(video) Pat Robertson To Woman with Cheating Husband: ‘Well, He’s a Man. Males Have a Tendency to Wander’

This reminds me of: When Billy Graham laughed to minimize Bill Clinton’s adultery

I understand that Pat puts this as a past sin, but the way he says it he also puts it in the continuing present: “He cheated on you, well, he’s a man. … Males have a tendency to wander a little bit. … Think of the temptations that are out there.”

It sounds like he’s enabling and making excuses for the husband to continue to willfully sin in this incredibly serious way as if he, himself has this mindset.

Jesus, Paul and John would have never made excuses for sexual sin. They would call the husband to serious repentance, warning him that otherwise, he can’t be a real, going-to-heaven Christian — let alone what this does to his wife and family — and others.

Spiritual leaders like these are a big reason why the church is mostly no longer Jesus’ bride. Pat is clearly Biblically disqualified to lead. See my links, below.

This is awful — and disgusting!

jeff

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WATCH HERE

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Pat Robertson To Woman with Cheating Husband: Get Over It, He’s a Man

Pat Robertson’s tells woman whose husband cheated to remember that “he’s a man” and to be grateful that she lives in America.

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Loose transcription from MSNBC

Stop talking about the cheating! He cheated on you, well, he’s a man. So what you do is begin to focus on why you married him in the first place, on what he does good. Does he provide a home for you to live in, does he provide food for you to eat, does he provide clothes for you to wear, is he nice to the children, do you have a happy family, does he take your kids to sporting events, does he go out and watch their Little League games, does he share with you stuff that’s going on…is he handsome? Start focusing on those things and essentially fall in love with him all over again.

I recommend you reach out and touch him, touch his face—touch his face—hold his hand, look into his eyes, talk to him, you’re praying oh God, teach me to not hate him when he was with that stripper in that hotel room 10 years ago and I’ll never forgive him kind of thing please –so what are you focusing on? You’re focusing on the thing that makes you mad. Stop that. Start focusing on the good stuff. He must have something good or you wouldn’t have married him.

So give him honor instead of worrying about it. But recognize also, like it or not, males have a tendency to wander a little bit and what you want to do is make a home so wonderful that he doesn’t want to wander. Think of the temptations that are out there, the internet is FILLED with pornography, the magazines are filled with salacious pictures of women. Anywhere you turn around there’s some solicitation to the senses to entice a man.

What you have to do is say, ‘My husband was captured and I want to get him free. But reach out and think of the good stuff. Begin to thank God that you have a marriage that is together and that you live in America and good things are happening.

WATCH HERE

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Pat Robertson Cheating Comments: ‘Males Have a Tendency to Wander’

Related:

Pat Robertson’s Deceptive Tithing Doctrine: ” an irreducible MINIMUM,” “ANTICIPATORY tithing”

Pat Robertson Advocates Israel Bombing Iran Before 2008 Election

Why is Pat Robertson Supporting Giuliani?

Pat Robertson Supports Torture? Who Would Jesus Torture?

Pat Robertson lies about his Chavez comments; claims he “didn’t say ‘ASSASSINATION’”

Pat Robertson Hides Business Interests In War-Torn Liberia

The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? The believers, not the non-believers, have opened the gate to sin, which is why this country has deteriorated

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Best And Worst Of 2008 — The Religious Right has become nothing more than a gaggle of glorified hacks for the Republican Party

When Billy Graham laughed to minimize Bill Clinton’s adultery

[Lust “the poison that kills the soul” FREEDOM] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because…

The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

[science] Why is Lust Addictive? — SEX increases dopamine by 200 units (1/6 the height of a METH euphoria)

Wes Hall: It’s Not Just Porn! “You’re asking for power and there are areas of hidden compromise in your life. … I’m not talking about the R-rated movies. I’m talking about the PG-13s … certain sitcoms, TV shows where your spirit is being defiled.”

The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

My God sent His angel and shut the lions’ mouths, so that they have not hurt me, BECAUSE I WAS FOUND INNOCENT before Him” – Daniel 6:22

May we also walk in INNOCENCE, 24/7.

“All things work together for good to those who” REALLY DO “love God” with all of their heart, soul, mind and strength — and their neighbors in Anchorage and in Syria as much as they love themselves.

Life in the Son realized!!!

To be free!

