“Vision is not enough.
It must be combined with venture.
It is not enough to stare up the steps,
we must step up the stairs.”
– Vaclav Havel
Category: Prophecies Dreams & Visions Page 4 of 6
From: Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural, July 14-20, 2008 | pdf of Entire Interview
[RADIO BROADCAST]
Sid Roth:
My guest as a young man met elderly people
who were involved in the biggest move of miracles
in the history of America.
It was called the Azusa Street Revival.
He tells me that he met some of the people and heard
first hand what occurred, stories such as ears
that did not exist popping back into place,
arms that did not exist coming out and growing,
these are called creative miracles.
Did you know that the Azusa Street Revival
that happened in the early 1900′s was the
first integrated church in America?
God picked a one-eyed black man to lead the greatest
move of God’s Spirit in miracles I believe since the first
coming of the Messiah….
* * *
Sid: Tell me one miracle that you heard of that occurred with William Seymour?
Tommy: The greatest that I knew of was that Brother Seymour would tell them to sing in the Spirit and then that fire would come up out of the roof, would come down and then he…
Sid: Wait, you are going too fast for my peanut brain. A fire would go through a roof?
Tommy: Yes.
Sid: Explain what you mean.
Tommy: Okay a fire would come up out of the roof and the fire would go up about fifty feet and the fire about fifty feet away from it in the sky would come down and mingle with it.
Sid: Could people see this fire?
Tommy: Oh yes, matter of fact they got many calls to the fire department, not from people in the meeting, but from people outside that would see it.
Sid: Really, it was the fire of God’s glory.
Tommy: Yes, now it wouldn’t consume, you didn’t smell any fire, but that is when the greatest miracles would happen, and he would, he got up was telling them and Brother David Garcia was there, and he said, he was the
one that told me about it
* * *
Tommy: … And the man’s arm had been ripped out on a job related with a big machine, and it had ripped out even the shoulder.
Sid: So in other words he did not have the limb
Tommy: He didn’t have the shoulder, the arm or nothing, and he, when he prayed for him Brother Garcia said “Brother Tommy, I was standing very close where I could look right down into that socket and see the bone.”
And he said, “Brother Seymour prayed for him, and he just kind of stood there for a while with his hands on his head smiling,” “All of a sudden that bone started growing out and right behind it would come this flesh going around the bone.”
And he said it probably took about two seconds, but to him it was in slow motion. And that mans arm just grew out, and he said within a few minutes even the fingernails grew back on his fingers.
* * *
Sid: Now William Seymour prophesied about the next revival that will come, tell me about that.
Tommy: He prophesied that in about a hundred years, he did this in 1909, that there would be a…
Sid: So about a hundred years would be 2009?
Tommy: Yes, that would be about, before or after?
Sid: About, okay.
Tommy: He said another revival like unto Azusa Street, only greater, would come again, only this time it wouldn’t be in one place, it would be all over the world….
[But it’s gotta start somewhere – jeff]
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Tommy: It was the shekinah glory, it was a smoky looking kind of, one woman said kind of an orangey color, and it went on over to the young people and they all fell out in the spirit and hysterical laughter, they just couldn’t stop laughing and four brand new converts came up to Brother David and said Brother David it dawned on them and they had only the baptism a few weeks, they figured out what this stuff is and he kind of laughed and said, “What is this?” They said, “It’s God’s laughing gas.”
[TV BROADCAST]
Guest: Tommy Welchel |pdf of Entire Interview
Azusa Street Revival | It’s Supernatural with Sid Roth | Tommy Welchel
Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural!
Published on Oct 21, 2013
This week on Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural, as a young man, Tommy Welchel lived among the survivors of the Azusa Street Revival. Now he shares the impartations he received from the very people who were there!
Related:
Tommy Welchel on William Seymour and Charles Parham’s 100-Year Prophecy: On the same day in 1909, hundreds of miles apart, they both prophesied God’s visible shekina glory would return to earth after 100 years, but this time everywhere!
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s *1909 prophecy* of the SHEKINAH GLORY RETURNING to the church *in 100 years*: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. ..the fear of God was on the community, and…they were highly esteemed” | My theory …
Smith Wigglesworth: “THE LAST DAY REVIVAL WILL BE THE GREATEST revival this world has ever seen!”
(audio) Sid Roth on ‘Coast to Coast AM’ 9/1/13: Miracles & Healing — Why did the Azusa St. revival stop (1906-1909)? William Seymour “became too sophisticated for the box” — to hear and obey — but prophesied an even greater revival would happen in 100 years!
Sid Roth: The missing ingredient, speaking in tongues — “I believe that God wants to restore this gift for the last great push of God’s spirit”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!
Asbury Revival, 1970: “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘Dr. Kinlaw, I’M FREE!’”
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzhKIViD0RU]tommy welchel seymoures 100 year prophecy
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tommy welchel talking with randy clark sharing some more about parham and seymores 100 year prophecy. The shekina glory never left azusa, even thout the pentecost fire and creative miralces went all over the world. in late 1909, on the same day, they both prophecied the azusa glory, the visible shekina glory, would return to earth after 100 years, but now everywhere.
Related:
The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s 1909 prophecy of the shekinah glory returning to the church in 100 years: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. …the fear of God was on the community, and no one dared join them. But they were highly esteemed. Why did no one dare join them?”
Smith Wigglesworth: “THE LAST DAY REVIVAL WILL BE THE GREATEST revival this world has ever seen!”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
Abbott Loop CC Cross:
We MUST Die In Order To Live!!!
NOTE: The dream I’m sharing here is the second dream I had in which ‘ONE’ was happening. The first one I saw in the late ’80s, where a former elder was leading and everyone was happy!
Also, I have no doubt that this is a word from the Lord. Does that mean it will happen, or that it has to happen?
I believe that God shows us things that He wants to happen. “Those who are led by the Spirit are the children of God” (Romans 8). He wants to lead us. But He also gives us free will. Many things that God shows people only can happen if we do what He’s leading us to do. And in this case, many people are involved.
God wants this to happen, and I personally believe this will happen, based upon what I know of the people involved; though, I think most of what God directs people to do never happens, because most don’t hear and obey. But we don’t have to be like most people. And we can change the climate so the percentage of people hearing and obeying greatly rises.
So there is no doubt that God will help us do our parts so His will will happen. But we must do our parts. And a big part of that for me is being patient, doing my part under authority without bothering anyone, like in the dream.
– Jeff
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I had a dream a number of years ago in which I was closing up an LD3 container (an airline freight container that we use at work) in the middle-back of Abbott Loop Community Church (ALCC).
It was a very complicated container (way more than they really are in the natural), and I was making a lot of noise trying to close it — “button it up — but it didn’t bother anybody in the auditorium, who were listening to a man whom I didn’t recognize speak from the pulpit.
When I finished putting together the container, I walked forward and the leader had me lead worship [Years ago, I had led worship many times, but never in the main auditorium]. I led from within the midst of the people, on the main floor, in the center, maybe 10 rows back, singing “Holy and Anointed One.”
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkW_PhFw0zM]Holy and Anointed One (with lyrics)
As soon as I started singing the first word, “Jesus,” everyone’s hands went straight up! No one was worshiping part way!
I interpret this to mean (if someone has more insight I’m open to suggestions):
I was doing my part, by myself, loading this extremely complex container. This is probably my research, shown here on this site. And there has been a lot of specific prayer, which I explain here.
Working on the container made a lot of noise, but it didn’t bother the people. I’ve been very careful to give people space, having learned from my previous mistakes.
The people were getting taught by the leader, while I was doing my thing, apart from them. But we were in the same building and they could here the noise of my work. The people at ALCC have been learning some significant things, like the importance of forgiving — that demons can directly affect Christians — etc..
And when I was done with my project, the leader let me lead worship this one time and everyone worshiped, their arms straight up toward God. When the leader(s) and I got on the same page, doctrinally (especially!), then ONE (Jesus’ prayer for us in John 17) happened. Everyone was right with God and each other so they could totally worship in Spirit and in truth, absolutely holy hands raised high, no holding back — pure!
That must mean that there was complete reconciliation in God’s eyes. And I couldn’t see the power and comfort of God that everyone felt, but having been in many mini-revivals I can only imagine…!
So my best guess is that the scriptures in the header at the top of this site were all fulfilled, and we were ready for anything that might come our way.
Unity happened at Abbott Loop!
Abbott Loop CC’s Sign —
“Our Vision: A Pursuing Love of God
and One Another”
Jeff : )
(((stereo)))[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olBnC2nxCNw]Brian Doerksen: Holy and anointed one
Related:
The Coming Revival (from my personal blog, 1/10/11)
My 1990 Key-to-Revival Prophecy: “There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to…”
(video) Asbury Revival, 1970: RECONCILIATION the KEY! — “‘Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?’ … Three days later, she came to me radiant, and she said, ‘I just hit my 34th person and I’m free!’”
The Welsh Revival of 1904-05 by J. Edwin Orr: A Countrywide Asbury-like REVIVAL! The 4 Points: #1 Confess any known sin, and put any wrong done to man right again. #2 Put away any doubtful habit. #3 Obey the Spirit promptly. #4 Confess your faith publicly.
Effects of the WELSH REVIVAL 1904-05: Whole communities were radically changed FROM DEPRAVITY TO GLORIOUS GOODNESS. The CRIME RATE dropped, often to nothing. THE POLICE had little more to do than supervise the coming and going of the people to the chapel prayer meetings. THE UNDERGROUND MINES echoed with the sounds of PRAYER and HYMNS, instead of nasty jokes and gossip. People who had fallen out BECAME FRIENDS AGAIN!!!!!!!
The Achan Factor — Because of one man’s disobedience the entire nation of Israel had to deal with the “Achan factor” among them before they could come under the umbrella of Almighty God’s blessings once again!
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?
Can ‘Christians’ use Paul’s “Forgetting the things which are behind…I press on” statement as an excuse to not get right with those they’ve hurt? Paul also said: “I also practice ALWAYS having a conscience void of offense toward God and men.” What if you don’t repent? And what will happen when you do? The Third Great Awakening can start with us!!! We can all be happy — ‘ONE’!
Wes Hall to church leaders: “There’s a cry in your heart saying ‘I am not prepared to walk forward another step in dead works and dead religion”
Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified
(video) The Azusa Street Revival (1906-15): The biggest move of miracles in the history of America — The fire of God’s glory on the roof! “Even the fingernails grew back!” In 1909, Seymour prophesied the next, even greater revival will come in about 100 years! We’re due!!!
Wes Hall [IHOP] on William Seymour’s *1909 prophecy* of the SHEKINAH GLORY RETURNING to the church *in 100 years*: “Let me tell you about the church in the book of Acts. ..the fear of God was on the community, and…they were highly esteemed” | My theory …
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent
My comment on Francis Frangipane’s post: “Francis, do you remember how you prophesied in Wasilla, Alaska about the REVIVAL happening up here to such a great degree that…” | Paul made sure he was right with everyone, but how many pastors can say that today? | “There is might and there is power and there is GLORY, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right…
(video) A taste of JESUS’ AGONY because His people have HURT SO MANY… – Gary Clark Jr: When My Train Pulls In (Live at Farm Aid 2014)
Awakening Meetings End at IHOP. Why?
Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.”
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
If we build it He will come:
“Let Us Be ONE” (A Revival Prophecy)
[photo] Abbott Loop Christian Center (Abbott Loop Community Church) — 1985
All of my Revival posts (latest appear first, 10 posts per page)
From: Revival List email
“WARNING – Violent TURBULENCE AHEAD”
-extract by Gerald Rowlands.
Anyone who has flown even a few air miles is usually aware of
this warning message. “This is your captain speaking. Please take
your seats and fasten your seatbelts – we are flying into turbulence
ahead.” Usually the passengers are already vaguely aware of the
turbulence even before the official announcement is made. Air
currents are beginning to buffet the plane and a general awareness
of change is growing.
I believe that our captain is presently issuing such a warning. Let
him that has ears, hear what the Spirit is saying to the Church.
Every Christian should be made aware that we need to take urgent
appropriate action in the light of the turbulence that we are currently
flying towards. We are rapidly entering the time zone of which it is
said that everything that can be shaken will be shaken.
Hebrews 12:26-27:
‘”Once again I will shake not only the earth but the heavens also.”
This means that the things on earth will be shaken, so that only
eternal things will be left.’ (NLT).
UPDATE 7/21: I was just asked to explain the difference between lust and the natural desire for a mate. Clearly, God has given us a natural attraction for the opposite sex, but God prohibits us from thinking lustful, sexual thoughts about anyone who we’re not married to. If we do, this opens the door for demons to then drive lust, which then becomes an addiction. Constantly thinking about lust is not normal, and is a clear indication that lust demons are now driving the desires, and this includes when sleeping. If we’re lusting in our dreams it’s lust demon driven, despite what secular psychologists claim. We can be FREE 24/7! “Submit to God, resist the Devil and he’ll FLEE!”
How Lust Works
By Jeff Fenske
I saw this testimony from Henry Makow’s site showing how demons and homosexuality came hand in hand: Homosexuality & Demonic Possession. This encouraged me to share….
From my many experiences in dealing with demons, having now been a Christian for 35 years, my educated guess is that if there is homosexuality there are demons probably 100% of the time. And the same goes for heterosexuality outside of the marriage covenant.
These are lust demons.
The bad news is that almost everyone we know have lust demons of one type or another in them, because most don’t make sure they live holy enough to get and stay free. The good news is that once born-again, Holy Spirit indwelt Christians determine to get and stay free the demons have no right to stay and it’s easy to be free: “Submit to God; resist the Devil and he will flee” (James 4 — the overcoming-partysville chapter).
When I say it’s “easy” though, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s easy overall.
It’s easy and even automatic to stay free once we have committed 100% to keep our thoughts pure and not do what we know we shouldn’t. It takes total cold-turkey. If we give the devil a place he (or the demons) will enter, often instantly. And once they’re in, which is I think the condition of most modern Americans Christian or not, then the person is lust-demon driven. Many don’t even know what it even feels like to be free. But once a person is free and then willfully lusts (commits adultery in his/her heart – Mt. 5), then I would think any spiritually aware person would notice the great difference. All of a sudden it’s hard not to lust, for example, whereas before it was easy to not think those thoughts at all.
Sadly, there have been churches that teach that demons can’t be in Christians even though the Bible, the Holy Spirit (Whom Jesus said will lead us into all truth) and experience definitely teach otherwise. The result is truly born-again Christians how to break sin problems. And many ‘Christians,’ unware have hate and anger demons in them, pride demons, etc.. And if they think they can’t be influenced by demons directly the demons have their way because the ‘Christian’ is unaware of their schemes because of bad doctrine.
And it’s often in the heart where the demons hide and do their thing. Jesus said in Matthew 5:
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery;’ 28 but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna. 30 If your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off, and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna.
David said: “Create in me a clean heart, Oh God, and renew a right spirit within me.”
The heart is the seat of the emotions. It’s the deepest source of good or evil.
We’re to love God with all of our heart — the Greatest Commandment.
Jesus said in Matthew 18 we’re to from our heart forgive our brothers, otherwise the tormentors have a right (a place – Eph. 4) to torment us. This is God’s way of encouraging us to learn how to totally forgive and walk in love. “Perfect love casts out fear” (1 John 4). Less than perfect love doesn’t.
1 John 5 says how we are to keep ourselves free from the evil one by not sinning in the ways that give demons a place: “We know that whoever is born of God doesn’t sin, but he who was born of God keeps himself, and the evil one doesn’t touch him.”
Paul said in Galatians 5 that going-to-heaven Christians have crucified their flesh. Whether today’s pastors teach this or not, this is what the Bible teaches, which I explain more fully in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? This fits with 1 John 5.
I’ve shared this VISION on this site before. I could see myself from a few feet away, and there was a spirit over my right shoulder. I could tell that I had been lust free, but when I willfully lusted (in my thinking only) the demon, seemingly with great glee went something like “A hah!” with a big smile, and went right into my body. Apparently, they greatly enjoy driving humans sins, pushing the gas pedal to the metal, if they can.
And that’s how easy it is to be imprisoned by lust demons — the demons that drive lust, because we give them a right when we willfully sin. And seeing a UFO (for us guys — an Unclad Female Object) isn’t sinning. It’s sinning when we willfully keep looking, when we don’t look away, willfully thinking things we know we shouldn’t, giving ourselves over to the dark side in this lust area, actually.
I’ve only felt a homosexual spirit once, but the process is similar. I don’t remember if I was totally lust free at the time (This was at least 20 years ago), but I remember part of this clear as day. Probably not, because otherwise I don’t think I would have felt any kind of lust spirit.
Have you ever been a few feet away from a person of the opposite sex and have felt a sexual attraction, a pulling even though you may have not even really looked at the person at all? I think we’ll only feel these lust spirits if we’re not totally, 100% lust free. For example, I was sitting in a college class more than 20 years ago, not even thinking about the woman sitting next to me, but I felt this lust spirit. I found out later she was an actual prostitute. But my guess is that I probably wouldn’t even have felt the lust spirit(s) if I was totally lust free at the time.
Many people give into these spirits and do things they shouldn’t, instead of recognizing what they are and totally getting and staying free. Most sex is lust, not love driven. We must keep our hearts clean to be free!
Continuing my once-in-a-lifetime homosexual-lust demon experience, I was sitting in a small room with the guys I was working with, and all of a sudden I felt this strong lust spirit. And the only people around me were guys. I didn’t try to figure out which guy it was. I just got out of there and I think prayed in tongues (perhaps the best way to deal directly with the demonic), and I never felt a homosexual lust spirit again.
But if I wasn’t that aware or that dedicated, who knows where that could have led? And many times this happens with children, who really don’t understand at all why they’re feeling like they are.
We need to be really, really non-judgmental and totally accepting of homosexuals. They, perhaps you are in a demonically driven lust trap. This is what happens when people worship the creation instead of worship the Creator. And I think Romans 1 applies to heterosexual lust too. Many reverse-Christians bash homosexuals with Romans 1 when they’re not heterosexual-lust free themselves. Here is God’s view of homosexuals, from my Let Us Be ONE prophesy, part 17 of 33:
The Homosexuals Will Arise
The homosexuals will arise. They have been hurt so badly in their heart. They are not the enemy. They are full of hurt, and are looking for a way out. You can help if you don’t judge. Don’t criticize; show them the way through your smile. They are not worse than you, just unforgiven. They have a long way to go, but are not weird, as some would say. Do not mock. Lift them up. Give them space to watch.
Pray with them when you get a chance, but until then be slow. Their hearts are brittle, hardened by sin that has often been done unto them, not of their own accord. Have grace and Mercy, not judgment, or pain will come to you both, and alienation from the things of God, the life I can give.
It can happen. Love can start with you. It just takes one. Find it and run, run with arms outstretched, praying as you go, praying in tongues a lot. Don’t hold back. This is a precious gift. Use it now; it is for you to be free, to be built up in the might of My Spirit. Pray often, and do not faint. Do not let the world take control. I have overcome the world. You will too, if you walk in My steps, living a life of love.
‘Christians’ have elevated homosexuality way above heterosexual lust sinning, and I don’t see this in the Bible. All willful lusters are in danger of going to hell. See Paul’s who-won’t-inherit-the-kingdom list in Galatians 5, written in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
Guys, stop judging homosexuals. Instead, we need to “show them the way through our smile,” God says.
Heterosexual or homosexual lust freedom is not that hard IF we go cold turkey, 100% “I won’t go there at all, period!”
Lust freedom is only a hair’s breadth away. And we can help each other be free forever.
Lust freedom is a key way for revival to happen, which I believe will be the Third Great Awakening, when we are ONE with each other in Christ. “Then the world will know.”
The bad news is that demons drive lust. Demons are yukky, and who wants to be inhabited by an evil spirit, which I believe most ‘Christians’ are, let alone non-Christians.
The good news is that demons drive lust, because many people think they can never become lust free. They don’t understand that there is a creature driving their lust. Once we realize how lust works it’s easy to be free IF we go cold turkey, 100% “I won’t go there at all, period!”
And pray in tongues, you all. The Devil hates it when we use this gift. But praying in tongues deals with demons. God gives us precisely targeted prayer language to do the job without us having to see specifically the demons in order to drive them out in some other yukky way. Praying in tongues rocks!
You don’t have to pray in tongues. It’s possible to get free without using this gift of the Holy Spirit. But why wouldn’t you when it’s so effective and God tells us to?
“Submit to God (100% ‘I won’t give lust demons a place’); resist the Devil (pray in tongues) and he will flee!”
And you will be free.
And we will be ONE with each other when we crucify the flesh (Gal. 5) so demons cannot have a place (Eph. 4).
Power to the peaceful!
We need to NEVER EVER put condemnation trips on homosexuals. Please! Many homosexuals are a heartbeat away from really rocking in God!
I’m doing my best to show them the way through my smile. Praise God for the Holy Spirit and prophesy that helps show us the way! Not many people so far have read and have been changed by my Let Us Be ONE prophesy, but I have.
We shouldn’t hold a person’s sin-history against anyone, period. We can all break free from these lust demons so homosexuals are no longer homosexuals. Heterosexual lusters will no longer be hetero-lusters. Alcoholics will no longer alcoholics (it’s probably demon driven too).
Let’s be ONE — okay?
Jeff Fenske
To Be Free!
: )
Related:
The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God? — “There is therefore now *no condemnation* to those who are IN CHRIST Jesus, who don’t WALK according to the flesh, but ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT” — Includes my dream of being in danger of going to hell just for lusting while watching TV
2014 Pornography Survey of ‘Christian’ Men: MAJORITY not only lusting, but into porn!!
Bikini Facts: The bikini was introduced by inspiration of Satan. When the bikini was first invented…
[ video ] Jessica Rey: The Evolution of the Swimsuit — Can Modesty Make a Comeback?
[Lust Freedom!] As Cautiously as Folding Our Own Parachute — “We ought to think out each step with the same kind of rationale and determination that a man uses when he folds his own parachute. Small, careful decisions can save his life. 5 minutes of pleasure earned Esau the loss of a lifetime of blessing and the enmity of God. Is it worth it?”
