“There was a time when people went to church, heard the truth, and wept over their sins.
Today, people go to church, hear a motivational speech, and ignore their sins.”
Category: ‘Church’ is the Cause of the Crash Page 2 of 4
“Look at the world today.
There are no political solutions to spiritual problems… ”
– Steve Quayle
(source)
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I understand the bad, the compromise with the world, but I don’t recall Jay claiming to be a born-again Christian, whereas pastors do claim to even follow Christ, the Peacemaker.
I remember how good Jay was to Ron Paul — while the Christians didn’t want anything to do with the peacemaker whom God gave us, so we could have had a Godly President. I think Ron Paul was our last chance.
How is it that a stand-up comedian understands greatness, and the pastors can’t — or won’t?
Jay had Ron on a couple of times, trying to help. Here he is, crying:
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tmQ2ROnq38]Jay Leno Cries In Epilogue – The Tonight Show with Jay Leno Goodbye (Full) – ORIGINAL
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[ audio + video ] Was Jesus Booed In SC? Debate Reaction On The Robert Scott Bell Show 1/17/12
Evangelicals, Militarism, and Romans 13 (Preston Sprinkle)
Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!
‘Just War’ Doctrine Abandoned in America — U.S. Foreign Policy Now Reverse-Christian
Chuck Baldwin: Why Do Evangelicals Ignore Ron Paul? | My Opinion
[2011] Ron Paul’s Statement of Faith
Ron Paul on Evangelical Christians Expected to Be Pro-War All the Time
Ron Paul on what precedes LIBERTY: Life “and I mean all LIFE!”
Ron Paul: “Fascism Comes Wrapped In A Flag, Carrying A Cross”
Ron Paul: Jesus is the Prince of PEACE, Not Preemptive War
Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!
Ron Paul Speaks To The Right To Life Foundation
Sarah Palin: U.S. Troops in Iraq Doing God’s Will — “A Task that is From God”
Can Sarah Palin be a real, going-to-heaven Christian?
What is Anchorage’s new statue sitting there thinking? “Why does Alaska still support Sarah Palin, the OPPOSITE OF RON PAUL on foreign interventionism?” — & — “Why did ‘Christians’ in this town vote for George W. Bush, the OPPOSITE OF JESUS on foreign interventionism, TWICE?”
John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran
Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘A God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace’
Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Will Evangelicals Ever Admit They Were Duped by Bush?
President Bush — “Bad Fruits versus Good Fruits” List
Michael Franti: Bomb the World (”Power to the Peaceful!”)
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
This is an excellent article circulating on Facebook that I can’t find the origin of.
Because so few ‘Christians’ are daily praying in the Spirit, those of us who do have to pray more — and it isn’t enough. In the big picture, Satan’s kingdom is moving stronger than God’s, and America is falling into a trap, history repeating itself, again.
Christianity isn’t that hard, but we must do what the Bible says to be free, which also includes holding as a goal and implementing Ephesians 4:11-16, by the way.
American churches have substituted slick, “seeker friendly” presentations and man-made programs for what God clearly says to do.
We need to be like little children, doing the simple things we’re called to do that make the profound difference.
God has given us these gifts to be used here on Earth, now. In heaven, they won’t be needed (1 Cor. 13).
What are we waiting for?
Too sophisticated?
We need to be like children…
I just posted this on my Facebook page.
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I was thinking today about how most churches have set an ungodly precedent in how they handle whistleblowers — the Snowdens who tried to resurrect the corrupted system.
How can we expect our government to be lovers of the truth if churches aren’t?
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Michelle Bachmann was one of the loudest warmongers in the Presidential Republican debates. Now she’s helping to lead the fight for the unconstitutional police state — not even telling the truth here.
Why aren’t pastors saying even a peep? They’re aiding and abetting the fall of America, just like the pastors who supported the Nazi Germany police state.
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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvPKVzK3m7c]House Votes For NSA Tyranny
Published on Jul 26, 2013
House Narrowly Rejects Proposal To End NSA Surveillance In 205-217 Vote
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07…
Support These 3 Bills … Or Live Like a Slave
http://www.infowars.com/support-these…
Hackers Demonstrate How Easy it is to Carjack a Vehicle Remotely
http://www.infowars.com/hackers-demon…
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First, Chuck Baldwin posted this on his Facebook page this morning:
Several Christian people have excoriated me because I have publicly challenged the political and theological positions of notable Christian ministers such as Franklin Graham and John Hagee. They tell me that because these men are ministers I have no right to challenge them. Excuse me, but that is so much horse manure.
These men are speaking as public figures; they are public leaders. Both of these men (and others) volunteered to enter the public square. They are not just preaching in their churches (Graham doesn’t have a church, obviously), they are speaking to the country. They have political influence. They volunteered to enter the political arena and take definite political positions on various issues.
As a fellow minister and public figure, one who also represents a political view to a national audience, I have a DUTY to challenge what I perceive to be erroneous, unconstitutional, misleading, and unbiblical views. The public can decide for themselves what they believe or don’t believe; but the idea that these men are somehow protected from public challenge because they are ministers is absurd. They cannot proclaim political views to a public audience and then expect that those with opposing views have no right to compete in the marketplace of ideas. It doesn’t work that way.
Franklin Graham was wrong to endorse provisions of the Obama/Feinstein gun grab bill, and John Hagee is wrong to trumpet Middle East war and foreign interventionism, and to teach his duel covenant doctrine, that Jews are going to heaven simply because they are Jews.
In my opinion, America is in the mess it is in because of the misguided public leadership of too many of our nation’s religious leaders. I would be less than honest and honorable if I would not use the public platform that God has given to me to do my best to trumpet truth and expose error as and when I see and understand it. This I will continue to do.
From: chuckbaldwinlive.com…
What Does John Hagee Really Want?
Published: Thursday, June 27, 2013
John Hagee, and many other evangelical preachers, constantly beat the war drums. Without ceasing, they encourage America’s political leaders to wage non-stop wars of aggression–especially in the Middle East. They constantly trumpet America’s unconstitutional interventions in the Middle East with terms not unlike those used by militant Muslims. Hagee’s pro-war fanaticism is so extreme one must wonder how much he is being paid by the Israeli lobby. My guess is it’s a bunch.
Much of this Christian war fever is due to a convoluted interpretation of Scripture–especially prophetic Scripture. While I will leave most of this discussion for another day, let me simply say that whatever God plans to do in regard to the reestablishment of the Davidic Kingdom, it has precious little to do with the atheistic, apostate government currently headquartered in Tel Aviv. And Hagee, himself, teaches apostasy when he declares that Jewish people today have a special covenant with God and do not need to come to faith in Jesus Christ in order to be saved, and when he says that Jesus never even claimed to be Christ (Messiah).
Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father but by me.” (John 14:6 KJV) Now, either Jesus or John Hagee told the truth. I’ll take the word of Jesus. Plus, Mr. Hagee apparently forgot Simon Peter’s confession, which Jesus said was due to a revelation from God the Father, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.” (Matthew 16:16 KJV)
So, what is it that Hagee and the rest really want? Perpetual war? Total genocide? A global New World Order with the likes of G.W. Bush or Barack Obama at the helm? What do they really want? Do they really have such an inflated view of themselves that they truly believe that they are going to manipulate what God does or doesn’t do regarding the fulfillment of end time events? Is God their servant? Is God Israel’s servant? Is God America’s servant? Balderdash! God is no man’s (or country’s) servant.
I wonder what these warmonger-preachers think about all the “blowback” from these illegal and immoral wars of aggression that G.W. Bush (and now Barack Obama) has led us into. Not only are these wars provoking people all over the world against us and doing more to recruit volunteers for militant extremists in the Middle East than anything Al Qaeda could do on their own, they are having catastrophic results on missionary work.
Now think this through: these warmongering evangelicals beat the war drums; they encourage the young men from their churches to go off and fight these “holy” wars; they work tirelessly to elect pro-war politicians; and they twist Old Testament Scripture to fit these modern crusades. Then, the politicians whom the warmongers helped elect send the US military to invade, bomb, and kill hundreds of thousands of people, the vast majority of whom are innocent people. After which, these same warmonger-preachers get up in their pulpits and cry and weep about how we need to send missionaries to preach the Gospel to the same people they just got done trying to annihilate.
Exactly who is it that the missionaries are supposed to reach? The ones lucky enough to escape death and destruction from US bombers and drone attacks, I guess. And exactly what is the message our missionaries are supposed to deliver? “I’m from America, and I’m here to tell you about the love of God.” Oh, that is going to play really well with the loved ones of those family members we just destroyed.
I’ve had so many missionaries tell me how difficult it is for them to try to minister to people around the world today; and the chief reason is the bully reputation that America has built over the past several decades.
Furthermore, do these warmongering evangelicals really want to deal with the fact that we now have over 23 veterans and active-duty military personnel committing suicide EVERY DAY? That equates to more fighting men dying from self-inflicted wounds than from wounds received in the wars they are asked to fight. This is a first in US history. Is John Hagee interested in why so many of our fighting men are killing themselves?
Just recently, an Iraq War veteran killed himself and left a sad and compelling suicide-letter explaining why he ended his life. The letter was posted with the family’s permission. This young soldier was engaged in over 400 combat missions as a machine-gunner in the turret of a Humvee. He was also involved in the interrogation of countless Iraqis. In the letter, the soldier said, “The simple truth is this: During my first deployment, I was made to participate in things, the enormity of which is hard to describe. War crimes, crimes against humanity. Though I did not participate willingly, and made what I thought was my best effort to stop these events, there are some things that a person simply can not come back from. I take some pride in that, actually, as to move on in life after being part of such a thing would be the mark of a sociopath in my mind. These things go far beyond what most are even aware of.
“To force me to do these things and then participate in the ensuing coverup is more than any government has the right to demand. Then, the same government has turned around and abandoned me. They offer no help, and actively block the pursuit of gaining outside help via their corrupt agents at the DEA. Any blame rests with them.”
The distraught soldier went on to say, “Is it any wonder then that the latest figures show 22 veterans killing themselves each day? That is more veterans than children killed at Sandy Hook, every single day. Where are the huge policy initiatives? Why isn’t the president standing with those families at the state of the union? Perhaps because we were not killed by a single lunatic, but rather by his own system of dehumanization, neglect, and indifference.
“It leaves us to where all we have to look forward to is constant pain, misery, poverty, and dishonor. I assure you that, when the numbers do finally drop, it will merely be because those who were pushed the farthest are all already dead.