ShutLionsMouthsBecauseInnocent

My God sent His angel and shut the lions’ mouths,
so that they have not hurt me, because I was found innocent before Him.”
– Daniel 6:22

The Haters: Can Jealous People Go To Heaven?

Gal. 5:13-6:10

13 For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don’t use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, be careful that you don’t consume one another. 16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one other, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, JEALOUSIES, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things WILL NOT INHERIT the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, KINDNESS, goodness, faithfulness, 23 GENTLENESS, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 THOSE WHO BELONG TO CHRIST have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. 25 If we live by the Spirit, let’s also walk by the Spirit. …

6:7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Let us not be weary in doing good, for we will reap in due season, if we don’t give up. 10 So then, as we have opportunity, let’s do what is good toward all men, and especially toward those who are of the household of the faith.

Related:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

“Don’t believe everything you hear — even if it’s from the pulpit”

Don'tBelieveEverythingFromThePulpit

“Don’t believe everything you hear —
even if it’s from the pulpit.”

Related:

Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it was PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”

[WordPOWER!] 2 Peter 3: BEWARE, in the LAST DAYS People Will Be WILLINGLY IGNORANT

Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!

Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable”

WordPOWER: The Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine

The Day that Tithing Ended — To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit

Gandhi: Widespread Belief Doesn’t Make an Error True

HeartQuotes: Truth — “A thing does not therefore cease to be true because it is not accepted by many” – Spinoza

“Truth … lies in the depth where few are willing to search for it.”

“It is easier to resist at the beginning of temptation than at the end”

This is a good one, because willfully giving into sin opens the door to demons to come in and then drive it — so it then seems impossible to stop.

“Submit to God; resist the Devil, and he will flee.”

Shut the door. Keep out the Devil = Freedom!!!

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“It is easier to resist at the beginning of temptation than at the end.”

– John Paul Jackson from his Facebook page

Related:

[Lust “the poison that kills the soul” FREEDOM] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because…

[science] Why is Lust Addictive? — SEX increases dopamine by 200 units (1/6 the height of a METH euphoria)

Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!

A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls)

Survey of Christian Men on the Subject of Women’s Clothing — Men responded: “This area is the greatest challenge in my life!” • “Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight.” • “Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing!” • Many more

The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

All of my Lust Freedom! posts [latest appear first, 10 posts per page]

Tozer: MASTERFUL PSYCHOLOGISTS, gifted salespersons LEAD CHURCHES which can “appear to prosper…WITHOUT ANY TOUCH FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT. ..the dear people will not know anything better until the great and terrible day when our self-employed talents are burned with fire and only what was wrought by the Holy Spirit will stand.”

“Much of church activity and fellowship also falls back upon the practice of psychology. Many church leaders are masterful psychologists. They know how to handle people and get the crowds to come. Their operation qualifies as an amazingly “successful” church. Part of the success of that church depends on people with business talents and part of it depends on people with natural gifts as salespersons and politicians.

A Christian congregation can survive and often appear to prosper in the community by the exercise of human talent and without any touch from the Holy Spirit. But it is simply religious activity, and the dear people will not know anything better until the great and terrible day when our self-employed talents are burned with fire and only what was wrought by the Holy Spirit will stand.”

– Tozer, Tragedy in the Church: The Missing Gifts, 22-23

“Fasting is about CHOOSING voluntary WEAKNESS so that Christ may abound even more within us” – Mike Bickle

“Fasting is about CHOOSING
voluntary WEAKNESS
so that Christ may
abound even more within us.”

– Mike Bickle

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Fasting_voluntary_weakness

Related:

FASTING with Prayer in the Early Church: What the New Testament really says — Fasting isn’t only to calm the flesh and draw near to God. Now there is even clinical evidence showing tremendous health benefits!

Study: Intermittent fasting promotes brain health — Fasting for one or two days each week is like ‘exercising your brain muscles’

How can we expect politicians and the NSA to not lie when pastors regularly do?

Yesterday, I thought about how the church has treated whistleblowers, setting the standard for how our government now does.

Snowdens Within the Church: Churches have set the unGodly precedent in how they handle WHISTLEBLOWERS — How can we expect our government to be lovers of the truth if churches aren’t?

Today, I’m pondering how we can expect politicians and NSA heads to not lie when pastors still do as confidence men, acting like everything is okay when they know it is not.