Lust: Another Name For Adultery – Dan Corner
I’ve finally shared much of what I know about and what can be done through the TREMENDOUS and mostly misunderstood and underused gift of tongues. A reader thankfully put me over the edge : ) I need to re-write this someday so it’s not written mostly in a comment. But it’s all there.
Can a Christian Have a Demon? Absolutely! Most Have Many!
A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls)
Let Us Be ONE, Part 13 of 33
A Gift that Will Set Many Free!
There is another day, a day that will happen if you let it.
I want you to be free, free from anxiety. A death warrant is out for your souls. It will get you if you let it. You must pray.
Many die from unknown causes. They are weak from attacks from the Devil who never gives up—curse after curse—toward My people. Many have given in, unable to walk.
Tongues, I’ve given you the gift of tongues from My heart to you. It is a gift that will set many free if you use it regularly. It is for you to walk holy, set free in forgiveness while you pray.
The two work together. One attacks the Devil, while you release those who have hurt you deeply, wounded your soul.
Pray for them. You can focus; you don’t have to pray in general all the time. I will give you the gift of life as you pray.
This is how it works. Believe in your heart you are praying for one another; though, it will come from the Holy Ghost, the words you emit that I give you to speak. Focus on these people, and pray until your tongues cease. I will tell you who to pray for, but this isn’t necessary. You can pray for anyone that way.
Believe in your heart; direct your tongues. I will fill your mouth as you speak and set people free. I will pray perfectly, as you obey, giving your life to others through prayer.
Amazing things will result! Your heart will be glad!
Watch Me do it. Prove My point. Try it now. Focus on someone who needs prayer. Believe in your heart you are praying for them as you speak words from above that fill your mouth. Pray it out, and watch them change, for I will release them from anger and all kinds of oppressions as you pray. You will see it, and it will amaze your intelligence. Many will be set free. Do it now. This is an important point.
And as you pray, forgive, release them from all kinds of cares and bondages. The two work hand in hand. You forgive and I pray through your words that I give you.
This is freedom! Set them free. Do it now; why wait when you can have the chance to move mountains, have an impact on society that many will see and feel. Your heart will be glad. Many will walk holy.
Pray for your elders. Many are not in the ministry to give life. Many are sucking you dry. They need to give up the ghost of unforgiveness and get on the bandwagon of love.
The seal of approval, you all want it. You can have it now. Why wait? You can be in Me as we speak. You can know for sure that you are sons of God, that I am in you and you are in Me. You will feel it. Your heart will be glad, and you will pray.
I will take you to heights unknown. Miracles will take place all around you as you obey. Many will be glad that you took the step of faith to lead. When all looked hopeless, you got up from your seat and prayed.
Pray. Let your heart be glad, and don’t give up. Pray until your tongues stop. This is an amazing gift that has much power to change.
Anyone can pray in tongues. It is a gift for all who obey, all who call on Me for Mercy.
Drink deeply, and let it give you life, freeing you, while you relax and find peace in a home here on earth.
We are together. Let us pray.
I have a category called heart, soul, mind, gut? Notice all of the references to the heart in the above prophecy and in the Bible itself. “The heart is more than a pump.”
What does God say? Women, children and men exposing themselves to TSAs in NAKED BODY SCANNERS!
1942 Minnesota: Bathing beaches prior to the low-cut top epidemic
Amazing Dress: India Arie singing with Carlos Santana on The Tonight Show. This is grace!
All of my Lust Freedom! posts [latest appear first, 10 posts per page]
From: stevequayle.com…
Hell Vision
October 31, 2010
PS
Twenty-eight days ago, the Holy Spirit showed me a vision in my slumber:
My wife and I were in a hotel without measure, it stretched beyond the horizon and was filled with all the desires of one’s heart; the number of rooms were countless.
On several occasions, I left the hotel and my wife followed; however, each time she returned to the room. As I walked through the maze again to the exit, people were flowing into the hotel like a flood, but only a few could find their way out, for the exit became more and more complex to navigate, due to the multitude of distractions – if only they would follow the light!
I noticed my wife had turned around again. When I returned to the room, my wife was laying on the bed and there was a man, a hotel employee, standing in the room. My wife appeared to be in a trance and unclothed herself. I asked her, what are you doing? Upon hearing my voice she clothed herself. I then turned to the man and said what is going on? He said, nothing is going on. He walked into the bathroom and said, it is not what it looks like, as he vainly looked into the mirror. When I looked into his eyes and his into mine, I saw the birth of his fear. He said please don’t kill me, I don’t want to die. I replied, what are you talking about, all I want to know is what is going on?
He ran from the room and I followed him. He kept saying, I don’t want to die. His eyes now showed an insurmountable avalanche of fear, as if his spirit became aware. It then appeared he could not control his body, as if a powerful dark entity took over. He placed the bible into his mouth and as it touched his lips, it burst into flames! The fire engulfed his head, and with his other hand, he placed a pistol into his mouth through the burning bible and pulled the trigger! I saw his soul leave his body and the Holy Spirit instructed me to follow his soul into hell, deep into the earth. The demons told him we’ve been waiting for you. There was wailing and gnashing of teeth, as his skin and muscles and sinews melted from his bones, and fell into a bloody heap, while his eyes beheld the terror, which were the last things to melt! I felt he could see me, though the demons were not aware of my presence, for I was shielded by the Holy Spirit! The demons then turned to each other and said, it is time. As far as my eyes could see in hell, the demons were boarding what appeared to be ancient tunnel boring machines. When the doors closed, they started to bore into the roof of hell. The Holy Spirit instructed me to follow them, they bored through the layers of earth and when the machines broke the surface, I was awakened by the Holy Spirit to pray!
Oh my soul cried out to Jesus! I prayed for God’s people and the lost souls on the outer edges of darkness! I prayed for God’s watchmen and prayer warriors! I prayed for spiritual edification and confirmation. I looked at the clock, it was after 3 am. The next day the Holy Spirit led me to a prayer warrior; she edified that our loved ones are being seduced back to the world. I prayed for God’s will and strength and for further edification. The Holy Spirit told me that the hotel represents the world, and we are in this world, but not of this world, for our true home is in heaven. That our life in this realm of the flesh wars against the soul and our time here is but a vapor. That God’s people are destroyed by the lack of knowledge and how easily we are distracted by the lust of this world. That the man in the vision represents ministers that preach false teachings and doctrines that lead His people astray. That many churches are the gateways to hell, woe unto them!
My brother, you are 1 of 3, the Holy Spirit instructed me on who to witness to and of the timing. God be with you for we stand as free beings in Christ, proclaiming the good news of salvation across all the land, fighting the good fight with the strength of the lion of The tribe of Judah, for there is live saving, soul redeeming POWER in the BLOOD of JESUS – Hallelujah!
Your brother in Christ Jesus,
PS
Related:
Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
How Many Will Be in Heaven? How Many Find the WAY? Only 1 in 40 — 2.5%?!! And that was 30 years ago, before…! This is serious!
Joe Schimmel: The Great Deception—Once Saved, Always Saved
Notice how the revelation wasn’t directly given;
though, this sometimes happens.
Kekule had to interpret the metaphor.
And then he ran with it.
And so should we.
Living in God, prayed up,
we shouldn’t be getting dreams from the dark side.
: )
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NRwd-JJFm4]
Kekule’s Dream
00:58 – 5 years ago
This animation tells the story of German Chemist, August Kekule. His famous dream of the Benzyne ring of carbon molecules advanced chemistry and helped lay the groundwork for many Nobel Prize winning disocveries of the Twentieth Century.
I thought I’d mention that some of my personal words, dreams and etc. are at my personal blog, jefffenske.com, if you’re interested.
I’ve thought about putting them in this site as well (or just in this site), but for now, I’m inclined to post them most often in my personal blog.
I’m open to suggestions. Please feel free to comment. And commenters can be totally anonymous. No email or name is required at all of my sites. If that will help you really speak your mind, please go for it — no problem.
All of my Prophesies & Visions posts at this site are listed here. The Let Us Be ONE prophesy is in the earlier posts.
It seems that there isn’t much time to get our act together.
Let us be ONE,
Jeff : )
source (emphasis mine)
The Joy of the Lord
Important Warning to Christians
Newsletter From: Truth, Light & Life Ministries International
PO Box 70
Mt. Crawford VA 22841 …
Dear Partners and Friends,
Over the years, I have had the privilege of preaching in numerous churches, conventions, minister’s meetings, camp meetings and revival meetings. I have noted that many people were sad and their countenance was fallen. I wondered why they were so downcast. On numerous occasions, I asked them, “Why are you so discouraged? Do you have food and sufficient clothing? Do you have a home to live in? Do you have a bed to sleep in? Then why are you so sad?” Some have responded, ” I really don’t know, I’m just sad.” This has been a puzzle to me for years why people do not rejoice when they are so blessed. Those of you which have heard me preach know that I have often spoken on the importance of joy and rejoicing.
Many have lost their Joy
On Sunday evening, February 2, 2003, the Lord gave me a prophetic message for the church of America. He said that love, joy and peace are the fruit of the Spirit and one cannot operate fluently without the other. He explained that joy is what brings love and peace to their fullness. He said, “Many of My people have lost their joy; therefore, they have lost their love and peace. They try to worship Me, but instead of serving the Lord with gladness, they are trying to serve Me with tears of self pity, fear and anxiety. I have pled with My children for years,” He said, “to rejoice in the Lord. They rejoice for a little while, but are soon back in the valley of despair.” Then He said something that made my heart tremble: “I want you to warn My children that Deuteronomy chapter 28 verses 47 and 48 are about to be fulfilled. If someone does not arise on the scene and appeal to the people that their joy may be restored that they will rejoice over the good things that I have given them, I will have no choice but to turn them over to the enemy as I have promised.”
Deut 28:47-48
“Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things; Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.”
Notice, He said, “because you didn’t rejoice in the Lord for the abundance.” If we cannot rejoice in the Lord for the abundance now when we have abundance, we will lose it.
Saddest Christians in the world!
I heard the Lord say, “There is no nation in the history of the world that has had such an abundance of food (all kinds of vegetables, fruits, meats, etc.) as the American people have available in their grocery stores and can enjoy the year round. Yet, here is where some of the saddest Christians in the world live.” The Lord said, “My wrath is about to be poured out upon My children and I want you to warn them if they can’t rejoice now, I have no choice but to turn them over into the hands of the enemy.”
I thank God for His mercy that He sent this warning. He said, “This will happen very soon unless My children turn back to Me with rejoicing. (When the Lord says soon, it is not always as quickly as we think.) They are sad all week long and then try to come to church and praise Me, but they are not praising Me from the heart. They are trying to work up some kind of an emotional experience which I cannot accept.”
