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To my homosexual friends: May we all overcome temptation and be ‘ONE’ in Christ! What is the ‘fury fire’ that Piper Perabo talks about? How can it be tamed? What is God’s true perspective in “The Homosexuals Will Arise” prophecy and what does Romans 1 really say?

On June 16, 2011

In 'Homosexuals Will Arise', Demons in Christians?, Doctrines Demystified, Getting Right with Each Other, Lust Freedom!, No Enemy, Who Goes to Heaven

Ever since I got this prophecy in October of 2001, The Homosexuals Will Arise, I’ve had a soft heart for the homosexuals, those who are caught in this sin. I took off whatever ‘Baptist glasses’ I had. God helped me see more through His eyes what is going on.

The Homosexuals Will Arise

The homosexuals will arise. They have been hurt so badly in their heart. They are not the enemy. They are full of hurt, and are looking for a way out.

You can help if you don’t judge. Don’t criticize; show them the way through your smile. They are not worse than you, just unforgiven. They have a long way to go, but are not weird, as some would say. Do not mock. Lift them up. Give them space to watch.

Pray with them when you get a chance, but until then be slow. Their hearts are brittle, hardened by sin that has often been done unto them, not of their own accord. Have grace and Mercy, not judgment, or pain will come to you both, and alienation from the things of God, the life I can give.

It can happen. Love can start with you. It just takes one. Find it and run, run with arms outstretched, praying as you go, praying in tongues a lot. Don’t hold back. This is a precious gift. Use it now; it is for you to be free, to be built up in the might of My Spirit. Pray often, and do not faint. Do not let the world take control. I have overcome the world. You will too, if you walk in My steps, living a life of love.

God says homosexuals are not weird. They are just caught in a sin that is different, which is also similar to heterosexual lust, which many of the judgmental ‘Christians’ are also stuck in (whether it’s actually doing it with a person or just thinking it. And it is actually worse to do it with someone than just think about it). But both same and opposite-sex lust will put us in the who-doesn’t-go-to-heaven lists. See especially what Galatians 5 says in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

There is this critical spirit especially in the country western listening, evangelical community that homosexuals are the problem in America — along with al Qaeda. But it’s willfully sinning ‘Christians‘ who are the main problem in America: The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? The believers, not the non-believers, have opened the gate to sin, which is why this country has deteriorated.

All lusters are going to Hell unless we repent. And we need to get the plank (heterosexual lust, for example) before we can see clearly enough to take the speck (homosexual lust) out of our neighbor’s eye.

How’s that? I think this is actually how we are supposed to read this verse? Who knows what these dear people have gone through, often even at a young age, not of their own accord.

My heart is that we will all be one, truly in Christ, free from all kinds of lusts — and that those of who haven’t succumbed to this same-sex sin will not treat those who have any differently than those who have succumbed to opposite-sex lust.

People look at Romans 1 and put homosexuals in this worst-person category. But lets take another look at Romans 1:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known of God is revealed in them, for God revealed it to them. 20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse. 21 Because, knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator [worshiping, lusting after the opposite or same-sex and not really worshiping God in Spirit or in truth – editor], who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions. For their women changed the natural function into that which is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men doing what is inappropriate with men, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error.

28 Even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, malice [desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another — James-3 cursing – editor]; full of envy, murder [“he who hates his brother” — James-3 cursing – editor], strife, deceit, evil habits, secret slanderers, 30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent [presumptuous and insulting in manner or speech; arrogant — I know pastors who are this way & ‘Christians’ who comment at this website — editor], haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.

I think there are two clear points here unlike what is commonly taught. First, when homosexuality is rampant in a society it says a lot about the morality of the entire society in general. Rampant homosexuality is a key sign of a fallen society.

Secondly, every adjective I underlined i the last paragraph is true of many heterosexual ‘Christians’ whom I know, especially pastors, who are especially prone to James-3 curse those they see as their enemy: Dennis Cramer: “Most ‘Christians’ curse for the purpose of retaliation and vindication … ‘Christian’ leaders are even more vulnerable”

Instead of holding as a standard the scriptures that are in the header at the top of this page — so we will then achieve this standard, the feel-good remedy that is popular in most evangelical churches today is to accept the “I’m okay; you’re okay” once-saved-always-saved, false, eternal security doctrine — so then we all go to heaven anyway, regardless of what the Bible says in so many texts, including Romans 1, above.

Most ‘Christians’ today fit somewhere in the Romans 1:28-32, “worthy of death” list as well as the many scriptures in my Who-Goes study that clearly show who will not go to heaven. Though, is it fair to say that many, if not most ‘Christians’ don’t see themselves in Romans 1 at all, because the teaching in American pulpits has not been really Biblical or Spirit-led.

All lusters are in trouble, period — as well as those who hate others, wish people evil; secret slanderers; have strife, deceit; are unforgiving, unmerciful.

We must repent, having mercy on all people.

Who is going to get the greater judgment: homosexuals or pastors who won’t get right with those they’ve hurt?

The Bible says that spiritual teachers will get a stricter judgment!

I’m trying to put this into perspective so that ‘Christians’ will be more merciful towards homosexuals and that homosexuals will have great hope! The homosexuals will arise!!! FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———-DOM!!!!!!!

Bless you!!! And that has mainly been my heart in why I’ve written this. Personally, I don’t want anyone to think that I wouldn’t accept you just as I would if you had not fallen into this sin.

If therefore the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.

You can be free from homosexual sin just like opposite-sex lusters can be free from heterosexual sin. You don’t have to walk in guilt any longer. And we better not put any guilt on you either for what you did in the past that is now forgiven completely!!! If we do, slap us.

I’ve already tried to address this before, particularly here:

[Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because freedom lies straight ahead!

I was trying to show that both heterosexual and homosexual lust is demon driven — that when people feel a powerful attraction to a person sexually, it’s demon driven. The fact that it’s demon driven is good news because when totally repent, 100% cold turkey, then the lust demons can’t affect us. We can be 100.00% free — no matter what we’ve done.

And we need to have Spirit-filled churches led by Spirit-filled people, which will be our sanctuary.

Some people can overcome without being a part of a great church, but many need the body of Christ to truly be the body of Christ. We can all be ONE, experiencing His glory till death do us part.

The willfully sinning leaders need to get out of the way and encourage those who are supposed to lead, so they can lead us into holiness.

And in the meantime, some of us can just get holy to then help bring in this bigger thing that has been prophesied. Then we’ll have the Third Great Awakening.

Having said all of this, I wanted to include this quote, transcribed by me from this video interview of Piper Perabo, which I don’t recommend most people watch because of some of the images — though I didn’t have a problem with them.

Piper was in a same-sex movie, Lost and Delirious, which she talks about here:

“It didn’t occur to me when I read the script that it would be a controversy. … I feel like we’re past that. I hope that we are. From my eyes we are. You love who you love, you know. And especially when people love so strong. It’s like how can you deny them that kind of…. I mean there is no denying that kind fury fire.”

I’m trying to give homosexuals hope — really big hope that you can be totally, 100% free from homosexual and heterosexual lust.

And heterosexuals can be free from lust too. There really isn’t that much difference. The source of the power (the addiction) is the same.

My contention is that this kind of fury fire that you may have felt is furious because it’s demonic. It may feel really good (a high like a drug — dopamine, actually), like there is no denying it, but the fire part of this lust comes from giving into sinful sexual desire in which lust demons are ready and waiting to take you to Cloud 9 — though you know it’s wrong and you feel guilty all of the time.

And we can be free now, and have right relationships within marriage that aren’t sinful or demon driven. Though there can be demon driven lust inside marriage too.

And some of us are single and don’t like it at all, but it wouldn’t be so bad if real Christianity was happening and we could bask in the glory of God.

It will be so easy to NOT sin when ONE happens. But until then, many of us can live pure and clean anyway. And those of us who do can help ONE to happen!

Power to the peaceful — the power to overcome sin and live together as ONE!

Jeff Fenske
Anchorage, Alaska
ToBeFree!
ONEcanhappen!

When Sin Looks Delicious: TAKE THE BLAME for wanting to sin; RESIST Satan; RESOLVE that you will not sin; GIVE THANKS for Jesus’ enabling grace

(video) Seattle Gay Pridefest Turns Violent; Street Preachers Get Attacked — What Would Jesus Do?

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT” — Includes my dream of being in danger of going to hell just for lusting while watching TV

Spiritual Avalanche – Steve Hill: Many Challenge the Authority of the Word Despite its Clarity — “When the Scriptures contradict our feelings and preferences, RATHER THAN crucify our feelings and preferences and BOW DOWN BEFORE GOD and His Word, WE QUESTION GOD’S WORD”

[science] Why is Lust Addictive? — SEX increases dopamine by 200 units (1/6 the height of a METH euphoria)

The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? The believers, not the non-believers, have opened the gate to sin, which is why this country has deteriorated

Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!

A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls)

[Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because freedom lies straight ahead!

[Lust Freedom!] As Cautiously as Folding Our Own Parachute — “We ought to think out each step with the same kind of rationale and determination that a man uses when he folds his own parachute. Small, careful decisions can save his life. 5 minutes of pleasure earned Esau the loss of a lifetime of blessing and the enmity of God. Is it worth it?”

Joel Osteen: Homosexuals Get Into Heaven [But ‘Christians’ keep in mind that lusting HETEROsexuals WON’T INHERIT the kingdom either. We must all be holy so we can all be ONE!]

Wes Hall: It’s Not Just Porn! “You’re asking for power and there are areas of hidden compromise in your life. … I’m not talking about the R-rated movies. I’m talking about the PG-13s … certain sitcoms, TV shows where your spirit is being defiled.”

[ video ] David Icke with Alex Jones In-studio First Time!: The Royal Families Illuminati, Pedophilia, Murdering Past

The Homosexual Guild in D.C.: “They’re outing their white, male straights.”

Blackmail: How The Controlling Elite Owns Politicians — Almost every one of them has some dark secret that they can be blackmailed over if they fail to follow the Washington consensus.

[ video – full unedited ] Former Marine Colonel’s Wife: Sleeping With The Enemy — Kay Griggs Talks About Sexual Perversion Deep Within the Highest Levels of U.S. Military and Government, Military Assassin Squads, Drug Running, and Illegal Weapon Deals — “Why are Good People Silent?”

Madonna Fully Aware She’s Promoting Homosexuality

General Motors Psy-Op Ad Castrates Men By Using Feminism

“Reflections And Warnings: An Interview With Aaron Russo” – Entire Film – Aaron explains how the elite created the women’s liberation movement to break up the family and tax working women

Sandusky Part of Illuminati Pedophile Network

[NBC 1989] Call Boys Take Midnight Tour of Reagan/Bush White House

Retired FBI Chief Ted Gunderson: SATANISM & THE CIA — “The CIA is the most evil organization in the history of the world. They’re involved in kidnapping kids, international drug trafficking. They’re assassinating people….” | 50-60,000 human sacrifices per year in America!

Age of consent should be lowered to 13 to stop persecution of old men, says top barrister

[ video ] “Conspiracy of Silence”: The program that many compromised (and now blackmailable) Republicans don’t want you to see. It is the story of a cancer at the heart of America and its continuing cover-up at the highest level!

John DeCamp discusses the Franklin Cover-up: “The biggest monster I’ve ever encountered!”

Ted Gunderson: Many of our congressmen and senators have been blackmailed through children, sex and drugs…”and we don’t have enough people like Kucinich and Ron Paul to stand up.”

Invisible Empire Sneak Peek #4 — Call Boy Rings Exposed. “Many of us believe that our leaders are in fact Christian conservatives with our best interest at heart…” | But WE must have INTEGRITY no matter what.

[Video] Insider: Pedophilia Among America’s Leaders — Including ‘Conservative’ Republican Presidents?

Pedophilia in the White House — Interview with John DeCamp (Nebraska State Senator)

[WordPOWER] Jesus on Salvation (Mt. 7:13,14): “NARROW is the gate and DIFFICULT is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW who find it.”

By Jeff Fenske

On June 2, 2011

In Who Goes to Heaven, WordPOWER

Jesus

(Matthew 7:13, 14 NKJV)

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“Enter by the narrow gate;

for wide is the gate and broad is the way
that leads to destruction,
and there are many who go in by it.

Because narrow is the gate
and difficult is the way which leads to life,
and there are few who find it.”

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Survey of Christian Men on the Subject of Women’s Clothing — Men responded: “This area is the greatest challenge in my life!” • “Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight.” • “Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing!” • Many more…

By Jeff Fenske

On May 9, 2011

In Demons in Christians?, Lust Freedom!, Who Goes to Heaven

This questionnaire is directly related to my article: The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy — which includes Jesus’ Dress Code from my Let Us Be ONE prophecy.

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A comment from the article:

“I know many women say, ‘Well, that’s their problem, not mine!’ But while we men will answer for our lust, the ladies will answer for doing something that causes another to fall into sin.”

