are worn even though the dress hits the floor, and some of the blouses, even though it goes all the way to the neck, are very form fitting. I don’t think that women are out to stumble the men of the church, and nor am I saying that women need to walk around in sacks. There are sometimes when a lady is doing a special music or something that I have to look away that I may not stumble. In summation I think that all of the clothing you have listed that is form fitting and shows the curves of a woman is a real potential for lust.”

“I am a 24-year-old, unmarried man. I am very glad that you are asking us men about this issue, because it has been my experience that women truly do not understand the things that can run through a man’s head when he sees an immodestly-dressed woman. For a God-fearing man, this is a true concern. Fashionable clothing is not, as far as I can tell, designed by God-fearing Christians with any interest in modesty. Sex sells, and sexy clothing sells. … I have talked to women I know about the dress issue and told them that when they wear certain things, no matter how ‘covered up’ they may be, the fit of the clothing still makes a huge difference. Some women have told me that it is a man’s fault for having such a dirty mind or for letting it get to a point where lust becomes a problem, but the fact is men seem specifically prone to these types of thoughts. In North American culture we are inundated with sex. Everywhere we look there is a provocatively dressed (or practically undressed) woman selling something, and I think that women (and men) need to seriously consider the way they dress and how it affects members of the opposite sex. The last place I want to have to worry about lust is in my church. AS CHRISTIANS, IT IS NOT OUR PLACE TO SAY, ‘WELL, I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY MEN CAN’T LOOK AT ME DRESSED LIKE THIS AND NOT BATTLE WITH LUSTING THOUGHTS.’ INSTEAD, WE NEED TO TAKE IT FOR TRUTH WHEN A PERSON OF THE OPPOSITE SEX INFORMS US THAT OUR DRESS IS CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THEM, AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PROTECT OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM STUMBLING.”

“All men are aroused in one way or the other over revealed flesh. That is exactly why these clothes are made this way. I know some men are more easily aroused than others but normally any man is naturally inclined (by our sinful nature) to take notice of a woman wearing any garment that is revealing flesh. I THINK IT IS A SHAME TO COME TO CHURCH AFTER A WEEK IN THIS EVIL WORLD AND WANT TO ENJOY A SERVICE OF WORSHIP AND PRAISE TO THE LORD AND FELLOWSHIP AMONG SEPARATED PEOPLE AND SEE WOMEN DRESSING LIKE THE WORLD AND WHEN YOU CONFRONT THEM ABOUT THIS YOU ALWAYS GET THE SAME OLD LINE ‘WELL IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, YOU’VE GOT THE PROBLEM.’ Well, I always wonder why a woman who loves the Lord and wants to please the Lord would want to dress like the world and have men looking at her in a carnal way. When I see a woman in a store in town and she is dressed a certain conservative way, I always think, ‘I bet she is a Christian.’ IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF A WOMAN WHEN SHE SHUNS THE STYLES OF THIS WORLD AND WALKS IN SUCH A WAY THAT SHE WANTS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT SHE IS DIFFERENT.”

“I am 55 years old and I am BROKENHEARTED over the dress of a great number of females in the churches I visit. Oh, if I could only talk to moms and dads. I have never been married but lived in the world many years. I beg you, preacher, tell them that wearing ANYTHING that draws attention to a particular area, accentuating ANY form or flesh, is a great distraction for me. Please, stop wearing TIGHT clothing, exposing flesh, and wearing articles of clothing with writing on them. How many times have I had to turn my eyes away, or worry, did I look too long, did somebody notice me looking? I wish I could talk to a group of women and just tell them, because I know many don’t really realize what a distraction it is. [Surely] they don’t want the brethren to sin. I can’t believe how some of these young girls dress. Don’t they know the things we cherish, we must protect. I don’t care about peer pressure; clothing is an opportunity to share your faith when people see a difference. Remember that man and (wo)man looks at the outward appearance. We have to be separated and yes a ‘PECULIAR’ people. Men are tempted and aroused by the things they SEE. David was tempted when he SAW Bathsheba; Herod was tempted when he SAW Salome dance; when Samson ‘saw a women in Timnath,’ he wanted her because her looks ‘pleased’ him.”