The Lord reminded me that those who do not express their gratitude and praise to Him now will experience hunger and thirst. They will try to quote Bible verses and claim promises that God will meet all their needs, but they do not qualify for those promises to operate in their life because they did not rejoice over the abundance they had received. The Lord doesn’t expect us to just say, “Thank you,” or, “Lord, I praise you.” He expects us to have a lifestyle of praise and thanksgiving flowing from our hearts and not our head or emotions. Paul said he rejoiced even in difficult circumstances, “I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation” (2Corinthians 7:4). The disciples also rejoiced in the midst of persecution, “And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name” (Acts 5:41). That’s the kind of lifestyle God is looking for. We need to repent of our lack of gratitude and turn to the lord with a heart full of joy and gladness.
Pastor Daniel D. Rodes
Related:
Daniel Rodes Prophecy 2/28/09: What Will Happen to Our Little Ones?
Dear friends,
I had a dream, this morning, in which I was speaking to apparently a fairly well known rock musician who was severely ill and expected to die. I should have grabbed the recorder right away. I did, but I waited a number of minutes (wanting so much just to go back to sleep but knowing I shouldn’t), too long to be able to retain all of the details. But I think I remember the main points.
I haven’t posted the previous “getting right with another” dream, so perhaps I’ll mention those first. In one, I saw this former church leader while he was getting food in what seemed like a wedding reception or something similar. I said right to him: “when are you going to get right with the people you’ve hurt?”
The second dream was of the same man. We were sitting across from each other at a small table in a fairly open room. My right hand was holding his right hand, earnestly, as I asked: “when are you going to get right with the people that you’ve hurt?”
In the dream this morning, I was in the bleacher area of an indoor arena which holds large public events. I was introduced to two people, one of whom was this apparently fairly famous rock musician; though, I didn’t recognize him.
We were laughing about something, and then he and I stood, looking at each other. I said, “you look happy. You look like a real Christian.” And then I said, “if I were you, I’d get right with everybody I’ve hurt.” He said, “Wow,” like this was something he needed to hear.
And that’s it. It’s crucial that we have reconciled with everyone we can. We need to be right with each other so we can be right with God in order to have faith to enter heaven when we see Jesus face to face — so our consciences won’t condemn us. So we can smile BIG!
1 John 2:28 Now, little children, remain in him, that when he appears, we may have boldness, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
1 John 4:16 We know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and he who remains in love remains in God, and God remains in him. 17 In this[,] love has been made perfect among us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, even so are we in this world.
And when we all live this way: ONE can happen — Jesus’ prayer for us in John 17 — that we would be ONE with each other in Christ. Then the world will know.
And when we confess our sins to one another and then ask for prayer from the right-with-God-and-people elders, then we’ll be healed physically too.
James 5: 14 Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the assembly, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord, 15 and the prayer of faith will heal him who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. If he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Confess your offenses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed.
The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective.
So by getting right with those this musician has hurt, he’s making his calling and election sure, and he could get physically healed so he wouldn’t prematurely die.
When we’re all right with one another, then the prayers can be offered in faith. Then we’re righteous people.
God bless!
Jeff : )
Related:
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”
Charisma Editor: An Asbury-like Spiritual Awakening is the “Only Thing That Will Save Us”
“The Perfect Storm” by John Paul Jackson. What to expect in the next 10 years. To overcome, we must be right with each other: “You must have clean hands and not harmed others. And if you have, you must repent so that you can be clean” | My experience at Trinity
Asbury Revival, 1970: “Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?”
Exalted *Not* Above Each Other—But Above Our Sin—Where We Can Be FREE!
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7glTptnZQ18]Time Is Running Out – Seth Yates Prophetic Song IHOP Prayer Room
Seth Yates singing a prophetic song with Matt Gilman’s worship team at the International House of Prayer.
To those men and women who think their retirement years will be lived out in certainty and passive enjoyment, I will tell you what lies ahead – uncertainty, worry, fear and dread with multiplied anxiety as your money utterly fails. Your protection and provision will be provided for you by taking a stand for righteousness and taking up the cause of the hopeless and the helpless and looking to me in faith to provide for all your needs through Heavens bounty. …
Those who claim to know me and assume to be a member of my flock – cease your ridicule of my warnings and mocking my prophets and my watchmen as I will deal with you harshly in order to keep you from the second death and eternal damnation. The fearful and the cowardly along with the scoffers and mockers unless they repent go into the lake of fire….
From: stevequayle.com
Prophecy Given to Stephen Quayle at 2:45 AM, November 1, 2008
November 4, 2008
For as I live saith the Lord – My eyes are upon the righteous who speak out against the evil that permeates your land. My destroying angels are soon to be released against the false shepherds and pastors, wolves in my church who have been silent against the slaughter of the infants in the womb, and the sodomy that permeates the land. They have fed themselves and lived extravagantly at the expense of my sheep neither have they bound up the broken hearted nor healed the sick. They have abandoned the widows and orphans and turned a willing blind eye to the downtrodden and the homeless.
As my servant Peter stated in my Holy Word — judgement begins at the house of God, Know– this day– that the decree has gone forth from my lips to let the judgement of the false shepherds and prophets begin.
My children whom I have redeemed, you can no longer stay silent and expect to be delivered and protected from the evil one, “For who is on the Lords side let him come to me” “Let the redeemed of the Lord say so”!
The false shepherds, pastors and wolves who turn a blind eye to the reality of my judgement upon the lands and who have continually rejected my signs and warnings will soon see their temples of mammon totally destroyed.
To those men and women who think their retirement years will be lived out in certainty and passive enjoyment, I will tell you what lies ahead – uncertainty, worry, fear and dread with multiplied anxiety as your money utterly fails. Your protection and provision will be provided for you by taking a stand for righteousness and taking up the cause of the hopeless and the helpless and looking to me in faith to provide for all your needs through Heavens bounty.
The enemy of men’s souls – the destroyer has taken your eyes off me and my promises through the seducing spirits of self gratification, apathy, indifference and fear! All of the enemies tactics and manifestations through their mouthpieces are designed to lead you to both physical and eternal destruction. The fear of death and the ridicule of demons has silenced too many of my children for too long. But as I warn you, I urge you to call out to me for the deliverance of the “fear of man” and the “fear of death”.
Those who claim to know me and assume to be a member of my flock – cease your ridicule of my warnings and mocking my prophets and my watchmen as I will deal with you harshly in order to keep you from the second death and eternal damnation. The fearful and the cowardly along with the scoffers and mockers unless they repent go into the lake of fire along with all those who think that He who created the sight and hearing of mankind does not see the actions and excuses and hear the hearts and thoughts of all men.
For as I have declared– that the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward me!
I got this word from God for a church founder in Anchorage, 20 years ago, while getting ready to discuss with the then, head pastor what I had recently been shown about why God couldn’t move in our church. It says a lot about what needs to happen for real Christianity and full revival to occur.
And this is also a salvation issue:
This is the prophecy that inspired my license plate:
Aug, 9,1990
“Our eyes are full of sawdust. We can’t see clearly to see the kingdom. There is might and there is power and there is glory, but it is being withheld until these relationships are made right, until we love our brother enough to feel his hurt deeply and say kind words of salve that heal their souls.
[D–––] can do this. This is vital. They are necessary. For he must do this for healing to occur. He is a man of integrity in many ways.
Fear must decrease. Love must increase. He will fight and he will win the battle over the stronghold of fear and unforgiveness, sayeth the Lord.”
Rick Joyner: “REPENTANCE includes RESTITUTION for the wrongs that have caused injury to others”
The Didache (70-100 AD): Reconciliation was required to attend early church meetings! “How upside-down the ‘church’ is today.”
The R-Word: ‘Reconciliation’ is Required to Worship in Spirit and in Truth — Why is this key to revival a taboo subject?
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible”
Leaders Who Have Hurt People But Refuse to Repent
My Dream of ‘ONE’ Happening at Abbott Loop CC!
Awakening Meetings End at IHOP. Why?
Benny Hester: “When God Ran” — God will RUN when we come back to Him!
“Let Us Be ONE” (A Revival Prophecy)
[photo] Abbott Loop Christian Center (Abbott Loop Community Church) — 198
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from Ryan’s prophecy following a super-hot, IHOP worship time (at ~25:00 – 45:00 into the set) 3/6/09
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Be Magnified!
Be exalted in our praises
Be enthroned upon our love, Lord
Be magnified!
Do I miss direct-to-God, “YOU are worthy,” hot, hot, hot worship!!! I played these 20 minutes over and over. Most ‘worship’ is just fluff in comparison. What a breath of fresh air!
Ryan Kondo fantastically led, the drummer was kicking it. This isn’t whimp worship. And I can’t say that I’m crazy about the lead guitarist’s tone: harsh, clangy yet in-your-face sassy, but this demonstratees that heart is more important than tone. “Make a joyful noise” illustrated?
After the prayers, Ryon prophecied this:
“Do not forget the hour that you’re living in. Business as usual will not do anymore. …
Can you feel the urgency of the hour that you are living in? This is the final generation. …
Business as usual will not do anymore. The status quo will not do anymore. I’m setting you apart: holy unto the Lord.
Holy unto the Lord. …
The hour is late, the need is great, will you answer My call?
The hour is late, the need is great, would you answer My call?“
You could still catch this in the next few days, navigating this way and following their schedule. He’s wearing a green t-shirt, a stocking cap, and an acoustic guitar.
We join with the angels with the chorus of heaven:
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
You are holy, holy, holy
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
You are holy, holy, holy
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
You are holy, holy, holy
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
You are holy, holy, holy
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
You are holy, holy, holy
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
You are holy, holy, holy
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
You are holy, holy, holy
All cry holy
All cry holy
All cry holy
All cry holy
Be exalted in our praises
Be enthroned upon our love, Lord
You are holy, holy, holy
You are mighty, mighty, mighty
Be magnified!
•
Jesus:
“Love the Lord, your God
with all of your
heart, soul, mind and strength!“
Jeff Fenske : )
Alaska
Related:
[Screenshots] Ryan Kondo MAXIMUM Worship!
(screenshots from this session)
“Woe to those who prophesy peace and safety.”
– the last words of a prophecy by
Jon Rizzo in the IHOP Prayer Room, 2/24
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLZpsepaVcM]Mike Bickle’s open vision about America
Watch the entire message here:
http://video.google.com/vid…
From the Onething 08 conference 12/28/08
I do not receive many dreams from the Lord except for one i remember to this day. I will also share a dream my wife had.
My dream is as follows.
I boarded a jet to the U.S.A.. Around me were many people whom i know and others i do not. Whilst praying in the plane, it began to spin out of control. Instead of staying put, people began to try to escape and were being flung from side to side – I meanwhile sat calmly in my seat.
I looked from the window and could see green grass. It was actually a football field. I sat in my chair watching the ground spin toward me saying “In the name of Jesus i shall live and not die.” Then there were flames everywhere, burning bodies and screams of pain. As the smoke and flames cleared, i saw the wreckage i was sitting amongst, the bodies of others everywhere. Yet, all i could say was ”In the name of Jesus i shall not die but live.” I calmy unbuckled my seatbelt and walked away. At this point i awoke, sweat dripping from me, the bed soaked with sweat.
So thats it, If you have any insight please let me know.
My wife’s dream is as follows.