“And for what? Bush’s religious lunacy? Cheney’s ever growing fortune and that of his corporate friends? Is this what we destroy lives for?”
See the report and the soldier’s complete suicide-letter at:
Iraq Vet Kills Himself After Being Ordereed To Commit War Crimes
What was the soldier’s lament? He was forced to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity. He was forced by the government to cover up these crimes. His government abandoned him in his hour of need. His pain and guilt was more than he could bear. The soldier’s own words were that his was “Not suicide, but a mercy killing.”
Mr. Hagee and the rest of you warmongering evangelicals out there, is this soldier’s suicide (and the suicides of over 23 active-duty and military veterans every day) what you had in mind when you beat the drums for America’s undeclared, unconstitutional wars of aggression? This young soldier saw the reality of these wars up close and personal–and he didn’t like what he saw. And don’t try to brush this off by saying it’s always been this way. No it hasn’t! We didn’t have suicides like this during World War I or World War II. Whatever the politics back then was or wasn’t, those were lawfully declared wars in which our men knew what they were fighting for. They went in; they fought; they came home.
The war we are fighting in the Middle East is now America’s longest war, and there is no end in sight. Bush and Obama have made perpetual war an official US policy. In addition, this “War on Terror” has transformed the American people from citizens into suspects–every last one of us. Military drones by the tens of thousands are, or soon will be, flying over the skies of America. The American citizenry is being spied on relentlessly. Two super spy centers are currently being built: one in southern Utah and one near San Antonio, Texas. These super spy centers are designed primarily to spy on the American people. Liberties once protected by the Constitution and Bill of Rights are now publicly and blatantly abused. And evangelicals such as John Hagee say nary a word of protest. Instead, they continue to support and promote this so-called “War on Terror.” At what cost, Mr. Hagee? At what cost?
Hundreds of thousands of innocents are being killed; animosity against the United States is growing exponentially; in an effort to keep our country at war, our economy is being overburdened and overtaxed to the point of no return; in the name of the “War on Terror,” America is on the verge of becoming a giant police state; we are inciting China and Russia into nuclear war; and America’s military veterans are killing themselves more frequently than are enemy bullets. Is this what you want, Mr. Hagee? Is this really what you want?
(c) Chuck Baldwin
Related:
Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!
‘Just War’ Doctrine Abandoned in America — U.S. Foreign Policy Now Reverse-Christian
Chuck Baldwin: Why Do Evangelicals Ignore Ron Paul? | My Opinion
[2011] Ron Paul’s Statement of Faith
Ron Paul on Evangelical Christians Expected to Be Pro-War All the Time
Ron Paul on what precedes LIBERTY: Life “and I mean all LIFE!”
Ron Paul: “Fascism Comes Wrapped In A Flag, Carrying A Cross”
Ron Paul: Jesus is the Prince of PEACE, Not Preemptive War
Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!
Ron Paul Speaks To The Right To Life Foundation
Sarah Palin: U.S. Troops in Iraq Doing God’s Will — “A Task that is From God”
Can Sarah Palin be a real, going-to-heaven Christian?
What is Anchorage’s new statue sitting there thinking? “Why does Alaska still support Sarah Palin, the OPPOSITE OF RON PAUL on foreign interventionism?” — & — “Why did ‘Christians’ in this town vote for George W. Bush, the OPPOSITE OF JESUS on foreign interventionism, TWICE?”
John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran
Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘A God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace’
Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Will Evangelicals Ever Admit They Were Duped by Bush?
President Bush — “Bad Fruits versus Good Fruits” List
Michael Franti: Bomb the World (”Power to the Peaceful!”)
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Ralph doesn’t get to talk much, but still a good show.
Ralph Epperson is author of “The Unseen Hand” and other books and videos, and he’s one of my Facebook friends!
My Facebook page: facebook.com/ONEcanhappen
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“We live in a world of deceit and deception.”
~“The only thing that can save us is a spiritual revival.
– Dr. Stanley Monteith
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Minute-37:30 Ralph Epperson:
“That Book is not only about salvation. It’s about good and evil. Why? Because in the Garden of Eden, Satan offered Adam and Eve the right to decide for themselves what was right and wrong — when God told them, ‘don’t do that. Thou shalt not eat from the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,’ which means: you’re not supposed to decide what’s right and wrong. You’re supposed to listen to Me. Because when you decide, you’re going to make everything that’s wrong right.
Minute-45 Dr. Stan and then Ralph:
“I believe we should fear God. And if we don’t fear God and fear what’s going on we’re not going to keep His commandments. Why should we? What are your thoughts on that, Ralph.”
“I agree with you, Dr. Stan. Our church is no longer a flame with righteous indignation. And that’s the problem. We’re not being taught about sin and evil. I keep wondering, when are they going to start talking about being honest in your business dealing? Every time we turn around there’s more scandal…. What happened to basic morality?”
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From: Chuck Baldwin’s Facebook post
Some questions for so many of my pastor and Christian brethren:
Why is it so hard for them to believe that there is a dark side to the US government? Why is it so hard for them to believe in government conspiracies? Why can they not recognize the New World Order that is being constructed before their very eyes? Why do they not see the burgeoning police state that is taking place before their very eyes? Why do they place so much trust and confidence in the Republican Party? Why are they so hesitant to take a stand for the Second Amendment? How can they be such enthusiastic cheerleaders for perpetual war? How could they be so blind to constitutional government? How dare they accept “faith-based” taxpayer monies from the federal government? Why do they believe that God would not allow them to go through tribulation when so many of their fellow Christians around the world are already in tribulation? How can they be so ignorant of the Biblical principles of liberty and Natural Law? If the Holy Spirit guides us into “all truth,” why are they not able to see so much truth about what is going on in our country? Why do they love Rick Warren and loathe Ron Paul? How could they support Mitt Romney and reject Ron Paul? Why do they not know who Pastor Jonas Clark was? Why do they give police a pass when they ignore and trample the Fourth Amendment? How can they not know how sinister the CFR and Federal Reserve are? How can they say that “soulwinning” trumps anything and everything else and then do so little of it? How can they use the Rapture in the by and by as an excuse to sit back and do nothing to resist the rising tyranny that is happening in the now and now?
Just a few questions.
Testimony of victims sexually abused by priests,
and how the Catholic ‘Church’ covered it up:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcBtDRBzfkM]Pope’s Resignation Stuns Catholic World
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From: Henry Makow
God is a 9-11 Truther
August 18, 20
GOD SUPPORTS 9/11 TRUTH
(so where is the Christian Church?)
by Michael Cangemi
(henrymakow.com)
1. God is a God of TRUTH.: God’s character is revealed in Scripture as one of righteousness, love, justice, mercy, and TRUTH. (Je.9:24; Ps.31:5). His Word is TRUTH:(Jn.17:17), All His works are done in TRUTH, (Ps 33:4). It is impossible for God to lie, (He.6:18).The prophet Isaiah prayed, “…Thy counsels of old are faithfulness and TRUTH…;”(Is.25:1) David prayed, “…lead me into Thy TRUTH and teach me..,” (Ps. 25:10) Jesus referred to God’s Spirit as the “Spirit of TRUTH,” (Jn.16:13). TRUTH is inseparable from the nature and character of the living God.
2. Satan: God and Mankind’s Diabolical Adversary is revealed as opposite of God. Jesus witnessed his expulsion from heaven. Jesus referred to Satan as “a thief, who came to steal, kill and destroy,” (Jn. 10:10) Satan is called the god of this world, who blinds men. (2 Co.4:4). Jesus upbraided the Pharisees for their unjustified attacks upon himself as being inspired by Satan, ” You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a MURDERER from the beginning, and abode not in the truth. When he speaketh a LIE, he speaks of his own: for he is a LIAR and the father of it.” (Jn.8:44).
3.The Christian church, as God’s means of sharing the Gospel, His love, character, and will on earth, should be a citadel of TRUTH on all matters. This includes confronting governmental corruption, lies and murders that affect an entire nation and the world. John the Baptist stood up to King Herod and told him, “its not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife.”(Mark 6:18)
4. Truth vs 9/11 Deception: In words taken from the website of Military Officers for 911 Truth, “the official account is fraught with errors,” “inaccurate and fatally flawed.” “hogwash,” “raises rational suspicion of intentional deception by agents of the US Government.”
Most Americans are familiar with the official US government account of the 9/11 attacks, so that will not be repeated here, except to say that several hours of investigation will begin to drill holes in that story. The more time, the more holes and the official “investigation” becomes a glaring LIE, i.e., an intentional deception to cover-up the real “who and why of the attacks” that killed nearly 3000, and provided justification for subsequent wars, where hundreds of thousands more have died, US and foreign soldiers and civilians.
Constitution-gutting laws passed at home. Remember who Jesus called “the father of LIES.” Terror attacks wherein the perpetrators point blame on others for the advancement of a specific agenda or create disfavor in the public for their geo-political enemies are more common that most realize. One example is “Operation Northwoods” which JFK would not allow. The DOD planned domestic terrorist attacks on US soil that were to be blamed on Cuba, to garner American anti-Castro emotional opinion. Such operations are known as “false flags.” Overwhelming evidence says that 9/11 was a “false flag” a “black operation”. In the words of one USAF veteran, who spent four years researching the attacks:
” I am 100% convinced that the attacks of 9/11 were planned, organized and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government..” –
Lt Col. Guy Razer, MS
5. God Requires Truth of Men: God requires TRUTH of men—all men. Government spooks, foreign and domestic, and men who hide behind Talmudic and Luciferian philosophies are not exempt. Purveyors of secret Machiavellian policies and those who hide in places of power are not exempt. King David, after his great sin of murder and adultery cried out to God, “You desire TRUTH in the inward parts…”. David did it secretly but God knew. “The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.” (Pr.15:3 ) God did not absolve David till he was confronted by the prophet, confessed and repented. His moving and contrite confession recorded in Psalm 51.
6. Christian Church: Truth Side or Lie Side? Although there is a Christians For 911 Truth website, many high profile Christian leaders and very large churches are well behind the power curve on understanding the facts that contradict the official account. Many still echo the official “LIE”, yes, that’s right the official LIE. With no interest, or placid acceptance of the US governments account of the attacks, churches and Christian leaders, by default, align themselves and their people with the LIE. Some honestly don’t know, but when offered data, won’t look, either out of fear, which should have no place in the believer, or apathy. Or perhaps a mistaken, “that is not what Christians should do.” Nearly 3000 of their fellow countrymen were murdered. 19 Arabs were blamed. The evidence does not support that. God condemns and reserves judgement for those “that loveth and maketh a LIE” ( Re. 22:15, Re.21:8). Shedding of innocent blood is heinous to God, as much as condemning the innocent and justifying the wicked:
“He that justifies the wicked, and he that condemns the just, even they both are an abomination to the Lord.” (Pr.17:15)
“Because with LIES you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad
and strengthened the hands of the wicked…” (Ez.13:22)
7. Conclusion: Eleven years have past since the 9/11 attacks. The real conspirators successfully deceived a nation, and those in position of government power, and media continue to ignore or cover-up or attack the TRUTH.