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This really is a big deal because heart-adultery keeps us from abiding in Christ. Lust is clearly a salvation issue! See also: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Jesus in Matthew 5:

27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Paul in Galatians 5 and 6:

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. …

6:7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

From: wayoflife.org

SURVEY OF CHRISTIAN MEN ON THE SUBJECT OF WOMEN’S CLOTHING

Updated August 6, 2008 (first published May 1, 2007) (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org …) –

This article is from the author’s book, “Dressing from the Lord,” which is available from Way of Life Literature. It can be ordered via the online catalog or by phone or e-mail (866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org).
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I sent out a notice to the Fundamental Baptist Information Service e-mail list and asked the following question of the men on the list who are members of fundamentalist and independent Baptist churches:

“In your opinion, which of the following items of female dress cause a real potential for lust?”

short skirts tight skirts slit skirts long skirts with slits to the knees sleeveless blouses low cut blouses and dresses tight blouses sheer blouses T-shirts V-neck dresses form-fitting jeans looser-fitting pants shorts one piece bathing suits …

My objective in this is to help girls and women in strong Bible-believing churches to understand how men think, not only men in the world or men in churches in general but men in the very churches that they attend.

I received a flood of response to this survey. In just one day I received well over 100 responses from men ages 24 to 74 and from many parts of the world, and that was on a weekend, and they are still coming in a week and a half later. This tells me that there is a readiness on the part of men to let women understand how they see this issue.

As you will see, the responses were very earnest. The men are discouraged that lust is such a powerful temptation in their lives, and they admitted that it is so. Some of the men literally begged me to tell the women that their manner of dress is important and that they need to understand how men look at things.

One man wrote: “Thank you for this request. This area is the greatest challenge in my life — in all honesty to a brother-in-the-Blood.” …

Most of the men observed that their response to a woman’s immodest dress depends on their spiritual condition and acknowledged that they have a responsibility before God not to lust after women regardless of how they are dressed.

For example, one man said: “Men are sight oriented creatures. The Lord has so equipped men to be sexually stimulated visually. … Men must govern their own hearts.”

Another man said: “My response to immodesty is often dependent on the environment, situation and my spiritual defense mechanism at a particular moment. If I have had a wonderful prayer time and clothed myself with all the spiritual armor, I am usually just about OK for anything. But more often then I would like it, I am not prepared or I am in a vulnerable situation; then I better run for my dear life (Gen. 39:12).” …

Many of the men also observed that this is a heart issue. The following statement by a pastor is typical of those made by many others:

“I believe the most important issue in female modesty is the issue of a chaste heart. If the woman desires to please her Saviour and honor her brother in Christ, there is seldom an issue with the clothing she wears. Mandating modest clothing without focusing on creating a chaste heart does little good. If the woman wears ‘modest’ clothing but is sensual in the way she walks or conducts herself, it will invariably cause a man to lust. I don’t need to see skin to cause me to lust. We men have pretty good imaginations.”

As to the individual items of dress, the men made the following points:

First of all, many of the men replied that all of the aforementioned female dress styles hold a real potential for lust. The following two statements were typical:

“I believe that ALL you had listed cause a ‘potential’ for lust.”

“I think that ALL of the listed items can cause lust. The bottom line for me is that anything that is form fitting, exposing, sheer, or clinging to a woman is immodest and can cause men to lust.” …

CONSIDER SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE MEN:

[These are just some of the quotes listed in the article. I normally do, but did not here use ellipses to indicate where statements were cut – editor]

“I do believe most women just do not know how men think. Period. I believe that there is a whole segment, group, class of women, who, if they really understood men, would change their dress code, because they do want to please God. Not all women, by far, but some would. They just need to understand it’s not just a list of do’s and don’ts set forth to force them in to ‘frumpiness,’ but a desire of godly men to gain their cooperation in helping them NOT lust, and to not be stumbling blocks, because they just want to please God.”

“MANY WOMEN, USUALLY YOUNGER, DRESS TO ATTRACT MEN AND DO NOT KNOW HOW DANGEROUS IT TRULY CAN BE FOR THEM. … I am a retired criminal investigator and worked criminal work for 17 1/2 years of my career. I think many homicides and serious physical assaults in addition to the obvious sex crimes are brought about by immodest dress and any born again Christian woman should never dress as such. A sexual predator can be turned on and be as dangerous as a hand grenade with the pin pulled by a women that has the one turn on factor for his mind (which is a variable with such criminals) which could be any of the listed ways of dressing.”

“I have to admit some of the dresses that are worn even though the dress hits the floor, and some of the blouses, even though it goes all the way to the neck, are very form fitting. I don’t think that women are out to stumble the men of the church, and nor am I saying that women need to walk around in sacks. There are sometimes when a lady is doing a special music or something that I have to look away that I may not stumble. In summation I think that all of the clothing you have listed that is form fitting and shows the curves of a woman is a real potential for lust.”

“I am a 24-year-old, unmarried man. I am very glad that you are asking us men about this issue, because it has been my experience that women truly do not understand the things that can run through a man’s head when he sees an immodestly-dressed woman. For a God-fearing man, this is a true concern. Fashionable clothing is not, as far as I can tell, designed by God-fearing Christians with any interest in modesty. Sex sells, and sexy clothing sells. … I have talked to women I know about the dress issue and told them that when they wear certain things, no matter how ‘covered up’ they may be, the fit of the clothing still makes a huge difference. Some women have told me that it is a man’s fault for having such a dirty mind or for letting it get to a point where lust becomes a problem, but the fact is men seem specifically prone to these types of thoughts. In North American culture we are inundated with sex. Everywhere we look there is a provocatively dressed (or practically undressed) woman selling something, and I think that women (and men) need to seriously consider the way they dress and how it affects members of the opposite sex. The last place I want to have to worry about lust is in my church. AS CHRISTIANS, IT IS NOT OUR PLACE TO SAY, ‘WELL, I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY MEN CAN’T LOOK AT ME DRESSED LIKE THIS AND NOT BATTLE WITH LUSTING THOUGHTS.’ INSTEAD, WE NEED TO TAKE IT FOR TRUTH WHEN A PERSON OF THE OPPOSITE SEX INFORMS US THAT OUR DRESS IS CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THEM, AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PROTECT OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM STUMBLING.”

“All men are aroused in one way or the other over revealed flesh. That is exactly why these clothes are made this way. I know some men are more easily aroused than others but normally any man is naturally inclined (by our sinful nature) to take notice of a woman wearing any garment that is revealing flesh. I THINK IT IS A SHAME TO COME TO CHURCH AFTER A WEEK IN THIS EVIL WORLD AND WANT TO ENJOY A SERVICE OF WORSHIP AND PRAISE TO THE LORD AND FELLOWSHIP AMONG SEPARATED PEOPLE AND SEE WOMEN DRESSING LIKE THE WORLD AND WHEN YOU CONFRONT THEM ABOUT THIS YOU ALWAYS GET THE SAME OLD LINE ‘WELL IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, YOU’VE GOT THE PROBLEM.’ Well, I always wonder why a woman who loves the Lord and wants to please the Lord would want to dress like the world and have men looking at her in a carnal way. When I see a woman in a store in town and she is dressed a certain conservative way, I always think, ‘I bet she is a Christian.’ IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF A WOMAN WHEN SHE SHUNS THE STYLES OF THIS WORLD AND WALKS IN SUCH A WAY THAT SHE WANTS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT SHE IS DIFFERENT.”

“I am 55 years old and I am BROKENHEARTED over the dress of a great number of females in the churches I visit. Oh, if I could only talk to moms and dads. I have never been married but lived in the world many years. I beg you, preacher, tell them that wearing ANYTHING that draws attention to a particular area, accentuating ANY form or flesh, is a great distraction for me. Please, stop wearing TIGHT clothing, exposing flesh, and wearing articles of clothing with writing on them. How many times have I had to turn my eyes away, or worry, did I look too long, did somebody notice me looking? I wish I could talk to a group of women and just tell them, because I know many don’t really realize what a distraction it is. [Surely] they don’t want the brethren to sin. I can’t believe how some of these young girls dress. Don’t they know the things we cherish, we must protect. I don’t care about peer pressure; clothing is an opportunity to share your faith when people see a difference. Remember that man and (wo)man looks at the outward appearance. We have to be separated and yes a ‘PECULIAR’ people. Men are tempted and aroused by the things they SEE. David was tempted when he SAW Bathsheba; Herod was tempted when he SAW Salome dance; when Samson ‘saw a women in Timnath,’ he wanted her because her looks ‘pleased’ him.”

“I travel a bit, and as I’m walking through a crowded airport looking around, I tend more to notice things like short skirts, skirts or dresses with slits that come to or above the knee, low-cut blouses or dresses, sheer blouses, or tight-fitting anything. Clothing that accentuates or draws attention to one part of the body seems more noticeable to me. I believe that clothing absolutely can draw attention to the woman’s body and that once attention is there, the potential, perhaps even likelihood, for lust isn’t far behind.”

“From what I see in the way many woman and teens dress, Christians included, many act like they are ‘for sale’ or are very ignorant of what they are doing to their image. That’s the way I see things on this issue.”

“The more skin I see, the more I have to force myself to look away from that individual. It brings back the past [before I was saved]. It seems like some women flaunt their bodies. What they are saying by their clothes, ‘Don’t look at my face, look at my body!’ … I am all for modesty and I wish all churches had a dress code. Not just in church but also out of church. Skin is a distraction! More skin; more sin.”

“I agree with you about the lack of understanding from most women about the male weakness in the area of lust. The average Christian woman today seems to think, ‘If you’ve got it, flaunt it.’ I actually had one woman who used to be in my church saying that. … God’s final act of creation was His most beautiful. A normal man would agree with this. This sets us apart from the animal kingdom. In animals the male is the most attractive. The female is often rather dowdy. Humans are reversed. … A godly woman can dress attractively and properly by following a few simple thoughts. Do the clothes she is wearing draw a man’s eyes to her face or to her other body parts? Is the clothing she is wearing obviously feminine and modest and not made for men?”

“All of those items of female dress cause a real potential for lust. WHY SHOULD A MAN HAVE TO BATTLE WITH LUST DURING A CHURCH SERVICE WHEN IT IS HARD ENOUGH JUST TO WALK IN A WORLD FULL OF SENSUALITY? IF WOMEN ONLY KNEW THE SNARE OF TEMPTATION THAT IS SET BEFORE OUR EYES. Even if it is a fraction of a second and a man turns his head away, the battle can still rage in the mind just from a mere glimpse. I honestly believe that many of them know exactly what they are doing. Why else would they dress like the rebellious world?”

“It seems the last few years as the churches have grown more liberal and the women show more skin, I HAVE TO FIGHT HARDER TO KEEP MY MIND STRAIGHT. I am happily married. I do not and will not stray. … I wish women could just take the Bible for what it says. Yes, the Lord made us men this way. … I think the most beautiful thing God created on this earth is a woman, and Satan knows it to. That is just the way I feel.”

“Almost all of the styles you listed serve to in some way accentuate, reveal, or tantalize the senses of men. Men are very liable to visual temptation. Even Job realized that (Job 31:1). The Psalmist did, too (Psa. 101:3). The ladies need to know that there is a need to have a heart of modesty that will give them the desire to strengthen and honor their brothers in Christ. If that happens, modesty will be a matter of heart and dress, and not simply a legalistic issue.”

“In my personal opinion, I think the styles that expose the bosom or the tight form of the bosom present the majority of the problem because it is more accepted to show that area in our society as opposed to the upper thigh or lower buttocks.”

“My wife was taught as a little girl that all attention should be drawn to her face, and that rule has been a great guideline.”

“I am certainly not proud to have to say that all of the above items of clothing on women cause a real potential for lust, but for me it is the case. OF ALL OF MY CLOSE BROTHERS IN THE LORD WHOM I HAVE TALKED WITH ON THIS SUBJECT OVER TIME, ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THEY STRUGGLE WITH LUST; and it is so few women, at least where I am, that dress modestly or even have a single clue that there is a Biblical instruction for them to do so. I am so thankful for my Pastor’s wife (they are new here and have planted a new Church in my city) and her decision to dress modestly.”
“Maybe I just have a problem with lust, but I know my own heart. There is no godly, good reason that I should ever see from ‘the neck to the knees’ of any woman other than my wife.”

“IT IS AMAZING TO ME THAT HUSBANDS, FATHERS, ETC., WOULD ALLOW THEIR WOMEN OUT IN PUBLIC WEARING SOME OF THE THINGS WOMEN WEAR. Have they no idea the thoughts of other men? Shame on them.”

“If such things draw the attention of normal, godly, Christian men, by definition they are immodest, no matter what the women think.”

“I don’t know how women can ‘not’ know the impact their dress has on men. In fact I believe they do (more than they say or let on). One thing I see in my church is tight clothing. Oh, it may very well be covering but it is revealing the shape in a woman. This can be even more tantalizing to a man. I once was at a conference and the preacher asked a very strong Christian couple (wife modestly dressed) who do you dress for (question to the wife) and she said her husband. The preacher and the congregation gave their amens. I thought about that answer and it was an answer I would have wanted my wife to give until to a few years before. Now she knows I would want her to dress for the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. I have the potential to be carnal, and in the flesh and to want to see her in less modest apparel. That would never be the case with our Lord. Thus I told her to dress for Jesus Christ.”