We were being chased by people with swords, etc., a mob. A man appeared dressed in white, white hair and beard, whose language my wife could not understand. He kept speaking and pointing to a building behind him where many calm people seemed to be standing, and then he ushered us in. We were warmly received, and the mob could not harm us. As we entered the building, shining words formed around the upper section of it in a language she could not understand. Then the white haired man entered with us. At this point my wife awoke.
My wifes other dream is as follows.
A man was trying to keep her in the house ( who he was she does not know ). She escaped the house to find earthquakes and trouble everywhere. She was then with us ( the family ). We were then in a car driving out of the city. All of a sudden we were not in the car but on a large mountain with a few others scattered here and there looking down upon the earth. Everywhere was destruction and plagues, people in pain, the earth looking as if it were being torn apart.
End of dream
Regards
Adrian
From: northwestprophetic.com
Original is a pdf at fotb.com — www.fotb.com/Publisher/File.aspx?ID=1000011128
Emphasis mine
Mike Bickle: Prophetic Dream: Victorious Church in the End-Times (Rev. 12:7-12)
I. PROPHETIC DREAM ON FEB. 13, 2009
A. I was speaking at a conference in a baseball park inside a large fair ground. About 40,000 people were present. Many leaders and their people (from many “charismatic” streams) were present. I saw a certain leader who was representative of other leaders in the Body of Christ who seek to walk in God’s power and who walk with an excellent spirit. We were enjoying warm fellowship together.
B. I preached on prayer, God’s power and end-time judgment. I spoke at two afternoon sessions. In the break between the sessions, some were debating on what I was preaching. Some IHOP-KC people debated each other and some were speaking to believers from different ministry streams. They were debating in a friendly way about God’s power and His end-time judgment. There was no hostility, but only sincere dialogue with humility and love. It was enjoyable and intellectually stimulating but none of the different points of view stirred up real faith and revelation.
C. Immediately, as I finished the second session at 5 PM, I saw a token of a few of the events that John prophesied about in Rev. 12:7-9 when war breaks out in heaven between Satan and Michael the archangel. The result is that Satan will be cast to the earth at the beginning of the Tribulation.
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan…he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him… (Rev. 12:7-9)
D. I did not see Satan, but only demonic principalities being cast to the earth. They looked like large snakes (over 100 yards long and 50 feet thick). Each had a large head that looked like a dragon. Many of them were coming from the sky down to the earth.
E. Every one at the conference was filled with panic. Most were terrified. No one, including me, had understanding or faith that was mature enough to respond in the power or confidence that I had just preached on. I ran as I felt the terror of the event. The leaders and their people felt terror. All wanted to quickly get out of there. Most were in confusion, including the IHOP-KC people.
F. These snake-like demonic principalities and demonic hosts with them were filled with rage against the people. They were angry and even humiliated about being confined to the earth. Satan’s rage is related to his short amount of time before going to prison (Rev. 20:1-3).
12 Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath (fury), because he knows that he has a short time…17 The dragon was enraged… he went to make war with the rest…who have the testimony of Jesus… (Rev. 12:12, 17)
G. Soot or wet, muddy, thick ash was raining down from the sky. It darkened the sky as it fell on the people who were running. I ran out of the vast fair grounds to the park offices (at the entrance). Wet ash was all over me as I ran. Many did not get out. They were bitten by the large snakes.
H. There were evil policeman at the entrance. They told me, “You have to go back into the fair grounds or we will put you in jail.” They were calloused about the danger I would face by going back into the fair grounds. I then understood they were in the Antichrist’s system. I was in a dilemma. I thought, “I just escaped from the most intense danger imaginable and now I have to go back in”. There will be no natural way out of this crisis except by the power of the Spirit.
I. When standing by the police I thought, “I wish IHOP would have taken the events in Rev. 12 more seriously and therefore, prepared more urgently in the early days when we had time. I said to myself, “the debate about power is much bigger than the power we actually walk in”. I woke up with urgency that the IHOP leadership needs greater zeal to walk in the things of the Spirit.
J. After I woke up, I was clear that fear and confusion will NOT be the condition of the entire Body of Christ when the events of Rev. 12:7 literally occur. Many will have understanding and be in a place of mature faith. The Lord was showing me what it would be like if these events happened today with the Church in its current condition (in being unprepared in understanding and faith).
K. The message of the dream was that IHOP needed to be more urgent in going deep in our walk with Jesus, in growing in faith to operate more in the Holy Spirit right now, and to eat the scroll in order to have much more understanding now and for that specific hour.
20 The anger of the LORD will not turn back until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart. In the latter days you will understand it perfectly. (Jer. 23:20)
L. I felt strongly that IHOP and other streams in the Body have “empty” arguments about power and insight into the end-time drama. Most arguments, in either direction, do not actually prepare people to go deeper in Jesus, His Word and Spirit. They are not helpful, thus they are empty.
M. IHOP is simply too immature to give time to theoretical debates. In this dream, the Lord was warning me to set my face toward Him and His Word and to refuse the temptation to invest time in seeking to look wise to others. What is coming is so much more intense than we imagine. Those with the most insight do not understand the intensity of the events in Rev. 12:7-12.
N. The point of the dream: I and the IHOP leadership are not mature enough in our understanding to entertain debates and casual arguments that will arise much more in the Church in the future.
O. The “now” word of God must be confirmed with power. The only way to be culturally relevant in society is to move in power to confirm the Word. Without this, many in the Church are looking for ministries with trendy language and clothes, interesting technology, or to talk about current affairs to identify together. Many are trapped in an abyss of entertainment.
P. We will only penetrate that bubble by power and the real fear of the Lord. People will not get free from the vice of our pop culture without it. People must walk away from their gatherings knowing that He is involved in their lives in power. We must experience manifestation of His majesty that makes us tremble and His kindness that moves us to repentance and servanthood.
B. I preached on prayer, God’s power and end-time judgment. I spoke at two afternoon sessions. In the break between the sessions, some were debating on what I was preaching. Some IHOP-KC people debated each other and some were speaking to believers from different ministry streams. They were debating in a friendly way about God’s power and His end-time judgment. There was no hostility, but only sincere dialogue with humility and love. It was enjoyable and intellectually stimulating but none of the different points of view stirred up real faith and revelation.
C. Immediately, as I finished the second session at 5 PM, I saw a token of a few of the events that John prophesied about in Rev. 12:7-9 when war breaks out in heaven between Satan and Michael the archangel. The result is that Satan will be cast to the earth at the beginning of the Tribulation.
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan…he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him… (Rev. 12:7-9)
D. I did not see Satan, but only demonic principalities being cast to the earth. They looked like large snakes (over 100 yards long and 50 feet thick). Each had a large head that looked like a dragon. Many of them were coming from the sky down to the earth.
E. Every one at the conference was filled with panic. Most were terrified. No one, including me, had understanding or faith that was mature enough to respond in the power or confidence that I had just preached on. I ran as I felt the terror of the event. The leaders and their people felt terror. All wanted to quickly get out of there. Most were in confusion, including the IHOP-KC people.
F. These snake-like demonic principalities and demonic hosts with them were filled with rage against the people. They were angry and even humiliated about being confined to the earth. Satan’s rage is related to his short amount of time before going to prison (Rev. 20:1-3).
12 Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath (fury), because he knows that he has a short time…17 The dragon was enraged… he went to make war with the rest…who have the testimony of Jesus… (Rev. 12:12, 17)
G. Soot or wet, muddy, thick ash was raining down from the sky. It darkened the sky as it fell on the people who were running. I ran out of the vast fair grounds to the park offices (at the entrance). Wet ash was all over me as I ran. Many did not get out. They were bitten by the large snakes.
H. There were evil policeman at the entrance. They told me, “You have to go back into the fair grounds or we will put you in jail.” They were calloused about the danger I would face by going back into the fair grounds. I then understood they were in the Antichrist’s system. I was in a dilemma. I thought, “I just escaped from the most intense danger imaginable and now I have to go back in”. There will be no natural way out of this crisis except by the power of the Spirit.
I. When standing by the police I thought, “I wish IHOP would have taken the events in Rev. 12 more seriously and therefore, prepared more urgently in the early days when we had time. I said to myself, “the debate about power is much bigger than the power we actually walk in”. I woke up with urgency that the IHOP leadership needs greater zeal to walk in the things of the Spirit.
J. After I woke up, I was clear that fear and confusion will NOT be the condition of the entire Body of Christ when the events of Rev. 12:7 literally occur. Many will have understanding and be in a place of mature faith. The Lord was showing me what it would be like if these events happened today with the Church in its current condition (in being unprepared in understanding and faith).
K. The message of the dream was that IHOP needed to be more urgent in going deep in our walk with Jesus, in growing in faith to operate more in the Holy Spirit right now, and to eat the scroll in order to have much more understanding now and for that specific hour.
20 The anger of the LORD will not turn back until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart. In the latter days you will understand it perfectly. (Jer. 23:20)
L. I felt strongly that IHOP and other streams in the Body have “empty” arguments about power and insight into the end-time drama. Most arguments, in either direction, do not actually prepare people to go deeper in Jesus, His Word and Spirit. They are not helpful, thus they are empty.
M. IHOP is simply too immature to give time to theoretical debates. In this dream, the Lord was warning me to set my face toward Him and His Word and to refuse the temptation to invest time in seeking to look wise to others. What is coming is so much more intense than we imagine. Those with the most insight do not understand the intensity of the events in Rev. 12:7-12.
N. The point of the dream: I and the IHOP leadership are not mature enough in our understanding to entertain debates and casual arguments that will arise much more in the Church in the future.
O. The “now” word of God must be confirmed with power. The only way to be culturally relevant in society is to move in power to confirm the Word. Without this, many in the Church are looking for ministries with trendy language and clothes, interesting technology, or to talk about current affairs to identify together. Many are trapped in an abyss of entertainment.
P. We will only penetrate that bubble by power and the real fear of the Lord. People will not get free from the vice of our pop culture without it. People must walk away from their gatherings knowing that He is involved in their lives in power. We must experience manifestation of His majesty that makes us tremble and His kindness that moves us to repentance and servanthood.
II. A LITERAL WAR WILL BREAK OUT IN HEAVEN IN THE END TIMES
A. Some teach that the war in heaven described in Rev. 12:7 occurred at the cross and that Satan is now confined to the earth. Satan’s host operate in the heavenly places in this age.
12 We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities…against the rulers of the darkness…against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Eph. 6:12)
B. Christ defeated Satan at the cross. However, the full scope of His victory has not yet been fully manifested on earth. At Christ’s ascension, Jesus was seated at God’s right hand, far above all authority (Eph. 1:20-22). Jesus disarmed the demonic powers and made a public spectacle of them (Col. 2:15). The “already and not yet” paradox of the Kingdom is now operating.
C. The windows of the heaven will be opened and demonic principalities will be punished. Demonic spirits and evil kings are also put in prison like Satan as prophesied by Isaiah.