The worship services are dead, but they say how wonderful they are — when they fully know that God tangibly did move in the past, but really hasn’t been for many years now.

The pastors know what the solutions are. God has spoken to them directly and through others, but they don’t want to lose face. So they refuse to get right with those they’ve hurt so we can be ‘ONE,’ so God can move again. They won’t even teach Jesus’ clear, Matthew-5 teaching about reconciling.

So instead of teaching God’s goal for the church: Ephesians 4:11-16), they now teach once-saved-always-saved: “I’m okay; you’re okay” — even when their guilty consciences tell them otherwise.

We’re just going to keep going around the mountain while America continues to fall, until we are willing to do what the Holy Spirit has been specifically saying for decades now.

It’s time to repent. How much more evidence do we need. God is not mocked. He will continue to resist the proud, as He said He would, while LONGING to give grace to the humble.

And that GRACE will be AWESOME — “that the world will know” (John 17)!

jeff

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Related:

(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

[9-minute AMAZING video] Arrested in Iran, horrified missionary, Dan Baumann has VISION OF JESUS in jail, Whose love SETS HIM FREE TO LOVE his torturer, who leads others to Christ. Set free in his heart, God gives Dan TOTALLY HONEST words to speak at the trial for 20 minutes. And Dan was released from Iran too! — “God gave me the grace to stand up and speak the truth. And in doing so it brought freedom in my heart. I AM FREE!!!!!!!”

Study: LYING less may BOOST physical and mental HEALTH — “Americans average about 11 lies per week” — “When you find that you don’t lie, you have LESS STRESS.” — And we WON’T BE BANNED from HEAVEN!

Charisma Editor: An Asbury-like Spiritual Awakening is the “Only Thing That Will Save Us”

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”

Wes Hall to church leaders: “There’s a cry in your heart saying ‘I am not prepared to walk forward another step in dead works and dead religion”

REVIVAL at ASBURY College 1970–God Showed Up Big-Time!

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Better to Be a Poor Man than a Liar

(video – The MOST BEAUTIFUL SONG!) Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!

Ted Haggard: I’d still rather be the way I am now—broke, a man of disrepute—than have “that HORRIFIC INTERNAL STRUGGLE”

[Liars-will-be-found-out example. We must overcome to be free!] Mike Adams: Linguistic analysis of Rand Paul’s endorsement of Romney contradicts his words – Rand Paul is disgusted with him!

[ audio ] Parents stop lying to your kids about Santa Claus — “Look them in the eyes, beg forgiveness, because you’ve really been lying to them and setting them up….”

The Moody Blues: No More Lies

If we build it He will come:
“Let Us Be ONE” (A Prophecy)

All of my Lying posts at ToBeFree, including Why Do People Lie? Fear, Lack of Love & Greed

(video) Wise, Real-historian G. Edward Griffin: Taking America Back? — “We have to rediscover our humanity before it’s lost” — Guns won’t work. If Bonhoeffer had successfully killed Hitler, would someone just as bad replaced him?

I just wrote this on my Facebook page:

I’ve probably listened to this 3 or 4 times, and watched some of it too — partly to put together some of G. Edward’s thoughts for my post at ToBeFree, but also because I find Edward profound, and he’s such a great speaker and good guy! I have a lot of respect for him. He has been researching this for 50 years!

Edward doesn’t mention DIETRICH BONHOEFFER specifically, but he talks about the plot to kill Hitler at the very end of this broadcast [which seems to abruptly cut off, but more wasn’t actually said. I checked with the original].

I have always been impressed with Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s focus on the Sermon of the Mount, and his refusal to go along with Hitler when most of the pastors succumbed, but I’ve wondered if God really did lead him to try to kill Hitler. I think G. Edward is right. I don’t think it would have done any good had his group succeeded, and my guess is that the Holy Spirit didn’t actually lead Dietrich to attempt to assassinate Hitler, which ended with Bonhoeffer getting caught and executed.

Also, I personally believe it’s now too late to take America back. We missed our chance; though, we can still slow down the takeover, and live in the joy of the Lord, filled with the Spirit for the rest of our lives, no matter what happens:

‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”

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“We have to rediscover our humanity before it’s lost.”

Guns won’t work:
If Bonhoeffer had successfully killed Hitler, would someone just as bad replaced him? Himmler, for example?

“If you want to know what they will do, see what they have done when they have come to power. … See what Stalin did.”