A plethora of “security” agencies, acts and laws such as Department of Homeland Security, NDAA, the TSA and many others effectively gut the Bill of Rights, treating all Americans as suspect. There is overwhelming evidence, the US Government’s official account is a LIE, designed to DECEIVE. Historian Alfred Lilienthal, who embraced Jesus Christ chastised Christian leaders on being deceived about Zionism, saying, “They above all people should be able to discern the truth…” It is past time for Christian leaders and pastors and churches get on the side of TRUTH regarding the 9/11 attacks because God is there. God is on the side of the TRUTH, and deception was the intent of the US 9/11 Commission Report.
“Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth will set you free” –Jesus Christ
” All Truth sets free, while lies bind up” -Jesse Penn-Lewis, 1921, “War on the Saints”
Related:
POWERFUL 9/11 Documentary Airs on PBS Across Colorado!!!!!!!
Psychologists Explain 911 Denial — Fear, Pride…. “We need the truth in order to heal.”
Nick Rockefeller Predicted “Event” To Trigger War Eleven Months Before 9/11
Molten Steel Found at Ground Zero Weeks After 9/11
9/11 Masterminds – Explosive Connections
Swedish Structural Engineer: WTC Towers Did Not Collapse from Fire
All of my 9/11 truth posts in reverse chronological order (latest posts appear first, 10 posts per page)
World Affairs Brief, August 31, 2012 Commentary and Insights on a Troubled World. Copyright Joel Skousen. Partial quotations with attribution permitted. Cite source as Joel Skousen’s World Affairs Brief (http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com)
THIS WEEK’S ANALYSIS:
GOP Convention: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Where does the Ron Paul Movement go from Here?
Collapse of Morgan Stanley Imminent?
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WHERE DOES THE RON PAUL MOVEMENT GO FROM HERE?
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Is there a path to winning back America as a nation? No, I think we’ve past the point of no return. I’ve been in this battle all my adult life, and here are my conclusions that preclude winning back the entire nation:
1) The people are no longer worthy of liberty. Americans as a whole are soft, materialistic and too content with life to fight, let alone recognize the loss of liberty. As long as they are allowed to go to church and buy what they want, they think they are free. But the noose is tightening. The youth are even softer, so the trend is in the wrong direction. Americans may still consider themselves a religious people, but religion, for the most part, doesn’t change their little bad habits, so at some point their religion is not leading to righteousness. They stop listening to the refining voice of conscience. Religious people don’t even honor the Sabbath anymore. To the Lord, listening to the personal promptings of conscience is where the real test of religiosity lies and most Christians are chronic violators of conscience in the “little things” relative to weight control, nutrition, recreation choices, use of time and failure to discipline children. Trouble is, this callous disregard for the “still small voice” leads to bigger problems and worse decisions. That is why immorality and divorce are high even among church goers. There are notable exceptions, but in general America is getting more unworthy of being saved by God.
2) Americans are lazy about finding truth. Conservatives constantly claim that reforming the education system will turn things around, that American children are starved for good information. But there are two problems here:
A. The education monopoly by government precludes that kind of change. Ever get elected to a school board? If you do you’ll find that state laws prohibit you pointing the curriculum in any other way but that which “credentialed educators” insist you must go, and the establishment controls the credentials. Only complete privatization of education will give parents the freedom to choose—but the establishment isn’t going to let that happen and there are way too many conservatives who would hate to have to pay user fees for those expensive public schools should other non-users be rightfully exempt.
B. I went to public schools and could tell I wasn’t being told the truth about many things. I sensed that something was wrong and went elsewhere to find truth. Today, more than ever with the vast information on the web, the truth is out there (except for most of the deepest and darkest secrets of conspiracy), and if people don’t find it, something is wrong with them relative to the workings of conscience and self control. That’s my point. Far too many people have become immune to the faint warning signals that something is wrong, or if they do hear it, they are too busy searching for material welfare to care. That’s the main reason why this downward track isn’t solvable by external education
3) Good people who are aware are too few to win peacefully: Ever since I worked in Washington and had access to conservative polling data, I’ve realized we don’t have the numbers to win by majority rule. The benefit-corrupted who are on some form of government payment exceed 50% of US inhabitants. Not all of them vote Democratic, but there is a tendency to resist cuts that affects them.
Here are my estimates: Almost all people who are aware of the constitutional crisis have gravitated to the Ron Paul position. His supporters represent, at the most, about 20% of Republicans, but Republicans only represent about 40% of the nation. That means constitutional conservatives and libertarians only represent 8% of the nation.
That 8% is a pretty realistic number, but even if it’s 10% people are tempted to think that since we doubled our numbers in the past 4 years, we can do it again. Not so. Already, there is a distinct resistance when you push past the 10% mark. People aren’t interested. Romney Republicans are resistant to anything that isn’t mainstream.
On the upbeat side, I think that we could possibly get 30% of Republicans to come around if we had another Ron Paul. Rand Paul could certainly achieve those kinds of numbers, but that’s because he would soften his father’s positions. But even with those numbers Rand still wouldn’t win. The establishment won’t allow real change. They won’t allow anyone to get elected unless the make the kind of deep concessions Mitt Romney has, and even then they don’t like it.
4) The US can never pay off the debt or quit deficit spending: Deficit spending got us into this mess, and politicians can’t stop. They love deficit spending and so does the public because it shields them from the pain for paying for wars, foreign aid, education loans, bailouts, tax increases, welfare, and subsidies. Everything is painless until you’re bankrupt and we’re still at least a decade away from that. Rest assured, they’ll give us another world war before that comes due. That’s been their plan all along.
5) The Globalist Conspiracy is too strong to overthrow: They don’t have to have absolute control of everything—effective control is enough. They use a lot of “incentives” to control a vast network of hirelings (willing yes-men) around them who may not fully understand the nature of a conspiracy of power—but they will do their bidding, either out of ignorance, blind pro-government sentiments, promises of advancement, money, or threats. And, don’t forget about immunity—that promise that is ever present when they enter dark side activities, after first having proven that they have sufficient sins to be blackmailed.
How would a Ron Paul survive even if elected? The Secret Service was integral to the killing of Pres. Kennedy. The FBI and CIA both covered up and hired the mafia/CIA hitmen that did the job. There is a dark side of the other federal agencies as well—the DEA, INS, DHS, IRS and even the military. How could an honest president even begin to penetrate, let alone clean out those nests of criminals when they control all the surveillance machinery. How would you gather evidence on them if those on the inside denied it to you? You can’t even think about mounting a good old “Revolutionary War” in today’s age of Big Brother and his All-Seeing Eye.
As for legislative or judicial protection (the so-called separation of powers), I estimate that the government has culpable files on about 75-80% of members of Congress, almost all Police Chiefs in major cities, and most higher judges in the nation, all the way to the Supreme Court. They look for dirt on anyone who starts to rise in the political arena and use those files to control them. Ever wonder why judges almost always back government power, or even abusive police in the face of citizen complaints?
6) States have become corrupt too: It is only partially true that state and local governments are easier to reform than the federal government. All state governments have corruption problems and some states like California, Illinois and New York have corruption machines that rival the mafia. Most large cities are also totally corrupt inside. That said, some states are clearly less corrupt than others, but there is an establishment good ‘old boy network, closely allied with the liberal press in every major city that works together to make sure than no Ron Paul or free market revolutionary gains control. When they do by political fluke (think Evan Mecham, governor of Arizona—a Cleon Skousen trained constitutionalist), the media lies in wait until they make a verbal gaffe and then they run him out of town with a recall election. Scott Walker beat them in Wisconsin, but that was an exception, and he wasn’t really threatening to clean the whole house. Don’t expect that exception to become the rule.
What about the God is in Control argument? Optimistic Christian conservatives always throw out the argument that “God is in Control” and so we don’t have to worry. He has the power to change things. As a believer, I agree. He does have the power. But the real question is will He intervene to save us? And, is America worthy of being saved by God? I don’t think so anymore. That doesn’t mean all is lost for everyone, but it does point to us heading for a great period of tribulation and the loss of liberty at the national level as it morphs into the NWO.
I’m a religious person, and keep my eyes open constantly searching for signs that God is intervening as he did in the nation’s founding—allowing a set of leaders to rise to positions of influence where they can turn the tide, or even allowing major financing to come to principled people so they can bypass the establishment media, or schools, and fund a national movement to renew America. Nothing has happened. The big money only goes to ineffective or mainstream causes. We do have ample numbers of great thinkers with ideals and principles as profound as America’s founders, but none have been allowed to rise in power. Ron Paul got the closest.
Those ministers who have achieved great wealth and fame in televangelism have done so by singing the easy gospel that people want to hear. Those that have been granted access to the White House prayer breakfast meetings during the Bush administration were those who refused to speak up or criticize the big government or war agenda. All the real champions of freedom have been left on the sidelines. Ron Paul is the only one to even get close to a run at the presidency and he has been shut down—but not without building the movement. I’ve seen God’s hand helping to gather the remnant, but no indications of any real optimism toward beating the mammoth evil that is growing even faster than the Liberty movement.
Mitt Romney, though religious, is not the political savior Christians are looking for. He may think God has helped him along the way, but the only way he has gotten this far is by surrounding himself by minions of the devil’s neocon camp. I guarantee you that Mitt Romney, if elected, will be a great disappointment to conservatives. All the good things he proposes will go down in defeat. He will not be allowed to put forth any real constitutionalists for the Supreme Court. They will be blocked in the Senate, and like Reagan, he will finally give in and nominate those the establishment agrees to. He will not overturn abortion. Obamacare will not be shut down.