18 The windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth are shaken. 19 The earth is violently broken…the earth is shaken exceedingly…20 Its transgression shall be heavy upon it…21 In that day that the LORD will punish on high the host of exalted ones (demonic principalities), and on the earth the kings of the earth. 22 They (demons and kings) will be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit (bottomless pit), and will be shut up in the prison (Rev. 20:1-3); after many days (1,000 years) they will be punished (Lake of Fire)…the LORD of hosts will reign on Mount Zion (Millennium)… (Isa. 24:18-23)
D. One of the most unique dynamics in the Tribulation is that Satan and all his demons will be cast to the earth (Rev. 12:9) and he will give his throne to the Antichrist (Rev. 13:2). Hundreds of millions of demons now in the bottomless pit will be released (Rev. 9:3, 16). Billions will be engaged in Satan worship. There will be more demonized people on earth than at any time in history.
2 The Dragon (Satan) gave him (Antichrist) his power, his throne … (Rev. 13:2)
21 There will be Great Tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world…22 Unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved… (Mt. 24:21-22)
E. The saints will overcome Satan in the Tribulation by the blood of Jesus, our testimony and commitment to Jesus even unto death.
10 I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren…has been cast down. 11 They overcame him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. (Rev. 12:10-11)
F. The Praying Church will overcome Satan and the Antichrist (Rev. 12:11; 15:2; 2:7, 11, 17, 26; 3:5, 12, 21; 21:7). The miracles of Exodus and Acts will be combined and multiplied on a global level. Fear need NOT dominate our spirit and extinguish our faith. We need not fear the Tribulation as powerless victims seeking to escape it.
12 The works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do… (Jn. 14:12)
G. End-time believers will engage in the prayer of faith to bind and loose according to God’s will. This passage is fulfilled on earth in the Tribulation with a victorious Church operating in power.
18 On this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. (Mt. 16:18-19)
H. The Antichrist will be the greatest oppressor the world has ever seen. Isa. 42 is one of the main Second Coming passages. It emphasizes justice. People do not rejoice in judgment until an oppressor is in power. Jesus brings justice to the earth in context to the Antichrist’s oppression.
I. Jesus will only confront the oppressor to the measure that prayers of the saints ascend in faith.
4 The prayers of the saints, ascended before God…5 Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth… (Rev. 8:4-5)
7 Shall God not avenge (bring justice) His own elect who cry out day and night to Him…8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily (in the Tribulation). (Lk. 18:7-8)
J. The most dramatic events in world history will occur in context to the greatest prayer movement that contends against the greatest oppression to see the greatest justice movement fulfilled across the whole earth. What is released in fullness then is released in part now.
12 We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities…against the rulers of the darkness…against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Eph. 6:12)
B. Christ defeated Satan at the cross. However, the full scope of His victory has not yet been fully manifested on earth. At Christ’s ascension, Jesus was seated at God’s right hand, far above all authority (Eph. 1:20-22). Jesus disarmed the demonic powers and made a public spectacle of them (Col. 2:15). The “already and not yet” paradox of the Kingdom is now operating.
C. The windows of the heaven will be opened and demonic principalities will be punished. Demonic spirits and evil kings are also put in prison like Satan as prophesied by Isaiah.
18 The windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth are shaken. 19 The earth is violently broken…the earth is shaken exceedingly…20 Its transgression shall be heavy upon it…21 In that day that the LORD will punish on high the host of exalted ones (demonic principalities), and on the earth the kings of the earth. 22 They (demons and kings) will be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit (bottomless pit), and will be shut up in the prison (Rev. 20:1-3); after many days (1,000 years) they will be punished (Lake of Fire)…the LORD of hosts will reign on Mount Zion (Millennium)… (Isa. 24:18-23)
D. One of the most unique dynamics in the Tribulation is that Satan and all his demons will be cast to the earth (Rev. 12:9) and he will give his throne to the Antichrist (Rev. 13:2). Hundreds of millions of demons now in the bottomless pit will be released (Rev. 9:3, 16). Billions will be engaged in Satan worship. There will be more demonized people on earth than at any time in history.
2 The Dragon (Satan) gave him (Antichrist) his power, his throne … (Rev. 13:2)
21 There will be Great Tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world…22 Unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved… (Mt. 24:21-22)
E. The saints will overcome Satan in the Tribulation by the blood of Jesus, our testimony and commitment to Jesus even unto death.
10 I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren…has been cast down. 11 They overcame him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. (Rev. 12:10-11)
F. The Praying Church will overcome Satan and the Antichrist (Rev. 12:11; 15:2; 2:7, 11, 17, 26; 3:5, 12, 21; 21:7). The miracles of Exodus and Acts will be combined and multiplied on a global level. Fear need NOT dominate our spirit and extinguish our faith. We need not fear the Tribulation as powerless victims seeking to escape it.
12 The works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do… (Jn. 14:12)
G. End-time believers will engage in the prayer of faith to bind and loose according to God’s will. This passage is fulfilled on earth in the Tribulation with a victorious Church operating in power.
18 On this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. (Mt. 16:18-19)
H. The Antichrist will be the greatest oppressor the world has ever seen. Isa. 42 is one of the main Second Coming passages. It emphasizes justice. People do not rejoice in judgment until an oppressor is in power. Jesus brings justice to the earth in context to the Antichrist’s oppression.
I. Jesus will only confront the oppressor to the measure that prayers of the saints ascend in faith.
4 The prayers of the saints, ascended before God…5 Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth… (Rev. 8:4-5)
7 Shall God not avenge (bring justice) His own elect who cry out day and night to Him…8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily (in the Tribulation). (Lk. 18:7-8)
J. The most dramatic events in world history will occur in context to the greatest prayer movement that contends against the greatest oppression to see the greatest justice movement fulfilled across the whole earth. What is released in fullness then is released in part now.
III. JESUS WILL SUPERNATURALLY HELP THE CHURCH COME TO VICTORY (REV. 14)
A. The message of Rev. 14 is that Jesus will supernaturally anoint the Church to walk in victory.
B. In Rev. 14:1-5, Jesus will stand on Mount Zion in Jerusalem with 144,000 prophetic singers. Rev. 14:6-13 reveals four prophetic promises and proclamations that the Spirit will release conviction on and will confirm with signs and wonders to strengthen His people.
1. In Rev. 14:6-7, we will receive angelic assistance and great power that we may succeed in preaching the Gospel to all nations in the presence of hostility (Mt. 24:14; Rev. 7:9).
2. In Rev. 14:8, the anointed proclamation of the defeat of the Harlot Babylon stirs our faith.
3. In Rev. 14:9-11, the anointed proclamation of the certainty of eternal judgment coming on all who worship the Antichrist will embolden the saints to resist even unto death.
4. In Rev. 14:12-13, the anointed proclamation of the certainty of receiving eternal rewards for being faithful will strengthen the Church.
5. In Rev. 14:14-20, we see the two different end-time harvests to be released by prayer. The harvest of souls is seen in Rev. 14:14-16 and the harvest of sin in Rev. 14:17-20. These show the results of prayers that release power for salvation and the removal of evil.
Ephesians 4:
10 He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things. 11 He gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, shepherds and teachers; 12 for the perfecting of the saints, to the work of serving, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we may no longer be children, tossed back and forth and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in craftiness, after the wiles of error; 15 but speaking truth in love, we may grow up in all things into him, who is the head, Christ; 16 from whom all the body, being fitted and knit together through that which every joint supplies, according to the working in measure of each individual part, makes the body increase to the building up of itself in love.
From: Revival School
PROPHETIC PREACHING
-by A.W. Tozer.
If Christianity is to receive a rejuvenation, it must be by other means than any now being used. If the Church in the second half of this century is to recover from the injuries she suffered in the first half, there must appear a new type of preacher. The proper, ruler-of-the- synagogue type will never do. Neither will the priestly type of man who carries out his duties, takes his pay and asks no questions, nor the smooth-talking pastoral type who knows how to make the Christian religion acceptable to everyone. All these have been tried and found wanting.
Another kind of religious leader must arise among us. He must be of the old prophet type, a man who has seen visions of God and has heard a voice from the Throne. When he comes (and I pray God there will be not one but many), he will stand in flat contradiction to everything our smirking, smooth civilization holds dear. He will contradict, denounce and protest in the name of God and will earn the hatred and opposition of a large segment of Christendom. Such a man is likely to be lean, rugged, blunt-spoken and a little bit angry with the world. He will love Christ and the souls of men to the point of willingness to die for the glory of the One and the salvation of the other. But he will fear nothing that breathes with mortal breath.
This is only to say that we need to have the gifts of the Spirit restored again to the Church. And it is my belief that the one gift we need most now is the gift of prophecy.
“Of the sons of Issachar who had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do, their chiefs were two hundred” -1 Chr 12:32. A prophet is one who knows his times and what God is trying to say to the people of his times….
Today we need prophetic preachers; not preachers of prophecy merely, but preachers with a gift of prophecy. The word of wisdom is missing. We need the gift of discernment again in our pulpits. It is not ability to predict that we need, but the anointed eye, the power of spiritual penetration and interpretation, the ability to appraise the religious scene as viewed from God’s position, and to tell us what is actually going on….
Where is the man who can see through the ticker tape and confetti to discover which way the parade is headed, why it started in the first place and, particularly, who is riding up front in the seat of honor?…
What is needed desperately today is prophetic insight. Scholars can interpret the past; it takes prophets to interpret the present. Learning will enable a man to pass judgment on our yesterdays, but it requires a gift of clear seeing to pass sentence on our own day….
“Lord, I pray for that gift of prophetic insight. Move me beyond the knowledge You’ve enabled me to gain through education, reading, and study. I pray that I might lead as one ‘who has seen visions of God and has heard a voice from the throne.’ Amen.”
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I know of John Paul Jackson from the Vineyard movement in the late ’80s and early ’90s. I experienced some of it firsthand during the first time I attended Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, an evangelical seminary in Chicago, and where I attended the Evanston Vineyard as well as a truly amazing Vineyard conference. Wow!
Unfortunately, this seemed to greatly anger some key theology and church history professors at the seminary, for many of us students could hardly talk about anything else and it flew in the face of what they were teaching (many of them believed and/or taught that the gifts of the Spirit had seceded, and they never seemed to talk about being Spirit-led, apparently reading Romans 8 (and many Bible and church history texts) through Baptist, etc. glasses).
Wayne Grudem was a noteworthy exception, who was actually part of the Vineyard movement. Thank you, Wayne!!! I remember him praying for me at the conference. And I think he paid a big price for standing up for what is right.
Seminary was one of the meanest places I’ve ever attended. Hate and anger was off the charts; though, the old guard tried to hide it. There is a reason why John and Chris Wimber died soon afterward. See my James-3-cursing posts under the ‘Christians’ Cursing People category. It was hard enough for me, and I was just a student. It was fierce!
This is one of the main reasons I haven’t yet responded to the Joe Schimmel post comments, as I had planned to. Most of the professors were Calvinists, and they mostly believed that God basically chooses who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. And they were of course among the chosen-for-heaven group. And the result of that doctrine, in my opinion made walking the campus sidewalks one of the most uncomfortable experiences in my life, especially when I attended the second time, after the Vineyard fire went out, and many of the professors and students knew where I stood.
The main leader of the movement, John Wimber, was also a professing Calvinist, and yet he desired to be Spirit-led, as was Wayne Grudem. So the belief in Calvinism doesn’t necessarily cause one to disbelieve in the Holy Spirit’s tangible, active functioning in our lives.