“Thank you for addressing this serious problem. I agree that most Christian women do not seem to understand how that the way they dress affects men. Unfortunately, some do understand and they enjoy dressing in a way that attracts the attention of men. … We are living in the last part of the last days. Demon influence and demon possession is rampant. Evil triumphs when the church does nothing. ONE SIGN OF DEMON ACTIVITY IS NUDITY AND LEWD DRESS. MEN RESPOND BY SIGHT. Sight arouses their sexual drive. Anything that exposes highlights or outlines the torso and thigh is lustful dress. The Word of God is clear that a man who lusts after a woman is guilty of adultery along with her. I told my people last Sunday that if the women dress inappropriately and go to town, causing four men to look and lust, they will be held accountable for participating in committing adultery.” [Demons absolutely do empower lust: Demons absolutely do empower lust, and this is how it works – editor]

“As a man, a Christian, and a pastor, I believe modesty is perhaps the most important issue in dress, whether among the church or otherwise, because, I’M TELLING YOU, MEN NOTICE, MEN LOOK, AND MEN LUST, EVEN THE GOOD ONES. I know many women say, ‘Well, that’s their problem, not mine!’ But while we men will answer for our lust, the ladies will answer for doing something that causes another to fall into sin. Ladies, understand, your dress DOES effect us, and as such, you should prayerful consider what you wear. Men are created in such a way as to be stimulated by sight–so when we see a lady, pretty, or sometimes not, we are stimulated by the sight of their flesh. It’s just the way we are.”

Entire Article Here

What does God say? Women, children and men exposing themselves to TSAs in NAKED BODY SCANNERS!

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Separation from the World — What the Early Christians Believed About Separation from the World. D. Bercot. The Bible exhorts us: “Adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” So…

David Bercot’s CD teaching: Modest Dress and Cosmetics — How literally did the early Christians take Peter’s exortation?

A Nation ‘Bewitched’: Farrah Fawcett — “When the show [Charlie’s Angels] got to be No. 3, I figured it was our acting. When it got to be No. 1, I decided it could only be because none of us wears a bra”

1942 Minnesota: Bathing beaches prior to the low-cut top epidemic

Jesus’ Dress Code

All of my Lust Freedom! posts

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Francis Chan Freedom Quotes: Lukewarm People — "Lukewarm people call 'radical' what Jesus expected of ALL His followers." — "Lukewarm people feel secure because they attend church, made a profession of faith at age twelve, were baptized, come from a Christian family, vote Republican…" — More…

By Jeff Fenske

On May 8, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Francis Chan, FreedomQuotes, Who Goes to Heaven

These are quotes by Francis Chan, probably all taken from chapter 4 of Crazy Love. I’m listening to the wonderful audio version, read by Francis, himself!
I thought Francis’ lukewarm list to be so exceptional that I’d share some of his points with you even if I had to transcribe them myself. Thankfully, I don’t have to.
This is my favorite:

Lukewarm people are moved by stories about people who do radical things for Christ, yet they do not act. They assume such action is for “extreme” Christians, not average ones. Lukewarm people call “radical” what Jesus expected of all His followers.

We don’t want to be among those whom our perfectly holy Father whom we can TOTALLY trust spits out of His mouth having squandered away our inheritance (Rev. 3:14-22). We want to safely and JOYFULLY rest in Him!
Life in the Son!

jeff

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaidsEzynWw]Ch 4 – Crazy Love by Francis Chan

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Excerpts from: markartrip.wordpress.com, emphasis mine

LUKEWARM PEOPLE-FRANCIS CHAN

3. Lukewarm people tend to choose what is popular over what is right when they are in conflict. They desire to fit in both at church and outside of church; they care more about what people think of their actions (like church attendance and giving) than what God thinks of their hearts and lives (Luke 6:26; Rev. 3:1; Matthew 23:5-7).

4. Lukewarm people don’t really want to be saved from their sin; they want only to be saved from the penalty of their sin. They don’t genuinely hate sin and aren’t truly sorry for it; they’re merely sorry because God is going to punish them. Lukewarm people don’t really believe that this new life Jesus offers is better than the old sinful one (John 10:10; Romans 6:1-2).

5. Lukewarm people are moved by stories about people who do radical things for Christ, yet they do not act. They assume such action is for “extreme” Christians, not average ones. Lukewarm people call “radical” what Jesus expected of all His followers (James 1:22; James 4:17; Matthew 21:28-31).

8. Lukewarm people say they love Jesus, and He is, indeed, a part of their lives. But only a part. They give Him a section of their time, their money, and thoughts, but He isn’t allowed to control their lives (Luke 9:57-62).

9. Lukewarm people love God, but they do not love Him with all their heart, soul, and strength. They would be quick to assure you that they try to love God that much, but that sort of total devotion isn’t really possible for the average person; it’s only for pastors and missionaries and radicals (Matthew 22:37-38).

10. Lukewarm people love others but do not seek to love others as much as they love themselves. Their love of others is typically focused on those who love them in return, like family, friends, and other people they know and connect with. There is little love left over for those who cannot love them back, much less for those who intentionally slight them, whose kids are better athletes than theirs, or with whom conversations are awkward or uncomfortable. Their love is highly conditional and very selective, and generally comes with strings attached (Matthew 5:43-47; Luke 14:12-14).

15. Lukewarm people are continually concerned with playing it safe; they are slaves to the god of control. This focus on safe living keeps them from sacrificing and risking for God (1 Timothy 6:17-18; Matthew 10:28).

16. Lukewarm people feel secure because they attend church, made a profession of faith at age twelve, were baptized, come from a Christian family, vote Republican, or live in America. Just as the prophets in the Old Testament warned Israel that they were not safe just because they lived in the land of Israel, so we are not safe just because we wear the label Christian or because some people persist in calling us a “Christian nation” (Matthew 7:21; Amos 6:1)

Entire Article Here
Related:
Francis Chan Freedom Quotes!
Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God at Amazon [paperback, Kindle, and audio editions]
Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”

[video] 2 Tests: Can you see the difference between what Francis Chan taught vs what he now teaches about salvation? | Can you see the 3D horse at 15:50?

By Jeff Fenske

On May 4, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Francis Chan, Who Goes to Heaven

More of Francis’ current teaching on salvation can be seen in the links at the end of this post.

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Francis Chan
05/02/10

Conditional Security

[Teaching the true-freedom truth
just before leaving Cornerstone
with clean hands!

Notice how much happier
he now really is!]

See the 3D horse at 15:50[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUoPsNfiu8E]Salvation by Francis Chan

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Compare above message to
what Francis spoke
2.5 years earlier

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Francis Chan
11/04/07

Unconditional Security

[This is actually diabolical —
the greatest deception,
leading so many astray and ruining America.

This is probably some of what Francis was trying to undo
in the message above —
so he could be clean
and so he could see many of them in heaven.]

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6HJGzA7dNM]Francis Chan – GRACE GRACE GRACE

Dan Corner: What's wrong with today's gospel — Eternal security is false, no matter how popular! Actual audio quotes from big name teachers

By Jeff Fenske

On May 3, 2011

In Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Doctrines of Demons?, Lust Freedom!, The Church is Getting Jacked!, Who Goes to Heaven

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sbZYcRE-Fs]What’s wrong with today’s gospel Pt 1 (Eternal Security is false) No once saved always saved

Uploaded by gospel4u2 on Mar 28, 2008

http://www.dancorner.com

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/eternal-security.htm
Dan Corner exposes and refutes the false gospel and counterfeit grace of eternal security. Hear actual audio quotes from big name teachers and a sound biblical refutation of the devil’s lie of once saved always saved aka eternal security
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ydu-yPPT0w]
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyZBZrLdX4]
Related:
[Video] Dan Corner Interview: The Believer’s Conditional Security

Dan Corner’s 801-page book: “The Believer’s Conditional Security”

How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!

[Video] Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? (what the Bible really says about who goes to heaven)

(video) Dan Corner: True Grace Vs False Grace — Charles Stanley’s security in sin: “You cannot out-sin the grace of God” Vs Jesus: “He who endures to the end will be saved”

(video) Dan Corner: Prodigal Son — “My son was dead, and is alive again! He was lost, and is found!”

(cartoon) The Prodigal Son

(audio) Dan Corner: “If you’re lusting in your heart, you are an adulterer, and you won’t inherit the kingdom”

John Calvin Had Servetus Burned at the Stake for Having Doctrinal Differences — His Ashes Cry Out!

(audio) Dan Corner: The parable of the sower — “Bringing forth fruit is a salvation issue”

(video) The Grace Changers: Calvinist Mark Driscoll Exposed — “Mark Driscoll’s popularity is proof that we are in a deep dark church apostacy now!”

What about the thief on the cross? He wasn’t required to do works | ‘Sweaty ministry’ VS “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me…”

Father of Calvinism, Augustine’s Prayer To Mary For His Salvation

[Biblically disqualified to lead] Chuck Missler laughs about his intentional lie — Has eternal security seared his conscience? Dan Corner thinks so.

By Jeff Fenske

On May 2, 2011

In Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Doctrines of Demons?, Lying, Who Goes to Heaven

Could it be that once-saved-always-saved
is at least partially searing church leaders’ consciences?

Is this why these grace changers won’t repent,
and won’t get right with those they’ve hurt,
believing their own lie —
a doctrine of demons?

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATaCt9IgwqA]CHUCK MISSLER EXPOSED Eternal Security Conscience Seared Liars

Uploaded by gospel4u2 on Aug 26, 2009

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/chuck_missler.htm Powerful and shocking expose of Chuck Missler, a very popular teacher of our dark day. Check the web site for much more info refuting the false gospel and counterfeit grace message of eternal security.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com

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This grace changing, false teacher at work,
saying the statement Corner addresses above,
and that the alternative to ES is to be under the law.

Hogwash:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_zEGJoE_Q]Eternal Security

Related:

[WordPOWER] Jesus: Where ‘all liars’ go (pastors included) — Revelation 21:8

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Lutheran Infant Baptism is Unscriptural and a False Gospel

By Jeff Fenske

On May 2, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Doctrines of Demons?, Luther Didn't Get It, Who Goes to Heaven

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VL95TDK9o4]Lutheran Infant Baptism (Original Sin) Is Unscriptural And A False Gospel

Uploaded by gospel4u2 on Jul 1, 2010

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/infantbaptism.htm Lutherans have a false gospel which is shown through their infant baptism. Do not be deceived by this practice.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org

Can this one false doctrine be stopping revival? Absolutely!

By Jeff Fenske

On May 2, 2011

In Doctrines of Demons?, Revival, Who Goes to Heaven

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuBatOP6Q7E]Form of Godliness – Social Gospel

Uploaded by gospel4u2 on Jul 9, 2009

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/form-of-godliness.htm Why No Revival? Why are there no evangelical pentecostal church revival fires? Many want genuine revival but do not see or comprehend the underlying problem.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org
or
http://www.EOMin.org
or
http://www.noeternalsecurity.com

[4-minute video] Francis Chan: The Balance Beam

By Jeff Fenske

On May 1, 2011

In Francis Chan, Who Goes to Heaven

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA_uwWPE6lQ]Francis Chan – Balance Beam

Uploaded by golfguy2117 on Oct 2, 2008

Francis Chan challenging us to do something with our lives.

[video] Francis Chan's 'Last Sermon' — There will be no cowards in heaven

By Jeff Fenske

On May 1, 2011

In Francis Chan, Lust Freedom!, Lying, Who Goes to Heaven

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fayWA5TZm0A]Francis Chan’s Last Sermon

Uploaded by maznoe on Jun 7, 2010

This is a clip from the end of Francis Chan’s last sermon at Cornerstone Church, the church he founded sixteen years ago. He is stepping down voluntarily to pursue a ministry in the inner city — possibly Los Angeles. These are the parting words that he did not want to leave his church without saying.

The full sermon and previous sermons can be seen here:
http://www.cornerstonesimi.com/

Jeff Fenske: 13 Common Misconceptions About the New Covenant — and 13 Truths including "If you are led by the Spirit you are not under the law"

By Jeff Fenske

On April 22, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Doctrines of Demons?, Who Goes to Heaven

Grace. It’s now all about grace — we hear over and over and over.
But what does the Bible really say? And what is grace?

There is so much misunderstanding about how the new covenant is different than the old covenant. Much of this is due to the misinterpretation of the word ‘grace,’ and it’s way deeper than that.
Here I’ve compiled a list of the false statements I’ve been hearing from the grace changers (the false teachers of our day), who are teaching these as being the truth — ruining the church.
And this is what is destroying America.
I may add to the list if I think of more. Please comment with your suggestions too.
– Jeff Fenske
onecanhappen.com

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13 Common Misconceptions About the New Covenant

[FALSEHOOD] The requirements in the new covenant are less than in the old.
[THE TRUTH] What did Jesus say in Matthew 5, and what did Paul say in Acts 17?

[WordPOWER!] Jesus Ups the Ante – Matthew 5:21-22: “YOU HAVE HEARD that it was said…, ‘You shall not murder’…. BUT I TELL YOU, that everyone who is ANGRY with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment”

[WordPOWER!] Jesus Ups the Ante – Matthew 5:27-30: “YOU HAVE HEARD that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery;’ BUT I TELL YOU that everyone who GAZES at a woman to LUST after her has committed ADULTERY with her already in his heart. …your whole body to be CAST INTO GEHENNA.”

[WordPOWER!] Acts 17:30-31 God Upped the Ante when He Sent the Holy Spirit — “The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent…”

[FALSEHOOD] Abiding in Christ doesn’t require us to actually abide in Christ. We’re legally in Christ merely because of what Jesus did — Romans 1a without the 1b (without verses 4 and 12-17 too)
[THE TRUTH] “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”
What did Jesus say in John 15 about abiding — the opposite of the song, “Never Let Go”? Read in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
[FALSEHOOD] If born-again ‘Christians’ feel condemnation, it’s really only conviction. Condemnation is a lie from the Devil because: “There is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus“ — Romans 1a without the 1b
[THE TRUTH] “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”
[FALSEHOOD] People in the old covenant were under the law, but we are under “grace” — so they had to obey the law but we don’t have to obey anything (or Anyone).
[THE TRUTH] See: The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?
[FALSEHOOD] The 10 Commandments were replaced by “grace + nothing.” Now we don’t have to do anything.