Remember, to have faith in the salvation of the nation as a whole, the people have to be worthy and I think it has to be more than a mere 10%. God might have spared one corrupt city in Old Testament times if Abraham could find but 10 righteous men, but even had he found 10, sparing a city is a far cry from restoring a nation to full blown liberty. That can’t be done without the full reform of a majority of the people. Considering the overwhelming moral evil in our nation that burdens the Lord’s sense of justice, I think He is bound to let the sword of justice fall. You can’t just manufacture specific faith in a proposed event by hope only or wishful thinking. For specific faith in a hoped for event to be valid, you have to have the spiritual confirmation that it is the Lord’s will, and that must come from God and not rosy-eyed optimism. While the Lord might certainly want the nation to be saved, God himself cannot arbitrarily disregard the decree of justice upon which the universe operates. Only upon terms of repentance and change of heart can condemnation be averted, and I don’t see that happening. I’m keeping an open heart and mind that it might, but the signs aren’t good.
Conclusion: All is not lost even if we don’t have the numbers to win politically. We can still fight for liberty to gain a minority foothold within the nation–a resistance movement, if you will, even if we can’t win back the whole. But when you are dealing with a minority of good people, to exercise any power at all, you have to congregate together so that you have a majority in a region or local area. Our greatest problem in a losing battle of attrition is that we are spread out uniformly across the nation—dispersed in a sea of humanity where none of us constitute a majority.
All efforts to get people to relocate to a Free State (FreeStateProject.org) have been relatively unsuccessful. Their chosen state, New Hampshire, isn’t the best place and it isn’t welcoming the “takeover” that is viewed as a threat to the establishment of that state. There is also the a constant fear among adherents that “times are too difficult economically” for people to pick up and start over in a new location. And that is probably true for most. But it won’t be any easier when we are forced to flee to safer places due to war and economic collapse (which won’t come until war, in my opinion).
If there is any hope for liberty it will be because pockets of liberty and resistance form during the next war when government itself is busy saving itself and not targeting freedom-loving dissidents–yet. I think you’ll see the time, when crisis comes that the social unrest will drive people out of their current places and the Lord will inspire those who can listen to go to places of refuge where other like-minded people are also gathering. Some will be inspired to go to safe places before the crisis, and if you are one of those, heed the promptings. We still have perhaps a decade before the worst comes upon us, so despite all the rumors of collapse, you still have time to make an informed move.
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Rhydian Roberts: The Prayer — “Let this be our prayer WHEN WE LOSE OUR WAY. Lead us…guide us with your grace to A PLACE WHERE WE’LL BE SAFE” (Rhydian Roberts is Welsh, by the way)
I just got a dream about US torturing. While sleeping, I heard very clearly these words:
“Why torture me? Why does the criminal government of America torture me?”
Then, for about an hour, I got all kinds of prayers for those involved, especially those who insist we vote for Presidential candidates who will continue the torture that was escalated during the Bush/Cheney regime. And I prayed for those who insist people don’t vote for Ron Paul, the “Jesus’ Golden Rule” candidate.
And then I heard, awake this time: “The first thing to repent of is First Love.”
Which I assume involves the Greatest Commandment, not loving the Lord, our God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength — so then we don’t do the Second Greatest Commandment either: love our neighbors as ourselves. To many are following the crowd instead of the HOLY Spirit.
Then I heard: “Give to me your pride.”
“Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall” (Proverbs 16:18). Regardless of what our country is doing, please, let’s be holy and not participate in this madness that is destroying our country as we illegally and immorally hurt others.
In the first statement I heard, tonight, God actually calls our government a “criminal government.” I thought of how both Bush and Cheney won’t fly to certain countries now, afraid of being arrested for war crimes against humanity, but evangelicals are still voting for the same type of leaders.
Let’s be holy – Jeff
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Ron Paul: Jesus is the Prince of PEACE, Not Preemptive War
Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Why Do Evangelicals Ignore Ron Paul? | My Opinion
Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!
The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit? The believers, not the non-believers, have opened the gate to sin, which is why this country has deteriorated
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The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
In our polling location, Ron Paul got a close second, but ended up a distant third in the overall. I thought that was strange, but not impossible:
Romney: 316
Paul: 291
Santorum: 184
Gingrich 141
Overall results:
Romney: 32.4%
Santorum: 29.2%
Paul: 24%
Gingrich:14.1%
Paul was targeted with voter fraud and manipulation in many states, some of which has been proven, but the main reason Ron isn’t winning is because most evangelical ‘Christians’ will only vote for warmongers, which is so reverse-Christian — especially since we’ve been lied to about the real reasons for previous wars of this century; even the CIA doesn’t know for sure if Iran even has a nuclear bomb program at all; and it seems these same people are very reluctant to look at the solid 9/11 evidence that proves that those planes could not have taken down the twin towers (which I prove here at ToBeFree).
9/11 was the New Pearl Harbor needed so the people would back the globalists’ wars and accept the police state. Those who supported both Bush wars and the torture, and don’t want to admit they could be wrong — even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and Afghanistan had little to do with it also.
Very sad. Now we’re all going to suffer, big-time! Just watch.
The evangelicals rejected the only peacemaker running.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.” – Jesus
It’s baffling to me how ‘Christians’ would be the main warmongers, along with the country western people. For almost every ‘Christian knows this verse:
“If my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
And:
“Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord.”
War is supposed to be the last resort, not the first. I don’t hear much of a call for repentance or following the Holy Spirit.
We are living in a reverse-Christian society in which the ‘Christians,’ who are supposed to be salt and light, are poisoning this land — turning many people in many nations away from Christ, the Prince of Peace.
“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” – Gandhi
America is going down. Our only hope now is revival, real Christianity, ‘ONE’ (John 17) happening, so we can be filled with the Spirit and the grace we’ll need to navigate the difficult times ahead.
We’ve waited way too long…
Very frustrating. I’ve tried so hard.
jeff fenske : (
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From: Alaska Dispatch
How did Ron Paul lose Alaska?
Eric Christopher Adams | Mar 07, 2012
Paul’s ardent supporters here in the 49th state were on Wednesday casting a wide net, including allegations of polling impropriety, disenfranchisement and other shenanigans by Alaska Republican Party officials.
As the only Republican presidential candidate to make the lonely journey to Alaska this election cycle, and with a groundswell of support from the state’s libertarian-leaning independents, many national pundits and local political watchers had expected a Ron Paul win here on Super Tuesday.
It did not come to pass. Paul ended up placing third in Alaska’s presidential preference poll. Mitt Romney won Alaska by the skin of his nose, taking 32.4 percent of the vote, according to The Associated Press. Rick Santorum, in what seemed surprising, came in a strong second here, taking 29.2 percent. Paul received 3,175 votes, or 24 percent of the turnout. That should net Paul about six delegates to the GOP National Convention in August.
It all amounted to some serious, post-Super Tuesday head scratching for the Paul 2012 campaign after their man had lost three states he’d been predicted to win, including Alaska, Idaho and North Dakota.
From: ChuckBaldwinLive.com…
Posted on Sep 15, 2011
Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers?
[By Pastor Chuck Baldwin]
I’ve been an evangelical Christian since I was a child. I’ve been in the Gospel ministry all of my adult life. I attended two evangelical Christian colleges, received honorary degrees from two others, and taught and preached in several others. I’ve attended many of the largest evangelical pastors’ gatherings and have been privileged to speak at Christian gatherings–large and small–all over America. I have been part of the inner workings of evangelical ministry for nearly 40 years. I think I learned a thing or two about evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity in America. And I’m here to tell you: I don’t like what I see happening these days!
Let’s get this straight right out of the gate: nothing touched by man can be perfect, because none of us is perfect. There is no perfect church, perfect school, perfect mission board, perfect Sunday School class, perfect pastor, perfect deacon, or perfect Christian. Until the afterlife, we are all yet encased in Adamic flesh, complete with human weaknesses and imperfections. And only the Pharisaical among us are too proud to admit it.
That said, I do think it is more than fair to say that, historically, Christians have always attempted to be–and have always publicly taught the importance of being–peacemakers. Historically, Christians have preached–and tried to practice–love and brotherhood. The early church was born in a baptism of love and unity. Oh sure, there were always individual misunderstandings and differences, but, on the whole, the church was a loving, caring, compassionate ecclesia.
Mind you, Christians historically were not afraid or ashamed to defend themselves, their families, and their country. The Lord Jesus, Himself (the Prince of Peace), allowed His disciples to carry personal defense weapons (see Luke 22:36,38). Yes, while some Christian sects were conscientious pacifists, these were the exception, not the rule. The vast majority of Christian believers understood the Biblical, Natural Law principle of self-defense. But believing in the right of lawful, God-ordained self-defense was never to be confused with warmongering.
So, what has happened to turn the most peace-loving institution the world has ever known (the New Testament church) into the biggest cheerleaders for war? I’m talking about un-provoked, illegal, unconstitutional, unbiblical–even secret–wars of aggression. The biggest cheerleaders for the unprovoked, unconstitutional, pre-emptive attack and invasion of Iraq were evangelical Christians. Ditto for the war in Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, the attacks in Yemen, etc. Who is calling for the bombing of Iran? Evangelical Christians. Who cheers for sending more and more troops all over the world to maim and kill more and more people (including innocents)? Evangelical Christians. Shoot (pun intended)! Most evangelical Christians didn’t even bat an eye when the federal government sent military and police personnel to murder American citizens, including old men, women, and children–Christian old men, women, and children, no less–outside Waco, Texas.
And where are today’s evangelical Christians giving a second thought regarding their fellow Christian brothers and sisters in many of these Middle Eastern countries that are being persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, and killed by the puppet regimes being put in power by the US government–at US taxpayer (including Christian taxpayer) expense? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but more Christians have been persecuted under the US-imposed regime in Iraq than were ever persecuted when Saddam Hussein was in power. Oh! And don’t forget that it was the US government that was responsible for putting Saddam Hussein in power to begin with. The US government set up Osama bin Laden, too. But I digress.
In addition to the “white” wars (the ones everyone knows about), the US government authorizes some 70 black ops commando raids in some 120 countries EVERY DAY. In fact, the secret, black ops military of the US is so large today it now totals more personnel than the ENTIRE MILITARY OF CANADA!
A recent report noted, “In 120 countries across the globe, troops from Special Operations Command carry out their secret war of high-profile assassinations, low-level targeted killings, capture/kidnap operations, kick-down-the-door night raids, joint operations with foreign forces, and training missions with indigenous partners as part of a shadowy conflict unknown to most Americans. Once ‘special’ for being small, lean, outsider outfits, today they are special for their power, access, influence, and aura.”
To see the complete report of America’s secret wars, go to:
Yet, how much of this knowledge would even faze the average evangelical Christian today? All we hear from today’s “churches” is “bomb,” “attack,” “wipe them out,” etc. Then, at the same time, they get all emotional about sending missionaries to the same countries that they had just cheered-on the US military in raining down missiles of death and destruction upon (to bring salvation to the lucky ones that weren’t killed, I suppose).