But it may be Calvinism that was in part the reason why the Vineyard movement basically ceased. Holiness died as a major theme, and what I call partysville set in. And this seemed to happen concurrent with John Wimber teaching tithing at Anaheim as the $giving$ standard. The old covenant law replaced being led by the Holy Spirit for giving. They had just built a new facility and needed to pay the huge loan.
I visited the new facility in Anaheim Vineyard (the mother ship) shortly after John Wimber taught what apparently was his first tithing-is-the-standard message. I saw it listed a few months back in the cassette tape message list. It was as if the Holy Spirit had left, compared to the presence of God that could be tangibly felt during my previous visit in the warehouse facility. And the Evanston Vineyard appeared to die also during this same period. Sad 🙁
And the music died too. They kept selling worship CDs for years thereafter, but the life was gone. And then Chris Wimber (head of music production) and his father, John suddenly died. That was a sad day for me.
John Wimber actually taught DWJD (Do What Jesus Did), and to a certain extent, many succeeded. Many also learned how to hear God’s voice; though, speaking in tongues was downplayed, which I believe is one of the greatest tools to battle the devil, including the James-3 curses ‘prayed’ our way by the modern-day Pharisees (basically). [See: A Gift that Will Set Many Free! (A Death Warrant is Out for Your Souls). It’s time to listen to what the Holy Spirit is saying. He wants us to hear His voice, follow and be free]
I believe John and Chris were James-3 cursed to death. I saw and felt the hate and anger firsthand. I had to pray a lot just to make it myself, and I was just a student [During the second time I attended seminary, after the Vineyard movement had died and the campus was back to ‘normal,’ I had a dream in which I was told I wouldn’t make it if I didn’t pray 1 hour a day. So I took long prayer walks along the Des Plaines River]. Had there been more people praying in tongues, perhaps John and Chris would still be with us today to experience the move of God that John Paul Jackson and many others believe is soon to come.
[By the way, I should add that I also spent some time at Fuller Theological Seminary trying to more fully understand how John Wimber’s signs and wonders class affected the campus. There was a much lighter, less oppressive and more joyous feel there.]
“Without holiness, no one will see God,” but with holiness we will! John Paul Jackson here talks about how we must be right with everyone in order to participate in this coming revival, saying: “you must have clean hands and not [have] harmed others. And if you have, you must repent so that you can be clean.”
This coming move will be awesome, and a combination of increased suffering and sound doctrine (finally) will I believe allow this coming move one that will never stop. Calvinism and tithing were factors that I believe caused the Vineyard revival cistern to no longer hold water. Sound doctrine, on the other hand, will create the groundwork in which God will move among us forevermore — which is why I spend so much effort trying to bring doctrinal balance into what is currently taught in Evangelicaldom today. Doctrine is key, and Jesus’ Greatest Two Commandments should be our main focus, with the Greatest Commandment greatest, but He also requires us to be right with all people, including the Iraqis, we slaughtered, by the way.
Most ‘Christian’ leaders still aren’t talking about this, but there should be repentance for supporting President Bush’s reverse-Christian policies. I believe this is one of the things that is keeping the move of God from happening. John Paul Jackson says that we must have clean hands in this coming move. Well then let’s do it, locally and internationally. God wants to move now, and we need Him now. This is serious. We’re allowing calamity to be needed in order for us to be willing to follow Christ.
Oh well, the main reason I started writing was to share this. I really appreciate John Paul Jackson’s point that what is coming is not the wrath of God, mainly. Rather, it is God withholding His hand of protection because His people are far away, and consequently, no longer salt and light. For example, I was told by God in my Let Us Be ONE prophecy that 9/11, specifically was a result of unforgiveness:
There is fear in My people—a fear that is great. You need not dismay, for I am with you. I am in everything you do, non-stop. I never cease.
Feel My hurt, imagine the pain, when you go your own way. I am in you, waiting. Let’s be one. Let’s do it.
There is another thing: a disaster has struck. People have been hurt, suicide bombings attacking towers. Why?
Do you not know that I lift My hand of protection when My people are far away?
We are one; we need not be far away. There is a way that seems right to a man. Disaster will result unless we forgive.
See the fallen; see them rise up and be refreshed as you give them a kiss, a holy kiss from above, pulling them up, giving them aid when they are down.
Let Me be in control; let Me lead your life. Do not be full of error, wondering this or that, going to and fro, not sure of which direction, being unable to forgive. Forgiveness is the key to repentance.
I forgave. I hung there and gave My life so you can have freedom. I hurt so you can walk in humility and be refreshed. You must take it and run, the precious gift of forgiveness, but not just for yourself, for others. Forgive and be free.
Jesus has wanted to protect us, to help us prosper in every way. But we left the way of loving everyone as much as we love ourselves, and now many non-Christians demonstrate more compassion than born-again ‘Christians.’
It’s not God’s fault; it’s ours. Those God sent to warn us weren’t listened to, and now we’re going to suffer, God told me, but it will also be a time of great joy and ease, spiritually:
“It doesn’t matter what the stock market will do, for holiness will abound and you will be ONE, living together, helping one another through the difficult times ahead.
It’s too late to reverse what’s been done, for My men have been rejected. There was a season.
Now is the time to overcome and get right with all those around, so you can be holy and set apart.
FORGIVENESS will reign from your hearts, and we will be together, embracing for eternity. You in Me and I in you. It should always be this way: resting, relaxed, righteousness ABOUNDING—your hearts GLAD! …
Your heart will swell with love, and it will be easy to remain in Me when others are on the boat with you.”
Jesus said “now is the time to overcome and get right with all those around.” If we’re ready spiritually, all in Christ, together as ONE (His heart-cry for us in John 17), then we’ll be spiritually ready for what is to come.
It’s too late to reverse what’s coming. We may be able to slow down and even minimize some of the terrible upcoming events, but because of our willful distance from God and His prophetic people, we are now on an irreversible course that we must have clean hands and pure hearts in order to overcome in what is to come.
Some will ride our coattails, but it takes brave mountaineers to be willing to pioneer the move now while the ease of obeying is still not here. It takes being willing to do the right thing, like humbling ourselves to those we’ve hurt and admit we’re wrong. Why wait till we see each other in the grocery store. That may never happen. Our own eternity is at stake (see Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way. It’s so clear), and we can help prepare the way, because “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” The Remedy for James-3 Cursing & Partysville in Today’s Church is James 4.
“When we build it He will come.” What a glorious day that will be. And the revival will last and last this time….
Come on, Anchorage, are you ready?
Jeff Fenske : )
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This is Part 1 of the Perfect Storm Prophecy given by John Paul Jackson of Streams Ministries. To download the PDF Document associated with “The Perfect Storm Series” please visit:
http://streamsministries.com [specifically here – ed.]
Blog With John Paul Jackson at:
http://blog.streamsministries.com
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In Part 2 of “The Coming Perfect Storm” John Paul Jackson gives some prophetic insight to those who are intimately following the Lord as they grow closer to the Lord in hearing the voice of the Lord not only for themselves but for other people who need a solution to some of the problems that he has spoken about concerning the coming days ahead. The days ahead will not be easy but those who pray and seek the face of God will find much comfort and direction for their lives and the lives of others.
Related:
Sid Roth Interviews John Paul Jackson On the Coming Perfect Storm. “The Woes of 2012! The Woes of 2012!” And Beyond-Asbury, ‘ONE’-Happens, All-Get-Healed REVIVAL!!!!!!!
PROPHETIC BULLETIN August 2008: THE COMING PERFECT STORM
by John Paul Jackson
[vision] Dumitru Duduman: The Russian Invasion of America — “It will start with the world calling for ‘peace, peace.’ Then there will be an internal revolution in America…. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans…” — The rapture will occur AFTER America is destroyed, as God destroys the enemies of Israel!
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
Asbury Revival, 1970: “Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?”
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, terror. Trends chief [Gerald Celente] says people should brace for ‘the greatest depression.’ “This is the decline of empire America”
“Only the pure in heart can see God, and there is no unforgiveness in a pure heart” – John Paul Jackson
Regarding Tithing:
The Day that Tithing Ended — To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit
Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine
Many Pastors Still Teach Old Covenant, Pre-Pentecost Tithing—Not Spirit-Led Giving
Tithing or the Carriage Driver?
David Bercot CD teaching: What The Early Christians Believed About Tithing and Fasting? “You might be surprised to know…”
Teaching tithing keeps the little (and the big) children from coming to Jesus where they can have life!
All of my Tithing or Spirit-led posts
[Portions of transcript below]
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God has given proven prophet John Paul Jackson insight into the future of America. This week John Paul shares what God has shown him of a coming “Perfect Storm” capable of bringing unpredictable calamity to the United States through the elements of war, politics, economics, religion and geophysical issues. Hear John Paul discuss these future events and how you can prepare for the coming Perfect Storm.
Select excerpts from the It’s Supernatural transcript, (available here as pdf file):
SID ROTH: Now you saw some specific dates. What were they?
JOHN PAUL JACKSON: I saw the year 2010 was going to be very difficult, especially as you get further into 2010. I saw the year, I kept hearing an angel saying in a deep loud voice, “The woes of 2012. The woes of 2012. The woes of 2012.” I don’t know what those woes are, Sid. The angel did not tell me about those woes. But there was more emphasis on those woes than almost anything else that I was given.
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JOHN PAUL: Some of the things I saw that were going to be coming or were quite shaking. And one of them was the issue of drought and the issue of water becoming very, very expensive, and at some point in the future, there will be cities that water from tap, right from your kitchen faucet will be more expensive than oil is. So it’s not like talking about going to the store and buying a gallon of water. We’re talking about water that’s normally fairly inexpensive becoming very expensive. In fact, some of the things that I saw was there would be various cities in the United States that would have to evacuate thousands of people because there wasn’t enough water in the reservoirs and in the aquifers that they get the water from, to get water to all the people.
SID: What about food?
JOHN PAUL: I saw a blight coming to hybrid seeds, and that would bring a type of famine to the United States. So the hybrid seeds that have been propagated by various large, huge corporations [Monsanto – editor], supposedly resistant to all kinds of things, there’s something in the DNA structure of how they propagated everything, and it will actually allow for a blight to come. Some of the seeds won’t break the ground. Some of the seeds will break the ground but never bear fruit, and so you’ll end up seeing maybe green out in the fields. There will be enough rain for them in certain areas, but they won’t come to seed. So there won’t be the corn that will be normally in the ear. There won’t be the wheat that is normally in the head of wheat. So that creates a major food shortage.
SID: Will that increase crime?
JOHN PAUL: Which would increase crime. Right.
SID: What did you see?
JOHN PAUL: Well crime, I saw crime increasing for several reasons. One, economically because there’s so many people unemployed. We’re at double-digit unemployment. And I’ve been talking about as high as over 12 percent unemployment before it’s all said and done. And that was way before, you know, at that time it was 4.5 percent, I believe, when I started talking about. But I also saw unemployment because of the economic decisions that are going to be made. I also saw the food shortages further harming the unemployed because food will be so expensive they couldn’t afford to get it. And so then, you end up seeing people actually robbing food trucks that would carry food to grocery stores. And when they would come and there would have to be armed guards riding the food trucks in order to keep the food truck waylaid or hijacked.