[THE TRUTH] Jesus superceded the 10 Commandments with the Greatest Two — a greater requirement, not less.
Matthew 22:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?” 37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 A second likewise is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.”

AND

Romans 13:

8 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not give false testimony,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love doesn’t harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.

AND

John 15:1-14

1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer. 2 Every branch in me that doesn’t bear fruit, he takes away. Every branch that bears fruit, he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already pruned clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, and I in you. As the branch can’t bear fruit by itself, unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you, unless you remain in me. 5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If a man doesn’t remain in me, he is thrown out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you remain in me, and my words remain in you, you will ask whatever you desire, and it will be done for you. 8 “In this is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; and so you will be my disciples. 9 Even as the Father has loved me, I also have loved you. Remain in my love. 10 If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and remain in his love. 11 I have spoken these things to you, that my joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be made full. 12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another, even as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friends, if you do whatever I command you.

[FALSEHOOD] Paul rebuked the Galatians for thinking they had to do works.
[THE TRUTH] Paul rebuked the Galatians for thinking they had to do the works of the law. In Galatians 5:13 – 6:10, Paul clearly explains what we now have to do in the new covenant. Read in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
[FALSEHOOD] In Romans 7, Paul couldn’t overcome sin as a born-again believer — so if we don’t overcome sin that is normal.

[THE TRUTH] Romans 7 was the struggle that Paul had before he was born-again, before he had the Holy Spirit in him to empower him to overcome as he says we must do in the following chapter to even be called children of God. People don’t read far enough — or just read what they want to read.
[FALSEHOOD] Paul didn’t get right with those he hurt so we don’t have to either.

[THE TRUTH] See: Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”
[FALSEHOOD] The fear of God isn’t supposed to be fear but just reverence.

[THE TRUTH] Paul said “work out your salvation through fear and trembling. We should fear and tremble in what God will do to us if we don’t work out our own salvation by making sure we abide in Him.
Mt. 10:28 — “Don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Hell.”

And is this merely reverence? Great fear came on the people when Ananias and Sapphira were killed by God. The people didn’t want to be also zapped. And many were added to their number too. Consider also what God said he would do to Jezebel and her children if she didn’t repent (Rev. 1).

[FALSEHOOD] It’s hard to lose one’s salvation.

[THE TRUTH] Read Revelation 3:1-5 in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? And the church in Sardis actually had a reputation for being alive, unlike almost every church today.
[FALSEHOOD] Once our names are in the Book of Life they can’t be removed.

[THE TRUTH] See how only a few in the church in Sardis would not have their names removed from the Book of Life. Read Revelation 3:1-5 in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? And the church in Sardis actually had a reputation for being alive, unlike almost every church today.
[FALSEHOOD] We can be lukewarm and still go to heaven.

[THE TRUTH] Revelation 3:15-16 — “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth.
[FALSEHOOD] But Jesus didn’t really mean that. A pastor recently said from the pulpit that he doesn’t believe a Christian can be deceived enough to lose his/her salvation.

[THE TRUTH] Paul said in Galatians 6:7,8 — “Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.”
In Galatians 5, Paul gave two lists: those who are Christ’s have the fruit of the Spirit, having crucified their flesh.
And then there are those who are bound for Hell.

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

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Therefore Jesus upped the ante, increased the requirements for us who now have the Holy Spirit in us to help us overcome. And overcome we must:

“Those who are led by the Spirit are the children of God.”

Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

“Remain in Me….”

“Work out your salvation through fear and trembling.”

“If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.”

“He who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.”

“Remain in me, and I in you.”

“You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,
who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

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“The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked.
But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent…”

[WordPOWER] JESUS' CONCLUSION — The last chapter of the last book, Revelation 22: Those WHO DO My commandments (The Greatest 2) have THE RIGHT to the tree of life and MAY ENTER | OUTSIDE are everyone who loves and practices FALSEHOOD — Let's be real!

By Jeff Fenske

On April 14, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Lying, Who Goes to Heaven, WordPOWER

Compare to what Paul really said:

Romans 8:1

“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

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Revelation 22:12-15

12 “Behold, I come quickly. My reward is with me, to repay to each man according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14 Blessed are those who do his commandments [the Greatest Two, now that we’re in the new covenant: “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. The second is like this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself'” (Mk. 12:30-31) – editor], that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral [“…everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart” Mt. 5:28 – editor], the murderers [“Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life remaining in him” (1 John 3:15) – editor], the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood [Rev. 21:8 – ‘all liars’ – editor].

16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things to you for the assemblies.

[WordPOWER] God: Where 'all liars' go (pastors included) — Revelation 21:8

By Jeff Fenske

On April 14, 2011

In Who Goes to Heaven, WordPOWER

Revelation 21:5…8

He who sits on the throne said,
“… He who overcomes, I will give him these things. I will be his God, and he will be my son.

But … all liars, their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
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My observation: Satan is using US to take out regimes that oppose his one-world government/anti-Christ reign. Be on God's side. Don't follow the crowd; follow Jesus. "Come out from them and be separate," says God. Be holy. Let's love!

By Jeff Fenske

On March 19, 2011

In Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Doctrines of Demons?, Power OVER or under, Reverse-Christianity Responsible, Who Goes to Heaven

Another war —
another opportunity
to get our hearts right.

“Love your neighbor
as yourself.”

– Jesus

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It is my observation that Satan has duped the American people
(including pastors who can’t biblically be ‘strikers‘)
to support wars that are taking out those governments
who would oppose the Devil’s one-world government,
anti-Christ reign.

The proof is at ToBeFree!

Wake up
and don’t cut your own throat!

“Come out from among them and be separate.”

Be on God’s side,
not Satan’s.

Don’t follow the crowd.
Follow Jesus,
directly.

Be led by the HOLY Spirit.

Jeff Fenske

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“Blessed are the (true) peacemakers.
They shall be called children of God.”

Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they shall see God.

– Jesus

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Do you want to go to heaven?

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“Those who are led by the Spirit
are the Children of God.”

– Paul

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“Not by might,
nor by power,
but by by My Spirit….”

– God

EXCELLENT! Cynthia McKinney: Obama’s So Called Humanitarian Aid to Libya is A Disaster: “The American people are being lied to.” Kadafi was standing in the way of a globalist, Mediterranean states alliance with Europe.

Ron ‘Blessed-are-the-PEACEmakers’ Paul: U.S. War On Libya Totally UnConstitutional | Jesus: Peacemakers = “Children of God”

Col. Bob Bowman: The immorality they’re foisting on this country — We haven’t been the good guys for a long time. The countries we’ve invaded happen to be the few countries in the world that are not part of the Rothschilds’ banking cartel.

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Ron Blessed-are-the-PEACEmakers Paul: U.S. War On Libya Totally UnConstitutional | Jesus: Peacemakers = "Children of God"

By Jeff Fenske

On March 19, 2011

In Power OVER or under, Who Goes to Heaven

Jesus in Matthew 5

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the gentle,
for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness,
for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

10 Blessed are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

11 “Blessed are you when people reproach you,
persecute you,
and say all kinds of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad,
for great is your reward in heaven.
For that is how they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC07ykFMXyM]Ron Paul’s Texas Straight Talk 3/14/11: No-Fly Won’t Fly Constitutionally

Uploaded by minnesotachris on Mar 13, 2011

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Last week we once again heard numerous voices calling for intervention in Libya. Most say the US should establish a “no-fly” zone over Libya, pretending that it is a benign, virtually cost-free action, and the least we could do to assist those trying to oust the Gaddaffi regime. Let us be clear about one thing: for the US to establish a “no fly” zone over all or part of Libya would constitute an act of war against Libya. Establishing any kind of military presence in the sovereign territory of Libya will require committing troops to engage in combat against the Libyan air force, as well as anti-aircraft systems. The administration has stated that nothing is off the table as they discuss US responses to the unrest. This sort of talk is alarming on so many levels. Does this mean a nuclear strike is on the table? Apparently so.
In this case, I would like to make sure we actually follow the black letter of the law provided in the Constitution that explicitly grants Congress the sole authority to declare war. This week I will introduce a concurrent resolution in the House to remind my colleagues and the administration that Congress alone, not the president, decides when to go to war. It is alarming how casually the administration talks about initiating acts of war, as though Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not exist. Frankly, it is not up to the President whether or not we intervene in Libya, or set up “no-fly” zones, or send troops. At least, it is not if we follow the Constitution. Even by the loose standards of the War Powers Resolution, which cedes far too much power to the president, he would have no authority to engage in hostilities because we have not been attacked — not by Gaddafi, and not by the rebels. This is not our fight. If the administration wants to make it our fight, let them make their case before Congress and put it to a vote. I would strongly oppose such a measure, but that is the proper way to proceed.
Constitutional questions aside, Congress also needs to consider the interests of the American people. Again, we have not been attacked. Whatever we may think about the Gaddafi regime, we must recognize that the current turmoil in Libya represents an attempted coup d’etat in a foreign country. Neither the coup leaders nor the regime pose an imminent threat to the United States and therefore, as much as we abhor violence and loss of life, this is simply none of our business. How can we commit our men and women in uniform to a dangerous military operation in Libya when they swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution? We must also understand that our intervention will undermine the legitimacy of whatever government prevails in Libya. Especially if it is a bad government, it will be seen as our puppet and further radicalize people in the region against us. These are terrible reasons to put our soldiers’ lives at risk.
Finally we need to consider the economic cost. We don’t have the money for more military interventions overseas. We don’t have the money for our current military interventions overseas. We have to rely on the Fed’s printing presses and our ability to borrow from China to fund these wars. That alone should put an end to any discussion about getting involved in Libya’s civil war.

I added Revelation 22 to Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

By Jeff Fenske

On February 17, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Who Goes to Heaven

I’ve added to Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?:
Revelation 22:

12 “Behold, I come quickly. My reward is with me, to repay to each man according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things to you for the assemblies.

'ONE'canhappen Milestone: 100 Posts on Who Goes To Heaven!

By Jeff Fenske

On February 7, 2011

In Personal, Who Goes to Heaven

All 100 of my Who Goes To Heaven posts

How many more do I need for ONE to happen?

I started researching this subject in 1975

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My baby that is as solid as a rock:

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way |
Who are the Children of God?

Kevin Conner on the Believer’s CONDITIONAL Security: "OBEDIENCE IS the very law of SECURITY for all created beings. There can be NO SUCH THING as UNCONDITIONAL security." — WARNINGS against backsliding SHOW that the security of the believer is conditional upon obedience and faith • What God has provided in Christ man must receive and apply • Divine SOVEREIGNTY and human RESPONSIBILITY meet together in the great redemptive plan • Christ is "the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY him"(Hebrews 5:9) • Upon HEARING and FOLLOWING the Shepherd they receive eternal life and will never perish • AS HE OBEYS the Word of the Lord his SECURITY against backsliding and apostacy is FULLY GUARANTEED

By Jeff Fenske

On February 7, 2011

In Abbott Loop CC / Unite Church, Doctrines Demystified, Who Goes to Heaven

Kevin Conner was one of my Bible teachers in Bible school at Abbott Loop Christian Center in 1984.

Kevin Conner

I hand copied this from the textbook we used: The Foundations of Christian Doctrine by Kevin J. Conner, 1980, page 264 (emphasis mine).
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VI. THE REALIZATION OF THE ATONEMENT

B. Application — Human Responsibility

We now examine the manward side of the atonement in its application. what God has provided in Christ, man must receive and apply. Divine sovereignty and human responsibility meet together in the great redemptive plan. …

4. Perseverance and Security

g. Conditional Security

The Scriptures teach the perseverance of the saints. Warnings against backsliding and the dangers of apostacy show that the security of the believer is conditional upon obedience and faith in the Lord Jesus. It has been said that “Christ came to redeem man back to the obedience from which Adam fell.”

The writer to the Hebrews says that Christ is “the author of eternal salvation (Greek “Soteria” safety, rescue, security, wholeness, health) unto all them that obey him” (Hebrews 5:9).

The redemptive work of Christ does not exempt man from obedience to the Word of God. This obedience is neither a forced nor a non-volitional obedience. Obedience is the very law of security for all created beings. There can be no such thing as unconditional security. The angels are secure upon continued obedience to God’s will and Word. The angels which fell disobeyed God’s law. Adam and Eve were secure upon obedience to the commandment of the Lord. When they fell it was through disobedience (Romans 5:12-21). All free-will creatures are under one basic law or commandment and that is the law of loving and willing obedience. Eternal life is given to the eternally obedient. A consideration of the references listed here show that God place this responsibility upon His people saying that if they obey His voice, then He will be their God and they will be HIs people (Genesis 22:18; 26:5; 27:8,13; Exodus19:5; 23:21-22; Deuteronomy 11:27-28; 30:2,8,20; Jeremiah 7:23; 11:4; Acts 5:32; Hebrews 5:9; Romans 6:17; 1 Peter 1:14, 22; Romans 15:18).