And who are the ones that belittle and impugn Ron Paul? Evangelical Christians. Why? Because he tells the truth about America’s foreign policy being responsible for much of the hatred and bitterness erupting in foreign countries against us. I guarantee you that many of the “conservative” Republicans who booed Dr. Paul’s comments to this regard at the GOP Presidential debate this week would identify themselves as evangelical Christians.
See the report at:
And here is my post on this very same point:
The disciples of our Lord were called “Christians” first by the Gentiles of Antioch, because of the manner in which the disciples reminded them of Christ’s nature and teachings. I never thought I would hear myself say what I’m about to say, but the truth is, the term “Christian” today means anything but Christ-like. To many people today, “Christian” refers to some warmongering, mean-spirited, throw-anyone-to-the-wolves-who-crosses-them person, who then has the audacity to look down their nose in contempt against anyone who disagrees with them for even the smallest reason. And the word “church” has the stigma of being simply an enclave of warmongers to many people today. And that, my friends, is one reason so many people are so turned off with today’s Christianity. And I can’t say that I blame them. I’m turned off too!
Am I a pacifist? Absolutely not! Do I believe an individual, a family, a community, or a nation has the right to protect and defend itself? I absolutely do! And the fellow who breaks into my home or who attacks my loved ones will personally discover I believe that! But this blind support for illegal, immoral, unconstitutional war is anything but Christian. Not only is it turning people against our country among people abroad, it is turning our own countrymen against the Christ we Christians claim to love right here at home.
I dare say that the modern Warfare State would grind to a screeching halt tomorrow if evangelical Christians would simply stop supporting it! And the thing that most evangelical Christians fail to realize is that the Warfare State is one of the primary tools that the evil one is using to usher in his devilish New World Order that even babes in Christ know to be of Satan. Hence, Christians are helping to promote the very thing that Satan, himself, is using to enslave them.
Yes, I’ve been an evangelical Christian for most of my life and an evangelical pastor for all of my adult life. And if we Christians do not quickly repent of this bloodlust that seems to dominate evangelical Christianity today (spiritually and militarily), the word that was first used by un-churched Gentiles to describe Christ’s followers will be used as a curse-word to describe those who facilitated the ruination of our country.
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From: tobefree.press
MY COMMENT
If the peacemakers are blessed
(Blessed are the peacemakers – Jesus),
and most of today’s ‘Christians’ aren’t peacemakers:
both the ‘Christians’ and America can’t be blessed …
and have only themselves to blame when America goes down.
This is fundamental!
– Jeff Fenske
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LEW ROCKWELL
Can Ron Paul win?:
The religious right are not going to agree with Jesus Christ
on ‘Blessed are the peacemakers.’
But can the religious right put their desire for blood below
their desire to have some kind of standard of living
for themselves and their families?
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Texas decided not to have a straw pole so Ron Paul won’t embarrass Perry
by winning it, just like he did in California.
Politico’s misrepresentation of the CA event
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For the record, I invite anyone out there who still labors under the delusion that George W. Bush presided over some kind of “born again” Christian administration to check out the vast amounts of information I have compiled on my web site that exposes Bush as being just another big government elitist, who did as much (or more) to strip America of its God-given liberties as any other President in history. See the record at:
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?page_id=38
Furthermore, even cursory research will uncover the fact that the Bush and Clinton families have long collaborated together in criminal activity on a massive scale–activity that, in all likelihood, continues to this very day. …
Of course, G.W. Bush was never held accountable by evangelical Christian voters for his unconstitutional conduct. All they cared about was Bush’s Christian rhetoric. And it does appear that is all they care about today. …
Instead of being excited about a candidate claiming to be a Christian, or claiming to pray and read his or her Bible, we need to get excited about a candidate who is serious about preserving the liberties of the American people, and who makes a commitment to protect and preserve the principles enshrined in our Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and US Constitution! …
The sad truth is, our illustrious evangelical leaders on the right are just as culpable in the dismantling and deterioration of the American republic as are those on the political or religious left! Both sides are willing to give their favored politicos a pass on constitutional governance. …
Besides, if James Dobson and John Hagee were truly interested in protecting and preserving the principles enshrined in our Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and US Constitution, they would be promoting the candidacy of Ron Paul.
From: ChuckBaldwinLive.com…
Posted on Aug 11, 2011
We Don’t Need Another George W. Bush
Last Saturday, Texas Governor Rick Perry unofficially launched his 2012 Presidential candidacy in Houston (in my opinion). Speculation is he will officially announce his intentions this weekend in South Carolina. If he does declare his candidacy, many election-watchers say Perry will become the GOP frontrunner, due to an extremely weak field of declared candidates. If Perry does declare his candidacy, everyone will know that the Houston event was staged for the purpose of launching his Presidential bid, rhetoric to the contrary notwithstanding.
If Perry declares his candidacy (and I’m confident he will), people should also realize that the Houston event was a precursor to the type of campaign that Perry will use throughout the Republican primary season. As a fellow Texan, it was not lost on Rick Perry how George W. Bush obtained the Republican nomination–and eventually the White House. In short, Rick Perry is going to use the G.W. Bush model to win a Presidential election.
Think about it: G.W. Bush won the White House after an extremely unpopular liberal Democrat had been President. Barack Obama’s popularity is even lower than Bill Clinton’s was–and Clinton was only the second President in US history to ever be impeached! Bush’s campaign boss, Karl Rove, brilliantly painted G.W. Bush as being a wholesome “born again Christian,” which played very well with a Christian electorate that was tired of being embarrassed by a lying, philandering reprobate living in the White House.
In 2012, the American electorate, especially the Christian electorate, is totally fed up with an incumbent President whom everyone knows to be extremely sympathetic to Muslim and Marxist ideologies. Plus, a sizeable percentage of the American people truly suspect that Obama was NOT born in the United States and is, therefore, not even qualified to be President. This is the stage upon which Rick Perry appears. It is a stage very similar to the one George W. Bush stepped onto in 2000. And just as Bush played the “born again Christian” card to the max in the 2000 Presidential campaign, so Rick Perry appears to be ready to do in 2012. That is what the Houston event was all about last Saturday.
Billed as “A Day of Prayer and Fasting,” the event solidified Perry’s preferred status among evangelical Christians. With the help of the American Family Association (which reportedly contributed up to a million dollars to the event), James Dobson’s Focus on the Family, and Cornerstone Church’s (San Antonio) Pastor John Hagee, Perry is all but assured of cornering the “born again” vote, just as G.W. Bush did in 2000.
One would like to think that America’s Christians learned something from the two GWB administrations, but it doesn’t appear that they have. I think it is safe to say that Dobson, Hagee, et al, would endorse ANYONE nominated by the Republican Party. They have already proven that, have they not? James Dobson went so far as to humiliate himself by endorsing big government John McCain in the 2008 general elections, even after vowing publicly that he would “NEVER” support McCain. During the primaries, however, the Republican candidate who can “talk the Bible” the best can expect the support of these clueless evangelical leaders. And this time around, it appears that Rick Perry is that man. You can rest assured if Perry doesn’t win the nomination, Dobson and Hagee will be right there for whoever does.
For the record, I invite anyone out there who still labors under the delusion that George W. Bush presided over some kind of “born again” Christian administration to check out the vast amounts of information I have compiled on my web site that exposes Bush as being just another big government elitist, who did as much (or more) to strip America of its God-given liberties as any other President in history. See the record at:
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?page_id=38
Furthermore, even cursory research will uncover the fact that the Bush and Clinton families have long collaborated together in criminal activity on a massive scale–activity that, in all likelihood, continues to this very day. (I still say, don’t be surprised if Obama dumps Joe Biden as his Vice President and puts Hillary Clinton on the ticket before next year’s elections.)
Of course, G.W. Bush was never held accountable by evangelical Christian voters for his unconstitutional conduct. All they cared about was Bush’s Christian rhetoric. And it does appear that is all they care about today. As a result, Rick Perry will prove to be a formidable candidate in the GOP primaries.
I have said over and over again that I would rather vote for an unbeliever who would preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, than vote for a believer who would NOT preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States! The pious rhetoric of political candidates means nothing!
If I hire a plumber to fix a drainage problem at my house, I am not interested so much in where he goes to church, or whether he teaches Sunday School, or what denomination he claims. I am hiring him to fix my plumbing! We sign a contract, he and I. I promise to pay him “X” amount of dollars, and he promises that when he’s finished, my toilets will flush. Christian or not, I expect him to honor the terms of his contract.
Ladies and gentlemen, when we elect a civil magistrate (at any level), we are entering into a contract with the one we elected. We gave them our support, which allowed them to obtain public office, and they promise (before Almighty God) to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. They do not promise to be “good Christians.” They do not promise to be “good Republicans.” They do not promise to be “good conservatives.” They take an oath before God (they sign a contract with the American people) to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. And it is our job as citizens to hold our civil magistrates to their oath! In fact, if any elected office holder were a TRUE Christian, he or she would take their oath even more seriously, would they not?
Instead of being excited about a candidate claiming to be a Christian, or claiming to pray and read his or her Bible, we need to get excited about a candidate who is serious about preserving the liberties of the American people, and who makes a commitment to protect and preserve the principles enshrined in our Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and US Constitution!
Before we talk about Rick Perry’s commitment to prayer and fasting, let’s find out if Rick Perry believes that there must be a Declaration of War before America begins invading, bombing, and occupying foreign countries. Let’s find out if he believes he has the authority as President to use US military forces against American citizens. Let’s find out if he believes he has the authority to give billions and trillions of dollars away to foreign countries. Let’s find out if he plans to commit US military forces to the whims of the United Nations Security Council. Let’s find out if he supports the Military Commissions Act. Let’s find out if he supports the Patriot Act. Let’s find out if he believes the US government has the authority to use super-computers and advanced technology to continue to turn the United States into a giant surveillance-society. Let’s find out how serious he is about closing that southern border: speaking of which, what did Rick Perry do as governor of the border State of Texas to stop illegal immigration? And while we are on the subject of Border States, what did Rick Perry do to stop the NAFTA superhighway? Before we get excited about Rick Perry being a “good Christian,” let’s find out if he supports the Council of Governors, or the North American Union, or the Continuity of Government, or Agenda 21. Let’s find out if Perry will launch a Justice Department investigation into the ATF’s (under Barack Obama and Eric Holder) clandestine operation of providing firearms to Mexican drug gangs. We could go on and on with these kinds of questions.