“I travel a bit, and as I’m walking through a crowded airport looking around, I tend more to notice things like short skirts, skirts or dresses with slits that come to or above the knee, low-cut blouses or dresses, sheer blouses, or tight-fitting anything. Clothing that accentuates or draws attention to one part of the body seems more noticeable to me. I believe that clothing absolutely can draw attention to the woman’s body and that once attention is there, the potential, perhaps even likelihood, for lust isn’t far behind.”

“From what I see in the way many woman and teens dress, Christians included, many act like they are ‘for sale’ or are very ignorant of what they are doing to their image. That’s the way I see things on this issue.”

“The more skin I see, the more I have to force myself to look away from that individual. It brings back the past [before I was saved]. It seems like some women flaunt their bodies. What they are saying by their clothes, ‘Don’t look at my face, look at my body!’ … I am all for modesty and I wish all churches had a dress code. Not just in church but also out of church. Skin is a distraction! More skin; more sin.”

“I agree with you about the lack of understanding from most women about the male weakness in the area of lust. The average Christian woman today seems to think, ‘If you’ve got it, flaunt it.’ I actually had one woman who used to be in my church saying that. … God’s final act of creation was His most beautiful. A normal man would agree with this. This sets us apart from the animal kingdom. In animals the male is the most attractive. The female is often rather dowdy. Humans are reversed. … A godly woman can dress attractively and properly by following a few simple thoughts. Do the clothes she is wearing draw a man’s eyes to her face or to her other body parts? Is the clothing she is wearing obviously feminine and modest and not made for men?”

“All of those items of female dress cause a real potential for lust. WHY SHOULD A MAN HAVE TO BATTLE WITH LUST DURING A CHURCH SERVICE WHEN IT IS HARD ENOUGH JUST TO WALK IN A WORLD FULL OF SENSUALITY? IF WOMEN ONLY KNEW THE SNARE OF TEMPTATION THAT IS SET BEFORE OUR EYES. Even if it is a fraction of a second and a man turns his head away, the battle can still rage in the mind just from a mere glimpse. I honestly believe that many of them know exactly what they are doing. Why else would they dress like the rebellious world?”

“It seems the last few years as the churches have grown more liberal and the women show more skin, I HAVE TO FIGHT HARDER TO KEEP MY MIND STRAIGHT. I am happily married. I do not and will not stray. … I wish women could just take the Bible for what it says. Yes, the Lord made us men this way. … I think the most beautiful thing God created on this earth is a woman, and Satan knows it to. That is just the way I feel.”

“Almost all of the styles you listed serve to in some way accentuate, reveal, or tantalize the senses of men. Men are very liable to visual temptation. Even Job realized that (Job 31:1). The Psalmist did, too (Psa. 101:3). The ladies need to know that there is a need to have a heart of modesty that will give them the desire to strengthen and honor their brothers in Christ. If that happens, modesty will be a matter of heart and dress, and not simply a legalistic issue.”

“In my personal opinion, I think the styles that expose the bosom or the tight form of the bosom present the majority of the problem because it is more accepted to show that area in our society as opposed to the upper thigh or lower buttocks.”

“My wife was taught as a little girl that all attention should be drawn to her face, and that rule has been a great guideline.”

“I am certainly not proud to have to say that all of the above items of clothing on women cause a real potential for lust, but for me it is the case. OF ALL OF MY CLOSE BROTHERS IN THE LORD WHOM I HAVE TALKED WITH ON THIS SUBJECT OVER TIME, ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THEY STRUGGLE WITH LUST; and it is so few women, at least where I am, that dress modestly or even have a single clue that there is a Biblical instruction for them to do so. I am so thankful for my Pastor’s wife (they are new here and have planted a new Church in my city) and her decision to dress modestly.”
“Maybe I just have a problem with lust, but I know my own heart. There is no godly, good reason that I should ever see from ‘the neck to the knees’ of any woman other than my wife.”

“IT IS AMAZING TO ME THAT HUSBANDS, FATHERS, ETC., WOULD ALLOW THEIR WOMEN OUT IN PUBLIC WEARING SOME OF THE THINGS WOMEN WEAR. Have they no idea the thoughts of other men? Shame on them.”

“If such things draw the attention of normal, godly, Christian men, by definition they are immodest, no matter what the women think.”