~”Some of these people don’t think of themselves as scum. They think of themselves as intellectuals, the wise ones — because everyone else is too dumb, and they need their input.”

– Alex / Edward

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6-sM3O8x8Y]Taking America Back with G. Edward Griffin

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Published on Aug 7, 2013

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Related:

[BRILLIANT! Video] Real-Historian G. Edward Griffin: The Collectivist Conspiracy — How “the people of the United States have lost control of their own government”

G. Edward Griffin on Corporations and OWS — CORPORATIONS aren’t the problem. It’s the COURTS that gave the RIGHTS OF PEOPLE to the corporations, making the CORPORATIONS, not the PEOPLE within the corporations RESPONSIBLE for their own criminal acts. “If we want to solve the problems of the corporations today, we’ve got to BREAK THAT SHIELD, that barrier that legally PROTECTS the EVILDOERS within corporations.”

G. Edward Griffin: The difference between “free market capitalism” and “corporate monopoly capitalism” — what we have today

Real historian G. Edward Griffin: Universal Serfdom — “This marriage between corporations and government, that’s not CAPITALISM.” The people say ‘let’s occupy Wall Street,’ but then what are they going to do? “We need to GO FORWARD TO WHERE WE WERE 80 years ago.” TRUE CAPITALISM has been gone since WWII. ‘Capitalism’ today isn’t capitalism, no matter what mainstream media says.

Real historian G. Edward Griffin: Universal Serfdom, Part 2 — How the power elite have been using PROBLEM > REACTION > SOLUTION, playing the WAR card especially to bring us all into UNIVERSAL SERFDOM! — The tax exempt Rockefeller, Carnegie and Ford Foundations…

[VERY IMPORTANT – 33-minute audio] Real Historian G. Edward Griffin on ‘Coast to Coast AM’ 9/7/11: Exactly why our economy will never recover — Globalist bankster cartel will not give up control. Their ’15-20-year’ transitional plan towards their final one-world-currency goal.

How G. Edward Griffin saw through the matrix 50 years ago, realizing: “Maybe the history I was learning wasn’t entirely accurate?”

[Why Americans Won’t Listen Until It’s Too Late Video] How To Brainwash A Nation: G. Edward Griffin interviews former KGB agent — The 4 BASIC STEPS: Demoralization (“done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards”) > Destabilization (almost completed) > Crisis (the big one) > Normalization (end game) — “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. He will refuse to believe it until the military boot…”

[movie] Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined — Featuring G. Edward Griffin

G. Edward Griffin (age-78!) in-studio with Alex Jones — Globalists are now openly presenting their world government scheme because people are looking for solutions to the multiple crisis the globalists created: Problem —> Reaction —> Solution

Icon, NWO Historian G. Edward Griffin: The NWO’s Master Plan is Underway! “If you understand the mentality of the criminal mind, then you can see what it is they have planned”

[interview] G. Edward Griffin on Inflation, Politics and the Power Elite — “QUANTITIVE EASING is merely a more sophisticated phrase for creating money out of nothing and pumping it into the economic sectors, wherever they have friends” — “Every election PEOPLE FALL FOR THE SAME TRICK” — “The PENTAGON is winning or ACHIEVING ITS GOAL in Middle East…TO BE THERE FOREVER.” — “All 600 rebellions and REGIME CHANGES could be the result of the CIA”

Snowdens Within the Church: Churches have set the unGodly precedent in how they handle WHISTLEBLOWERS — How can we expect our government to be lovers of the truth if churches aren’t?

I just posted this on my Facebook page.

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I was thinking today about how most churches have set an ungodly precedent in how they handle whistleblowers — the Snowdens who tried to resurrect the corrupted system.

How can we expect our government to be lovers of the truth if churches aren’t?

Related:

The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? The believers, not the non-believers, have opened the gate to sin, which is why this country has deteriorated

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

Wes Hall to church leaders: “There’s a cry in your heart saying ‘I am not prepared to walk forward another step in dead works and dead religion”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

“Cleanse Ourselves?” — We both cleanse ourselves and Jesus Christ makes us clean. Do your part, without which God will not do His. | We must accept ALL of the Apostle’s Doctrine, not just selected verses. No Apostle ever wrote a verse to anyone. They wrote entire letters.

Great balance, and well said, Gary!