Jesus taught that the evidences of being His sheep are “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow me, and I give unto them eternal life; and they never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of My hand” (John 10:27-28). Both verses teach conditional security of the believer. Upon hearing and following the Shepherd they receive eternal life and will never perish.

It is the duty of the watchman to warn the wicked and the righteous, those without and within. The righteous are warned not to turn from their righteousness and do iniquity. If he die in his sins, all his righteousness shall not be remembered. This same principle is seen in both Old and New Testaments. The watchman is to exhort the believer to persevere in the Lord, to continue in the faith, and as he obeys the Word of the Lord, his security against backsliding and apostacy is fully guaranteed (Ezekiel 3:17-21; 18:19-32; 33:1-20; Matthew 7:15-23; II Thessalonians 3:3; Jude 24-25; I Corinthians 10:13; Philippians 1:6).

No believer need backslide or fall away from the faith, for the Lord Jesus is our advocate and intercessor. The Holy Spirit is our Comforter and indweller. the Lord gives the assurance that He “is able to keep you from falling and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy…” (Jude 24-25).

Charles Finney (1835): Instruction of Young Converts — “AIM AT BEING PERFECT. It should be their constant purpose to live wholly to God…. IF THEY SHOULD SIN it would be an inconsistency…. THEY OUGHT NOT TO SIN AT ALL; they are bound to be as holy as God is. And young converts should be taught to set out in the right course OR THEY WILL NEVER BE RIGHT”

Charles Finney: ETERNAL SECURITY is a TICKET TO HELL — “If a person gets the idea that because he is converted therefore he will assuredly go to heaven, that man will almost assuredly go to hell”

A.W. Tozer: There is ‘one sure way to escape the delusions of religion’ and be true Christians: “Receive Christ as Lord of our lives and begin to obey Him in everything. Submit to the truth and let it search us. Submit and obey…”

No Condemnation NOW so No Condemnation when we meet Jesus face to FACE — Hearts pure, smiling so big!!! FREEeeeeeeee———–DOM!!!!!!!

[WordPOWER!] 1 Timothy 6 — "Fight the good fight of faith. Lay hold of the eternal life to which you were called." "Charge those who are rich in this present world that they not be haughty, nor have their hope set on the uncertainty of riches…"

By Jeff Fenske

On February 7, 2011

In "The LOVE of MONEY", Doctrines Demystified, Doctrines of Demons?, Lust Freedom!, Who Goes to Heaven, WordPOWER

1 Timothy 6

3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn’t consent to sound words, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, 4 he is conceited, knowing nothing, but obsessed with arguments, disputes, and word battles, from which come envy, strife, insulting, evil suspicions, 5 constant friction of people of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. Withdraw yourself from such. 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we certainly can’t carry anything out. 8 But having food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9 But those who are determined to be rich fall into a temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful lusts, such as drown men in ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some have been led astray from the faith in their greed, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But you, man of God, flee these things, and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, and gentleness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith. Lay hold of the eternal life to which you were called, and you confessed the good confession in the sight of many witnesses. 13 I command you before God, who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate testified the good confession, 14 that you keep the commandment without spot, blameless, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ; 15 which in its own times he will show, who is the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amen.

17 Charge those who are rich in this present world that they not be haughty, nor have their hope set on the uncertainty of riches, but on the living God, who richly provides us with everything to enjoy; 18 that they do good, that they be rich in good works, that they be ready to distribute, willing to communicate; 19 laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold of eternal life.

20 Timothy, guard that which is committed to you, turning away from the empty chatter and oppositions of the knowledge which is falsely so called; 21 which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with you. Amen.

[WordPOWER!] 1 Timothy 4:1 — "The Spirit says expressly that IN LATER TIMES some will FALL AWAY from the faith, paying attention to SEDUCING SPIRITS and DOCTRINES OF DEMONS"

By Jeff Fenske

On February 7, 2011

In Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Demons in Christians?, Doctrines of Demons?, Lying, Who Goes to Heaven, WordPOWER

1 Timothy 4

1 But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron; 3 forbidding marriage and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with thanksgiving. 5 For it is sanctified through the word of God and prayer.

What about the thief on the cross? He wasn't required to do works | 'Sweaty ministry' VS "Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me…"

By Jeff Fenske

On February 7, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Personal, Who Goes to Heaven

A few days ago, I heard a person use “the thief on the cross” as biblical evidence that we don’t have to do anything except ‘believe’ to go to heaven. Here is my response, starting with:

Dan Corner’s response to an email (Google’s cached version of www.evangelicaloutreach.org/emails092709.htm)

(EMAIL) If works and turning away from your sin’s along with the output of works is necessary for salvation then explain the salvation received by the thief on the cross next to Jesus that simply believed and Jesus told him plainly “that today you will be with me in paradise.” The thief did not have an opportunity to turn from his sin’s or perform works [I explain ‘works’ below – jeff]. So, Please if you could explain to me his salvation or maybe you’re suggesting that he wasn’t saved at all and Jesus was a liar incapable of securing this man’s salvation by simple belief. Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response.

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. The ONLY way that thief could have gotten forgiven (which is what happened) was for him to repent (turn from his sins). In his HEART he turned away from wickedness and essentially asked Jesus for mercy. If he didn’t he could not have been forgiven. Jesus taught one MUST repent (Lk. 13:3,5; 24:47; etc.) just as his disciples did (Acts 3:19; 20:21; 26:20) to get forgiven. He sincerely and humbly asked for mercy as he repented. See also Lk. 18:13,14. His spiritual identity changed from “thief” to “righteous” in a moment’s time and he was therefore of the PURE HEART needed to enter “Paradise.” The sins that were dragging him to eternal fire were forgiven INSTANTLY. Had he been able to come down from the cross he would have proven his repentance by his deeds (Acts 26:20).

Paul says in Acts 26:20

19 “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20 but declared first to them of Damascus, at Jerusalem, and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, doing works worthy of repentance.

Clarifying a few things
How can Paul speak against works while hear and elsewhere speaking for them?
When Paul said we’re not justified by works, he was talking about the works of the law. Now we are to be led by the Spirit, walking according to the Spirit. See Romans 8:1a&b (b is missing in most modern ‘Bibles’) in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?. We’re not talking about “I have to do this today to go to heaven.” I never think that way, personally. I do this website because it’s natural for me. I have a burden on my heart. I’m afraid for us if we don’t get ONE happening soon, before it’s too late for many, because a crash course can’t happen at the last minute,” because people are so full of demons, God said 10 years ago. “Do you realize that what is to come is so full of wrath, and you want to be on the winning side at all costs.”
From my prophecy Let Us Be ONE, Part 23 of 33

Failed Churches…Hate that Destroys the Yoke of Unity

There is much to learn. Many have gone awry. Many despair, thinking they know the answers, but they don’t work. You’ve seen it, churches that failed, and then there are others that mock but look pretty as you stand inside. But you can feel the muck.

Look around; see the light that wants to illuminate all who remain steadfast, not moving where they say, but doing what is right—a love of a different kind. Not regulations that kill and destroy the life I have for everybody, but a new way.

Hope for iniquity to be found out, so we can become clean as a body. Pray for it: the anger to cease, the hate that destroys the yoke of unity. It is a yukky, terrible thing, full of lies that destroy: that we can be one and still have love when hate lingers, festering.

Listen. See My face. It is above, full of anger at My church when they hate. I hate wrath that is unholy, that is directed at those inside who obey.

Jealousy, there is so much. Why not pray? Why not be like Me. Do you realize that what is to come is so full of wrath, and you want to be on the winning side at all costs.

Give your life to Me, now, while there is still time to prepare. If you wait, others cannot take you into where you belong. A crash course can’t happen at the last minute, enough to get you in, because you are festering with demons.

Your heart won’t change if you let rebellion keep you from Me now. Now is the day of salvation. Why wait?

There is a balance here, which I don’t talk or think about much. It is in the Bible that if we harden our hearts to not help people in need we’ll be a goat, not a sheep, for example in Keith Green’s song: [1978 concert video] Keith Green debunked LUTHER’S FALSE SALVATION DOCTRINE that’s now MAINSTREAM in America. Let’s get it right!
The main thing is to keep our hearts right, or our religion is worthless. We abide in Christ, and do what comes naturally, getting the sap from Him, bearing much fruit that remains (John 15).
I’ve been recently thinking about what the second part of what James says pure religion is: “to keep oneself unstained by the world.” But he also has a first part, visiting the fatherless and the widows.

James 1

12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation, for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life, which the Lord promised to those who love him. 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God,” for God can’t be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one. 14 But each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death. 16 Don’t be deceived, my beloved brothers. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.

19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger; 20 for the anger of man doesn’t produce the righteousness of God. 21 Therefore, putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with humility the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be doers of the word, and not only hearers, deluding your own selves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he sees himself, and goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of freedom, and continues, not being a hearer who forgets, but a doer of the work, this man will be blessed in what he does.

26 If anyone among you thinks himself to be religious while he doesn’t bridle his tongue, but deceives his heart, this man’s religion is worthless. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

When we do what in the new covenant have replaced the 10 commandments, the greatest two commandments — loving the Lord, our God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength, and loving our neighbors as ourselves, we keep our hearts pure, and our religion is worth a lot! It’s pure and undefiled. We need to radically depart from what is mainstream ‘Christianity’ today, which doesn’t teach that we have to keep ourselves unstained by the world, so this religion is worthless.
What each of us then do will be what God puts on our hearts to do. For example, I’m not a helps person. I’m not gifted with the “gift of helps” (1 Cor. 12:28), but I am gifted in doing this, having other 1-Cor.-12 gifts.
We should all do what is natural for us to do when we are resting in God from dead works and worldly goals, being right with God and all of our fellow man = peace. What we do will feel right, and there will be some joy from God in doing it. This isn’t a sweaty ministry.
I remember a Bible teacher at Abbott Loop, teaching in the early ’80s talking about sweaty ministries versus in-Christ, flowing-from-the-Vine ministries. Sweaty ministry is doing things for God on our own. This could be doing things we were never called to do, but think we have to do them. Or it could be doing what we’re supposed to do but while not being right in our hearts with God and our neighbors.
Everything should flow from Him. Life should be a joy!
Purity of the heart is the main thing that matters, abiding in the Son, keeping ourselves unstained by the world. That’s why in Paul’s most comprehensive who-goes-to-hell list in Galatians 5, Paul doesn’t mention a lack of works. He lists things that defile a man’s heart. While what he lists in in his “Those who are Christ’s” list aren’t works to be done, but the resulting clean heart from leading an undefiled life, resting in God.
Resting in God is resting from our own works to do His, which is an easy yoke, a light burden in comparison to heavily burdened sweaty ministries, not resting in the Son.
Jesus in Matthew 11

28 “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavily burdened [doing sweaty ministries – Jeff], and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart; and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

Two more things about the thief on the cross:
One is that the Holy Spirit had not yet been given. The thief was still under the old covenant, and we must keep this distinction in mind when using pre-Pentecost examples to determine what is true for us, who now can walk according to the Spirit. Things were much different prior to Pentecost.
I don’t think this hermeneutical principle makes a big difference in this case, but it does in others, such as Judas. Some say that Judas was an example of losing his salvation and going to Hell, which then shows we can lose ours also. I definitely believe we can lose our salvation (I think most are currently in this state), but I won’t use Judas as proof, or any other pre-Pentecost people.
Conversely, I also point out that the Pharisee who Jesus told to tithe was still under the old covenant. So it a violation of hermeneutical principles to apply what Jesus said to him to us.
This thief-on-the-cross subject reminds me of what Dick Benjamin once said from the pulpit at Abbott Loop Christian Center (now called Abbott Loop Community Church — Dick Benjamin the founder). Dick used to minister at the rescue mission, and he said they used to say this about how to keep the street people that were converted from losing their salvation. I think they would see the same people respond to the altar calls repeatedly.
They would say that maybe the only way for these street people to not lose their salvation would be like three stations. The person would get saved, then they’d submerge them in the baptismal tank, and then put them on the electric chair. Otherwise they’d go right back to their sin.
In reality, it is possible for a person to sincerely repent and dedicate their lives to Christ and then go right out and commit sins leading to death. I’ve seen it in jail ministry, for example. But probably what happens more often is the people don’t fully repent and fully commit to live for Christ. The prayer must be sincere. And for many non-street truly born-again ‘Christians’ who I know. I think at one time they were committed to living holy, but the once-saved-always-saved doctrine has watered down Christianity so much that they have over time backslid to where they are no longer resting-in-God disciples of Christ.
Many of these born-again ‘Christians’ have since hurt many people who they now need to get right with before they can again rest in God. This is the bad fruit that comes from the OSAS doctrine. Had the truth about who goes to heaven been preached, many would not be in the predicament they are now in: afraid of what men will think when they apologize while afraid of what God thinks if they don’t.
Most are letting the fear of man override the fear of God — including most pastors.
Frank used to say in Bible school: we can either fall on the Rock or the Rock will fall on us.
We better fall on the Rock real soon, you all or the Rock will fall on us and then it will be too late to get right with those we’ve hurt. Now is the day of repentance, while we still have the ability to do what we need to do.
All it would take is two EMP nukes over America and 9o-95% of the people would die within months, it’s predicted. And I had a dream about all cars stopping in Anchorage. We are that vulnerable. Imagine life without electricity, water, food, heat, transportation, …. This is the predicament we’re in. And the missiles probably wouldn’t be Al Queda, but rather China or Russia. China may have successfully launched one already. This is no joke. We’re living on the edge!