“I don’t know how women can ‘not’ know the impact their dress has on men. In fact I believe they do (more than they say or let on). One thing I see in my church is tight clothing. Oh, it may very well be covering but it is revealing the shape in a woman. This can be even more tantalizing to a man. I once was at a conference and the preacher asked a very strong Christian couple (wife modestly dressed) who do you dress for (question to the wife) and she said her husband. The preacher and the congregation gave their amens. I thought about that answer and it was an answer I would have wanted my wife to give until to a few years before. Now she knows I would want her to dress for the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. I have the potential to be carnal, and in the flesh and to want to see her in less modest apparel. That would never be the case with our Lord. Thus I told her to dress for Jesus Christ.”

“Thank you for addressing this serious problem. I agree that most Christian women do not seem to understand how that the way they dress affects men. Unfortunately, some do understand and they enjoy dressing in a way that attracts the attention of men. … We are living in the last part of the last days. Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing. ONE SIGN OF DEMON ACTIVITY IS NUDITY AND LEWD DRESS. MEN RESPOND BY SIGHT. Sight arouses their sexual drive. Anything that exposes highlights or outlines the torso and thigh is lustful dress. The Word of God is clear that a man who lusts after a woman is guilty of adultery along with her. I told my people last Sunday that if the women dress inappropriately and go to town, causing four men to look and lust, they will be held accountable for participating in committing adultery.” [Demons absolutely do empower lust: Demons absolutely do empower lust, and this is how it works – editor]

“As a man, a Christian, and a pastor, I believe modesty is perhaps the most important issue in dress, whether among the church or otherwise, because, I’M TELLING YOU, MEN NOTICE, MEN LOOK, AND MEN LUST, EVEN THE GOOD ONES. I know many women say, ‘Well, that’s their problem, not mine!’ But while we men will answer for our lust, the ladies will answer for doing something that causes another to fall into sin. Ladies, understand, your dress DOES effect us, and as such, you should prayerful consider what you wear. Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight–so when we see a lady, pretty, or sometimes not, we are stimulated by the sight of their flesh. It’s just the way we are.”

Entire Article Here

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These are quotes by Francis Chan, probably all taken from chapter 4 of Crazy Love. I’m listening to the wonderful audio version, read by Francis, himself!
I thought Francis’ lukewarm list to be so exceptional that I’d share some of his points with you even if I had to transcribe them myself. Thankfully, I don’t have to.
This is my favorite:

Lukewarm people are moved by stories about people who do radical things for Christ, yet they do not act. They assume such action is for “extreme” Christians, not average ones. Lukewarm people call “radical” what Jesus expected of all His followers.

We don’t want to be among those whom our perfectly holy Father whom we can TOTALLY trust spits out of His mouth having squandered away our inheritance (Rev. 3:14-22). We want to safely and JOYFULLY rest in Him!
Life in the Son!

jeff

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaidsEzynWw]Ch 4 – Crazy Love by Francis Chan

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Excerpts from: markartrip.wordpress.com, emphasis mine

LUKEWARM PEOPLE-FRANCIS CHAN

3. Lukewarm people tend to choose what is popular over what is right when they are in conflict. They desire to fit in both at church and outside of church; they care more about what people think of their actions (like church attendance and giving) than what God thinks of their hearts and lives (Luke 6:26; Rev. 3:1; Matthew 23:5-7).

4.  Lukewarm people don’t really want to be saved from their sin; they want only to be saved from the penalty of their sin. They don’t genuinely hate sin and aren’t truly sorry for it; they’re merely sorry because God is going to punish them. Lukewarm people don’t really believe that this new life Jesus offers is better than the old sinful one (John 10:10; Romans 6:1-2).

5.  Lukewarm people are moved by stories about people who do radical things for Christ, yet they do not act. They assume such action is for “extreme” Christians, not average ones. Lukewarm people call “radical” what Jesus expected of all His followers (James 1:22; James 4:17; Matthew 21:28-31).

8.  Lukewarm people say they love Jesus, and He is, indeed, a part of their lives. But only a part. They give Him a section of their time, their money, and thoughts, but He isn’t allowed to control their lives (Luke 9:57-62).

9.  Lukewarm people love God, but they do not love Him with all their heart, soul, and strength. They would be quick to assure you that they try to love God that much, but that sort of total devotion isn’t really possible for the average person; it’s only for pastors and missionaries and radicals (Matthew 22:37-38).