The sad truth is, our illustrious evangelical leaders on the right are just as culpable in the dismantling and deterioration of the American republic as are those on the political or religious left! Both sides are willing to give their favored politicos a pass on constitutional governance. And ladies and gentlemen, that is why it hasn’t mattered to a tinker’s dam whether a Democrat or Republican, “liberal” or “conservative” is in the White House! And that’s why it won’t matter in 2012.
Besides, if James Dobson and John Hagee were truly interested in protecting and preserving the principles enshrined in our Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and US Constitution, they would be promoting the candidacy of Ron Paul. But, unfortunately, they wouldn’t do it in 2008, and they won’t do it in 2012. They lack both the courage and the sagacity.
We don’t need another George W. Bush in the White House. For that matter, we don’t need another Jimmy Carter in the White House. What we need is a President (governor, mayor, sheriff, etc.) who will preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States!
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This is beautiful —
from an atheist professor turned pastor
after a NDE.
We need to understand that God is for us.
He fully wanted us to overcome.
It’s not His fault….
His heart is grieved.
He has tried to get through to us,
and we have disappointed Him
because we have refused to listen.”
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Transcribed by Jeff Fenske:
“God has tried to get through to us…. We have been a big disappointment to God because we have just consistently refused to listen to God.”
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“As a pastor, people say ‘why does God allow this [evil]…. That question is predicated on a false assumption. God doesn’t want any of these things to happen. It’s all against God’s will. It’s our perverse nature, our sinful nature that allows these things to happen, that causes these things to happen. If we were following God’s will they wouldn’t be happening.
So we tend to ascribe to God all of the bad things that happen, and take responsibility for the good things that happen, when in reality it’s just the opposite.
God wants us to live in harmony with one another and in harmony with the creation. And the conflict and suffering we are experiencing in this world is of a human origin, not originated by God.
When Jesus came into the world it was a great opportunity for the whole world to find a new way of living and interacting with one another. And we all have failed.
And I would lay the greatest responsibility upon Christianity itself…. They were the ones that were given the clear transmission of what God’s desire was.
God is unhappy with humankind, unhappy with the way the world is going, unhappy with the way God’s beautiful creation is being treated. And God is intervening in a very direct way in the world today. And God and the angels are about trying to promote a spiritual awakening.”
“It was made clear to me this is it: ‘Wake up or the slate will be wiped clean.’ Now I’m not talking about the annihalation of the Earth. I’m talking about from a population of about whatever 260 million people the United States could go down to a population of a few tens of thousands.
We, the United States, who have been given the great blessing more than any other nation….”
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“They also told me that there is no sitting on the fence. You are either working for God’s good or you are opposed to God’s good.
To be indifferent to God’s good is to be opposed to it. There’s no middle ground in this, if you will, battle between good and evil. There’s nothing in between.
I would say that most people say ‘You know, I’m good; I’m not doing anybody harm.’ That’s not good. That’s evil. You have to be out there loving God, loving your neighbor, and living that if you’re really part of God’s plan for this world.”
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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfy_R_OB7G4]The Future of the United States (Please watch, comment, rate!)
Uploaded by cocoalovethax on Feb 1, 2009
In 1985, Howard Storm had a near-death experience. As an avowed atheist, he found himself bewildered by the fact that his physical body was laying on the hospital bed, and yet could move around outside of his own body. He was tortured and beaten up by beings before being saved by a huge ball of light, which he believed to be Jesus. Beings of light gave him a life review, and he learned the true path that is meant for humanity: love. These beings of light showed him many things including but not limited to: revelations about religion, the bible, extraterrestrial life, the future of the world, and the future of the U.S. This is an interview segment about the future of the United States.
The most radical change is that before his NDE he was a cold hearted atheist professor, and afterwards changed to a warm hearted Christian minister. Feel free to upload this video to your own accounts, as to get this guy’s incredible story out. More information about Howard Storm can be found on Wikipedia and a more vivid account of his story on near-death.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Storm
http://www.near-death.com/storm.html
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“Let Us Be ONE” (A Prophecy — 2001-02, 2008)
Part 1: A Kindness that I Want to Flow From My Body
Part 2: Jesus’ Heart-Cry: “Let Us Be ONE”
Part 34: ‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/08/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On THE BOAT With YOU”
According to what the founders said,
the end is now near.
Once-saved-always-saved
has destroyed America.
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“Without virtue there can be no liberty.”
– Benjamin Rush
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“Perfect freedom consists in obeying the dictates of right reason . . . where licentiousness begins, liberty ends.”
– Samuel West
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“History fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. There has been either a spiritual awakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster.”
– Douglas MacArthur
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“While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.”
– Samuel Adams
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From: free2pray.info…
Quotes of the Founding Fathers
The Importance of a Moral Society
John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”…
Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence said. “[T]he only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind.”
Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary said, “[T]he Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence.”
Gouverneur Morris, Penman and Signer of the Constitution. “[F]or avoiding the extremes of despotism or anarchy . . . the only ground of hope must be on the morals of the people. I believe that religion is the only solid base of morals and that morals are the only possible support of free governments. [T]herefore education should teach the precepts of religion and the duties of man towards God.”
Fisher Ames author of the final wording for the First Amendment wrote, “[Why] should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a school book? Its morals are pure, its examples captivating and noble. The reverence for the Sacred Book that is thus early impressed lasts long; and probably if not impressed in infancy, never takes firm hold of the mind.”
John Jay, Original Chief-Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court , “The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts.”
James Wilson, Signer of the Constitution; U. S. Supreme Court Justice, “Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other.”
Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary stated, “The moral principles and precepts contained in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. . . All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.”
Robert Winthrop, Speaker of the U. S. House, “Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them or by a power without them; either by the Word of God or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or by the bayonet.”
George Washington, General of the Revolutionary Army, president of the Constitutional Convention, First President of the United States of America, Father of our nation, “Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society.”
Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration of Independence “[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.”
“Whereas true religion and good morals are the only solid foundations of public liberty and happiness . . . it is hereby earnestly recommended to the several States to take the most effectual measures for the encouragement thereof.” Continental Congress, 1778
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Note that the above quotes are but a small sample of hundreds of quotes the Founding Fathers made in regards to the importance of a religious and moral people in a successful Republican Democracy.
In our young nation, the Bible was used as a text book for the purpose of teaching children moral principles to live by. As time went on, the Bible was gradually replaced by other text books such as Noah Webster’s Primer. Webster’s Primer taught children to spell but was also filled with moral Bible verses. In the front of his Primer was his picture with the inscription, “Who taught millions to read but not one to sin.”
This is the exact opposite of the school curriculum today. The courts in this country have revised the First Amendment, thus erecting a wall of atheism around every public school in America, where in God is not allowed to be mentioned. This is not the same wall that Thomas Jefferson envisioned.
Has the School Prayer issue affected other Freedoms?
* Quotes on this page are from David Bartons videos and books, which are on sale at www.wallbuilders.com.
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From: liberty1.org/virtue.htm
QUOTES ON LIBERTY AND VIRTUE
Compiled and Edited by J. David Gowdy, President
The Washington, Jefferson & Madison Institute
lib-er-ty\ ‘lib-er-te` \ n [ME, fr. MF liberte’, fr. L libertat, libertas, fr. liber free]
1. FREEDOM 2. POWER 3. CHOICE 4. RIGHT 5. PRIVILEGE 6. DUTY 7. STANDARD
vir-tue\ ‘ver-(,)chu: \ n [ME virtu, fr. OF, L virtut-, virtus strength, virtue]
1. MORALITY 2. POWER 3. VALOR 4. MERIT 5. CHASTITY 6. FORCE 7. AUTHORITY
“[V]irtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government.”
George Washington
“Can it be that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue? ”
George Washington
“[T]here is no truth more thoroughly established, than that there exists . . . an indissoluble union between virtue and happiness.”
George Washington
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness — these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles.”
George Washington
“The aggregate happiness of the society, which is best promoted by the practice of a virtuous policy, is, or ought to be, the end of all government . . . .”
George Washington
“Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people. The general government . . . can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, an oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any despotic or oppressive form so long as there is any virtue in the body of the people.”
George Washington
“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.”
Benjamin Franklin
“Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.”
Benjamin Franklin
“A nation as a society forms a moral person, and every member of it is personally responsible for his society.”
Thomas Jefferson
“No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and . . . . their minds are to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and to be deterred from those of vice . . . . These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure and order of government.”
Thomas Jefferson
“It is in the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigour. . . . degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats into the heart of its laws and constitution.”
Thomas Jefferson
“[In a republic, according to Montesquieu in Spirit of the Laws, IV,ch.5,] ‘virtue may be defined as the love of the laws and of our country. As such love requires a constant preference of public to private interest, it is the source of all private virtue; for they are nothing more than this very preference itself… Now a government is like everything else: to preserve it we must love it . . . Everything, therefore, depends on establishing this love in a republic; and to inspire it ought to be the principal business of education; but the surest way of instilling it into children is for parents to set them an example.'”
Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book.
“When virtue is banished, ambition invades the minds of those who are disposed to receive it, and avarice possesses the whole community.”
Montesquieu (written by Thomas Jefferson in his Common Place Book).
“Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.”
Thomas Jefferson
“Liberty . . . is the great parent of science and of virtue; and . . . a nation will be great in both always in proportion as it is free.”
Thomas Jefferson
“The order of nature [is] that individual happiness shall be inseparable from the practice of virtue.”
Thomas Jefferson
“Without virtue, happiness cannot be.”
Thomas Jefferson
“The institution of delegated power implies that there is a portion of virtue and honor among mankind which may be a reasonable foundation of confidence.”
Alexander Hamilton
“To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea.”
James Madison
“The aim of every political Constitution, is or ought to be first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust.”
James Madison
“. . . Virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone that renders us invincible. These are the tactics we should study. If we lose these, we are conquered, fallen indeed . . . so long as our manners and principles remain sound, there is no danger.”
Patrick Henry
“Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.”
Patrick Henry …
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our constitution as a whale goes through a net.”
John Adams
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
John Adams
“Liberty can no more exist without virtue and independence than the body can live and move without a soul.”
John Adams
“Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private, and public virtue is the only foundation of republics.”
John Adams
“[I]t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.”
John Adams
“The laws of man may bind him in chains or may put him to death, but they never can make him wise, virtuous, or happy.”
John Adams
“Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure than they have it now, they may change their rulers and the forms of government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.”
John Adams
“Honor is truly sacred, but holds a lower rank in the scale of moral excellence than virtue. Indeed the former is part of the latter, and consequently has not equal pretensions to support a frame of government productive of human happiness.”