Paul also summed it up in Philippians 2:12-13:

So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God who works in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.

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Gary Gray posted this in a Facebook note, and gave me permission to post here.

CLEANSE OURSELVES? 

Just Agree With The Bible. It is not that hard to do.

We do what we are able and God does what only He can do. We are in a partnership. We do cooperate with God. It is the Apostle’s Doctrine.

Let’s look at “cleanse” for example.

See it as it is written:

1) (2Cor 7:1 [AKJV/PCE]) Cleanse Ourselves
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

2) (Eph 5:25 [AKJV/PCE]) Christ Cleanses
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

(Eph 5:26 [AKJV/PCE])
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

(Eph 5:27 [AKJV/PCE])
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

3) (Jas 4:8 [AKJV/PCE]) Cleanse Ourselves
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse [your] hands, [ye] sinners; and purify [your] hearts, [ye] double minded.

4) (1John 1:9 [AKJV/PCE]) Christ Cleanses
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Choosing only one side of this coin will land you in hell. Try to cleanse your self without Christ and you wind up in hell. Try to let Christ cleanse you while you do nothing to clean your self up. You will end up in hell. Do you think a man can lay with prostitutes and commit adultery without repentance and merely say, “Christ has made me clean, nothing I can do matters” and not wind up in hell?

We must accept ALL of the Apostle’s Doctrine, not just selected verses. No Apostle ever wrote a verse to anyone. They wrote entire letters. Knowing verses alone will not save you but rather will more likely lead you into deception and secure you a place in hell.

Some say we can not cleanse ourselves. They say only Jesus can do that. Others put all the work on man, thereby leading him down the path of endless legalism that can not save. A trip under the rigid law (ministration) of death and condemnation.

The bible says that we both cleanse ourselves and that Jesus Christ makes us clean. Let us say what the bible says the way the Apostles wrote it. Today men seem to think they are smarter and more gifted than Apostle Paul, Peter and James. Some think they are smarter than Jesus Himself. It is as though men are afraid to agree with the bible. They have the King Saul Syndrome. They abandon the Apostle’s Doctrine for the fear of men and seek to change scripture to suite the needs of compromisers.

Do your part, without which God will not do His. 

Continue reading ““Cleanse Ourselves?” — We both cleanse ourselves and Jesus Christ makes us clean. Do your part, without which God will not do His. | We must accept ALL of the Apostle’s Doctrine, not just selected verses. No Apostle ever wrote a verse to anyone. They wrote entire letters.”

The Sad State of Abbott Loop — ADN Reviewer Finds Little Substance

Very sad. Tom E’s vision of revival happening at Abbott Loop should have been fulfilled decades ago, merely by getting right with those who have been hurt, as God clearly said through many, including me. See my related links at the bottom of this post as to the problems and the SOLUTIONS.

Instead of reconciling (which they won’t even teach), they’re teaching once-saved-always-saved, like the other spiritually dead churches. It really is just a show.

God resists the proud, but longs to give grace to the truly humble. How much longer do we have to wait? How much further will America fall until ‘ONE’ happens, “that the world will know” — Jesus’ heart-cry for us in John 17?

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From: Anchorage Daily News

Abbott Loop: 2nd Visit – Not Much Change
Posted by Chris Thompson

Posted: July 31, 2009

Last year I visited Abbott Loop Community Church on June 22. I found a church not visitor-friendly, the music long, loud, and too much a show. However the message by a guest preacher was awesome, one of the best I’ve heard in my life. (click here for the review) One of their members contacted me recently, noting they had a new pastor and urging me to give them another try. I visited again on July 26 finding the church still not visitor-friendly, the music even longer, louder, and still a show. The new pastor, Josh Tanner, came across more like a youth pastor with lots of energy, excitement, but not particularly plowing deep into his topic. …

The music started promptly at 10 a.m. and continued, almost without interruption for close to an hour. It seemed more show than worship. People dutifully stood….

Josh Tanner is a younger preacher, but his talent, energy and delivery come across more as a youth pastor than that of a pastor who can bridge generations. The sermon seemed to be oversimplified and somewhat pedantic. On taking the pulpit he joked that he was “…all fired up with six Red Bull’s” then admitted he was playing with the crowd. It made me wonder about what else in his remarks he was joking about. You can listen to Tanner’s sermon here. It had a little scripture and lots of stories, vignettes, and remembrances.