A shot across the bow: Missile expert says southern California projectile was a foreign-made cruise or ICBM missile launched from a submarine

ONE needs to happen now — while we still have the internet and the ability to meet in small and large groups.
I can’t wait to see large groups meeting all in Christ — lifting up truly holy hands in unison to God our Father Who loves us so much — and Who has given us His standards so we can be free in Him, right with each other.
“This is no joke.” Don’t be deceived. We must be right with each other for ONE to happen — clean hearted!
Jeff Fenske

[WordPOWER!] John 3:16 Means What?? 3:21, 36 show that 'BELIEVE' means OBEY — "He who DOES the TRUTH comes to the light, that HIS WORKS may be REVEALED, that they have been DONE IN GOD."

By Jeff Fenske

On February 3, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Doctrines of Demons?, Who Goes to Heaven, WordPOWER

John 3

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 He who believes in him is not judged. He who doesn’t believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. 19 This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn’t come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God.”

22 After these things, Jesus came with his disciples into the land of Judea. He stayed there with them, and baptized. 23 John also was baptizing in Enon near Salim, because there was much water there. They came, and were baptized. 24 For John was not yet thrown into prison.

25 There arose therefore a questioning on the part of John’s disciples with some Jews about purification. 26 They came to John, and said to him, “Rabbi, he who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified, behold, the same baptizes, and everyone is coming to him.” 27 John answered, “A man can receive nothing, unless it has been given him from heaven. 28 You yourselves testify that I said, ‘I am not the Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent before him.’ 29 He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. This, my joy, therefore is made full. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He who comes from above is above all. He who is from the Earth belongs to the Earth, and speaks of the Earth. He who comes from heaven is above all. 32 What he has seen and heard, of that he testifies; and no one receives his witness. 33 He who has received his witness has set his seal to this, that God is true. 34 For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for God gives the Spirit without measure. 35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand. 36 One who believes in the Son has eternal life, but one who disobeys the Son won’t see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

(video) Pastor DIES > goes to HELL because he HADN’T FORGIVEN his wife > AROSE from the dead almost 2 days later > tells story

By Jeff Fenske

On February 3, 2011

In Biblically Disqualified Leaders?, Doctrines Demystified, Forgive & Be FREE, Getting Right with Each Other, Hell is Real - Forever!, No Enemy, Who Goes to Heaven

Mark 11:26 “But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your transgressions.”

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From: Amazon

[DVD] Raised from the Dead

This is the remarkable story of a Nigerian pastor, Daniel Ekechukwu, who was fatally injured in a car accident near the town of Onitsha, Nigeria, Africa on November 30th, 2001. During a dramatic journey to a hospital in Owerri, Nigeria, he lost all life signs and was later pronounced dead by two different medical staff in two different hospitals. The latter wrote a Medical report and commissioned the corpse to the mortuary. But Daniel´s wife remembered a verse in Scripture from Hebrews 11: “Women received their dead raised to life again.” She heard about a meeting where Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke was going to preach, and proceeded by bringing Daniel´s body in his coffin. What follows is a story you will never forget.

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Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

The angel told Daniel in heaven: “Jesus has finished his work. The mansions are ready, but the saints are not ready.”

“We are now going to visit Hell.”

“Daniel, if the book of your life was to be closed today, this would be your portion.”

“No, I’m a pastor; I’m a child of God. I’m born-again — and I’ve preached all over….”

“Enough, Daniel, on your way to the first hospital, you were asking God to forgive you, but you would not forgive your wife. And your sins have not been forgiven. It is a matter of reaping what you’ve sown. You cannot sow unforgiveness to your wife and reap forgiveness from God.”

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Daniel Ekechukwu – Raised from the dead (He was taken to Heaven and Hell

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Pastor Ekechukwu was from a city called Onitsha (Nigeria), where he was the pastor of Power Chapel Evangelical Church.

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Nigerian pastor Daniel Ekechukwu physically died in the late evening of Friday, November 30th, 2001, was dead for at least 42 hours, visited heaven and hell during the time of his physical death, and was raised from the dead between 3:50 P.M. and 5:15 P.M. on Sunday, December 2nd, 2001 in the basement of the Grace of God Mission, located in Onitsha, Nigeria.

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Report One of Four
Pastor Daniel Ekechukwu and his Resurrection from the Dead
By David Servant

Soon after it occurred in December of 2001, I heard the report of Nigerian pastor Daniel Ekechukwu’s resurrection via e-mail from my friend, pastor David K. Aboderin, of Lagos, Nigeria. …. I wanted to learn more about the incident.

[…]

The most surprising thing is what happened next. The escorting angel told pastor Daniel, “If your record is to be called here, you will in no doubt be thrown into hell.” Pastor Daniel immediately defended himself saying, “I am a man of God! I serve Him with all my heart!” But a Bible appeared in the angel’s hand, and it was opened to Matthew 5 where Jesus warned that if one calls his brother a fool he is guilty enough to go into the hell of fire (see Matt. 5:21-22). Pastor Daniel knew he was guilty for the angry words he had spoken to his wife. The angel also reminded him that Jesus promised that God will not forgive our sins if we do not forgive others (see Matt. 6:14-15), because we will reap what we have sown. Only those who are merciful will obtain mercy (Matt 5:7). The angel told Daniel that the prayers he prayed as he was dying in the hospital were of no effect, because he refused to forgive his wife even when she attempted to reconcile on the morning of his fatal accident.

Pastor Daniel wept at this revelation, but the angel told him not to cry, because God was going to send him back to the earth to grant the rich man’s request (see Luke 16:27-30). A man would come back from the dead and warn people of hell. The angel said that Daniel’s resurrection would serve as a sign and be the last warning for this generation.

[…]

As you may imagine, pastor Daniel greatly emphasizes in his preaching the need to forgive those who have wronged us, lest anyone suffer the fate he almost suffered. How important it is that we obey Jesus’ commandments regarding forgiveness and walking in love toward each other, as well as all the rest of His commandments. It is indeed time for the church to repent and “pursue peace with all men, and the holiness without which no one will see the Lord” (Heb. 12:14). Do not listen to false teachers who say that holiness is not essential to ultimately gain eternal life. Jesus warned that only those who do the will of His Father will enter the kingdom of heaven (see Matt. 7:21). Do not listen to teachers who say that if you are once saved you are guaranteed that you will always be saved. Jesus warned His closest disciples (see Matt. 24:1-3) of the possibility of their not being ready when He returned and being cast into hell (see Matt. 24:42-25:46).

If we expect God to forgive us, we must forgive others. That is what Jesus solemnly promised. Are you ready to stand before Jesus, sincere and blameless?

Entire Article Here
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Report Two of Four
Pastor Daniel Ekechukwu Resurrection and the Need for Forgiveness and Repentance
by David Servant

What about the theological implications of Daniel’s experience in hell? …

Certainly the one aspect of Daniel’s experience in hell that is the most sobering was the angel’s declaration that Daniel would have ended up there because of his unforgiveness (if God had not had mercy on him). …

In pastor Daniel’s case, his wife had sought for reconciliation, Daniel had refused her, and then he experienced his ill-timed death. Thank God that He had mercy on Daniel, and in so doing, God has shown His mercy to all of us who are not ready to stand before Him because of unforgiveness in our hearts. …

We, too, should maintain an “open-heart” policy, always doing what we can to be at peace with others. In this regard, Paul wrote, “If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men” (Rom. 12:18). Both Jesus and Stephen prayed for God to forgive the very people who were killing them. We, too, have the same capacity to love by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Pastor Daniel Ekechukwu is now calling Christians to do what Christ has been commanding all His followers to do for two thousand years: forgive one another. And he is doing it with the passion of a man who really believes that Jesus meant what He said.

Entire Article Here
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The Daniel Ekechukwu Reports
[Book] The GREAT GOSPEL DECEPTION by David A. Servant — “Only when the church does embrace the gospel of Jesus and His apostles will there be any hope of true revival”
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[book – audio – video] Mary K. Baxter: A Divine Revelation of Hell — “There is greater punishment for those who once preached the gospel and went back into sin, or for those who would not obey the call of God for their lives”
Mary K. Baxter’s Divine Revelation of Hell: We Must Be Right With God — “Lord,” I said, “You mean your servants are here?” “Yes,” said Jesus, “Servants that would not stand for the truth and for holiness. It is better that one never starts than to turn back after beginning to serve Me.”

[Book] The GREAT GOSPEL DECEPTION by David A. Servant — "Only when the church does embrace the gospel of Jesus and His apostles will there be any hope of true revival"

By Jeff Fenske

On February 3, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Revival, Who Goes to Heaven

From: heavensfamily.org…

Cheap Grace

Running from War to Hear Good News All of the links below will take you to consecutive chapters of a book by David Servant titled The Great Gospel Deception. This book examines the modern gospel that is so popular in America and around the globe, but that is often lacking when compared to the gospel of the Bible. The primary difference is that the modern gospel portrays a grace that is foreign to Scripture, a grace that is actually a license to sin. Whereas the gospel of the Bible reveals a grace from God that offers people a limited time to repent and a promise of freedom from sin. Jesus told the woman caught in adultery, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more” (John 8:11). You can be certain that if that woman continued in her sin, when she stood at Christ’s judgment seat after her death, she did not hear the same words again. Likewise, God is graciously giving every person a limited opportunity to repent, so that each person will stand before Him forgiven and striving to follow Him to “enter though the narrow gate” (Matt. 7:13).

You are welcome to download, print, copy, distribute or transmit these documents by any means, as long as the documents are unaltered and kept their entirety, and are not sold for profit. © David Servant

The Unrighteous Shall Not Inherit
This introduction and first chapter lay a biblical foundation that proves that heaven is only for obedient followers of Christ, no matter how much faith they may claim to have. True saving faith is followed by works of obedience. Truly born-again people are set free from sin’s dominion.

The Immoral “Christian”
This chapter shows that no immoral person, even if he claims to be a Christian, will enter heaven. This chapter also exposes the hypocrisy of many professing Christians who appear outwardly pure but inwardly are lustful and thus heading for hell.

The Greedy “Christian”
This chapter defines what greed is (you may be surprised) and shows that no greedy person will enter heaven. Jesus warned that many who think they are His sheep really are goats, and their true nature is revealed by what they do with their money. Greedy people are actually idolaters. This chapter also outlines practical steps for better stewardship.

The Uncommitted “Christian”
This fourth chapter exposes the false belief that one can be a believer in Christ without being a disciple of Christ. True Christians are committed to Jesus and deny themselves for His sake and the sake of the gospel. This chapter also considers modern teaching regarding so-called “carnal Christians.”

The Antinomian “Christian”
Many professing Christians unfortunately think that because salvation is received by faith, keeping God’s laws has nothing to do with salvation. Scripture teaches, however, that faith and works cannot be separated. What many today call legalism, God calls “the holiness without which no one will see the Lord” (Heb. 12:14).

Jesus’ Greatest Salvation Sermon
The Sermon on the Mount is Jesus’ longest sermon of record, in which Jesus makes it very clear that only those who do the will of His Father will enter the kingdom of heaven. He warned that our righteousness must exceed that of the Scribes and Pharisees or hell is our destiny. In this important sermon, Jesus revealed that His followers must possess an inward holiness that manifests itself outward actions.

Jesus’ Greatest Salvation Sermon Continues
Christians are not “under the law of Moses,” but they are definitely “under the law of Christ.” Jesus continues to expound upon His law in the Sermon on the Mount.

Sanctification: Perfecting Holiness
Salvation begins with repentance and continues with on-going repentance, the process known as progressive sanctification. True believers “hunger and thirst for righteousness,” and this hunger is evident by their disciplining themselves for the purpose of godliness. This chapter lists every commandment Jesus has given us to obey.

Striving Against Sin
We grow in holiness as we cooperate, as an act of our will, with the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Beware of False Teachers
Jesus warned us that the outstanding characteristic of false teachers is their diminishing the importance of holiness. We are told by Jesus to look at the example that spiritual leaders are setting before us and know if they are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

The Assurance of Salvation
It is possible to be assured right now if we are truly saved, and in his first epistle, John tells us three tests by which we can make that determination. He makes it clear that there is definitely a link between obedience to the Lord and possession assurance of our salvation.

Revival When?
This final chapter is an impassioned cry for the church’s return to a biblical gospel that calls people to a living faith that actually saves. Only when the church does embrace the gospel of Jesus and His apostles will there be any hope of true revival.

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How CLEAN do our HEARTS have to be from the Hebrews-12 root of bitterness that defiles many so they lose their reward? Where is the place of SAFETY — RESTING, KNOWING for SURE we're going to heaven? Selah …

By Jeff Fenske

On January 30, 2011

In Demons in Christians?, Doctrines Demystified, Forgive & Be FREE, Getting Right with Each Other, heart, soul, mind, gut?, Personal, Who Goes to Heaven

[Updated 1/31]

What about K-Love
“positive/encouraging”
where everything is okay?

Jeff, aren’t you being legalistic?

Do I always have to wonder?

What does the Bible really say?

This is the place of rest.

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I’ve been thinking about this text lately and applying it to my own life — Hebrews 12:

How do we make sure we have no root of bitterness in our hearts that will defile us?
I’ll start with the Lord’s prayer, including the words after the Amen. Jesus established that if we don’t forgive those who sin against us, our Father won’t forgive our sins. Matthew 6:9-15

Pray like this:

‘Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy.