John Adams
“Human nature itself is evermore an advocate for liberty. There is also in human nature a resentment of injury, and indignation against wrong. A love of truth and a veneration of virtue. These amiable passions, are the “latent spark”… If the people are capable of understanding, seeing and feeling the differences between true and false, right and wrong, virtue and vice, to what better principle can the friends of mankind apply than to the sense of this difference?”
John Adams
“Our liberty depends on our education, our laws, and habits . . . it is founded on morals and religion, whose authority reigns in the heart, and on the influence all these produce on public opinion before that opinion governs rulers.”
Fisher Ames
“It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.”
Richard Henry Lee
“Whenever we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.”
Thomas Paine
“[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man.”
Samuel Adams
“The diminution of public virtue is usually attended with that of public happiness, and the public liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals.”
Samuel Adams
“[M]en will be free no longer then while they remain virtuous.”
Samuel Adams
“No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.”
Samuel Adams
“A general dissolution of the principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy…. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader…. If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security.”
Samuel Adams
“No people can be great who have ceased to be virtuous.”
Samuel Johnson
“No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people, but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality and virtue, and by frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.”
George Mason
“[A] free government . . . cannot be supported without Virtue.”
Samuel Williams
“In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. Regard not the particular sect or denomination of the candidate — look at his character. It is alleged by men of loose principles, or defective views of the subject, that religion and morality are not necessary or important qualifications for political stations. But the scriptures teach a different doctrine. They direct that rulers should be men who rule in the fear of God, men of truth, hating covetousness. It is to the neglect of this rule that we must ascribe the multiplied frauds, breaches of trust, speculations and embezzlements of public property which astonish even ourselves; which tarnish the character of our country and which disgrace our government. When a citizen gives his vote to a man of known immorality, he abuses his civic responsibility; he not only sacrifices his own responsibility; he sacrifices not only his own interest, but that of his neighbor; he betrays the interest of his country.”
Noah Webster
“…if the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded.”
Noah Webster
“Let a man’s zeal, profession, or even principles as to political measures be what they will, if he is without personal integrity and private virtue, as a man he is not to be trusted.”
John Witherspoon
“… the manners of the people in general are of the utmost moment to the stability of any civil society. When the body of a people are altogether corrupt in their manners, the government is ripe for dissolution.”
John Witherspoon
“So true is this, that civil liberty cannot be long preserved without virtue.”
John Witherspoon
“… but a republic once equally poised, must either preserve its virtue or lose its liberty, and by some tumultuous revolution, either return to its first principles, or assume a more unhappy form.”
John Witherspoon
“A country cannot subsist well without liberty, nor liberty without virtue.”
Jean Jacques Rousseau
“Machiavel, discoursing on these matters, finds virtue to be so essentially necessary to the establishment and preservation of liberty, that he thinks it impossible for a corrupted people to set up a good government, or for a tyranny to be introduced if they be virtuous; and makes this conclusion, ‘That where the matter (that is, the body of the people) is not corrupted, tumults and disorders do not hurt; and where it is corrupted, good laws do no good:’ which being confirmed by reason and experience, I think no wise man has ever contradicted him.”
Algernon Sidney
“[L]iberty cannot be preserved, if the manners of the people are corrupted . . .”
Algernon Sidney
“[A]ll popular and well-mixed governments [republics] . . . are ever established by wise and good men, and can never be upheld otherwise than by virtue: The worst men always conspiring against them, they must fall, if the best have not power to preserve them. . . . [and] unless they be preserved in a great measure free from vices . . . .”
Algernon Sidney
“Fruits are always of the same nature with the seeds and roots from which they come, and trees are known by the fruits they bear: as a man begets a man, and a beast a beast, that society of men which constitutes a government upon the foundation of justice, virtue, and the common good, will always have men to promote those ends; and that which intends the advancement of one man’s desire and vanity, will abound in those that will foment them.”
Algernon Sidney
“[I]f vice and corruption prevail, liberty cannot subsist; but if virtue have the advantage, arbitrary power cannot be established.”
Algernon Sidney
“If the public safety be provided, liberty and propriety secured, justice administered, virtue encouraged, vice suppressed, and the true interest of the nation advanced, the ends of government are accomplished . . .”
Algernon Sidney
“[L]iberty without virtue would be no blessing to us.”
Benjamin Rush
“Without virtue there can be no liberty.”
Benjamin Rush
“The only foundation for… a republic is to be laid in Religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.”
Benjamin Rush
“No free government can stand without virtue in the people, and a lofty spirit of partiotism.”
Andrew Jackson
“Lastly, our ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits.”
Daniel Webster
“[I]f we and our posterity reject religious instruction and authority, violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us, that shall bury all our glory in profound obscurity.”
Daniel Webster
“Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
Horace Greely
“What is liberty without wisdom and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.”
Edmund Burke
“Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist.”
Edmund Burke
“Manners are of more importance than laws. Upon them in great measure the laws depend. The law touches us but here and there, and now and then. Manners are what vex and smooth, corrupt or purify, exalt or debase, barbarize or refine us, by a constant, steady, uniform, insensible operation, like that of the air we breathe in. They give their whole form and color to our lives. According to their quality, they aid morals, they support them, or they totally destroy them.”
Edmund Burke
“It is better to cherish virtue and humanity, by leaving much to free will, even with some loss of the object , than to attempt to make men mere machines and instruments of political benevolence. The world on the whole will gain by a liberty, without which virtue cannot exist.”
Edmund Burke
“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their appetites; in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsel of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
Edmund Burke
“Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist.”
Edmund Burke
“[T]he very best forms of government are vain without public virtue . . . .”
William A. Cocke
“No polity can be devised which shall perpetuate freedom among a people that are dead to honor and integrity. Liberty and virtue are twin sisters, and the best fabric in the world . . . .”
James H. Thornwell
“[P]erfect freedom consists in obeying the dictates of right reason, and submitting to natural law. When a man goes beyond or contrary to the law of nature and reason, he . . . introduces confusion and disorder into society . . . [thus] where licentiousness begins, liberty ends.”
Samuel West
“When was public virtue to be found when private was not?”
William Cowper
“The laws by which the Divine Ruler of the universe has decreed an indissoluble connection between public happiness and private virtue, whatever apparent exceptions may delude our short-sighted judgments, never fail to vindicate their supremacy and immutability.”
William Cabell Rives
“Unless virtue guide us our choice must be wrong.”
William Penn
“If men be good, government cannot be bad.”
William Penn
“The life of the nation is secure only while the nation is honest, truthful and virtuous.”
Frederick Douglas
“[R]eligion, morality and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall be forever encouraged.”
Northwest Ordinance of 1787
“I consider the domestic virtue of the Americans as the principle source of all their other qualities. It acts as a promoter of industry, as a stimulus to enterprise and as the most powerful restraint of public vice. . . . No government could be established on the same principle as that of the United States with a different code of morals.”
Francis Grund
“The American Constitution is remarkable for its simplicity; but it can only suffice a people habitually correct in their actions, and would be utterly inadequate to the wants of a different nation. Change the domestic habits of the Americans, their religious devotion, and their high respect for morality, and it will not be necessary to change a single letter in the Constitution in order to vary the whole form of their government.”
Francis Grund
“History fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. There has been either a spiritual awakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster.”
Douglas MacArthur
“[Liberty] considers religion as the safeguard of morality, and morality as the best security of law and the surest pledge of the duration of freedom.”
Alexis de Tocqueville
“I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her comodious harbors and her ample rivers, and it was not there; in her fertile fields and boundless prairies; and it was not there; in her rich mines and her vast commerce, and it was not there. Not until I visited the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”
An old adage attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville
“Somehow strangely the vice of men gets well represented and protected but their virtue has none to plead its cause — nor any charter of immunities and rights.”
Henry David Thoreau
“To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.”
Theodore Roosevelt
“We have never stopped sin by passing laws; and in the same way, we are not going to take a great moral ideal and achieve it merely by law.”
Dwight D. Eisenhower
“No government at any level, or at any price, can afford, on the crime side, the police necessary to assure our safety unless the overwhelming majority of us are guided by an inner, personal code of morality. And you will not get that inner, personal code of morality unless children are brought up in a family — a family that gives them the affection they seek, that makes them feel they belong, that guides them to the future, and that will build continuity in future generations. . . . the greatest inequality today is not inequality of wealth or income. It is the inequality between the child brought up in a loving, supportive family and one who has been denied that birthright.”
Lady Margaret Thatcher
“A state is nothing more than a reflection of its citizens; the more decent the citizens, the more decent the state.”
Ronald Reagan
“Today it would be progress if everyone would stop talking about values. Instead, let us talk, as the Founders did, about virtues.”
George Will
“The ultimate success of this government and the stability of its institutions, its progress in all that can make a nation honored, depend upon its adherence to the principles of truth and righteousness.”
John Lord
“Righteousness exalteth a nation.”
Proverbs 14:34
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[FreedomQuote] Erin Gruwell: “Evil prevails when good people do nothing.”
This is a follow-up to Can Sarah Palin be a real, going-to-heaven Christian?
The answer is actually clear: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
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From: Politico, 11/9/10
Palin Clan Encourages Bristol
It was Latin night for Bristol as she danced both the Argentine tango….
She warned her mother that the beginning of her dance was “kind of scandalous.” “Is it like lap dancing scandalous?” a denim jacket-clad Sarah Palin [giggling, darting out her tongue – editor] asked her daughter. Bristol nodded her head yes and then showed her parents what turned out to be a very PG-rated dance.
“I’m always telling Bristol, just be confident, just have fun. Todd and I, the grandparents, the cousins aunts and uncles, everybody, we are so extremely proud of Bristol,” the former Alaska governor said, before advising her daughter to “just dominate! Just take over,” when she dances.
Entire Article with Video Here
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Can Sarah Palin be a real, going-to-heaven Christian?
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Pat Buchanan: “On foreign policy … Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are on opposite sides completely.” What would Jesus do?
What is Anchorage’s new statue sitting there thinking? “Why does Alaska still support Sarah Palin, the OPPOSITE OF RON PAUL on foreign interventionism?” — & — “Why did ‘Christians’ in this town vote for George W. Bush, the OPPOSITE OF JESUS on foreign interventionism, TWICE?”
What Would Jesus Do, Sarah? Palin Uses Crosshairs To Identify Dems Who Voted For Health Care Reform
Palin Goes Rogue Against Tea Party Candidates, by Valerie Richardson
Chuck Baldwin: A Warning To The Tea Party Nation — “Be careful about Sarah Palin…playing both sides.” “The Nation also needs to be careful about Glenn Beck.”