Entire Article Here

Related:

Something Good is Going to Happen? Abbott Loop CC Cup — “Jesus is Lord.” We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!

My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”

[photo] Abbott Loop Christian Center (Abbott Loop Community Church) — 1985

Abbott Loop CC Cross: We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!

[3-minute news video report] Abbott Loop Community Church Roof Collapses!

The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.

Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”

The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

Wes Hall to church leaders: “There’s a cry in your heart saying ‘I am not prepared to walk forward another step in dead works and dead religion”

‘Fables’ taught by Mark Drake in Anchorage: Jesus didn’t really mean that we must ‘overcome’ in Revelation 2 & 3 = Steve Hill’s Lie #2, 3 & 5

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”

(illustration) Monsanto will be on the same floor as the willfully sinning pastors who still refuse to get right with those they’ve hurt?

“Let not many of you be teachers, my brothers,
knowing that we will receive heavier judgment.”

– James 3:1

Perhaps Monsanto will be right next to the willfully sinning pastors who refuse to get right with the people they’ve hurt, acting like nothing is wrong. And they won’t teach the truth about reconciliation, holiness, and Jesus’ desire that we’d be ‘ONE’ — “that the world will know” (John 17).

Many regularly James-3 curse the whistleblowers who try to warn the people.

Please, pastors who fit the above description, repent so Psalm 50:16-22 will no longer apply to you. And please look into what really happened on 9/11 so you won’t continue to support the police state and the end of America, by supporting the Republican establishment in all of their reverse-Christian and reprehensible-to-God endeavors.

Big Pharma will be down there too — and the PRESStitutes who sold out America for a few $$million a year, the globalists who sold their soul to the Devil for money and power, the entertainers who know they’re doing wrong, the secret society controlled politicians who act like they’re ‘Christians,’ etc..

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MonsantoHell

Related:

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Paul’s Elders’ Qualifications Revisited: Pastors and their Wives NOT ‘SOBER’ from Pharmakeia’s ANTIDEPRESSANTS? — Which can SEVER the SPIRITUAL Connection = Dulled CONSCIENCE … “Can no longer feel God” … even “Constant ruminating thoughts of killing” (James-3 cursing people!)

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!

The Boot-Camp Factor: The Hate & Anger Factory Where Men are Programmed to Kill and Then Become Our Dads?!! Our Pastors?!!!

Naming Names? Is that Biblical?: Paul did — Those who teach “any other gospel” are “accursed” of God and to be marked

Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!

The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “Let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned.”

The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?

The Sheep Stealers Rob the Sheep—Hypocrites Cannot Lead

Leadership: How it is Supposed to Be

Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent

Failed Churches — Hate that Destroys the Yoke of Unity

Many Curse Others From Their Hurts Deep Within

Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable”

‘Christian’ Leaders James-3 Cursing People Example: Jesse

Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’”

Wes Hall to church leaders: “There’s a cry in your heart saying ‘I am not prepared to walk forward another step in dead works and dead religion”

Wes Hall: Many ministers weren’t even called into the ministry. “The reason you’ve gone to seminary is to prove to God…how dedicated you are.” • “Some of you should have been in ministry, and you went into business; and you tried to become the best you could to earn your father’s approval in the natural.”

My Theory on Divorce and ‘Marriage’: It’s time to get out of unbiblical ‘marriages.’ “God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterers.” We must all be clean.

Clarifying my perspective on divorce and marriage: The role of the Holy Spirit

Ron Paul’s Biggest Eye-Opener: ‘Christian’ Evangelicals Pushing Preemptive War in the Name of Spreading Christian ‘Love’

Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

Francis Frangipane: Beware, It is Easy to Fake Christianity — “The moment we stop obeying God we start faking . . . .” “If our Christianity does not work in this life where we can test it, it is foolhardy to hope it will successfully transport us into eternity . . . if we fail the test, we suffer eternal separation from God.” “Let us re-examine what we have been taught.”

How CLEAN do our Hearts have to be from the Hebrews-12 root of bitterness that defiles many? Where is the place of SAFETY — RESTING, KNOWING for SURE we’re going to heaven? Selah …

[WordPOWER!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)

Steve Hill: Violent Revival — “Your salvation depends on your waging violent warfare against sin. … The violent man goes to war with his sins. He doesn’t make excuses for them, he annihilates them!”