Let your Kingdom come. Let your will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.

Give us today our daily bread.

Forgive us our debts, as we also forgive our debtors.

Bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

For yours is the Kingdom, the power, and the glory forever. Amen.’

“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you don’t forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

The writer to Hebrews states that we need to look carefully to make sure we don’t have a root of bitterness that will defile us so that we’ll fall short of the grace of God [The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?]. We won’t see the Lord unless we follow after peace with all people, “and the sanctification…. Hebrews 12

14 Follow after peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no man will see the Lord, 15 looking carefully lest there be any man who falls short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and many be defiled by it; 16 lest there be any sexually immoral person, or profane person, like Esau, who sold his birthright for one meal. 17 For you know that even when he afterward desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for a change of mind though he sought it diligently with tears. …

25 See that you don’t refuse him who speaks. For if they didn’t escape when they refused him who warned on the Earth, how much more will we not escape who turn away from him who warns from heaven, 26 whose voice shook the earth then, but now he has promised, saying, “Yet once more I will shake not only the earth, but also the heavens.” 27 This phrase, “Yet once more,” signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that have been made, that those things which are not shaken may remain. 28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can’t be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe, 29 for our God is a consuming fire.

I’ve been thinking a lot about this root of bitterness lately. It’s probably an actual demonic stronghold like the love of money which is the root of all evil. We’re supposed to look carefully to see if one exists inside. How is our heart. Are we wishing well of everyone? Do we want all who we know to overcome? It’s so easy to be defiled. Luther didn’t like Hebrews, which disagreed with his false grace doctrine, so he called it a subordinate book Martin Luther’s Subordinate Bible Books: Hebrews, James, Jude & Revelation. And much of the modern ‘grace’ teaching is based on Luther’s false doctrine. But we need to go by what the Bible really says. “Work out your salvation through fear and trembling” (Paul) is similar to verse 28, above. I get the sense that many knee-jerk react to the truth about the fear of God and how clean the Bible says we need to really be, but consider if the truth would have been taught us from little on — and our parents would have been taught the truth too — going back generations. It would then be normal to check our hearts to make we don’t have a root of bitterness that is defiling us. I’m learning that a good test for me is how I react when a driver on the road treats me meanly. What’s going on in my heart? Whatever it is, we should be examining ourselves to make sure we are root-of-bitterness free. Do we love our enemies, all of our neighbors as ourselves? If we’re Christians, through God’s grace we will. Otherwise, we should be fearful that we’re not in a safe place with God, on our way to heaven. I don’t often get prophecies for people, but have on rare occasions. A few days ago, I was reading through a long prophecy I got for a pastor years ago. Many ‘Christians’ have trouble with the concept that God will judge and not allow in heaven those who willfully hurt others, and I must say I’ve at times struggled with this. But reading this word again really helped me understand God’s heart. God is so for this man doing well. He was incredibly encouraging, while also being absolutely serious about how this man is in sincere danger unless he repents of hating others, including James-3 cursing them. God told him even how high the flames would be, and he said:

Show them the way into repentance, and I will give you a crown of life, forever with Me. Otherwise you are in danger of hellfire and brimstone around your neck. That high will the flames be. Can you bear it, for all eternity? This is the price you will pay. I’m serious, My son. Forgive, or you will be tormented forever in underground magma, fires that will lick your sides. It is no joke. You teach not truth and expect to go to heaven. I have a different way, for I call the shots, and you will go down if you disbelieve. This is not right. Obey and you will go high. You choose. Now you know and are responsible for your actions. Will you come with Me? Seek My face in horror of failure and you will be wise. Ignore this and peril will take over your life. You choose. There is no better way.

Christianity isn’t a hobby. Abiding in Christ isn’t an option. Teachers will get a stricter judgment, and this man negatively affected many, but we’ll all go down if we don’t keep our hearts pure. It doesn’t matter what Luther said, or what pastors like this man above say. What matters is what God’s word says. I recently heard a ‘grace’ pastor say that most ‘Christians’ feel condemnation inside. If we don’t feel right inside, we should be very concerned. Romans 8:

There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

If we feel condemnation we shouldn’t brush it off as just ‘conviction,’ like the false grace teachers teach. We should be thankful that the Holy Spirit is warning us so we get right with whomever we’re hurt (or whatever it is) so we can feel right before God. This morning, I thought I need to test my heart to see if it’s easy to love God with all of my heart. I don’t always, but often I’ll color the word heart in my posts (I’ll stop now because I’ve made my point). I’m trying to help people realize that the heart is an actual place in our bodies. It’s the center of our emotions. It can also be the center of sin problems, which is why we need to forgive everyone from our hearts, not just our heads. Science has discovered that the heart is more than a pump. It has brainlike tissue. Even the gut does somewhat. We feel emotions deeply, and this all must be clean, not lusting after humans in our heart, or unforgiving people from our heart. I was making sure this morning that I could easily love God from my entire heart. It was easy. But honestly, there probably were many times as a ‘Christian’ when I probably wouldn’t have passed this Greatest Commandment test: Love the Lord, your God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength. Lovers say to their lover: “I love you from the bottom of my heart.” Can we say that to God? I think this is a legitimate test, and I’m talking about the actual heart area, and even below in the depths of our soul, which may be the gut, where brainlike tissue also is, where we often also feel emotion deeply. This subject is why I have the “heart, soul, mind, gut? category in the pull-down menu on the right. We only have this one chance to get it right. It’s popular to just go with the “never let go” heresy that prevails on the radio and from the pulpits. “Don’t worry, be happy,” when we should be worried, unless our heart is clean. The writer to Hebrews talks about how we should make sure to enter into our rest. There should be peace in our hearts. If we’re not resting in our hearts, let’s find out why not? God will show us; we probably already know who we need to forgive, who we need to say we’re sorry to. The Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth, regardless of what the mainstream preachers say. What does the Bible say? How in the world did it become so popular to not investigate the Bible to make sure we’re being taught the truth — the way, it was called in early Christendom? John gives us practical advice as to how we know we know we have eternal life. 1 John

1 Behold, how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn’t know us, because it didn’t know him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God, and it is not yet revealed what we will be. But we know that, when he is revealed, we will be like him; for we will see him just as he is. 3 Everyone who has this hope set on him purifies himself, even as he is pure.

4 Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he was revealed to take away our sins, and in him is no sin. 6 Whoever remains in him doesn’t sin. Whoever sins hasn’t seen him, neither knows him. 7 Little children, let no one lead you astray. He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever is born of God doesn’t commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can’t sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn’t do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn’t love his brother.

11 For this is the message which you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another; 12 unlike Cain, who was of the evil one, and killed his brother. Why did he kill him? Because his works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.

13 Don’t be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. He who doesn’t love his brother remains in death. 15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life remaining in him. 16 By this we know love, because he laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. 17 But whoever has the world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and closes his heart of compassion against him, how does the love of God remain in him? 18 My little children, let’s not love in word only, neither with the tongue only, but in deed and truth. 19 And by this we know that we are of the truth, and persuade our hearts before him, 20 because if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things. 21 Beloved, if our hearts don’t condemn us, we have boldness toward God; 22 and whatever we ask, we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do the things that are pleasing in his sight.

1 John has long been a mystery to me, because in places John seems to contradict himself. I still don’t understand it all, but I’m getting closer. Most of the ‘church’ seems to major on 1 John 1:8-9, which just about everyone knows, but 1:8-9 isn’t the theme of 1 John at all. Holiness and not sinning is in order to be real Christians. If we do sin, we confess our sin, get it right, and then go right back into our rest with God and each other, life in the Son — where we love our brother — where we make sure no hate exists. And then:

if our hearts don’t condemn us, we have boldness toward God; 22 and whatever we ask, we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do the things that are pleasing in his sight.

But this isn’t happening yet in our ‘Christian’ communities. Why not? Could this be one of the tests Francis Frangipane is talking about: Francis Frangipane: Beware, It is Easy to Fake Christianity — “The moment we STOP OBEYING God we START FAKING . . . .” “If our Christianity DOES NOT WORK in this life where we can test it, it is foolhardy to hope it will successfully transport us into eternity . . . if we fail THE TEST, we suffer eternal separation from God.” “Let us re-examine what we have been taught.” When we have God’s standards set before us, we can be free internally, resting in Him. There won’t be internal strife. We can know for sure. When a group of us are at peace inside, then God can show up, and His glory will help us to even more fully be ONE with each other in Him. (John 17) I’m not the enemy. Some see me as the enemy. How could Jeff be right when almost everyone else is saying “I’m okay, you’re okay;” “Don’t worry, be happy.” But hardly anyone is happy because hardly anyone is okay. This is the Devil putting everyone to sleep through positive/encouraging K-Love. Exhortation is out of vogue. And now we’re losing our country and our comfy way of life. Am I being legalistic, or just biblical? I’m only saying what the Bible really says, and if we did what the Bible said we’d be so happy, full of life in Christ! Most are still under the mistaken notion that the new covenant requires either less than the old covenant, or requires nothing at all: grace + nothing is the jingle. These are lies. Those in the old covenant were under the law, now we are to be led by the Spirit. We have a greater anointing to fulfill this higher requirement to be led by the Holy Spirit to actually love our neighbors as ourselves. Galatians 5

14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, be careful that you don’t consume one another.

16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

If we have peace in our hearts we “belong to Christ.”
“Which list are you in?” We must always make sure we are fully in list #2 (verses 22-24). In list #2 is rest. If we’re not fully in it we should be worried and fearful and make sure we get right back in — our place of safety in God.
List #2 is that rest that the writer to Hebrews talks about.
List #2 is the ~”how we know we have eternal life” in 1 John.
This is the place of no condemnation that Paul discusses in Romans 8:1a & b (and b is for those who still read the NIV, NASB, etc.)
List #2 is the place of safety in Christ that we should all be in 24/7 — ONE with each other in Christ!
All other ground is sinking sand.
Let’s be ONE!
Jeff : )
[NOTE: many of these other articles apply as well, like making sure we’re right with those we’ve hurt.]
Related:
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’m free!’” Many need to get right with people they’ve hurt to be free! Then God can move!

Let that Dirty Thing Go, The Monster That Hides Inside

Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. “There’s a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND.” “There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it.” “Let’s go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR.”
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.”
The meaning of “Grace” (χαρις) in the Bible: It’s not what you think?
How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%!?!!
‘CARNAL’ CHRISTIANS – Saved or Not?
“We Must Be Holy” by J. C. Ryle (1816-1900)
The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled!
Martin Luther’s Subordinate Bible Books: Hebrews, James, Jude & Revelation
Luther: Let us BANISH the epistle of James, for it is ‘WORTHLESS’ — written by a non-Christian and can’t be reconciled with Paul
Francis Frangipane: Beware, It is Easy to Fake Christianity — “The moment we stop obeying God we start faking . . . .” “If our Christianity does not work in this life where we can test it, it is foolhardy to hope it will successfully transport us into eternity . . . if we fail the test, we suffer eternal separation from God.” “Let us re-examine what we have been taught.”
A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls)
I’ve finally shared much of what I know about and what can be done through the TREMENDOUS and mostly misunderstood and underused gift of tongues. A reader thankfully put me over the edge : )
THE PATRISTIC INTERPRETATION of ROMANS 7:14-25 — The early church did not understand Rom 7:14-25 to teach the necessity of sin in believers
[1978 concert video] Keith Green debunked LUTHER’S FALSE SALVATION DOCTRINE that’s now MAINSTREAM in America. Let’s get it right!
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “Let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned.”
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
[WordPOWER!] Jesus Ups the Ante – Matthew 5:21-22: “YOU HAVE HEARD that it was said…, ‘You shall not murder’…. BUT I TELL YOU, that everyone who is ANGRY with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment”
[WordPOWER!] Jesus Ups the Ante – Matthew 5:27-30: “YOU HAVE HEARD that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery;’ BUT I TELL YOU that everyone who GAZES at a woman to LUST after her has committed ADULTERY with her already in his heart. …your whole body to be CAST INTO GEHENNA.”
[WordPOWER!] Acts 17:30-31 God Upped the Ante when He Sent the Holy Spirit — “The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent…”
Wes Hall: “Beloved, grace has nothing to do with freedom to sin. … Grace is the power to be free from sin. … Examine yourself to see if you are in the faith.”
Military BOOT CAMP kills the conscience so soldiers can do evil without being convicted in their hearts
WITHOUT REVIVAL THE PEOPLE PERISH: Why the Present Church Doctrine Makes Revival Unlikely [Or Why Sound Doctrine Would Make Revival Likely]
BE YE THEREFORE PERFECT (Matthew 5:48): Thirty-eight Sermonettes on SIN, SALVATION

What the Lord’s Prayer really says about FORGIVING. Jesus made it clear right after “Amen”: “IF YOU DON’T forgive…” VS. Luther’s Catechism: “God forgives WITHOUT CONDITION,” forgiving even “REVENGE!!!”
[Lust FREEDOM — “The Poison that Kills the Soul”] My experience: How DEMONS DRIVE heterosexual and homosexual lust in ‘Christians’ — The bad news is that demons drive lust. The good news is that demons drive lust, because…
[WordPOWER!] In Psalm 50 God Warns: “You have done these things, and I kept silent. You thought that I was just like you. … Now consider this…lest I tear you into pieces and there be none to deliver” (Hell?)
“Grace”: To Give You Life to Overcome—Not a License to Sin
All of my Who Goes to Heaven Posts

Francis Frangipane: Beware, It is Easy to Fake Christianity — "The moment we STOP OBEYING God we START FAKING . . . ." "If our Christianity DOES NOT WORK in this life where we can test it, it is foolhardy to hope it will successfully transport us into eternity . . . if we fail THE TEST, we suffer eternal separation from God." "Let us re-examine what we have been taught."