Globalist Kingpin, Henry Kissinger to teach Sarah Palin about foreign affairs
Joel Skousen: “One of my greatest disappointments is to see that the conservatives are being completely snookered by Sarah Palin”
Palin: ‘In MY WORLD,’ ‘it is OBVIOUS to me who the GOOD GUYS…and who the BAD GUYS are’
Chuck Baldwin: Sarah Palin’s Answers—Very Troubling
Sarah Palin: U.S. Troops in Iraq Doing God’s Will — “A Task that is From God”
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske
“Life is precious. … You’ve heard all of the arguments…. But as an OB doctor, let me tell you: life does begin at conception.
Also, it’s very legal….”
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“During the 1960s…, cultural changes were occurring. and that is when abortion became commonplace. So the people change before the laws change. So morality has a lot to do with legislation.
We don’t have abortions today because the law permits it. That’s made it worse, but the law accommodated the social changes that occurred. It was the breakdown of our social system at that time.”
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“It is getting to be epidemic that the family values, and the families have broken down, and this is where our real problems come from. We would like to think all we have to do is elect the right politicians and everything is going to be okay. But believe me, the government is a reflection of the people. That’s why the burden is on people like you to make sure that we have those values.”
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Citing 1 Samuel 8, Paul recalls how Israel wanted a king as a substitute for God:
“I don’t think we need a king and we don’t need Washington to act as if they’re the king!”
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“What about a biblical understanding about what honest money is about? What about honest weights and measures and no paper currency and no Federal Reserve that destroys our currency? There’s nothing moral about our financial system and our monetary system. And this recent breakdown of our system is proof positive of it.”
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“Since the Crash of 2008, our dollar actually has been devalued 50% against gold. So therefore look out for trouble. The odds of us cutting back over on the hill and live sensibly aren’t very good. So we are going to be challenged.
We are going to be challenged because we will not be able to depend on our king. … You’re going to have to depend upon yourself, your family, your friends, your neighbors and your church to be prepared.”
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“The people that ought to be sacrificing are the people who ripped us off in the building up of the bubble, and then we went and bailed them out and they’re making big bucks again. And the people who are suffering is the middle class. They lost their jobs; they lost their mortgages; they lost their houses. A moral society would not let that happen.”
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“The educational system should be through the family and the church. We should be promoting home schooling and private schooling and not depending on our public school system!”
– Congressman Ron Paul
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Description from Daily Paul:
CSPAN recorded the live feed from the Faith & Freedom Coalition Conference in Washington, DC. Ron Paul gave a great speech:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_z0vC6rQv4]Ron Paul “We Should Not Have These Perpetual Wars!”
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June 03, 2011 C-SPAN
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“I like your Christ;
I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
– Mahatma Gandhi
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Since posting, I have found that some dispute that Gandhi said this. I found the following:
I can’t find any source for him stating the quote as such. I did find a book, The Knights Templar & the Protestant Reformation, which states that when Stanley Jones, a missionary met with Ghandi he asked him:
Mr. Gandhi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?
Gandhi replied:
Oh, I don’t reject Christ. I love Christ. It’s just that so many of you Christians are so unlike Christ.
The book seems to have a reference, although I can’t check what it is as the references page is not on Google Books.
The quote seems to be from the book Mr. Gandhi, the man by Millie Graham Polak although the book is not viewable online.
Searching the book for the first part of the passage quoted in the knights templar book, “Is Mr. Gandhi a Christian?” returns a hit, although searching for “stanley jones” or “reject christ” does not.
In The Christ of the Indian Road by E. Stanley Jones, Stanley Jones asked Gandhi how to naturalize Christianity into India. Gandhi replied in part:
I would suggest first of all that all of you Christians, missionaries and all begin to live more like Jesus Christ.
This could be in part where the quote came from, if it was never said directly by Gandhi.
Given the amount of consistent references to the quote being said in reply to a question from Stanley Jones, I think it is likely something very similar to the oft quoted passage was said. I can’t find anything online that shows this for certain and don’t have access to the books where the quote may appear to check, so it’s hard to say for sure.
Dave A. responds in a comment to this post (below):
The information I have so far attributes the proximate statement in Stanley’s book to Bara Dada and not to Gandhi. I have a first edition copy of “Mr. Gandhi the Man” by Polak (1931) and I assure you that the Gandhi quote is NOT in that book. He speaks to his friend about his attraction to Christianity and the possibility of becoming Christian himself. His reasons for not doing so, he explains, have to do with his sense that he has found, in his “native” Hindu religion, all of the essential values that Christianity promotes. He is in a sense a universalist, believing that a path to God can be found in every major religion. There are no disparaging remarks about Christians in the book. Gandhi’s history is one of reconciliation and marshalling people from many faith communities to promote freedom and justice. That work began in earnest in South Africa, where he brought Christians together with other adherents for his social justice work.
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From: News with Views
BLIND GUIDES
By Coach Dave Daubenmire
February 3, 2011
NewsWithViews.com
For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed. -Is. 9:16
And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? -Luke 6:39
“To be honest with you Coach, you don’t need to LEAD a Bible study; you need to be part of one.”
That was the last thing that my former “pastor” said to me. It happened about seven years ago after I had endured another sissified “men’s meeting” at the church Michele and I had been attending.
The “pastor” had just taken us through one of those touchy-feely-get-in-touch-with-your-feelings lessons and I was about to overdose on Spiritual Diabetes when I approached “Pastor” and asked him if it would be possible for me to help him out by taking over the “men’s ministry”.
“You’re training men to act like women. All that I see around here are a bunch of ‘yes’ men…men who say ‘yes’ to their wives, ‘yes’ to their children, ‘yes’ to the God-hating schools, and ‘above all ‘yes’ to the pastor.”
I never darkened the door again. Today his church is bigger, full of sissified ‘yes” men, he is the unchallenged leader of the pack, with, of course, his bossy “co-pastor” wife, and his flock are sitting ducks.
They don’t even know that they are about to fall into a ditch.
I love writing these commentaries because of the feedback I get from the readers. There are millions of non church-going Christians in the hinterlands of America. God-fearing men and women who love their Lord, love their country, but have had a craw-full of the syrup spewing forth from the pulpits.
The “blind guides” demand loyalty and allegiance to their every command, shooing away the mal-content sheep, as “rebels”, or “troublemakers”, by the millions “the church” is bleeding ‘salt of the earth” Christians in a world where sugar has become the spice of choice.
I hear from them…and I bleat their case. Dare I say it…I pound the drum of disobedience in the church for “resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.” America is in the condition that she is in, not because of the poison in politics, but because of the poison in the pulpits. Most pastors are control freaks.
(I bet this is making those spiritual tyrants nervous.)
I say it is time we stopped worrying about “reclaiming the government” and focused our attention on “reclaiming our churches.” If we can somehow reclaim God’s house, the White House will naturally follow.
America’s problems are spiritual, not political. Read this commentary…it is a dandy.
Most Christians are sheep, blindly following their “shepherd”, obediently paying their tithes, supporting their “pastor” no matter what bilge he is shoving down their throats, completely ill-equipped to defend the faith.
Sheep don’t care whether they end up in a ditch or not, as long as there is plenty of grass on which to graze, even if the ditch is an off-ramp that leads to the slaughter house. Like lambs to the slaughter they ignorantly follow their blind guide.
If you like this, please check out especially my Dr. Stanley Monteith category at ToBeFree.
Bless you!
jeff : )
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“God is looking for people to step up to the plate and be overcomers in these last days, and be sold out completely to Him, and be willing to do what He calls them to do without being embarrassed or bashful or unwilling.”
– Gary Kah
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from:
Dr. Stan’s Radio Liberty audio archives
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Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
We even kidnap citizens in their own countries, and send them to Egypt for interrogation and torture!
And the main reason most American ‘Christians’ don’t really care is because of the once-saved-always-saved doctrinal heresy. Being “in Christ” no longer means being in Christ.
We were supposed to be salt and light: The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit?
What goes around comes around. We can fool ourselves, but we can’t fool God. There is a reason why He stays at a distance these days.
Paul in Galatians 6:
7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. 9 Let us not be weary in doing good, for we will reap in due season, if we don’t give up.
From: Belfast Telegraph
Pope’s child porn ‘normal’ claim sparks outrage among victims
Tuesday, 21 December 2010
Victims of clerical sex abuse have reacted furiously to Pope Benedict’s claim yesterday that paedophilia wasn’t considered an “absolute evil” as recently as the 1970s.
In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.
“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.
“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than’ and a ‘worse than‘. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”
The Pope said abuse revelations in 2010 reached “an unimaginable dimension” which brought “humiliation” on the Church.
Asking how abuse exploded within the Church, the Pontiff called on senior clerics “to repair as much as possible the injustices that occurred” and to help victims heal through a better presentation of the Christian message.
“We cannot remain silent about the context of these times in which these events have come to light,” he said, citing the growth of child pornography “that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society” he said.
But outraged Dublin victim Andrew Madden last night insisted that child abuse was not considered normal in the company he kept.
Entire Article Here
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Malachi Martin — Satan Enthroned in Vatican?
The Bad Popes
All of my The Catholic Deception posts
Our End
Our Legacy
Our Perspective
Our Bad Doctrine!
Sad
&
Shameful
We had it all!
We’ve been Platooned!
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfxqZagHXbM]Platoon Soundtrack
theme from the movie!
Composer – Samuel Barber
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Our End
Our Legacy
Their Perspective
The world parties;
though, some feel a tinge of pain,
a bit of guilt for being so happy
as they see our body parts strewn all over.
Where were the Bonhoeffers,
the disciples of Christ??
AMAZING song – actually!
This first one has 3.5 million hits!
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lOB0my97SA]DJ Tiesto – Adagio for strings
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Longer version with coherent ending
Play over and over to lose weight.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGfq57asAzA]Dj Tiesto-Adagio For Strings
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Why We Got Jacked
What goes around comes around
Did we ever apologize?
Or were we too proud?
“Sorry…?“
Where were the Bonhoeffers,
and therefore
where were the disciples of Christ?!!
“The world wants to know!”
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECQeLQURNuw]
Didn’t we learn from history
(pastors in Nazi Germany),
God’s written word
(what Paul really said),
and the HOLY Spirit
Who was supposed to
lead us into all truth?!
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Related:
The ‘church’ is responsible:
The Red Gate Prophecy — What If I Open It Just a Little Bit?
Are you ready to meet your Maker?
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way |
Who are the Children of God?