SID: It sounds to me like there’s going to be a great deal of fear going on.
JOHN PAUL: Yeah. One of the plans of the enemy–There’s going to be fear because of just God saying, “I’m God, you’re not,” and one of return of the fear of God to the church, first and foremost, and then to the nation. But one of the plans of the enemies is going to try to capitalize on that fear. So you have enemies of the United States that are going to be doing issues. Both China as well as the Islamic community are doing things to the United States. They’re going to begin to generate fear. And so they’re going to be doing things with the school systems. They’re going to be doing things with malls, shopping malls. There will be explosions in shopping malls that will make people afraid to go to high-traffic areas like malls would be.
SID: As a matter of fact, you saw a lot of malls closing down.
JOHN PAUL: I did. I saw a lot of malls closing down, and interestingly enough, because of the storms that happen in some of the cities, the malls were actually used as housing for the people who didn’t have homes.
SID: Hmm. And then you saw a migration of people out of the big cities.
JOHN PAUL: I did. I saw a migration of people out of big cities because of the fear that was there. There was fear of what would happen in the school systems. There was fear of what was going to be happening in just high-traffic volume areas.
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SID: And with all this devastation that you see–
JOHN PAUL: Right.
SID: You saw the glory of God invading Planet Earth.
JOHN PAUL: I did.
SID: Tell me what you saw.
JOHN PAUL: Well the Bible talks about a time of Jacob’s trouble, a time of incredible hardships, incredible difficulties. But a lot of people don’t look at what the Lord said about the Jacob generation. The generation that’s going to see that trouble, is also going to see His glory. For in Psalms 24, it talks about the glory of God that’s going to come in. Who is this king of glory? That is the chapter that asks that incredible question. And it talks about what is going to happen. “He who ascends to the mountain the Lord with clean hands and a pure heart has not lifted up his soul to vanity.” These type of people are going to see incredible things of God. And what I saw, was I saw the glory of God invading His church again. I saw the glory of God invading homes again. I saw the glory of God invading places of worship.
SID: Get specific.
JOHN PAUL: The glory of God, what I saw was like it was thick, it was honey-like, it was like you see on the road. On a hot day, you look down the road and you’ll see a shimmering on the highway. Well this happened in the churches that I saw and the places where the Lord came down. There was a shimmering like a cylinder, a large cylinder, and varying sizes of cylinders of this shimmering, honey-colored, amberesque-colored light. But it was very thick. It was thicker than what you thought. When you got into it, you found it very difficult to move, not because you were paralyzed, but because of the thickness of the presence of the Lord. And whoever entered, Sid, anybody who walked into that glory was healed. Anybody. Anybody.
SID: Oh I love it. Let’s have it on this show.
JOHN PAUL: Amen. And I watched people; I watched mothers and fathers cry out for their children in that cylinder of glory, in the glory of God. I watched them cry out. And before they were done praying, the children ran into the sanctuary, ran into the place of worship, ran into the home declaring that they had been touched by God, and they were giving their life to Yeshua, and giving their life to the Messiah who they had now seen.
SID: You saw multiplication of food. Explain.
JOHN PAUL: I saw multiplication of food. I saw where there’s no food on tables, people, this Jacob generation would close their eyes and pray, and they would hold hands in unity, and while they were praying, food would be put into the pots that were the table. They took the lids off the pots, and there was the food, and they delivered and dished out the food to the people who were praying there. And this didn’t happen at one location. It was multiple, multiple locations. God is drawing us back to a purity of relationship with Him through Jesus.
SID: Speaking of purity, you saw in the Church no absolutes. What did you mean?
JOHN PAUL: Well I saw a growing time where the Church failed to realize the absolutes of God. They began to diminish the Word. And so there was no absolute way to get to God. And then there became no absolute one God. So then, it ended up being more of a polytheistic view of God or many types of God. And each one of us have our God…
SID: You saw horrible immorality in the church.
JOHN PAUL: I saw horrible, horrible immorality in the church. It was going to be–
SID: Some of the things you talk about here, it’s difficult to even express.
JOHN PAUL: It is. It is so vile. It is so ugly.
SID: But there’s got to be a separation of God’s people, of Jacob’s generation.
JOHN PAUL: Right.
SID: And everyone else.
JOHN PAUL: It’s a Malachi 3 passage. It says, “And there’s a clear distinction between those who know God and those who don’t know their God.” And that’s what we’re going to begin to see, Sid. We’re going to see a clear separation, a clear distinction. We’re going to see leaders arise in the midst of turmoil. We’re going to see people with ideas that meet the needs of people in the midst the turmoil. We’re going to see people with innovations that meet and facilitate the delivery systems, and systemization of things. And these will be the believers that God shows his secrets to.
SID: Supernatural wisdom.
JOHN PAUL: Supernatural wisdom. Exactly.
SID: It’s the Issachar.
JOHN PAUL: Here’s a verse that’s very important. It’s found in Psalms 25:14. “The secret of the Lord is with those who fear Him.” Now what is the secret of the Lord? It’s anything that God hasn’t revealed. Meaning, how do you do this? What is the secret to DNA? What is the secret to this particular type of healing process? What is the secret to various things? And you’re going to have people being given secrets from the Lord, because He’s going to keep his covenant with them.
Related:
“The Perfect Storm” by John Paul Jackson. What to expect in the next 10 years. To overcome, we must be right with each other: “You must have clean hands and not harmed others. And if you have, you must repent so that you can be clean” | My experience at Trinity
Asbury Revival, 1970: “Dr. Kinlaw, I am a liar. Now what do I do?”
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
Globalist Insider Tells Lindsey Williams: “Within TWO YEARS you will not recognize America. … You will be so poor you will not be able to rebel”
2012 forecast: Food riots, ghost malls, mob rule, terror. Trends chief [Gerald Celente] says people should brace for ‘the greatest depression.’ “This is the decline of empire America”
Howard Pittman was told this 2.5% figure at the gate of heaven 30 years ago (having died on the way to the hospital) — before once-saved-always-saved was mainstream, before internet porn even existed, before the low-cut-top epidemic hit America, when more people were honest, and hate and anger wasn’t off the charts.
The figure may be less than 2.5% now.
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From: 888c.com
How many will be in Heaven ?
The Bible gives us a clue below when it says that: “few there be that find it.” We might ask, how few ?
Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at [through] the strait [the narrow] gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way [road], that leadeth to destruction [leads to eternity in Hell], and many there be which go in [enter] thereat [through it]:
Mat 7:14 Because strait [small] is the gate, and narrow is the way [road], which leadeth unto life [leads to eternity in Heaven], and few there be [only a few] that find it.
Since the Bible suggests comparing a narrow way (road) with a broad way (road) to get the answer, let’s quantify this example.
A narrow way or road such as a single lane country road may be only about 10 feet wide.
A broad way or road such as an urban expressway with numerous lanes going both ways can easily be about 400 feet wide.
The ratio in this example is on the order of 1 in 40 (400 divided by 10). How many will be in Heaven? This example would conclude that only about 1 in 40 goes to Heaven.
Few (1 in 40) there be that find it (eternity in Heaven).
This is only about 2.5% of the world’s population making it to heaven.
Many (the other 39, or 97.5%) go to destruction (eternity in Hell).
Let’s examine another example. On August 3, 1979, Howard Pittman describes (in his booklet “Placebo”) his near-death experience. While the physicians were working on him, he suffered physical death.
During this death interval, he was permitted to watch 50 saints (true Christians) enter Heaven. It was explained to him that “at the same time those 50 saints died on Earth, 1950 other humans also died; or only 50 out of 2000 made it into Heaven. The other 1950 were not there.”
The ratio in this example is also 1 in 40 (2000 divided by 50).
Based on this example, only about 1 in 40 is going to Heaven. (50 in 2000)
That’s about 2.5% (saints, true Christians) going to heaven, and 97.5% going somewhere else.
Related:
[WordPOWER!] 2 Peter 3: BEWARE, in the LAST DAYS People Will Be WILLINGLY IGNORANT
Willful Ignorance: Actively Resisting the Truth & Truth-tellers
[FreedomQuote] ”I Would Rather Know The Ugly Truth Than A Beautiful Lie”
From Willful Ignorance through Cognitive Dissonance to “Could I Be Wrong?”
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qkY1XZtIs]Bill Wiese — 23 Minutes in Hell (TBN)
Related:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzvZC0V-9A8]WHAT COULD HELL BE LIKE? Bill Wiese talks to Pat Robertson
.5% EXPECT TO GO TO HELL
64% BELIEVE THEY WILL GO TO HEAVEN
And that was 30 years ago, before internet porn even existed, before the low-cut-top epidemic hit America, when more people were honest, and hate and anger wasn’t off the charts (including among pastors).
From: Abbott Loop Community Church
ALCC Prophecy
By ALCC – Posted on 07 June 2009
If you feel that the Lord has placed a message on your heart for ALCC, there are several ways to communicate that to the leadership.
You can e-mail it to prophetic@abbottloop.org or you can come to pre-service prayer at 9:15 a.m. on Sunday mornings and share it with one of the leaders there.
You can e-mail it to prophetic@abbottloop.org or you can come to pre-service prayer at 9:15 a.m. on Sunday mornings and share it with one of the leaders there.
From: David Wilkerson Today, March 7, 2009
I am compelled by the Holy Spirit to send out an urgent message to all on our mailing list, and to friends and to bishops we have met all over the world.
AN EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. IT IS GOING TO BE SO FRIGHTENING, WE ARE ALL GOING TO TREMBLE – EVEN THE GODLIEST AMONG US.
For ten years I have been warning about a thousand fires coming to New York City. It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires—such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago.
There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting—including Times Square, New York City.
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Related:
‘Let Us Be ONE’ Prophecy Continues 10/8/08: “It’s TOO LATE to REVERSE what’s been done for MY MEN have been REJECTED … Now is the Time to OVERCOME and GET RIGHT With ALL … FREEeeeeeeeeeeeee———DOM at last … Your HEART will SWELL with LOVE and it will be EASY to REMAIN In Me when others are On The BOAT With You”
Daniel Rodes Prophecy 2/28/09: What Will Happen to Our Little Ones?
From: David Wilkerson Today, March 9, 2009
“If the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do?”
Recently I felt compelled to send out an URGENT message warning of an impending great calamity — such that will cause even God’s elect to tremble. …
This is what I hear the Holy Spirit speaking to my heart concerning my own spiritual response to impending calamity. …
“Stand still. Fear not. This is the hour of salvation. You are going to witness the pulling down of the foundations of a world power. But in the same hour, I will fight for you. Hold your peace — be still and see my works.”
Beloved, my warning is just one voice among many who are saying the same thing. We may all tremble for a season, but those who truly know God’s Word will be quickly comforted by the Holy Spirit. We will be baptized with a great peace — a supernatural quietness — which will be a tremendous witness to the fearful multitudes.
“The system is corrupt.”
– Jesus Christ