By Jeff Fenske

On January 28, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Doctrines of Demons?, Who Goes to Heaven

Francis Frangipane

“Five times in Matthew 24, Jesus warned against deception in the last days (vv. 4, 5, 11, 23–24, 26). If we are not at least somewhat troubled by those warnings, it is only because we are guarding our ignorance with arrogance, presuming that our thoughts must be right simply because we think them. … Subconsciously, we may actually want a dead religion so we do not have to change.”

From: frangipane.org…

Beware: It is Easy to Fake Christianity
(En Español)
Our experience of Christianity must go beyond just being another interpretation of the Bible; it must expand until our faith in Jesus and our love for Him becomes a lightning rod for His presence.
Prove All Things
“But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good” (1 Thess. 5:21). Would you buy a car without driving it? Would you purchase a house sight unseen? Of course not! Yet, many of us accept various “plans of salvation” that do not really save us from the distresses of hell. In spite of the fact that Jesus came to give us abundant life, we remain sinful and selfish. A car may look nice, but if it will not drive across town we should not trust it to take us across the country.
Likewise, if our Christianity does not work in this life where we can test it, it is foolhardy to hope it will successfully transport us into eternity where, if we fail the test, we suffer eternal separation from God.
I do not wish to imply, however, that unless we get every doctrine right and every interpretation perfect we will be refused entrance into heaven. Christianity is more a matter of the heart than the head; it is a maturing of love more than knowledge. The test of truth is not an intellectual pursuit but whether you are drawing closer, week by week, to knowing and loving Jesus Christ.
At the same time, we should not be afraid to test what we believe. Paul says, “Test yourselves . . . examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?” (2 Cor. 13:5).
The power and person of Jesus Christ is in us; to believe in Him is to progressively become like Him. As it is written, “as He is, so also are we in this world” (1 John 4:17). However, if we have been indoctrinated to believe that the kingdom of God, and Christianity itself, does not really have to work, or if the absence of holiness and power fails to trouble us, something is seriously wrong with our concept of truth.
We should seek answers to three very important questions. First: is my faith effective? Do not gloss over that question. Honestly ask yourself if your prayers are being answered and if your life is becoming godly.
Second: if my doctrines do not work, then why not? Perhaps your theology is fine but you are lazy. Perhaps you need to turn off the television set and dedicate that time to seek the Lord instead. Or maybe you are very earnest but you have been taught wrong. Either way, you must seek to find out why things are not working for you.
And third: if I do see the fruit and power of the Holy Spirit revealed in another’s life, how did he (or she) receive such grace from God? Do not be afraid to sit as a disciple under the anointing of another’s ministry. The Word tells us, “He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward” (Matt. 10:41). God gives “rewards” of impartation, knowledge and other spiritual gifts to His servants. Learn from those whose faith is working.
The final test of any set of doctrines is seen in the kind of life they produce. As it is written, “By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked” (1 John 2:5–6). Continual, persistent walking with Christ will produce a life like Christ’s. We will walk even as He did walk with holiness and power.
The fact is, however, that if the “god” of some of our Christian religions died, most members of those churches would be either too spiritually dead or too physically busy to notice his absence. All too often, Christians accept teachings “by faith”—not faith in the Living God but faith that their church doctrines are correct. We unconsciously hope that whoever is teaching us has not made a mistake.
Jesus said, “See to it no one misleads you” (Matt. 24:4). Remaining free from deception is a responsibility each of us must assume as individuals. Without becoming suspicious or mistrusting, in humility let us re-examine what we have been taught. The virtue of any teaching is in its ability to either equip you to do God’s will or empower you to find God’s heart. If either objective is missing, that teaching will be of lesser value.
The Power of a Godly Life
This lesson is not addressed to “bad people” or sinners; it is for all of us “good people” who have thought being nice was of the same essence as knowing the truth. It is not. We can thank our parents that we are nice, but to know the truth, we must seek God and be willing to obey Him.
Five times in Matthew 24, Jesus warned against deception in the last days (vv. 4, 5, 11, 23–24, 26). If we are not at least somewhat troubled by those warnings, it is only because we are guarding our ignorance with arrogance, presuming that our thoughts must be right simply because we think them. There are areas in all of our lives that need to be corrected. And unless we can be corrected, unless we are seeking God for an unfolding revelation of His Son, our so-called “faith” may be, in reality, just a lazy indifference, a deception concerning the things of God. Subconsciously, we may actually want a dead religion so we do not have to change.
Yes, we should accept many things by faith. But faith is not blindly sticking our hand out to be led by another blind man. It is not an excuse to justify impotent doctrines. True faith is freighted with the power of God.
The Power in Holiness
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be . . . having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof” (2 Tim. 3:1–5 KJV). Holiness is powerful. Have you ever met a truly holy man or woman? There is a power in their godliness. If, however, one has never known a Christlike soul, it becomes very easy to fake Christianity. Remember this always: being false is natural to the human heart; it is with much effort that we become true. Unless we are reaching for spiritual maturity, our immaturity shapes our perceptions of God. We point to the Almighty and say, “He stopped requiring godliness,” when in reality, we have compromised the standards of His kingdom. Know for certain that the moment we stop obeying God, we start faking Christianity.
And as we mature, we begin to realize that the Spirit of Christ is actually within us. The cross emerges off the printed page, it stands upright before us, confronting us with our own Gethsemanes, our own Golgothas—but also our own resurrections through which we ascend spiritually into the true presence of the Lord.
With Paul we say,

I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and delivered Himself up for me. —Galatians 2:20

Do not let yourself be misled! Place upon your theology the demand that it work—your eternal salvation depends upon it! If Christ is within us, we should be living holy, powerful lives. No excuses. If we are not holy or if there is not the power of godliness in our lives, let us not blame God. As it is written, “Let God be found true, though every man be found a liar” (Rom. 3:4). Let us persevere in seeking God until we find Him, until we discover “what [we are] still lacking” (Matt. 19:20). Let us press on until we “lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus” (Phil. 3:12).
How long should we continue to seek Him? If we spent all our lives and all our energies for three minutes of genuine Christlikeness, we would have spent our lives well. We will say like Simeon of old, “Now Lord, You are releasing Your bond-servant to depart in peace, according to Your word; for my eyes have seen Your salvation” (Luke 2:29–30). We do not want to just give mental assent to Christian doctrine; we want to see, have contact with and live in the experienced reality of Christ’s actual presence. The moment we settle for anything less, we begin faking Christianity.
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The preceding article came from Pastor Frangipane’s first book, Holiness, Truth and the Presence of God that can be ordered at www.arrowbookstore.com

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[video] Francis Chan left his 1600 member church to reassess. "There's a LACK OF PEACE in so many people … WE PRETEND." "There is this NARROW ROAD … FEW will find it." "Let's go back to what THE TRUTH has always been…and has NEVER BEEN POPULAR."

By Jeff Fenske

On January 15, 2011

In Doctrines Demystified, Francis Chan, Lying, The Church is Getting Jacked!, Who Goes to Heaven

Watch this Entire EXCELLENT Interview HERE

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“I don’t like hearing my name so much. …
I hear the words Francis Chan
more than I hear the words Holy Spirit.”

“…we focus on some of these New Testament teachings without the background
of understanding that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.”

“There’s just this trend in churches awhile back
where we would make fun of those Hellfire and brimstone preachers:
‘Ah, you know, those old-time pastors.’
And you look at the scriptures,
you go: that’s what the scriptures teach.”

“Let’s not be swayed by the culture.
Let’s go back to what the truth has always been from the beginning,
and has never been popular.”

“There’s a lack of peace in so many people. …
There isn’t as much peace as sometimes we pretend there is….
And yet, during those times in our lives when we do put ourselves at risk,
those are the only times we really feel peace. …
And we experience God.”

“Even that phrase lukewarm Christian,
I don’t see that in the scripture.
He refers to these people as lukewarm.
He also refers to them as blind, naked, poor, wretched, pitiable.
And He says, I’m going to spit you out of My mouth
because you’re lukewarm. …
I don’t know how you can read that passage
and call that person a Christian,
because a Christian’s not going to be
spit out of the mouth of God.”

“There is this narrow road that leads to life
and few will find it.”

“We’re all believers, you know, in this room
because we all prayed a prayer at some point in our life.
I just don’t see that in scriptures.”

– Francis Chan

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

Excerpt:[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOetBYPBz6A]Francis Chan on the luke-warm church

premiertv2006 | June 30, 2010 | 11 likes, 0 dislikes

Francis Chan shares his views with Premier.tv’s Justin Brierley. FULL INTERVIEW: www.premier.tv [HERE]

THIRD ANNIVERSARY of "Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way"

By Jeff Fenske

On January 14, 2011

In Personal, Who Goes to Heaven

Today is the THIRD ANNIVERSARY of Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way!
It’s been up for 3 years and…
No one has been able to refute it; even though:

I’m offering $6,000 to anyone who can.

So far it’s hardly taught (but that will change, eh?).

It’s the #1 post on my site.

It’s usually #1 in a “Who goes to heaven” Google search.

It’s a radical departure from “Once Saved, Always Saved.”

It’s radically different from what Luther and Calvin taught…

And I and others who discovered this could have gotten Luther’s Ph.D. cap:

Once Luther remarked that he would give his doctor’s beret
to anyone who could reconcile James and Paul.

It’s the #1 key to the Third Great Awakening/ONE happening!

CHANGES

It’s now reinforced with “Who are the Children of God?”

Romans 8 has been expanded to show what happened to Rom. 8:1b in the NIV

Many links added, such as:

What is HORRIBLY WRONG with Modern Bible Translations like the NIV?
Most modern versions slavishly depend on
the Egyptian and Vatican corruptions of the New Testament!

It’s my baby. I’ve never married, and haven’t even dated for decades, and I don’t have the gift of singleness. This is my baby. I hope you check it out so ONE can happen!
From: my Let Us Be ONE prophecy (my other baby, the “sleeping giant,” 9 years-old now), Part 2 of 33

On the night before Jesus sacrificed his life for us, he prayed that those who would follow would be one. His heart still longs to see this fulfilled in our lives – “that the world may know.”

Not for these only do I pray, but for those also who believe in me through their word, that they may all be ONE; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be ONE in us; that the world may believe that you sent me. The glory which you have given me, I have given to them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE; I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into ONE; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me.
(John 17:20-23)

This year?

ONE can happen this year!

If we build it He will come!

Power to the Peaceful!

That the world may know!

Jeff : )

[videos] Rhydian Roberts: The Impossible Dream (precarious climb and other versions)

By Jeff Fenske

On January 14, 2011

In Forgive & Be FREE, FUN or AMAZING Stuff!, God's Love Revealed, Lust Freedom!, Music Videos, Revival, Who Goes to Heaven

Location: El Camino Del Rey — El Caminito del Rey
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“The Impossible Dream”

(music by Mitch Leigh and lyrics by Joe Darion)

To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go

To right the unrightable wrong
To love pure and chaste from afar
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star

This is my quest
To follow that star
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far

Precarious Climb[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JZnwLVwaE]Rhydian – The Impossible Dream

To fight for the right
Without question or pause
To be willing to march into Hell
For a heavenly cause

And I know if I’ll only be true
To this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I’m laid to my rest

And the world will be better for this
That one man, scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with his last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable star

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Static Photo Version
(if climbing precarious stairs and ledges make you queasy)[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjpXlAvvOSk]Rhydian Roberts – The Impossible Dream (With Lyrics)

amack1n | December 17, 2008 | 136 likes, 3 dislikes

Rhydian Roberts – The Impossible Dream

The headline song from Rhydian Robert’s new album, The Impossible Dream, is from the 1965 musical, Man of La Mancha

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL2pZb0VrTg]IMPOSSIBLE DREAM RHYDIAN AT BUILTH WELLS

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtN3_0hByr4]Rhydian – Impossible Dream

Uploaded by dianaben on Dec 11, 2011

Singing in concert in Bath on 10th Dec 2011

Related:

All of My Rhydian Roberts posts

Category: Who Goes to Heaven Page 14 of 17

Jesus

Francis Chan 05/02/10

Compare above message to what Francis spoke 2.5 years earlier

Francis Chan 11/04/07

13 Common Misconceptions About the New Covenant

Revelation 22:12-15

Revelation 21:5…8

Another war — another opportunity to get our hearts right.

“Love your neighbor as yourself.”

– Jesus

Jesus in Matthew 5

How many more do I need for ONE to happen?

I started researching this subject in 1975

1 Timothy 6

1 Timothy 4

John 3

What about K-Love “positive/encouraging” where everything is okay?

Jeff, aren’t you being legalistic?

Do I always have to wonder?

What does the Bible really say?

This is the place of rest.

“The Impossible Dream”

Francis Chan
05/02/10

Compare above message to
what Francis spoke
2.5 years earlier

Francis Chan
11/04/07

Another war —
another opportunity
to get our hearts right.

“Love your neighbor
as yourself.”

What about K-Love
“positive/encouraging”
where everything is okay?