10.  Lukewarm people love others but do not seek to love others as much as they love themselves. Their love of others is typically focused on those who love them in return, like family, friends, and other people they know and connect with. There is little love left over for those who cannot love them back, much less for those who intentionally slight them, whose kids are better athletes than theirs, or with whom conversations are awkward or uncomfortable. Their love is highly conditional and very selective, and generally comes with strings attached (Matthew 5:43-47; Luke 14:12-14).

15.  Lukewarm people are continually concerned with playing it safe; they are slaves to the god of control. This focus on safe living keeps them from sacrificing and risking for God (1 Timothy 6:17-18; Matthew 10:28).

16.  Lukewarm people feel secure because they attend church, made a profession of faith at age twelve, were baptized, come from a Christian family, vote Republican, or live in America. Just as the prophets in the Old Testament warned Israel that they were not safe just because they lived in the land of Israel, so we are not safe just because we wear the label Christian or because some people persist in calling us a “Christian nation” (Matthew 7:21; Amos 6:1)

Entire Article Here
Related:
Francis Chan Freedom Quotes!
Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God at Amazon [paperback, Kindle, and audio editions]
Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

[video] 2 Tests: Can you see the difference between what Francis Chan taught vs what he now teaches about salvation? | Can you see the 3D horse at 15:50?

More of Francis’ current teaching on salvation can be seen in the links at the end of this post.

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Francis Chan
05/02/10

Conditional Security

[Teaching the true-freedom truth
just before leaving Cornerstone
with clean hands!

Notice how much happier
he now really is!]

See the 3D horse at 15:50[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUoPsNfiu8E]Salvation by Francis Chan

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Compare above message to
what Francis spoke
2.5 years earlier

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Francis Chan
11/04/07

Unconditional Security

[This is actually diabolical —
the greatest deception,
leading so many astray and ruining America.

This is probably some of what Francis was trying to undo
in the message above —
so he could be clean
and so he could see many of them in heaven.]

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6HJGzA7dNM]Francis Chan – GRACE GRACE GRACE

Related:
Francis Chan’s ‘Last Sermon’ — There will be no cowards in heaven
Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”
Francis Chan Freedom Quotes!
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

Dan Corner: What's wrong with today's gospel — Eternal security is false, no matter how popular! Actual audio quotes from big name teachers

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sbZYcRE-Fs]What’s wrong with today’s gospel Pt 1 (Eternal Security is false) No once saved always saved

Uploaded by on Mar 28, 2008

http://www.dancorner.com

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/eternal-security.htm
Dan Corner exposes and refutes the false gospel and counterfeit grace of eternal security. Hear actual audio quotes from big name teachers and a sound biblical refutation of the devil’s lie of once saved always saved aka eternal security
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ydu-yPPT0w]
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyZBZrLdX4]
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(video) Dan Corner: True Grace Vs False Grace — Charles Stanley’s security in sin: “You cannot out-sin the grace of God” Vs Jesus: “He who endures to the end will be saved”
 
(video) Dan Corner: Prodigal Son — “My son was dead, and is alive again! He was lost, and is found!”
 
(cartoon) The Prodigal Son
 
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John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake for Having Doctrinal Differences — His Ashes Cry Out!
 
(audio) Dan Corner: The parable of the sower — “Bringing forth fruit is a salvation issue”
 
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Father of Calvinism, Augustine’s Prayer To Mary For His Salvation

[Biblically disqualified to lead] Chuck Missler laughs about his intentional lie — Has eternal security seared his conscience? Dan Corner thinks so.

Could it be that once-saved-always-saved
is at least partially searing church leaders’ consciences?

Is this why these grace changers won’t repent,
and won’t get right with those they’ve hurt,
believing their own lie —
a doctrine of demons?

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATaCt9IgwqA]CHUCK MISSLER EXPOSED Eternal Security Conscience Seared Liars

Uploaded by on Aug 26, 2009

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/chuck_missler.htm Powerful and shocking expose of Chuck Missler, a very popular teacher of our dark day. Check the web site for much more info refuting the false gospel and counterfeit grace message of eternal security.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com

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This grace changing, false teacher at work,
saying the statement Corner addresses above,
and that the alternative to ES is to be under the law.

Hogwash:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_zEGJoE_Q]Eternal Security

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[WordPOWER] Jesus: Where ‘all liars’ go (pastors included) — Revelation 21:8

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

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